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This is something we should really be aware of...

Holy crap monkeys batman that is just going to far...

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Hmmm . . . that would be a splendid site for a Wal*Mart, no?

Wouldn't it be neat if someone offered to pay for Farmer Thompson to put in a modicum of sewer and electrical lines, and then dared the planning commission to say "boo!" about it?

I am not sure if this is just to grab the land or if "they" don't want us independent of utilities!!!

whatever the reasons, its equally bad in my opinion:/

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It's an assault on our Private Property Rights --

[morphcity.com]

This is how it's implemented at the Local Level --

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Wow. I don't see why a good old fashioned outhouse couldn't solve the problem. Or outdoor potty over a septic tank. Electricity would be the real problem solver but is probably too costly to bring onto the property.

If someone wants to live like that and it isn't affecting other people... such as waste running into the river or food source... then they should be able to live like that.

I'm not THAT old but I grew up poor... and when I was a kid we had an outhouse, and we carried our water from the creek into the house using buckets. Our heat was a wood stove, on which food was cooked and water was boiled. Oil lanterns were used for light after it got dark. A few years into it we got fancy and got a huge a propane tank for cooking and a water heater. We got electricity a little later and that is when life really got good... we could power a pump to pump water from the spring into the house and that meant we could get a 'real bathtub' and an indoor toilet, we had lights, a refrigerator, etc. I was 13yrs old when we got our first TV. Good times. LOL

Tamukha Wrote:
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>> Wouldn't it be neat if someone offered to pay for
> Farmer Thompson to put in a modicum of sewer and
> electrical lines, and then dared the planning
> commission to say "boo!" about it?

Or a solar power system. Solar power drives planning commissions crazy around here.

And what about human composting? From what I understand, with all the acres he has (38?), even burying his waste wouldn't create that much of an issue at all.

(By the way, would a raw vegan/cooked vegan have waste like horses since it's all plant matter?)

Look, living off-grid or partly off-grid is perfectly legal in many parts of the Upper Midwest. Farmer Thompson has a huge acreage of flat unwooded land. Think like a planning commission: You are tasked with creating greater tax revenue through zoning, etc. This land is perfect for a big box store + parking lots. I'd bet my right arm this is a land grab. He's not important or powerful enough, nor is this town significant enough, for some Promethean battle for basic rights to be undertaken here "as an example." This is about money; that land could produce revenue better and the town wants it to. If only there were a real life Scarlet Pimpernel for these sorts of injustices . . .

RocketShip,

Valuable insight from your personal experience. Very interesting; thanks for sharing