Did you re-activate John Rose's account yet? I would have asked you in a PM, but it's not functioning.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/2013 04:29PM by KidRaw.

What happened? Was John Rose banned?

He was suspended for 30 days on the 13th of September as a warning to the rest of us who were talking politics, but the 30 days have been up for a while now, so I was thinking maybe Bryan forgot to re-instate his account. I see Bryan is posting on the main forum, so I guess I'll ask him about it over there.

Oh ok. Thx

Don't perpetuate false statements. John was not banned as a warning to the rest of us. :rolleyes:

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Why was he banned then? Just curious. Not trying to debate or anything. PEACE! I assumed that it was done to say that political talk won't be tolerated.

That's how I interpreted Bryan's statements when he explained why he 'gave John Rose a vacation' -

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

"I've asked people here to refrain from post political and economic posts to the other topics forum, as well as the rest of this forum. John has consistently felt that he didn't need to follow these rules.

As such, I am deactivating John's account for the next 30 days. For others making political and economic posts, you can also expect the same."

"This is why I am going to be give out more vacations as people add political or economic posts here."

**************

If that's not a warning, I don't know what is. But then, I'm not a wordsmith.

Hi Superjuice -

(Further explanation as per your inquiry on the Main Forum)

You probably didn't even know we had an Other Topics Forum, because only a couple people post here since it became so boring. And most who do start a thread, are mostly now posting raw food and other health related topics, which are intended to go on the Main Forum and Other Health Related Forum, but I guess they're trying to keep the Other Topics Forum limping along.

Interpret how you wish Kidraw he was banned for many reasons most if which he was reported for

The way you make it sound is he was banned as a warning to the rest of which is not true no matter what color you highlight it

Drama much ?

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

And if it's so boring here why don't you leave why come back and say anything at all.?

You are one person here of many who don't feel it is boring at all

Maybe you (and john) should get together and start your own exciting forum that is based around debate if that is what you are looking for

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Jgunn Wrote:
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he was banned for
> many reasons most if which he was reported for

I was under the impression that he was banned solely for posting politics. Would you mind telling me the other reasons he was banned and what reasons was he reported for?


> The way you make it sound is he was banned as a
> warning to the rest of which is not true no matter
> what color you highlight it

I should have been more clear and also said -

"John Rose was banned for posting politics" "AS A WARNING TO THE REST OF US."

But I stand by my assessment that he was banned AS a warning.

Two different words here -

FOR (which I neglected to state) and AS (which I am correct in my usage)

Please go back and re-read my second post in this thread, and I think you'll see that I did use the word "AS", and not the word "FOR".

Good try but no cigar on the Twisting of my words

I have to admit that I find it to be boring. The people who complained the most vociferously about the political talk aren't doing anything to keep things interesting now that it's gone. It's like okay it's your time to shine. This is the atmosphere you begged and pleaded for...crickets.

Jgunn Wrote:
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> And if it's so boring here why don't you leave why
> come back and say anything at all.?

To answer your first non-question, I did leave. The reason I came back is to represent John Rose who may be stuck in cyberspace chomping at the bit to come back. He is one of us, after all.

And as far as 'drama' goes, this forum thrives on drama. This thread has gotten more replys in one day than the rest of them garnered in over a month. It needed an injection of adrenaline.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2013 07:48PM by KidRaw.

I like the drama! If you're healthy, the debate and disagreement should roll right off of you with no negative effect at all. I learn from it. Everyone being in lock-step with one point of view has nothing to do with enlightenment or peace.

Oh did john ask you to represent him? I highly doubt it he's far more intelligent then that

Again if you feel the need for drama start your forum this obviously isn't thenplace for you

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

HH, actually I like the feel of this forum now that the politics is gone. Its less active, but the energy feels way nicer.

KidRaw Wrote:
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> Jgunn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> he was banned for
> > many reasons most if which he was reported for
>
> I was under the impression that he was banned
> solely for posting politics. Would you mind
> telling me the other reasons he was banned and
> what reasons was he reported for?

I am not Privy to what he was banned for other then whats already been stated by the Admins of this board. Any other reason that was shared to me personally by the people that did report will remain with me personally.


>
>
> > The way you make it sound is he was banned as a
> > warning to the rest of which is not true no
> matter
> > what color you highlight it
>
> I should have been more clear and also said -
>
> "John Rose was banned for posting politics" "AS A
> WARNING TO THE REST OF US."
>
> But I stand by my assessment that he was banned AS
> a warning.
>
> Two different words here -
>
> FOR (which I neglected to state) and AS (which I
> am correct in my usage)
>
> Please go back and re-read my second post in this
> thread, and I think you'll see that I did use the
> word "AS", and not the word "FOR".
>
> Good try but no cigar on the Twisting of my words
>

No twisting here ..it was your original post that I orginally commented on .. good try but no cigar here either

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

HH I have many varied points of view and don't feel any need to have drama to get them across to anyone. It has nothing to do with peace or enlightenment .. I am far from my own journey of enlightenment. I just don't feel contentious debate has any place in a forum that is here to serve people "looking" for peace and health and education.

Likewise in real life , I don't go into institutes of learning or education and Act loud, rude, annoying and make a ruckus, call people names etc. .. simply for the reason its more exciting.

I liken this forum to a place of learning and I am with Bryan I prefer "the feel of this forum now that the politics is gone. Its less active, but the energy feels way nicer."

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

If you scroll down the list of threads, it just a bunch of mostly Panchito posting and nobody replying or a bunch of threads that belong in the Other Health Related or Main Forum and most threads only have 1 or 2 replies.

Inactive and boring. It's OK if you have nothing else to do, but if you're busy and like to read something interesting when you have a chance to get online, this Other Topics forum would put you to sleep.

Looking at the threads again, I see that in the last month, only HH has posted interesting topics that are not health-related.

KidRaw Wrote:
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> If you scroll down the list of threads, it just a
> bunch of mostly Panchito posting and nobody
> replying or a bunch of threads that belong in the
> Other Health Related or Main Forum and most
> threads only have 1 or 2 replies.

so? why does volume mean so much to you .. quantity over quality ?


>
> Inactive and boring. It's OK if you have nothing
> else to do, but if you're busy and like to read
> something interesting when you have a chance to
> get online, this Other Topics forum would put you
> to sleep.

again if you dont like it .. leave ?

>
> Looking at the threads again, I see that in the
> last month, only HH has posted interesting topics
> that are not health-related.

whatever Kidraw the forum is not here to serve you specifically .. the world of this forum does not revolve around you and what excites you .. if you dont like it .. you know where to go ..

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Bryan, would you be so kind as to move the threads in this "Other Topics" Forum which are "Other Health Related" to the Other Health Related Forum, please, or is it now OK to post a thread on any subject in any forum willy-nilly regardless of topic.

KidRaw, I don't think that is necessary. Some of this stuff is light or humorous or weird or strange, and seems appropriate for here.

By "drama" I mean something totally benign. I walk away from the debate here with a smile on my face. It's no big deal and it's nice to see other's points of view. I take it lightly and enjoy the banter. I don't see the rudeness and I don't see people being aggressive. People are going to disagree. La-dee-dah. It's no skin off my back. This specific forum is not a health forum by the way.

Jgunn Wrote:
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> HH I have many varied points of view and don't
> feel any need to have drama to get them across to
> anyone. It has nothing to do with peace or
> enlightenment .. I am far from my own journey of
> enlightenment. I just don't feel contentious
> debate has any place in a forum that is here to
> serve people "looking" for peace and health and
> education.
>
> Likewise in real life , I don't go into institutes
> of learning or education and Act loud, rude,
> annoying and make a ruckus, call people names etc.
> .. simply for the reason its more exciting.
>
> I liken this forum to a place of learning and I am
> with Bryan I prefer "the feel of this forum now
> that the politics is gone. Its less active, but
> the energy feels way nicer."

I would also disagree with there being health related topics here but I know how to ignore threads that don't interest me. For example, if I weren't interested in politics I would ignore the political threads instead of banning them. It's that simple.

HH Wrote:
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> By "drama" I mean something totally benign.

Benign by definition states:

benign
adjective
1.
gentle and kind.
"his benign but firm manner"
synonyms: kindly, kind, warm-hearted, good-natured, friendly, warm, affectionate, agreeable, amiable, good-humoured, genial, congenial, cordial, approachable, tender, tender-hearted, soft-hearted, gentle, sympathetic, compassionate, caring, considerate, thoughtful, helpful, well disposed, obliging, accommodating, generous, big-hearted, unselfish, benevolent, gracious, liberal, indulgent; rarebenignant
"he adopted a benign grandfatherly role"
antonyms: unfriendly, hostile
(of a climate or environment) mild and favourable.
"the climate becomes more benign as we move nearer to the Black Sea"
synonyms: temperate, mild, gentle, clement, calm, balmy, pleasant, agreeable, soft, soothing, refreshing; More
antonyms: harsh, unhealthy, unfavourable
not harmful to the environment.
"the cycle as a benign form of transport"
2.
MEDICINE
(of a disease) not harmful in effect.

I personally don't feel 'Drama' in the sense that it has been around here lately to be any of the above. If you see it that way I can respect your viewpoint while disagreeing.

I walk
> away from the debate here with a smile on my face.

People are walking away from here permanently because of the debate, I dont think that is acceptable

> It's no big deal

It is a big deal to some people

and it's nice to see other's
> points of view.

I completely agree if its polite, nurturing and respectful which it has not been

I take it lightly and enjoy the
> banter.

But some people do not

I don't see the rudeness and I don't see
> people being aggressive.

Some people do, are, and have been and complained about it through the proper channels

People are going to
> disagree. La-dee-dah. It's no skin off my back.
> This specific forum is not a health forum by the
> way.

Nor by the way is it a forum to discuss politics as previously stated (a number of times)


>
> Jgunn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HH I have many varied points of view and don't
> > feel any need to have drama to get them across
> to
> > anyone. It has nothing to do with peace or
> > enlightenment .. I am far from my own journey
> of
> > enlightenment. I just don't feel contentious
> > debate has any place in a forum that is here to
> > serve people "looking" for peace and health and
> > education.
> >
> > Likewise in real life , I don't go into
> institutes
> > of learning or education and Act loud, rude,
> > annoying and make a ruckus, call people names
> etc.
> > .. simply for the reason its more exciting.
> >
> > I liken this forum to a place of learning and I
> am
> > with Bryan I prefer "the feel of this forum now
> > that the politics is gone. Its less active, but
> > the energy feels way nicer."

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

Well maybe you should "be the change you wish to see" and start some threads that are of interest to you. I'd also recommend avoiding those which are not. It's really that simple. I'm done with this. Good night.

why do i need to start anything ? I am not bored with what is posted

and thanks for your recommendation .. i actually do that .. to the point of not really being here that much .. is that the endgame you wish to see ?

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

You're the boss, but I do agree that this forum should be kept to other topics and that the health related should be moved to the proper forums. Consistency in moderating this site would make the energy even nicer.


Prana Wrote:
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> HH, actually I like the feel of this forum now
> that the politics is gone. Its less active, but
> the energy feels way nicer.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2013 10:04PM by HH.

I simply suggested that if there's content that you wish to see, you can create it yourself. If there's content that you don't wish to see, it's easily ignored. No need for any kerfuffles.

Jgunn Wrote:
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> why do i need to start anything ? I am not bored
> with what is posted
>
> and thanks for your recommendation .. i actually
> do that .. to the point of not really being here
> that much .. is that the endgame you wish to see ?

Dear goddess! HH what on earth makes you think I'm the boss lol

I agree there is no need for kerfuffles

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist