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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Omega ()
Date: January 12, 2010 07:31PM

eaglefly Wrote:
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> And is original fuel raw foods?

Yes, the fruits and vegetables of Nature, eaten as Nature provides them.

I think Lightform is joking. smiling smiley

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: January 12, 2010 11:51PM

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The great teachings unanimously emphasize that all the peace, wisdom, and joy in the universe are already within us; we don't have to gain, develop, or attain them. We're like a child standing in a beautiful park with his eyes shut tight. We don't need to imagine trees, flowers, deer, birds, and sky; we merely need to open our eyes and realize what is already here, who we really are -- as soon as we quit pretending we're small or unholy.

Sounds like flowery BS to me.

Ever had a job? Did you know how to do your job going into it?

If you're a guru with a fat belly, sitting back on a throne of pillows, followers bestowing you with food & drink, yeah, you can just play all day like a child but most people in the real world have to work. And to work you have to acquire skills. Skills you weren't born with. Life forces you to learn & expand who you once were. Forces you to be creative & create things you never thought you could.

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: January 13, 2010 01:12PM

cb,

I think the quote refers to esoteric knowledge, or self-knowledge, you know, philosophical rather than workaday stuff. In that sense it applies, right?

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: January 13, 2010 06:38PM

I think it's perhaps correct about peace & joy but wisdom comes thru experience.

Children are not wise. They are just unafraid. Thru being unafraid they accquire wisdom faster than any adult. That & their brains are much faster.

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: January 13, 2010 08:53PM

I think children can be wise. Solomon was wise from birth, reputedly, in that he sort of intuited the proper responses to everything. There are different kinds of wisdom, possibly . . .

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Lightform ()
Date: January 14, 2010 10:49AM

This is all about individual perspective though. As long as we are discussing notions of wisdom, work, holiness and necessity etc, we are dealing with personal opinion. Who is the arbiter here ?

It certainly isn't me, and as long as there are 6 billion other people out there with a different point of view, then I don't think anyone else can justifiably jump up to the plate either !

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: Lightform ()
Date: January 14, 2010 10:55AM

Unless you have a certificate from Harvard of course.

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Re: does this mean we are ALL grand and holy?
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: January 30, 2010 12:31PM

i'm the arbiter

cuz...
uhmmm
i say so

and I say that if u want to think you are grand and holy
then it could help one to be happy and to respect one's life and other's

and it couldn't hurt, unless well.. if it is taken out of context and abused

it just means that if you are alive, somewhere deep inside there must be some confirmation that one's life is sacred and thus oneself as well

and if not, then why are you here walking upon the earth and taking up space?

even darkness is holy
" the gateway to all understanding"

lao tzu

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