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Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: Anon 102 ()
Date: February 09, 2017 05:06PM

If you go by the conventional account Stalin and Mao killed more people than Hitler. Why are they not abhorred more? Could it be for the reasons that John Rose mentioned? Seems logical to me.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: February 10, 2017 01:58AM

I just cant imagine why Uncle Adolf Quitler who vented his own head is so vilified??? Mao and Stalin got more bodies, whats up John and arion
Hard to understand yes, Hitler wasn't such a bad guy.

After all, he did kill hilter Stop picking on uncle Quitler

Nazi worship dead mans dirt in your blood



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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: February 11, 2017 02:55AM

Hitler and Mussolini

One day St. Peter visited Hell to make certain that the sinners were being adequately punished. During his tour he noticed that Hitler was standing in feces up to his chin. Surprisingly, the Fuhrer was smiling.
"I don't understand," sasid St. Peter. "How can you smile when you'll be spending all of eternity in excrement?"
Hitler replied, "I'm smiling because I'm standing on Mussolini's shoulders."

Anon
This could be the reason Hitler is Vilified, because you only see uncle Adolf in the @#$%& pile the rest are so bad their in such deep sh#&t because they had most bodies you just don't see them, Seems logical to me.



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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: Anon 102 ()
Date: February 11, 2017 12:26PM

Bill, maybe it has to do with the suppression of the idea of debt free currency.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: February 13, 2017 09:30AM

Hey Anon 102,

It's pretty obvious why Hitler and Mussolini were demonized and you hit the nail on the head!

[youtu.be]
4:13 MM
Noam Chomsky: Mussolini was greatly admired all across the spectrum, Business loved him, Investments shot up and suddenly when Hitler came in Germany, the same thing happened there. Investments shot up in Germany, he had the Work Force under Control, he was getting rid of Dangerous Left Wing Elements, Investment Opportunities were improving - there were No Problems - these were Wonderful Countries. 4:35 MM

Here are some more snippets from my file on Hitler, Mussolini & Freemasons and these all come from Eustace Mullins' book - The Curse of Canaan:

When Mussolini came to power after the First World War, he declared Freemasonry" a danger to the peace and quietude of the State." The Lodges were proscribed by the Anti-Masonic Law of 1925, which unleashed a furious worldwide propaganda campaign against Mussolini as a "dictator."

Both Hitler and Mussolini, early in their regimes, were quick to outlaw the Masons, failing to realize that Freemasonry and the Illuminati have always been underground movements. They had been proscribed numerous times in numerous countries; these bans only gave greater encouragement to their furtive conspiracy. Neither Hitler nor Mussolini realized the awesome power of the "determined men of Masonry" who exercised total control over the "democratic" powers.

One of the first tasks demanded of American Army officers when they entered Germany was that they reestablish the Masonic Lodges, which had been closed by Hitler. In Italy, the victors quickly reopened the Grand Orient Lodges throughout the country. They were heavily financed with covert funds from the OSS, and later received large payments from CIA operatives in Italy.

The Italian Under Secretary of State, alarmed at the control which the Freemasons exercised over the Italian government in 1913, called for a law forbidding Masons from holding any sensitive office, "compromised by any hidden and therefore uncontrollable tie, and by any motive of suspicion or lack of trust by the public." The measure was never passed, and the unfortunate Under Secretary disappeared from his office. However, a decade later, Mussolini did outlaw the Masonic Lodges in Italy, causing the Canaanites to scream worldwide imprecations against "the brutal dictator" and "fascism."

By the way, Hitler banned Freemasonry in the Nazi Regime and, of course, that’s another reason why he’s demonized again today because he closed down and Mussolini closed down the Freemason Lodges in Italy also.



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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: February 13, 2017 03:38PM

Quote John Rose -.It's pretty obvious why Hitler and Mussolini were demonized and you hit the nail on the head! . Wrong John Hitler hit his own head with bullet not a nail.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: February 14, 2017 06:44PM

Is the amount of a number the sign of the devil? How many people did the atomic bomb kill in a single blow?

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: Anon 102 ()
Date: February 16, 2017 05:31PM

Thanks, John, for the info. At the very least Hitler and the holocaust deserve a second look by everyone.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: February 17, 2017 12:12PM

This does not get a second or first look with Holocaust Denialist
Here is the first of 66 points I will post for you just in case you might be open to that second look.

This page contains a point-by-point refutation of the half-truths and outright lies published in a pamphlet entitled "66 Questions & Answers About the Holocaust" published as a bible for Holocaust denial by the Institute for Historical Review (IHR).
The IHR's questions and answers have been reproduced unaltered. Nizkor, a website devoted to combatting Holocaust denial, follows their answers by refuting the 66 claims.
Click on Any Question to Reveal the Answer:
General
1. What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed six million Jews?
2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the Nazis?
IHR Says:
Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated "six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
Nizkor Replies:
First of all: in the answer to this question, they claim to have "extensive evidence" to prove that something did not happen. Yet Holocaust-deniers often claim that they do not have to prove anything because, as they say, "it is impossible to prove a negative." Greg Raven has said this at least twice: once implicitly, and once explicitly:
We also note in passing that they ask me to prove a negative, which is impossible.
It is possible to prove a negative, of course, but since none of the "evidence" is given here, it is impossible to respond definitively to this absurd claim. "Forensic evidence " is probably a reference to the fraudulent "Leuchter Report," of which a detailed analysis has been written.
What is this about "demographic evidence"? Didn't they just say in question 1 that "no credible demographic statistics exist"? Another internal contradiction.
"Analytical and comparative evidence" could mean anything. We invite any "revisionist" to explain what this means and to present some of this evidence, and we promise to address it on this page if they do so.
3. Did Simon Wiesenthal once state in writing that "there were no extermination camps on German soil?"
IHR Says:
Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland.
Nizkor Replies:
Wiesenthal's 1975 letter to the editor said:
Because there were no extermination camps on German soil the Neo-Nazis are using this as proof that these crimes did not happen [...]
How ironic that he was not only correct, but that those very words were later misused in the manner he described.
Both answers are correct in themselves: Wiesenthal did indeed indicate in 1975 and in 1993 that there were no extermination camps in what is now Germany. Innocuous as the change seems, it does lead the reader to assume that the most recent statement is some kind of admission that the Holocaust was much more limited than has been maintained and that the truth is finally coming out. Statements like Wiesenthal's are in fact the basis upon which deniers claim that their pressure is forcing the truth out of reluctant historians.
The truth is that historians, and others like Wiesenthal, have attempted repeatedly over the years to dispel several myths about the Holocaust: the mass production of soap made from human fat is a good example.
Another misconception which they have tried to dispel is that the bulk of the extermination of the Jews took place within Germany itself -- or, more properly, within the "Altreich," the prewar boundaries of Germany. While there were indeed gas chambers and homicidal gassings in the Altreich, they were on a much smaller scale than the gassings in the camps in Nazi-occupied Poland, such as Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Kulmhof/Chelmno, Maidanek/Majdanek, and Auschwitz-Birkenau. About three million people, almost exclusively Jews, were gassed to death in those camps. Camp gassings in the Altreich probably claimed the lives of only a few thousand people, almost certainly under ten thousand. Aside from "small-scale" gassing in places like Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, Neuengamme, and Ravensbrück, it was largely confined tothe "euthanasia" program, which did claim the lives of over a hundred thousand people, mostly non-Jews.
The Nazis had at least two good reasons for building the death camps outside of Germany. First, they were easier to conceal from the German people. Given the chaotic wartime conditions in the territory surrounding the Altreich, they were easier to conceal in general.
Second, the vast majority of murdered Jews came from conquered territory to the east and south -- why go to extra trouble to ship them back into Germany? (See the statistics at the end of question 1.)
What is not given any recognition by the deniers is that the latest "admission" by Wiesenthal is exactly what respectable historians have been saying for the past 45 years, starting perhaps with the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary History in 1950. This selectivity amounts to nothing less than lying by omission and innuendo.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 18, 2018 07:31AM

Hitler killed more

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: February 18, 2018 08:50AM

“History would be something extraordinary, if only it were true.” -Leo Tolstoy

“History is written by the victors.” -Winston Churchill

Victory has a thousand fathers. Defeat is an orphan.” -John F. Kennedy

“As the pages turn, the comfortable myths, produced by history written by the victors, are swept aside.” -Paul Craig Roberts

“History is the propaganda of the victors.” ~Ernst Toller

“History is written by the winners.” ~Alex Haley

“Until lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunters.” ~African Proverb

“Clio, the muse of history, is as thoroughly infected with lies as a street whore with syphilis.” -Arthur Schopenhauer

History is not really written by the winners but by people who have Power and in our society, particularly in cultural life, Jewish Zionists Power is not only great, but even paramount.

“He who controls the past [HISTORY] controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past [HISTORY].” -George Orwell

“Diet, injections and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.” -Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society” 1953

“Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do.” -Bertrand Russell

"Some people are so stupid it's not even funny." -Anonymous

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 18, 2018 10:54PM

Hitler is without question #1 KILLER.

All majors recent studies support that statement.

Hitler: 11 millions
Stalin: 6 millions
Mao: 50 millions (but they were from misguided policies that created famine)

Hitler had a very strong intention to kill.

Remember the Final Solution?

If you take into account the millions who died during the bombings of the war he created then we get into the 100 millions.

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Today, after two decades of access to Eastern European archives, and thanks to the work of German, Russian, Israeli, and other scholars, we can resolve the question of numbers. The total number of noncombatants killed by the Germans—about 11 million—is roughly what we had thought. The total number of civilians killed by the Soviets, however, is considerably less than we had believed. We know now that the Germans killed more people than the Soviets did

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But the Hitler and Stalin numbers invite questions that Mao’s higher ones do not. Should we let Hitler, especially, off the hook for combatant deaths in World War II? It’s probably fair to say that without Hitler, there wouldn’t have been a European war.

[www.nybooks.com]

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Mao didn’t order people to their deaths in the same way that Hitler did, so it’s fair to say that Mao’s famine deaths were not genocide—in contrast, arguably, to Stalin’s Holodomor in the Ukraine, the terror-famine described by journalist and historian Anne Applebaum in Red Famine (2017). One can argue that by closing down discussion in 1959, Mao sealed the fate of tens of millions, but almost every legal system in the world recognizes the difference between murder in the first degree and manslaughter or negligence. Shouldn’t the same standards apply to dictators?

[www.nybooks.com]



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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: February 19, 2018 08:09AM

WRONG!!!

STOP READING THE "OFFICIAL STORY" or YOU WILL LEARN NOTHING!!!

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: February 19, 2018 09:40AM

QUOTE_John Rose-STOP READING THE "OFFICIAL STORY" or YOU WILL LEARN NOTHING!!!

Wow Wow Wow wow John, there seems to be 16 million 700,000 OFFICIAL STORYS
to your 120,000 Whud Up with that, Get rewriting bro so you can re-educate.

A google search for Holocaust brings up 16,700,000 results,
whereas Holocaust denial" (without quotes) has 657,000 results.
And Holocaust revisionism ( no quotes) only has 120,000

A person could do their own research on the Holocaust
and learn that deniers are actualy spreading lies, not
spreading a new Version of history.

The vast quantites of information available for the Holocaust relates
to another reason not to be overly worried about denial
on the internet.

Hitler Was not all bad After all he did kill Hitler!



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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: February 19, 2018 11:40PM

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Re: Natural News Forensic Lab
Posted by: The Sproutarian Man
Date: January 12, 2014 03:35PM

anon101 Wrote:
"and the one Lie that they constantly perpetuate is that Hitler was an EVIL man because he killed all of those Jews."

I don't want to get involved with this too much because it polarises opinions and can draw negative attention from people who aren't ready to examine the logic of the Hitler situation, but from my study into this area it does appear to be true that Hitler was not as bad as people made him out to be and that he did not kill the huge number's of jews as claimed.. There is much to the story about Hitler we haven't been told that goes against the logic of the situation. Even a certain high level spiritual master said that Hitler wasn't as bad as the falsified history made him out to be.

I am not saying anymore about it publically because many people don't want to hear it. It's incredible how our history has been falsified about virtually everything it seems.



Re: Natural News Forensic Lab
Posted by: John Rose
Date: January 12, 2014 04:00PM

<<<it polarises opinions and can draw negative attention from people who aren't ready to examine the logic of the Hitler situation>>>

<<<from my study into this area it does appear to be true that Hitler was not as bad as people made him out to be and that he did not kill the huge number's of jews as claimed.>>>

<<<There is much to the story about Hitler we haven't been told that goes against the logic of the situation.>>>

<<<Even a certain high level spiritual master said that Hitler wasn't as bad as the falsified history made him out to be.>>>

Hey TSM,

Thanks for letting me and everyone else know that they’ve been DUPED!!!

I also agree about the difficulty in having an intelligent conversation about this topic because we have an Emotional Reaction before we have a chance to Intellectualize about it, which is known as Amygdalosis.

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Re: Why is Hitler more vilified than Stalin and Mao?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: February 20, 2018 12:01PM

John What is your source of info about Hitler being a good human being?

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