Yea,
You folks actually condone drinking and pot smoking.
What the HELL is a raw food board,or ANY other health related board worth if some of you are into the same junk as what the guy on the street corner does??
You would all be better off going to MICKEY D"S and getting a Big Mac!!!
This has been the biggest insult I have experienced!!!!

Really appalled.

Brian

Well . . . that was somewhat amusing

just the kind of response I expected from the mentality here

puff away on your pot.

maybe its one reason the world has gone to hell.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2008 09:07PM by Raw1228.

You know what, the moderators are really forgiving of your bizarre posts and also the other person (whose name I won't mention). This time your day-later apology might not be looked on so nicely, considering you didn't modify your behavior.

P.S. I drank some alcohol this weekend and had a blast and I'm still healthy, thanks!

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If my going against pot and booze is bizzare....
then fine

you all are crazy!!!

This is the most screwed up place I have ever been in

You're probably drunk right now and I'm eating a salad.

Your OPINION is that alcohol and pot smoking is not healthy. You are entitled to your opinion. What is bizarre is that you feel the need to try to tell others (who didn't ask what you thought of them) what you think and what you would do. WE ARE NOT YOU. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

P.S. and a special tip - not everyone is raw & vegan for health reasons.

Wow.
You are really in need of help.
Pot= death
if you all say its ok,
I have seen burned out drooling kids in hospitals from the stuff.
GOD HELP US!!
THESE PEOPLE NEED HELP.

It sounds like you, raw 1228 could use some mellowing out, LOL. I am sorry you feel so strongly about what other people do. IMO, getting so worked up over things that don't concern you is as big as, or a bigger health risk than just about anything you can put into your body.

This is a place of support and if you only want support and have no intention in providing it, you should leave.

Raw1228, you are acting crazy and need to stop posting now. Alcohol and raw foodism are not incompatible. Some raw food restaurants serve wine. It isn't poison for those that don't have an addiction. Imagine if you couldn't stop eating spinach, it made you nuts and violent. Does that mean that everyone shouldn't eat spinach? No, it means YOU shouldn't eat spinach. Worry about yourself. I tend to think pot isn't a good idea, but its not food. Again, worry about yourself.

Ok.
This is WHOLE new territory for me.
Just cant believe it.
I will shut up,and go back to reading instead of posting.
Had NO idea that raw food eateries actually served wine!!!!
Really amazing.
It destroys lives.
And its ok in this raw world?

Pot Smoking and drinking Alcohol is not healthy... seriously now, there are no health benefits. Give a kid a puff on a joint, or a taste of your wine and and see what they do. They will cough on the joint, and give you a gross face when they taste the wine.

I think making wine is kinda cool though... you take the whole fruit, and then ferment it using oak barrels. Seems like a fun thing to do.

I think if a person is going to drink alcohol though... limit it to a couple glasses of wine or beer. I know they use grain alcohol in tinctures to heal people, so it cant be that bad.

P.S. Wine is still raw because it hasnt been cooked just fermented

We are all on our own journey in this life
it's personal,and it's ours.
i have seen that no thing is good or bad in and of itself
its how we relate to it that makes it so.
if used in a conscious sacred way
anything can be medicine for our spirits.
if used in an unconscious addictive way
it can hinder our growth and health.
it is entirely connected to the intention and energy of the person involved.

Each person gets to make their own choices of what is beneficial to them.
it's called personal freedom.

As long as people don't harm eachother I want to give everyone all the freedom they need to live their lives, learn their lessons, and evolve at their own pace.

peace

Aren't you the guy who was posting pornogrpahic images?

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2008 10:44PM by flex4life.

Utopia,perhaps I have not heard from a moderator cuz everything I had posted on my thread before disengaging was stated in a respectful and intellegent manner that at most challenged people who chose to be rude to me. I chose to disengage in the thread for I am hear to bring a little good to anyone hurting and share any small piece of knowlege I have.Although, I would not dare go near that particular thread I noticed you had a post after me. Gosh,I am sure glad I was healthy enough to move away from the thread.

My wish is that you find healing on this board and do not use it to critique other fallable human beings for we are all human.Gosh it seems you wanted this gentlemen and another punished.

Not punished, just admonished to be respectful to other members.

In case you hadn't noticed, RAW is the one critiquing other members. I'm critiquing his judgmental and critical ways.

Good riddence

See ya!

Brian

Let everyone go their own way. Here as everywhere, veryone is in a different place, even regarding raw foods. You just take care of you. And yes, getting angry and disapointed about what others do to themselves is not taking good care of you. Not everyone here is into pot and alcohol. There are plenty who share your opinion. However, it is important to not impose your opinion on others or judge others. This certainly doesn't promote change in them and it doesn't help you... Peace.

a happy member of another site.
so why post here anymore?
to try to save the unsaved.
but thats up to God.
Thank God.
Good luck everyone.
But before I go.....still cant believe I am reading that some people who are members drink and smoke pot.
Might as well be SAD too.
There is no point in being here.

I am roughly a month into raw,and drank for 12 yrs,and would never even think of going back!!!
THATS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT!!!!
GETTING PAST SUCH ABOMINATIONS OF HEALTH AND WELL BEING.
Much luck to you all



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2008 11:29PM by Raw1228.

so it looks like I missed that post where people said its good to drink and smoke pot I am clueless as to whats going on... I better read older posts...

Take care
A Iyer

For what it is worth,I was clueless why you were harsh to me.All I said to Lee was can you -respectfully-not respond to any of my messages-aka leave me alone.Have you walked in my shoes,do you have any idea why I responded in a direct but respectful manner.No,but you were mighty quick to judge me.

I assume I am the other person you felt spoke in such and rude and disrespecful manner-who would not name that the moderators were being kind to.

In anycase I did report you as an example.I asked that perhaps we can begin a general rule around this site that if you cant say something kind then dont say anything at all(stuff we learned and used in kindergarten),for all it does is snowballs and ego's become involved, and then the next person says something just a tad ruder and the next thing we know Raw Food has taken a back seat.
I respectfuuly,realize when you are in your 20's it can be challenging not to find fault with people,but last time I checked we are all God's children and we all make mistakes.Isnt that part of the beauty of being human.
Utopia,I dont think it is healthy for me to read any more of your responses & when I say that I DO MEAN IT. The same way I refuse to go back to that thread where it started to get mean spirited and I DIDNT GO BACK is the same way I choose to not view your post.
I wish you all the happiness and health and God Bless You

good luck to you, too. i don't see what my age has to do with the fact that you and raw constantly criticize others and i point that out. if nothing else, i'm more mature than you and i don't care how old you are.

Raw1228 - I do not belive that its is fair to judge why people do what they do. No one can judge that person because you haven't experienced the same life as that person. This is wise (un)common sense. It just isn't fair.

I do agree however that drinking and smoking pot is appalling. If I was given health/ diet advice from someone who drank or smoked pot, I would run in the opposite direction. People who do this should not give dietary advice. For someone to claim to be taking specific actions in the name of their health and then drink or smoke is quite hippocritical. Id rather eat a huge burger.

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Id rather eat a huge burger.


Well, what WOULD be hypocritical would be to say that you care about nonhuman life and then eating an animal, such as a cow, which you are calling a "burger."

If you are opposed to booze and pot, then don't drink booze or smoke pot.

It's not healthy for me, so I do neither. I have some friends who partake in one or the other, but generally never around me because they know it's not my thing. We share other things -- like awesome food, yoga, hiking.

Rather than criticize those who do the things that are not for you, just don't do those things. Make space in your life and heart for the people whose values resonate with yours.

Peace,

Lee

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PS: Maybe your brain needs washing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/13/2008 01:32AM by Lee_123.

After reading this thread a mantra that I like to repeat to myself popped into my head and I felt compelled to share;

You can do anything with Grace


Sorry to deviate.
I think it works though!

"""I have seen burned out drooling kids in hospitals from the stuff. """

what hospital was this?

get a grip

Im an extreemly long term non drinker. In my life I had at the most 1 can of beer when a teen. Maybe less than that even. Drugs no different.

elnatural