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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: January 20, 2018 01:50AM

Donald Trump supported partial birth abortion
[youtu.be]

Maybe he has had a change of heart for real. One can only hope people change for the better and use their money and power for good, not evil.

I didn't vote for trump. But I also didn't vote for hillary. My state had already picked hillary.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 20, 2018 09:20AM

Tai, I could not not vote for Trump or Hillary, They both stink of RICO!

an old man said to me They say vote for the lesser of the two evils, I say Dont vote for evil period.

So I did a write in from over seas, I voted for Travon Martin for POTUS,
HO CHI MINH vice potus.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 24, 2018 05:28AM

TRUMPS THEATRE OF THE ABURD GETS BETTER BY THE DAY!


E News


Former RNC Chair Michael Steele: Trump’s Evangelical Backers Need To ‘Shut The Hell Up’

“Don’t ever preach to me about anything ever again.”
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has just about had it with evangelical Christian leaders who support President Donald Trump no matter what.
On Monday, Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Christian nonprofit Family Research Council, said Trump gets “a mulligan” or “do-over” over allegations that he paid porn star Stormy Daniels to keep quiet over their reported affair.
Steele wasn’t having it.
“I have a very simple admonition at this point,” Steele said on “Hardball” on MSNBC. “Just shut the hell up and don’t ever preach to me about anything ever again. I don’t want to hear it.”
Steele added:
“After telling me how to live my life, who to love, what to believe, what not to believe, what to do and what not to do and now you sit back and the prostitutes don’t matter? The grabbing the you-know-what doesn’t matter? the outright behavior and lies don’t matter? Just shut up.”


POLITICS 01/23/2018 08:07 pm ET
Melania Trump’s Davos Cancellation A ‘Subliminal Message’ To Donald: Historian
The first lady has kept a low profile since the Stormy Daniels allegations.

By David Moye
X

Melania Trump won’t be attending the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and some are speculating that her cancellation is a “subliminal message” to her husband, Donald Trump.
For one thing, it came on their 13th wedding anniversary, and Inside Edition notes that the first lady has kept a low profile since the allegations that her husband paid $130,000 in hush money to a porn actress who uses the name Stormy Daniels. 
Historian Kate Andersen Brower, who specializes in America’s first ladies, told CNN that Melania Trump’s decision to cancel a major trip is unusual for a variety of reasons.
“It’s pretty unusual, but in modern history, we haven’t seen a couple like this,” she told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “I’m thinking back to Hillary Clinton, when she famously went with President Clinton to Martha’s Vineyard at the height of the impeachment, the trial and things around it.
“It’s a kind of power that a first lady can yield over her husband. And we haven’t had a situation quite as fraught like this since the Clintons, even going back to President Kennedy and his wife, when rumors swirled around their relationship.”
Blitzer pointed out that on the anniversary of Trump’s inauguration, the first lady posted a picture that didn’t feature her husband. He also wondered if there was any meaning in the fact that Melania did not mention the president by name in a statement saying the past year has been filled with many wonderful moments.

“It’s unusual, and I think this goes back to a first lady we don’t hear from a lot,” Bennett said. “But she is A-plus in subliminal messaging. Not a mention of her husband, of the thousands of pictures taken of the two of them this last year. Interesting that she would pick that picture, and it doesn’t mention the president.”


H/T RawStory


Donald Trumps- First Lady Stormy Daniels

  


On another note today by Vincent Fox I'm Not Paying for that @#$%& wall.


Well my fellow Trumpkins I guess that leaves you and me now.


Its a crying shame they had to destroy the Berlin Wall when removing, Trump could have recycled. The wall matched his principals



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: January 24, 2018 10:30AM

Same here, I've NEVER voted in my entire Life. Politics are a waste of human energy, and are a distraction to keep the people divided amongst themselves...

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 25, 2018 04:57AM

TRUMPS REPULICAN THEATRE OF THE ABURD GETS BETTER BY THE DAY!

FISA IS GOING TO GET BIG-SATURADAY NIGHT LIVE COULD NOT COME UP WITH THIS ONE!

WHAT A CREW PT 109 WHERE AE YOU

GOP Lawmaker Gets Sunday-Schooled Over Botched Religious Reference
Rep. Matt Gaetz name-checks the Immaculate Conception, then can’t explain it.

By Ed Mazza

A Republican congressman called thousands of missing FBI text messages “the greatest coincidence since the Immaculate Conception,” then struggled to explain just what he meant. 
The FBI said the messages were lost due to a technical glitch.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) made the comments in a Fox News interview on Wednesday. Later, however, Gaetz stammered his way through a CNN interview when Chris Cuomo asked him to clarify. 
“Where is the analogy?” Cuomo asked. “That’s what I don’t understand. What do you think happened with the Immaculate Conception?”
“Look, did you really bring me on to discuss my religious views, Chris?” Gaetz replied. “I’m a Christian. I believe that the Immaculate Conception was how Jesus was born.”
It was not, in fact, how Jesus was born and Cuomo quickly took Gaetz to church on this one. 
See the full exchange above.   



Lindsay Beyerstein
@Beyerstein

Was Rep. Matt Gaetz (R) implying that the immaculate conception was a cover story for a pregnancy?

 

@RonHogan

Ron Hogan
I really wish @ChrisCuomo had pressed @mattGaetz a bit more precisely on his assertion that the Immaculate Conception was “an amazing coincidence,” rather than on the actually fairly common misconception about whose conception that doctrine covers.
Ron



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 26, 2018 04:53AM

YOU GOT TO SPIN IF YOU WANT TO WIN.


White House Spent Months Denying That Trump Considered Firing Mueller
But The New York Times reports that Trump tried to fire the special counsel in June.


President Donald Trump attempted to fire Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the FBI’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, in June, The New York Times reported Thursday. The Washington Post and Fox News later confirmed the report.
According to the report, the president decided against it after White House counsel Don McGahn threatened to resign over the planned firing. McGahn believed that firing Mueller would only add to speculation over whether the president had obstructed justice by

“We’re at a point where we must decide if we will live consciously, or literally give up our entire reality for a thin veneer of lies. In the US these lies include cheap propaganda that passes for journalism, police-state measures that promise security, and mountains of debt that paint a picture of wealth. … No matter how you voted, what credentials or positions you hold, or what faith you have in people, you will face the consequences of our collective self-deceptions. Now is the time for each of us to decide between a stormy reality and what’s behind the fantasy curtain.”

Kevin



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 26, 2018 06:17AM

QUOTE Jennifer- If Trump wants to practice racism, his incompetence has been staggering

Sorry Not so staggering! Try again. Spin to you win!

Huffingtonpost
BREAKING NEWS:
President Trump has publicly apologised for retweeting far-right group Britain First.
Says he didn't know who they were. 'I don't want to be involved with these people. If you're telling me they're horrible racist people. I certainly apologise.'


QUOTE Jennifer-And no, I'm not a defender of Trump's - I'm a seeker of Truth as it pertains to Lib Lies and Spin.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: January 26, 2018 04:53PM

It seems a lot of Christian leaders are supporting Trump, because he seems amicable to supporting more conservative values NOW. It's really shocking. But some Christians used to be murderers and satanists who woke up.
So some conservatives are giving Trump a second chance.

As a woman, this is a tough pill to swallow.

Here is Trump flip flopping on being democrat, republican and independent over the years. This shouldn't matter, except he was personal friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
[www.newsweek.com]

This is Trump flip flopping on abortion
[www.charismanews.com]

And this is the interview of the porn star who allegedly slept with Trump.
[www.intouchweekly.com]

In the interview, she said they didn't use condoms. Just 4 months after his last son was born. So that will explain his previous approval of abortion.

Trump obviously supported promiscuous sex, porn and massive boob jobs by being with this woman. And that's not all.

When I was trying to understand his character before the election, I listened to some HOward Stern interviews. I can't stand Howard Stern. He is so nasty. But I listened to understand Trump. Some of the more horrendous things he said on Stern's show:
!) he knew Paris Hilton as a child because he was friends with her parents. He said Melania had given him Paris' sex tape and he watched it.
What a creep! And if it's true, then Melania is whorish.
2) Howard Stern and that lady were teasing Trump about his daughter. He was laughing about their proposal of his daughter having a lesbian relationship. He was not offended and laughed

This porn star he slept with did a lot of lesbian film work, according to the internet. And Melania herself did risque lesbian poses in magazines.

So Trump is such a hypocrite.
How can he support such massive boob jobs and be against transgenderism?

From the Past:
[townhall.com]

In 2013, when Mr. Trump owned the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City he brought the first strip club to the area's casinos. Who thought that the gambling ghetto could be brought to a new low? Donald Trump figured out how to do it.

As a frequent guest on The Howard Stern show for many years, Trump repeatedly and consistently spewed pornographic sleaze and advocated a sexually immoral lifestyle, while proudly living one himself. Many of them can be heard through links on BuzzFeed.com, which broke the most comprehensive story on Trump's Stern interviews to date. What you will discover is that Trump often rated women on scale of 1 to 10 according to their looks. He said, for instance, that “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10." He also repeatedly talked about how he could "do" famous women if he chose to, used crude language to describe females, and played the International Playboy role to perfection. Listen to the audio and prepare to be sickened.

But back to the idea of making money off of strippers. Mr. Trump's current (and third) wife, the would be First Lady, has her own record in pornography. In fact, she posed nude in her years as a model. That's right, if the GOP continues down this path of madness we will have a presidential nominee that degrades women, has bragged about his adultery, has made money off of strip tease shows, and a First Lady that has posed totally nude.

It's no wonder that Donald Trump still supports and extols the virtues of Planned Parenthood, the organization that betrays women and girls at the most vulnerable time in their lives; the organization that encourages our teen daughters to be sexually active; the organization that is now notorious for selling baby body parts. It is the very philosophy of Planned Parenthood that Donald Trump uses to justify his decadent lifestyle choices. To both, women are largely sexual objects and men are allowed to treat them that way



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: January 27, 2018 12:10PM

[www.google.com]

As bad as the affair with the porn star was, Trump wanted to double it.

Why did he change to supposed conservative later? Is it because his wife wouldn't even hold his hand? And his daughter believes in hell?

[www.google.com]

[www.google.com]

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 27, 2018 05:26PM


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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 27, 2018 07:22PM

people in a democracy don't always get what they deserve because sometimes corrupt judges and electoral colleges disenfranchises the peoples vote

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 27, 2018 07:58PM

Quote
riverhousebill
people in a democracy don't always get what they deserve because sometimes corrupt judges and electoral colleges disenfranchises the peoples vote

Yes but the judges and electoral colleges were elected by the people and are part of the people.

Even the people who are not voting are making a political choice, they are indirectly choosing the person who may not well represent their views to be elected. The Clinton backers who did not vote really voted for Trump.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 27, 2018 08:54PM

electoral colleges, origin check it out by the people, I just don't know if plantation owners, slave owners If id call them the people

Few Americans would support the Electoral College system if they knew the full story of its origins.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 27, 2018 09:09PM

Every one is one of the people.
The king and the slave.
Even the low class people and the slave can revolt and change history.
It is their choice to keep the status quo.
If you go to places like North Korea you will see that the people there love their leader.
They do not want to believe he could be wrong.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 27, 2018 10:58PM

Every one is one of the people.

if that where true in past history then why could black people not vote?

If you go to places like North Korea you will see that the people there love their leader.
They do not want to believe he could be wrong

Quote rhb- If you go to south Korea and spend a year on the 38th as I did, you would hear another story told by many from south Koreans who wanted one Korea and did not at all believe what you hear in U. S, press.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 27, 2018 11:44PM

>if that where true in past history then why could black people not vote?

Because it was not a condition that was correct
that is why the like of Martin Luther King
and Rosa Park came and fought to change the situation.

They fought to restore the natural order of things.


Now they can vote but most do not vote by choice.

Quote

.. the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press predicted that 6 in 10 voting-age adults would not show up at the polls on Election Day


[www.americanprogress.org]

[www.washingtonpost.com]



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2018 12:20AM

Now they can vote but most do not vote by choice.



Hold your horses till the mid term elections.

I'm ready to bet anyone a nickle you are going to see a profound change
on that note.

So much for by the people when you did not have the right of vote.
Who changed that the kkk white surpremist? people like EMMIT TILL with his life?



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2018 03:19AM

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2018 04:06AM

Quote Rawpraticalist-Now they can vote but most do not vote by choice.

Could this maybe be part of reason why,

And of course we are free to pick from reality or the fantasy curtain as to whats going down! why some don't vote.

(ATLANTIC)
How Voter ID Laws Are Being Used to Disenfranchise Minorities and the Poor
Andrew Cohen




Conservatives say this kind of legislation is meant to curb voter fraud. But while evidence of fraud is scant, proof of the regulations' failings is not.


Associated Press
First, let's call it what it is. The burgeoning battles over state redistricting and voter ID laws -- and the larger fight over a key part of the Voting Rights Act itself -- are all cynical expressions of the concerns many conservatives (of both parties) have about the future of the American electorate. The Republican lawmakers who are leading the fight for the restrictive legislation say they are doing so in the name of stopping election fraud -- and, really, who's in favor of election fraud? But the larger purpose and effect of the laws is to disenfranchise Hispanic voters, other minorities, and the poor -- most of whom, let's also be clear, vote for Democrats.
Jonathan Chait, in a smart recent New York magazine piece titled "2012 or Never," offered some numbers supporting the theory. "Every year," Chait wrote, "the nonwhite proportion of the electorate grows by about half a percentage point -- meaning that in every presidential election, the minority share of the vote increases by 2 percent, a huge amount in a closely divided country." This explains, for example, why Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona are turning purple instead of staying red. "By 2020," Chait writes, "nonwhite voters should rise from a quarter of the 2008 electorate to one third. In 30 years, "nonwhites will outnumber whites."

Which is why "whites," and especially white men, seem so determined this election cycle to make it harder for nonwhites to exercise their right to vote. The news from the front this week is telling. On Wednesday, in Pennsylvania, GOP Governor Tom Corbett raced to sign a bill that requires photo identification of voters. The day before, in Texas, GOP Attorney General Greg Abbott amended the Lone Star State's complaint against the federal government to seek to strike down the pre-clearance section of the Voting Rights Act, which had in turn been used by the Justice Department to block Texas' recent efforts at a stringent new voter-ID law.
In Wisconsin, meanwhile, a state court judge on Monday blocked the state's new voter ID law, ruling that it unconstitutionally created a new (and lower) class of citizen-voter. Even the Human Rights Council of the United Nations has been dragged into the controversy, by the NAACP, to the great consternation of conservative bloggers and conspiracy theorists. It's all happening because lawmakers are dissatisfied with less onerous identification requirements -- like those just enacted in Virginia -- which allow registered voters to produce a wide range of documentation to establish that they are who they say they are.
Even though the Justice Department acted first in December in blocking a South Carolina voter-ID law, election law experts seem to agree that the Texas case is going to be the tip of the spear. Here's how the Justice Department responded when it reviewed Texas' new voter-ID law. Federal lawyers wrote:
[W]e conclude that the total number of registered voters who lack a driver's license or personal identification card issued by DPS could range from 603,892 to 795,955. The disparity between the percentages of Hispanics and non-Hispanics who lack these forms of identification ranges from 46.5 to 120.0 percent. That is, according to the state's own data, a Hispanic registered voter is at least 46.5 percent, and potentially 120.0 percent, more likely than a non-Hispanic registered voter to lack this identification. Even using the data most favorable to the state, Hispanics disproportionately lack either a driver's license or a personal identification card issued by DPS, and that disparity is statistically significant.
There's more. As Brentin Mock wrote earlier this week at Colorlines, the practical reality of life in Texas makes it difficult, if not impossible, for people who want to comply with the new ID law to do so. Mock wrote:
Texas has no driver's license offices in almost a third of the state's counties. Meanwhile, close to 15 percent of Hispanic Texans living in counties without driver's license offices don't have ID. A little less than a quarter of driver's license offices have extended hours, which would make it tough for many working voters to find a place and time to acquire the IDs. Despite this, the Texas legislature struck an amendment that would have reimbursed low-income voters for travel expenses when going to apply for a voter ID, and killed another that would have required offices to remain open until 7:00 p.m. or later on just one weekday, and four or more hours at least two weekends.
Here's how Governor Rick Perry responded:
Texas has a responsibility to ensure elections are fair, beyond reproach, and accurately reflect the will of voters. The DOJ has no valid reason for rejecting this important law, which requires nothing more extensive than the type of photo identification necessary to receive a library card or board an airplane. Their denial is yet another example of the Obama Administration's continuing and pervasive federal overreach.

Continuing and pervasive federal overreach. We've heard that refrain before, as constantly as a chorus in fact, since President Obama took office in 2009. Opponents of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, for example, have asserted that Congress overreached its authority under the Commerce Clause when it enacted. Now many of those same people say that the Justice Department is overreaching with its interpretation of the Voting Rights Act by seeking to void these state ID laws -- and that the federal law itself is a statutory overreach that violates the 10th Amendment right of states to determine their own election rules.

Which brings us to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who alone among his colleagues has expressed interest in striking down section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. In 2009, in a case styled Northwest Austin v. Holder, Justice Thomas memorably proclaimed "victory" in the federal war against state laws designed to disenfranchise black voters. "The constitutionality of section 5 has always depended," he wrote, "on the proven existence of intentional discrimination so extensive that elimination of it through case-by-case enforcement would be impossible ... 'There can be no remedy without a wrong.'" (citations omitted by me)
And then Justice Thomas wrote this:
The lack of sufficient evidence that the covered jurisdictions currently engage in the type of discrimination that underlay the enactment of §5 undermines any basis for retaining it. Punishment for long past sins is not a legitimate basis for imposing a forward-looking preventative measure that has already served its purpose. Admitting that a prophylactic law as broad as §5 is no longer constitutionally justified based on current evidence of discrimination is not a sign of defeat. It is an acknowledgment of victory.
So if section 5 doesn't apply to "long past sins" against black voters, what about current sins against Hispanic voters? If the Voting Rights Act was originally designed to protect the rights of black Americans to vote, do we now need a new Voting Rights Act that would protect the rights of Hispanic Americans to vote? If so, why aren't federal lawmakers tripping over themselves to get on the good side of a voting bloc that is going to increase in power over the next generation? Oh, that's right. As Chait reminds us, we are not quite yet at the point at which the benefit of shilling for Hispanic votes outweighs the burden of angering white voters.

It's unlikely new legislation is needed -- we can still use the old reliable 1965 statute and apply it to new circumstances like the ones presented now. But does the discriminatory effect of state ID laws have to be so bad -- "violence, terror and subterfuge" is how Justice Thomas put it -- before the federal government may step in against a state? Or is it enough to establish that there is a national effort by conservative groups to press for these types of laws? (Ironic, isn't it, in a dispute conservatives argue is states' rights, that so many of these state voter ID laws would be conceived within the Beltway.)
Several commentators over the past week or so have called the current generation of voter ID laws "a solution in search of a problem." But that doesn't give enough respect to the argument that we should as a nation strive to be as accurate as possible with our voting. If voting fraud is the third oldest profession, and if it is somehow rampant in all these states that have Republican leaders at their helm, then there should be reasonable ways to combat it. No responsible lawmaker ought to be against that. But no one seems able to find good evidence that a crisis is at hand. All Texas Attorney General Abbott could muster this week was this:
Since 2002, the U.S. Department of Justice has prosecuted more than 100 defendants for election fraud. During the same period, election fraud investigations by the Texas Attorney General's Office have resulted in 50 convictions. Those cases include a woman who submitted her dead mother's ballot, a paid operative who cast two elderly voters' ballots after transporting them to the polling place, a city council member who unlawfully registered ineligible foreign nationals to vote in an election that was decided by a 19-vote margin, a Starr County defendant who voted twice on Election Day, a Harris County man who used his deceased father's voter registration card to vote in an election, a worker who pled guilty after attempting to vote for two of her family members, and a Brooks County man who presented another voter's registration card and illegally cast that voter's ballot on Election Day.
In 10 years, just 100 federal prosecutions and 50 state convictions -- in a colossal state with a population of more than 25 million people. You can do the math. You can be stupid and vote in America. You can be drunk and vote in America. You can be mentally insane and vote in America. You could vote in America for Snooki or Rod Blagojevich. Or, like tens of millions of your fellow citizens, you can choose not to vote at all. But if you don't have the means to get a driver's license, or if you cannot afford the time and money it takes to get certain other forms of government ID, you are out of luck? What a great country this is.
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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: January 28, 2018 09:22AM

>How Voter ID Laws Are Being Used to Disenfranchise Minorities and the Poor

True the bad guys will always try to get you not to vote
but you can always beat them at their game by having your id made.

The civil right battles (and death) Martin Luther King and others had to fight
was much harder than getting a state ID made.
This actually makes life easier in many others ways.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2018 10:14AM

GOP CHAIRMAN STEVE CURTIS CLASSIC REPUBLICAN EXAMPLE



Quote raw Practicalist
The civil right battles (and death) Martin Luther King and others had to fight
was much harder than getting a state ID made.
This actually makes life easier in many others ways.

May be makes life easier for some but for black people it still seems pointless because, When like this Colorado GOP chairman sentenced for voter fraud Today he had Id, but some how thought he was his wife and voted that way.

With only 100 case,s of voter fraud in USA in Ten years And One of those is GOP CHAIRMAN, Another famed Twinkie Defense claimed WOW, Remember Dan White and the twinkie Defense, if your a republican Id bet not, Any way so @#$%& classic, GOP Chairman Steve Curtis claims @#$%& up sugar level and thinks he is his wife and voted that way.


Classic REPUBLICAN FRAUDSTERS




Breaking News

CBS/AP January 27, 2018, 10:11 PM
Former Colorado GOP chairman sentenced for voter fraud

  A jury found Steve Curtis, 58, guilty in December 2017 for signing his ex-wife's ballot during the 2016 election. Weld County DA via CBS Denver


GREELEY, Colo. -- The former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party was sentenced to four years of probation and 300 hours of community service for voter fraud. Steve Curtis blamed a "major diabetic episode" for causing him to vote his ex-wife's absentee ballot in October 2016.
Curtis, 57, told District Judge Julie Hoskins Friday it was "a customary thing" for him to fill out his wife's ballot and he didn't know it was illegal, but he said he didn't remember doing it.
In October of 2016, Kelly Curtis called the Weld County Clerk and Recorder's Office to obtain her mail-in ballot. She was told she had already voted, CBS Denver reports. 
The Weld County District Attorney's Office investigated and, using DNA evidence and handwriting analysis, alleged that Steve Curtis forged his wife's name on her ballot and mailed it to the clerk's office.
"He knew exactly what he was doing," said Deputy District Attorney Tate Costin during the trial's closing arguments. "He received it in the mail, opened it, voted, signed it, sealed it back up and sent it in. If he were going to sign a name during this confused diabetic state, wouldn't he sign his own name? Why her name? She hadn't even lived in the house for 11 months."
During the sentencing hearing Friday morning, Curtis shared a lengthy history of mental and physical ailments, and continued to claim he still doesn't remember signing his ex-wife's ballot.
"It was a normal and customary thing in my house with my prior wife and with Kelly (Curtis), to fill out their ballots. … I didn't know that was illegal," Curtis said Friday to Weld District Court Judge Julie Hoskins, according to the Greeley Tribune. "But at no time did I plan this, and I still don't remember doing it."
"He committed a selfish and arrogant crime," Coston said during Friday's sentencing. "This was not a product of a diabetic blackout. He did this out of spite and thought he'd get away with this. He not only took away his ex-wife's right to vote in the 2016 election, but this affected the nation. His one fraudulent vote created an insecurity in our system and created discomfort throughout the country. He is educated, successful and intelligent, yet he has never once taken responsibility for what he did and has blamed everything and everyone, including the sytem. Bottom line, he has absolutely no respect for the the law."
Coston asked the judge for a sentence including jail time with probation. Judge Hoskins instead decided on a penalty of four years probation and 300 hours of community service.
Steve Curtis, said District Attorney Michael Rourke following the December verdict, "saw an opportunity to vote twice in one of the most important presidential elections in recent history and intentionally defrauded our system. No matter the political party you belong to, we must always stand up to those who strip away the rights of others."



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: January 28, 2018 06:38PM

Well riverhousebill, you've pointed out a lot of negatives of Trump and the Republicans. Do you see any positive policies or legislation coming out of this administration and it's influence on Congress?


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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: January 28, 2018 07:04PM

rhb, have you heard of the Jimmy Dore Show, on YouTube? Jimmy Dore is a progressive Bernie supporter who pokes fun at the corporatist Democrats in office now. I bet if you watch a few episodes you may enjoy it.


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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2018 08:44PM

Well riverhousebill, you've pointed out a lot of negatives of Trump and the Republicans. Do you see any positive policies or legislation coming out of this administration and it's influence on Congress?

On the positive, side for the Potus Trump. I say He should get a medal for busting the good ole boy system that'I feel has been in been in place since the days of the Mounted U.S. Calvary.

With an infected wound sometimes, Heat will bring the infection to a head,
then things can start to heal.

just maybe with all his @#$%& stiring this could be his idea of a way to make change in a very corrupt system???

Trump has sure as hell loaded the tables and people debating and orginizing like never before it seems. blackwomen vote effect with Roy Moore in Ala an example of the revolution to over throw imbedded good ole boys.

He has inspired a revolution, You will see results of this revolution in the midterms Id bet.

So yes this is the good we might see from what his admin has done.

In China the word catastrophe also means opportunity.

Trumps admin besides breaking up the good ole boy network has shown
We have this opportunity and can make change if so desired.
This is the positive side I see from Trumkinville cause and effect.
other than that I see no other good.

The fact that his father was a member of the KKK arrested with them In NYC bothers me some, Because I believe from what ive seen and heard out of his mouth
he might as well be a member also. Father like son yes it seems.

Ive said before I don't like the two party system, Both stink of RICO in my eyes

I saw Obama was outside of the standard mold his own party tried to shoot him down Quote Hillary- Obama not fit to run country, And Bills racist comment Super preditors, those two more racist than Cheeto I think!.

I grew up in N.J. just sixty miles north of Atlantic City
Big state but It seems in N.J. everyone knows someone who knows so and so,
Ive known friends who worked for chetto in A C in that mob controlled city
of casino, after collapse of standard boardwalk enterainment industry.
Ive traveld a few roads in my 66 years and in that time I worked for the mob,
More on that at a later time, I knew Donald Trumps favorate Pimp spent six months with John Ceronie in Cumberland County Jail not far from atlantic City
I knew the runnings of that city and level of Mafia control which was 100 percent.
So when he was elected, for me it was like holly @#$%& now we are super @#$%&.


Prana, Mr Williams says it better than I can about what I'm seeing.
and feeling.




Matt Williams, Historian, professional writer, former educator.
Answered Aug 12


The answer to that is a resounding no. Trump has done absolutely nothing in 7 months, let alone 14 days. In fact, his entire legacy at this point is the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorusch. Beyond that, his administration has been entirely ineffective and even downright laughable.
But let me put it in perspective. In eight years, Obama turned the American economy around. He inherited a situation where America was in the worst slump since the Great Depression. When he entered office, America had lost 8 million jobs and the financial sector was in a terrible recession. By 2016, it had gained over 11.3 million jobs and had experienced the longest period of sustained economic growth in US history.
He ended two unresolved deployments that Bush had left with him - Iraq and Afghanistan - which were costing American taxpayers billions and led to the deaths of thousands of US and Coalition personnel and over 500,000 - 1,000,000 Afghanis and Iraqis. He also mobilized a coalition of forces to oppose ISIS, and brought sanctions against the Syrians for their use of chemical weapons and sanctions against Russia for their invasion of the Crimea and human rights abuses.
He passed a healthcare bill - the Affordable Care Act (ACA) - which cut the number of uninsured Americans in half. He forced Iran to come to the negotiating table and accept limitations on its nuclear capacity which put an end to years of nuclear tension and escalating threats. He ended the diplomatic standoff with Cuba that had been going on for generations and accomplished nothing. He also green-lighted the operation that killed Osama bin Laden after two years in office, which Bush had failed to do during the previous eight years that he was in office.
And that’s just the big-ticket items.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: January 28, 2018 09:05PM

I'm sorry but Obama gave Iran the means to make nuclear weapons, just as Bill Clinton gave North Korea the means to make nuclear weapons. Even though both agreements with Iran and North Korea forbade the creation of nuclear weapons with the technology that was part of the agreement, North Korean now has nuclear weapons.

As for what Trump has done, here are the positives:

Out of TPP, TTIP.
Out of Paris accords
Tax cuts. This is huge. Apple is repatriating $240 billion, making a $350 billion investment in US factories. Probably over a million people now have a bonus from their companies of $1000-$3000. Many corporations are raising their minimum wages.
USA involvement in NWO is dead under trump.
22 regulations cut for every new regulation
13,000+ sealed indictments
1000's of trafficking arrests
300 CEOs step down
Systematic dismantling of Project Mockingbird (still a long ways to go)
Fixing immigration nightmare.

The NWO ideal country is North Korea. The goal was to convert the freedoms we have to the freedoms the North Koreans have. Like that??


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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: January 28, 2018 09:15PM

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riverhousebill
I saw Obama was outside of the standard mold his own party tried to shoot him down Quote Hillary- Obama not fit to run country, And Bills racist comment Super preditors, those two more racist than Cheeto I think!.

Speaking of racism, here's one of our favorite politician with KKK member Senator Robert Byrd:

Secretary Clinton Comments on the Passing of Robert Byrd


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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: January 28, 2018 09:18PM

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riverhousebill

In eight years, Obama turned the American economy around. He inherited a situation where America was in the worst slump since the Great Depression. When he entered office, America had lost 8 million jobs and the financial sector was in a terrible recession. By 2016, it had gained over 11.3 million jobs and had experienced the longest period of sustained economic growth in US history.
He ended two unresolved deployments that Bush had left with him - Iraq and Afghanistan - which were costing American taxpayers billions and led to the deaths of thousands of US and Coalition personnel and over 500,000 - 1,000,000 Afghanis and Iraqis. He also mobilized a coalition of forces to oppose ISIS, and brought sanctions against the Syrians for their use of chemical weapons and sanctions against Russia for their invasion of the Crimea and human rights abuses.
He passed a healthcare bill - the Affordable Care Act (ACA) - which cut the number of uninsured Americans in half. He forced Iran to come to the negotiating table and accept limitations on its nuclear capacity which put an end to years of nuclear tension and escalating threats. He ended the diplomatic standoff with Cuba that had been going on for generations and accomplished nothing. He also green-lighted the operation that killed Osama bin Laden after two years in office, which Bush had failed to do during the previous eight years that he was in office.
And that’s just the big-ticket items.


Wow, if I only had the time to refute this whole thing. But just off the top of my head - God, he (Obama) started more wars and dropped more bombs than who knows who from what I read a while ago.

Economy - from what I've heard the Economy limped along on Obama and now since Trump, it's going gangbusters, the least unemployment, whatever. Probably thanks to getting rid of some of the onerous regulations. Not to mention the stock market has taken off like a rocket since Trump got in.

That crap healthcare bill has been dying a slow death since it was started, but thanks to the RINO's they keep it limping along unfortunately.

Give me a break on the Osama bin Laden killing thing. That's the fishiest 'official story' ever - that Osama bin Laden was connected with 911 and that he was hiding out in the mountains and all the other stupid stuff. Yes, big Conspiracy Theory that Osama bin Laden was ever relevant; just used as a scapegoat as far as I'm concerned, and of course I don't know 'what really happened', but anybody who isn't a statist has got to figure that whole 911/Osama bin Laden/War on Terror/Iraq/Saddam Hussein was fishy. Osama bin Laden got killed when and by which president 'they' decided, it wasn't Obama's brilliant move, he was just a pawn.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: January 28, 2018 09:44PM

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He ended two unresolved deployments that Bush had left with him - Iraq and Afghanistan - which were costing American taxpayers billions and led to the deaths of thousands of US and Coalition personnel and over 500,000 - 1,000,000 Afghanis and Iraqis. He also mobilized a coalition of forces to oppose ISIS, and brought sanctions against the Syrians for their use of chemical weapons and sanctions against Russia for their invasion of the Crimea and human rights abuses.

Yeah, I just looked up Obama and Wars and there are a million articles on all the killing, bombs, wars, etcs. he's done, started, so come on. Don't insult my intelligence.

Here's Obama Started More Wars -

[www.google.com]

Obama's War Legacy - good article -

[time.com]

More Bombs - even the mainstream media wrote stories about all the bombing Obama did -

[www.thebureauinvestigates.com]

[www.nbcnews.com]

[www.independent.co.uk]

**********

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign

[www.theguardian.com]

According to new figures, the US dropped nearly three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day.

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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 29, 2018 08:14AM

Quote Jennifer- Don't insult my intelligence.

Jennifer I'm not insulting you intelligence,

You do that to your self when you makes claims like Obama droped more bombs.
Please stop insuilting your self, I'm embarrassed for you.

Anyone can see the distortion atemps posted by many on internet trying to falsely Blame Obama As Best Bomber,

After one exits from behind the FOX Moo,s NEWSLESS SOURCES FANTASY CURTAIN
and looks at facts in history you will FIND REPUBLICANS GET THE BEST BOMBERS AWARD!

And Republican Potus Nixon gets that award not Obama.

Most republicans are ignorant to the facts of tonnage of bombs droped in wars
and could care less.

Oh yeh Jennifer that was yesterday so we are not looking back that far, I can hear you already, So go head girl SPIN TO YOU WIN Obama best bomber

This continual hysterical reaction to the first black potus
is very disgusting and low, baseless lies every day.

Continual distortion of true facts by people with racism in their gene pool.
I say that because the charges trying to paint Obama best bomber are just a lie and twisted. Historic facts prove this charge posted by Jennifer is just another every day hysterical reaction to first black potus


Sorry Jennifer Nixon A republican potus wins the best BOMBER AWARD.


VIETNAM WAR STATISTICS

total U.S. cost of the Vietnam war at $200 Billion Total U.S. bomb tonnage dropped during: World War II = 2,057,244 tons Vietnam War = 7,078,032 tons (3-1/2 times WWII tonnage) Bomb tonnage dropped during the Vietnam War amounted to 1,000 lbs. for every man, woman and child in Vietnam. An estimated 70,000 draft evaders and "dodgers" were living in Canada by 1972. An estimated 3 million people were killed by the war, and over 1 million were wounded.



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Re: What Would You Say to an Embarrassed Trump Voter?
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 29, 2018 10:27AM

Even when you consider this fact that the other RICO party Democrates started the Vietnam war, and ruled a big part of the 10,000 day war, repulican Nixon admin wins the most bombs droped award so sorry Jennifer not Obama


And lets not forget this other group of folks who received most of their airmail from Republican POTUS NIXON. 26,000 score Obama -280 million score Republican NIXON- just in cluster bombs alone 280 million.



A Laotian girl leans against a row of recovered UXOs.
Laos is historically referred to as “Lan Xang,” the land of a million elephants. Today, it would be more accurate to call it the land of a million bombs.
From 1964 to 1973, as part of the Secret War operation conducted during the Vietnam War, the US military dropped 260 million cluster bombs – about 2.5 million tons of munitions – on Laos over the course of 580,000 bombing missions. This is equivalent to a planeload of bombs being unloaded every eight minutes, 24 hours a day, for nine years – nearly seven bombs for every man, woman and child living in Laos.
It is more than all the bombs dropped on Europe throughout World War II, leaving Laos, a country approximately the size of Utah, with the unfortunate distinction of being the most heavily bombed country in history.



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