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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: HH ()
Date: January 13, 2015 10:25AM

Suncloud-

You're right. That is Allen Ginsberg in the background. The other guy is Bob Neuwirth, a good friend of Dylan's and a regular in the 60s folk scene.


suncloud Wrote:
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> arugula Wrote:
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> > Sproutarian man,
> >
> > My mom was a coloratura-lyric soprano. She sang
> > for Solti and the NBC Symphony Orchestra when I
> > was in her womb!
>
> That's neat arugula!
>
> Here's the last song I listened to: Subterranean
> Homesick Blues, Bob Dylan
> [www.metacafe.com]
> an_subterranean_homesick_blues_official_music_vide
> o/
>
> Funny thing. Last time I saw this video, Dylan
> didn't look so young!... I think that's Allen
> Ginsberg in the background. Who's the other guy?
>
>
> "Don't follow leaders. Watch the parking meters."

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: January 13, 2015 01:48PM

Hey thanks HH. smiling smiley

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: January 15, 2015 02:29AM

arugula Wrote:
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> Sproutarian man,
>
> My mom was a coloratura-lyric soprano. She sang
> for Solti and the NBC Symphony Orchestra when I
> was in her womb!


Wow, you must have good musical ears after NBC and Solti. Babies who come out of musical people can often be musical themselves.

An excellent conductor makes all the difference if the musicians are ready to take it to the highest level on the day.

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: arugula ()
Date: January 15, 2015 03:59PM

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> Wow, you must have good musical ears after NBC and
> Solti. Babies who come out of musical people can
> often be musical themselves.

I hope so. I play the piano. I would like to be
more talented.

Music is my first love but I went to engineering school
instead.

My mother was more ambitious for herself than me.

She didn't push me but wanted me to have exposure.

She did not want me to try to make a living off of music
like she did because if it hadn't been for my dad she
would have starved and taught. With my dad in the picture
she taught and did not starve. Hah hah.

There's not much a market these days for opera.

I went far beyond anything she taught me, though.
I like keyboard music most. She was more into lieder
and Bellini, things like that.

> An excellent conductor makes all the difference if
> the musicians are ready to take it to the highest
> level on the day.

Did you see "Mozart in the Jungle" yet? Gael Garcia
Bernal plays a Dudamel-ish conductor. The pilot is
weak but it gets better.

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: January 15, 2015 09:51PM

arugula Wrote:
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> I hope so. I play the piano. I would like to be
> more talented.

Very few people have musical talent in performance, but people can make up for it with very hard work. That is the thing with mastering instruments, they take years and lots of your spare time. I never had talent, but l practised 2 hours almost every single day over 20 years, so l became quite competent. I play brass instruments and some piano/keyboard, l also was a rock band manager at one point.


>
> Music is my first love but I went to engineering
> school
> instead.


Music is my great love also, and l nearly went to the consevatorium to study for a career in music, but l choose to study more stable career subjects instead.



> She did not want me to try to make a living off of
> music
> like she did because if it hadn't been for my dad
> she
> would have starved and taught. With my dad in the
> picture
> she taught and did not starve.


That is why l didn't choose music for a career....not always financial security; + there is always someone better, which means that l may have ended up in a teaching job urrk.

An old friend is one of the world's top players and has a Ph D in music, but he never gets regular work and works in a music shop. Such a waste, and that is the reason why l avoided such a dream job.


>
> There's not much a market these days for opera.


Such a pity isn't it. The audiences are dwindling and less musically sophisticated now.



> I like keyboard music most.



I like nearly all music types of music, but it needs to be played well with ample interpretation and feeling. My standards for music and performance are very very high. My ears are my best quality.


>
> > An excellent conductor makes all the difference
> if
> > the musicians are ready to take it to the
> highest
> > level on the day.
>
> Did you see "Mozart in the Jungle" yet? Gael
> Garcia
> Bernal plays a Dudamel-ish conductor.



Haven't seen it.

www.thesproutarian.com

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: January 15, 2015 11:50PM

Danny Gatton and friends ...

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: brome ()
Date: January 26, 2015 07:29PM

Emmy Lou Harris


[www.youtube.com]

Thievery Corp Depth of My Soul Shanna Halligan

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: Anon 102 ()
Date: February 06, 2015 06:18PM

a favorite of mine.



[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: February 06, 2015 10:50PM

Chinese Erhu

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: brome ()
Date: February 07, 2015 03:47AM

Beautiful Chinese Music - Reminiscence of the Red Lotus

[www.youtube.com]

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Something to think about, Mr. Fresh
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: February 10, 2015 02:30AM

[www.youtube.com]

Cortez the killer

Hate was just a legend
And war was never known
The people worked together
And they lifted many stones.

They carried them to the flat lands
And they died along the way
But they built up with their bare hands
What we still can't do today.

[how did they build the megaliths and giant pyramids? Edward Leedskalnin claimed to know.]
...
He came dancing across the water
Cortez, Cortez
What a killer.



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: Living Food ()
Date: February 11, 2015 08:46AM

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how did they build the megaliths and giant pyramids? Edward Leedskalnin claimed to know[/quite]

I believe that the pyramids etc are far more ancient than they are made out to be and were either built with advanced technology or spiritual power.

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 20, 2015 03:37AM

Sibelius - Karelia Suite [Alla Marcia] - (Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra
[www.youtube.com]

Been singing this delightful tune for weeks but have been unable to think of the name of it or find my old record. An interesting conducting style here. Used to have a smashing record of this. Love Sibelius.

www.thesproutarian.com

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 20, 2015 10:00AM

I declare today Sibelius day!

This is an absolute glory...

Lemminkainen Suite - Salonen

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 20, 2015 10:08AM

Sibelius "Finlandia" conducted by Leonard Bernstein. LIVE and up close.

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: February 20, 2015 04:53PM

El Todopoderoso

[www.youtube.com]


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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 21, 2015 05:37AM

Tai Wrote:
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> Chinese Erhu
>
> [www.youtube.com]


Very pleasant to listen to and musical, but would have liked more refinement in the vibrato parts.



SueZ Wrote:
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> Sibelius "Finlandia" conducted by Leonard
> Bernstein. LIVE and up close.
>
> [www.youtube.com]

Fantastic music played by one of the very finest orchestras. They nailed it so well. Brilliant!



The old favourite, beautiful.

Sarah Brightman & Andrea Bocelli - Time to Say Goodbye (Con te partiro)
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:54AM

Respigi "Fountains of Rome"

Fritz Reiner

[www.youtube.com]

(shortened but good pic of fountains to watch while listening)

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: arugula ()
Date: February 21, 2015 12:43PM

Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor, S. 178, Sviatoslav Richter, the supreme master of all time and space.

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2015 03:10PM

Before I was born this was my favorite music and musician. Once I was born and crawling around I waited for it to be played and then memorized the album cover so I would know how to find it and could bring it to my mother to play.
I still have that very album.

Oistrakh playing Mendelssohn

"Violin Concerto in E minor[part 1 of 4]

[www.youtube.com]

[2 of4]

[www.youtube.com]

[3 of4]

[www.youtube.com]

[4 of 4]

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 21, 2015 06:19PM

arugula Wrote:
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> Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor, S. 178,
> Sviatoslav Richter, the supreme master of all time
> and space.



I really LOVE that type of music and that piece, so soothing and emotionally felt that brings out the best in me.


I have never got into Bach, so are you able to recommend six really great pieces he wrote please.

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 21, 2015 07:07PM

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> arugula Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor, S. 178,
> > Sviatoslav Richter, the supreme master of all
> time
> > and space.
>
>
>
> I really LOVE that type of music and that piece,
> so soothing and emotionally felt that brings out
> the best in me.


Soothing - seriously?


Here's a link to it ...

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 22, 2015 03:28AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> Soothing - seriously?
>
>
> Here's a link to it ...
>
> [www.youtube.com]


Various small parts in the full version are soothing. However most parts are not soothing, but many parts bring out all sorts of emotions that are hard to put into words. It kind of reminds me of the emotions l get when listening to some of Beethoven's piano sonatas.



Here is an old favourite l have listened to far too many times over the years. I know every note intimately. Played it hundreds of times.

Tchaikovsky: Romeo & Juliet / Gergiev • London Symphony Orchestra • BBC Proms 2007
[www.youtube.com]


SueZ Wrote:
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> Before I was born this was my favorite music and
> musician. Once I was born and crawling around I
> waited for it to be played and then memorized the
> album cover so I would know how to find it and
> could bring it to my mother to play.
> I still have that very album.
>
> Oistrakh playing Mendelssohn
>
> "Violin Concerto in E minor

>
> [4 of 4]
>
> [www.youtube.com]


I have a recording of the finale of that piece that was transcribed for tenor horn. An old ex gang street fighter Billy Rushworth used to play it to a level that was simply staggering (finest tenor horn player in the world at one time). Billy was a tough old player to be in the band with...if you didn't play as good as he did he would give you the toughest time and was known to physically throw people out the door who couldn't match his brilliance. I nearly brought him out to Australia for a tour. By golly, Billy was the best of the best, but rough as bags.

There was another man called Kevin who was also a legend. He used to play in the world's best brass band with virtuoso players (in guiness book of records) and he was so good that he used to talk to these other worldclass players like dirt and tell them they were hopeless players and show them how to play the pieces properly. Friends told me the legendary stories about Kevin, and when l asked Kevin himself he confirmed the stories were all true. Kevin was a freakish player and didn't do much practise either...he was a natural...could play anything to perfection straight off....floorless technique and sound and fast lizard tongue and range and everything. Meeting him was a highlight for me. He was an I.T manager LOL.

Here is Kev in a bad recording:

[www.youtube.com]

www.thesproutarian.com



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 22, 2015 04:38AM

Then there is another man called Richard who is without doubt the finest cornet player in the world today, and quite possibly the best in history. How do l know? Because l have recordings covering nearly all the greatest cornet players going back to the late 1800's. He was great 20 years ago, but now he is phenomenal. I heard him live and it was the finest playing l had ever heard...completely blown away and brought tears to my eyes.

This piece doesn't do his ability justice, but you can hear he is very very good. He does play perfectly. When you are taught by the world's finest players you can become a legend like this man is.

Miss Blue Bonnet
[www.youtube.com]


The English have that special British melodic vibrato sound totally unique to their country.


Here is another legend who was one of the greatest players in the 60's, 70's and 80's. My inspiration. A golden silky sound that was one of a kind....so pretty, but not such a pretty personality according to friends. I have this record.

Btw, Kevin (above link in previous post) used to tell this world class player he was hopeless LOL. No jokes. smiling smiley

Cornet Solo - "Fairies of the Waters"
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: arugula ()
Date: February 22, 2015 05:39AM

6 JS Bach excerpts for TSM

1.
First 8:24 minutes of St. Matthew Passion BWV244, Herreweghe
Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen
+ chorale O Lamm Gottes unschuldig

[www.youtube.com]
There are universes here. The continuo alone is supremely
genius, but he also has double choir, double orchestra,
soloists, and the "lamb of god most holy" thread rising
above it all.

2.
I am not really a Gould fan but this excerpt from
BWV1052 is deeply moving and one of my favorites.
Makes me cry every single time.
[www.youtube.com]

3.
BWV543, a Liszt transcription, somewhat romanticized.
This is one of his most beautiful works. Svetla Protich
in a divine performance, especially around 4:40
[www.youtube.com]

4.
St. John Passion BWV245
Ach Herr, lass dein lieb Engelein
(my Dad, who claimed to dislike bach, really loved
this)
[www.youtube.com]

5.
BWV1061, fugue (starts at 12:07)
[www.youtube.com]

6.
Bach-Busoni Chacocone in D, de Larrocha
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 23, 2015 08:32PM

arugula Wrote:
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> 3.
> BWV543, a Liszt transcription, somewhat
> romanticized.
> This is one of his most beautiful works. Svetla
> Protich
> in a divine performance, especially around 4:40
> [www.youtube.com]


Wow, that lady really knows how to play that piece, she is so good. It is the type of piece that would be very difficult to play because it would be so easy to lose meaning with the notes and lose the flow, yet she keeps the flow and plays every note with meaning and deep passion. I can't imagine many players being able to play such a piece with such passion, many would play with half passion or just notes and it would become boring to listen to. It needs to be played with full on passion and flow or not at all.


I am not used to Bach music, so l still need to get into the mind set. What l really need to do is study his life and how the man was and how he thought about things, this will help me appreciate the music more. In other words, l need to learn more about where he was coming from so l can understand his music.

I listened to a few on the links early this morning and will listen to the rest later before making further comment. Some quality music being performed for sure. I could get right into Bach when the mood strikes me, so thanks for a good intro to his music.

www.thesproutarian.com

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: arugula ()
Date: February 23, 2015 09:38PM

TSM,

Do not be put off by the counterpoint and technicalities. IMHO these are just parlor tricks. He liked to show off.

The deeply moving parts are what interest me. There is something about this man's thinking process that melts my bone marrow. I am unable to pinpoint exactly why but I do not attribute it to his mastery of counterpoint.

There are many other composers that also melt my bone marrow but JS Bach remains the supreme melter. It remains to me a mystery as to why.

I am not a religious person but listening to him make me believe that there is something better, something more, something higher to aspire to. It's as if he is saying, 'Yes we are monkeys, but we are also much more than that."

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Date: February 24, 2015 05:00AM

arugula Wrote:
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> TSM,
>
> Do not be put off by the counterpoint and
> technicalities. IMHO these are just parlor tricks.
> He liked to show off.


Of course, l largely got over the parlor tricks years ago. These parlor tricks always sort the men from the boys so to speak (in terms of listening)....the boys rave about the show off tricks, but the real men look for so much more. Of course those the parlor tricks can be nice, but it is the moving parts which really get me these days. I could listen to slow moving music played with passion all day now, and those are the most difficult to play. Lots of musicians can do the parlor tricks, but not many can do the really moving stuff well.

The real music appreciators listen for notes played with passion, every single note. It is rare someone can play every single note with passion. Even those brass players l linked were not perfect, but they can play perfect when they are in the zone.

Sometimes l have music and hardly any notes are written on the page, but they are the hardest to play. Playing with flashy technique is easy...all you need to do is spend a couple of years of really dedicated scale practise, and every man and his dog can do that.

They all rave about the piano player Lang Lang as being one of the greats, but to me he is low class and forgettable and deadly boring because he doesn't play with feel. I would never pay to see Lang Lang. People are musically dumbed down with ears that are painted on. They all jump on the bandwagon and settle for cheapness. Well, l don't and won't settle for cheapness, l want the best. Sometimes l get in the mood for flash, but many times l like to feel the passion because it is rare to hear it done well.

When you go raw you feel and play with passion so much better, but most people are cooked and full of chemicals and it seems like most can't really feel the magic. I don't want tolisten to people who don't play with great passion because the bore me, and l have no time for brass players with poor sounds.

Many of those people who make the youtube comments settle for such mediocrity. Ears are painted on. They eat cooked, their ears are cooked and their emotions and passion is cooked. They aren'tliving, they are all COOKED!

I only want the best arugula, because life is too short and tough not to have the best. Give me the best food, the best music and the best people around me and l will smile and cry. But give me mediocrity and l am not going to be impressed.

www.thesproutarian.com



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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: February 24, 2015 08:04AM

Khachaturian: Violin Concerto in D minor - Oistrakh / Khachaturian / Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra


[www.youtube.com]

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Re: What was the last song you listened to?
Posted by: Manta91 ()
Date: February 26, 2015 04:43PM

Saltarello by Dead Can Dance!

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