Racism and bigotry is fine if you're a minority -

“Comedian” Chris Rock Openly Calls for White Kids to Be Shot

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"Chris Rock: “I want to live in a world where an equal amount of white kids are shot every month” he continued “I want to see white mothers on TV crying”.

To watch a black comedian with a net worth of $70 million in a country with a majority white population whine about his victimhood is just pathetic. And for anyone who thinks it’s okay for Rock to spew this kind of hatred for whites in a video because he’s a ‘comedian,” you may want to watch this video (especially starting at the 3:10 mark) because there’s nothing funny about anything he has to say:

“My dad used to say: ‘You can’t beat white people at anything…nothing. But you can knock ’em out.'”

‘In my neighborhood, there’s like 3- 4 black people in my neighborhood in Alpine. It’s me, Gary Sheffield, Mary Jane Blige, Patrick Ewing. Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, greatest R & B singer of our time. Who lives next to me? What’s the white man next to me? He’s a dentist. He didn’t invent anything, he’s just a dentist. That’s what America is.

(So, going to college and becoming a successful dentist is something that was ‘given’ to him?) Tell the third generation white coal miner about his ‘white privilege’ Chris. Tell the white single mom flipping burgers by day and cleaning hotel rooms by night about her “white privilege” Chris. Maybe, just maybe, if you took off your racist goggles for 5 minutes, you might see that blacks don’t have the market on victimhood.

And if you think anything has changed since victim Chris Rock made this racist video, here is a video he made about the Confederate flag 3 years ago. Watch as he attempts to mock every white person (or “cracker” as he calls them)."

Most popular comics have foul mouths. It's not race specific. Whatever topic is at hand, they turn it foul, in my opinion. If it's about race, they turn it edgy, but white comics don't have that leeway.

The only comics that are PG are the clean comics. Clean comics are not race specific either. I have watched plenty of clean comics of color.

It's better to attack the genre of popular comedy rather than a foul mouthed black comic. If you watch an R rated white comic, the sexual language is disgusting and the filthy language is deplorable, just degenerate.

I have a white friend with very blond hair and blue eyes and he says he is scared of white men with guns. If you look at all the mass shootings recently, it's done by white men.

Society needs to change its morals. People shouldn't watch immoral movies. Audiences shouldn't reward foul mouthed entertainers with views. HOllywood shouldn't make horror films unless it's based on a true story or true potential with a warning versus glorification of evil. They shouldn't make video games teaching kids to kill, kill, kill. Society is suffering from atheism compared to a time where people actually believed a holy God was watching them. There is still tremendous racism in the school system which holds black people back and foments frustration by stifling their potential. Drugs are pushed instead of natural cures and natural solutions to people's mental and physical problems. Sex is degraded to an animal level. And the art forms and entertainment just showcase the current morals and what is popular.

People need to upgrade their moral values and the art forms and entertainment will follow.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2018 12:11AM by Tai.

Agree with almost everything you said.

Not sure about this :

"There is still tremendous racism in the school system which holds black people back and foments frustration by stifling their potential."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2018 02:29AM by Jennifer.

However this -

"I have a white friend with very blond hair and blue eyes and he says he is scared of white men with guns. If you look at all the mass shootings recently, it's done by white men."

Your friend should be more afraid of black men, because -

"Statistics show that since 1982, the majority of mass shootings — 54 percent — were committed by white men, according to data from Mother Jones. Black people were the second largest perpetrators of mass shootings based on ethnic background, but only accounted for roughly 16 percent of the total incidents during the same time period."

BUT -

"The high number of white men committing mass shootings is also explained, at least in part, by the fact white people make up a majority of the U.S. population (63 percent) and men are more likely to commit violent crime in general."

So yeah, white men commit the most mass murders, but there are more white men in the US - duh!

So - PROPORTIONATELY -

There are 63% White Men in the US, but only 54% of White Men commit mass shootings.

There are 12% Black Men in the US, but there are 16% of Black Men who commit mass shootings.

(Hispanic or Latino Men are 12% of the population, but only 5% Hispanic or Latino Men commit mass shootings)

(Here's the article like tons of other articles that - White Men Commit the Most Mass Murders)

WHITE MEN HAVE COMMITTED MORE MASS SHOOTINGS THAN ANY OTHER GROUP

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Yet all you ever see and hear is -

"White Men commit the most mass murders." Or -

"Most mass murders are committed by White Men."

Yeah, no kidding - BUT IN PROPORTION TO THE POPULATION WHITE MEN COMMIT LESS MASS SHOOTINGS THAN BLACK MEN!

But you never, ever hear or see that qualifier!

Just another way for the Libs to lie, spin and twist to demonize Whites and Men, White Men.

Goodnight Trumpkins


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WASHINGTON – The first Latina elected to Congress said Sunday the GOP is in danger of becoming a marginalized party without a broader appeal beyond older, white men.
“I think that we would be foolish to not see that we’re heading into trouble,” Rep. Ilena Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) told CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday.
First elected in 1989, Ros-Lehtinen warned that “few women” and minorities are running as Republicans and there’s not enough effort to recruit diverse candidates or appeal to young voters.
“So the growth of our party seems to be very limited in a specific group, whereas the demographics of our great country is changing greatly,” Ros-Lehtinen said.
“When you look ahead, what’s our future going to be? Are we going to end up a marginalized party? I think that we need to look toward the future, and we need to have the policies that attract millennials, women and minorities. I don’t see that.”



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I have a white friend with very blond hair and blue eyes and he says he is scared of white men with guns. If you look at all the mass shootings recently, it's done by white men.

Actually that's not true - 'recently' is inaccurate -

"Are more recent shootings whiter? The answer is no: of the 27 shootings in the past five years where the murderer’s race is recorded, 10 (37%) were committed by white men."

Are mass shootings a white man’s problem?

[theconversation.com]

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Fact of life is rifles account for 13 percent of crime with guns.

The rest hand guns.

Jennifer quotes 99.9% guns owned never used in a crime, OK but you see with over 300 million guns in America, that one tenth is why we need to disarm you folks!

Do the math

"Some have put race at the centre of their explanations. Mass shootings, they argue, reveal something sinister in the heart of whiteness.

A Newsweek headline asserted -

White men have committed more mass shootings than any other group.


At CNN a commentator opined that “America has silently accepted the rage of white men” and diagnosed mass shootings as “a white man’s problem”. Elle magazine told us “white men’s violence is the violence we’ve normalized” and that “white men’s rage … is burning down the world”.

There is no shortage of violence committed by white men. Their violent behaviour is sometimes viewed differently from that committed by other groups. But is it true there is a link between whiteness and mass shootings?

Mother Jones magazine has collated a database of American mass shootings that extends from 1982 to now. It contains a grievous record of 91 crimes where a shooter killed at least four victims. The race of the shooter was coded as unknown or unclear in three cases. Of the 88 remaining shootings, 51 (58%) were committed by whites.

Sure enough, the statistically typical mass shooter is a white man. But is that evidence for a meaningful link between race and this form of violence? Not if we remember that whites are statistically typical Americans.

According to the 2016 US census, 61.3% of Americans were “white alone, not Hispanic or Latino”. The proportion of white mass shooters is therefore almost exactly what we would expect it to be if whites and non-whites committed mass shootings at the same rate. Indeed it is (trivially) lower.

This graph plots the proportion of the 88 mass shooters in census-based racial groups against each group’s proportion in the US population. The dotted line represents equality between the two proportions. Groups falling above or below the line have committed mass shootings above or below the rate expected given their representation in the population. Generally speaking, groups defined by race have committed these outrages at approximately the same rate, given their relative size."

The Founding Fathers Explain The Second Amendment

There’s a lot going around about the Second Amendment. Some on the left have been spreading a little rumor that it isn’t necessarily about protecting any right of the individual. Some say it doesn’t hold water compared to the government’s ideas on ensuring public safety.

Let’s not forget that the Amendment, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,” isn’t our only clue to determine what the founders thought of the right to bear arms. They’ve left behind plenty of writings which outline the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

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“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

“On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence … I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

“To disarm the people…s the most effectual way to enslave them.” – George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

“…the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone…” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” – William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” – Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

“This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty…. The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” – St. George Tucker, Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.” – Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War” in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

“The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.” – Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty …. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” – Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

“For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

“f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” – Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

Jennifer, my friend was expressing his truest feeling. You can't argue with him. America was rocked with Dylan Roof killing several black people IN CHURCH!!! That was one of the worst shootings ever, because it was race motivated, the people were completely innocent and they were trying to be christian and be in church.

That follows the crazy Columbine shootings, the Dark Knight shooting, the Sandy HOok Shooting, then Las Vegas mass shooting, the Texas church shooting (that was insane...the man tried to kill everyone in church), then another mass shooting I think in Washington State, then another school shooting. All these shootings were done by white men.

Without arguing or denying any of your statistics and analysis of blacks committing crime, my white friend was traumatized by his fellow white men doing these mass shootings.

The first step to growth is admitting there is a problem. The first step is to admit it. My friend admitted it. The second step is to look for a cause and solution. My friend used to be on the atheist side. After starting to connect the dots, learn about some conspiracies and facing how one of his idols is a member of the bohemian grove, he no longer could remain in his comfort zone of atheism.

Dylan Roof was an avid reader of a white supremacist website that advocated violence. He is an atheist. The columbine shooters read the satanic bible of the church of Satan and were huge fans of Marilyn Manson who is also a member of the church of satan. The white man who shot his ex wife's church up in Texas also is an atheist. The man who shot and killed a bunch of people this past week in Florida was part of a white supremacy group.

My white friend who didn't care about spiritual beliefs has been continually bombarded by these kinds of news stories and it has given him pause and changed him.

Black people can get involved with satanic things too. In Haiti, they practice voodoo which is evil and murderous. In Africa, they have satanism and witchcraft which may involve cannabalism, but it's also practiced by white satanists too. Skin color doesn't really matter. And sadly there are some music videos out now by black musicians glorifying selling your soul to the devil (and of course white artists do that too from Katy Perry, Lady Gaga to the death/heavy metal types and then you see them at parties by Marina Abramovic where they have food in the shape of dead human cadavers and everyone pretends to eat dead human).
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Hollywood Cannibalism Dinner

I know some very ethical vegans who are atheists, so I don't mean to insult atheism, as to implicate atheism in murder. But when someone has a murderous side to them, atheism makes them less inhibited. A lot of murderous politicians profess to believe in god, but that's just lip service.

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How Jesus Changed a Man who Tried to Kill Entire Family by Showing Him Heaven and Hell
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Atheist has a vision just before commiting murder against 8 people. The vision changed his life forever.

Tai's note: even if hell is not eternal for some people and is just long enough for some people to repay their sins and reincarnate, that kind of vision will not reform some people. a lot of criminals/bad people were reformed after seeing an eternal hell. Yet Buddha shakyamuni talked about the avici hell, where really bad ones go, and there is no escape.

I don't mean this to offend anyone. I don't have time to rewrite this to make it politically correct. Bottom line is that my white friend has been traumatized by the mass shootings and it's changing his heart.

p.s. I read several white supremacist websites and they hate Jews so much that they reject the Bible and Yahweh because of the jewish connection. They also hate Jesus too. Those links linked to white supremacy websites that practiced satanism. I am not saying all white supremacists are that way, but there so many websites like that that just pop up when scanning this topic.

Tai, you might find this article concerning atheism interesting -

Atheism, Communism, and Gun Control: The History of Governments That Slaughter Their Own Citizens

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"Throughout history the facts can not be disputed, when governments combine atheism and the restriction of firearms amongst the citizens, the results have always been massacre of citizens at levels so astonishing that only the most profoundly ignorant minds ever try to reason their way around it.

Atheism is one thing, bans on firearms are quite another thing, but when atheism is a government's meme, firearm bans and massacres of citizens always follow. The notion that humanity is no more than a glorified beast is a devaluation of life already, so there is no need to ever wonder why it is that an atheist government would soon deny it's citizens their natural born rights to self defense, even less cause to wonder why an atheist government would murder tens of millions of it's citizens that it deems undesirable.

Any atheist can choose to be offended by facts, but the facts remain.

Atheist governments + gun bans = slaughter of the governed."

(Article describes governments - despots - who confiscated guns and killed millions of their citizens)

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In this thread right here, I addressed Tai's statement she posted yesterday -

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tai

the news of the year for crime in America 2017-2018 is not about blacks raping whites, it's about white men committing unprecedented mass shootings and killings, and many of them were/are into white supremacy.

This false narrative was already addressed three months ago in this same thread when we were talking about Mass Shootings. In this thread here, Tai had said the same rhetoric - that most mass shootings were committed by whites, and I had corrected that falsehood here -

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In other words -

No, white men are not committing unprecidented mass shootings any more than Blacks, Asians, native americans, Hispanic, Latinos.

Please read this Article that I posted three months ago -

Are Mass Shootings a White Man's Problem

[theconversation.com]

"In the terrible aftermath of the Las Vegas massacre people have been urgently trying to explain it. Some have put race at the centre of their explanations. Mass shootings, they argue, reveal something sinister in the heart of whiteness.

A Newsweek headline asserted

White men have committed more mass shootings than any other group.

At CNN a commentator opined that “America has silently accepted the rage of white men” and diagnosed mass shootings as “a white man’s problem”. Elle magazine told us “white men’s violence is the violence we’ve normalized” and that “white men’s rage … is burning down the world”.

There is no shortage of violence committed by white men. Their violent behaviour is sometimes viewed differently from that committed by other groups. But is it true there is a link between whiteness and mass shootings?

Mother Jones magazine has collated a database of American mass shootings that extends from 1982 to now. It contains a grievous record of 91 crimes where a shooter killed at least four victims. The race of the shooter was coded as unknown or unclear in three cases. Of the 88 remaining shootings, 51 (58%) were committed by whites.

Sure enough, the statistically typical mass shooter is a white man. But is that evidence for a meaningful link between race and this form of violence? Not if we remember that whites are statistically typical Americans.

According to the 2016 US census, 61.3% of Americans were “white alone, not Hispanic or Latino”. The proportion of white mass shooters is therefore almost exactly what we would expect it to be if whites and non-whites committed mass shootings at the same rate. Indeed it is (trivially) lower.

This graph plots the proportion of the 88 mass shooters in census-based racial groups against each group’s proportion in the US population. The dotted line represents equality between the two proportions. Groups falling above or below the line have committed mass shootings above or below the rate expected given their representation in the population. Generally speaking, groups defined by race have committed these outrages at approximately the same rate, given their relative size.


US mass shootings by race.



Perhaps the surprising fact that white mass shooters are not proportionally over- represented is due to the long period covered by the Mother Jones database. Are more recent shootings whiter? The answer is no: of the 27 shootings in the past five years where the murderer’s race is recorded, 10 (37%) were committed by white men.

This is not to say mass shootings committed by white men might not be distinctive in some respects. Nor does it preclude a racial double standard in how their atrocities are reported or perceived compared to those of others. But it does indicate that mass shootings themselves are not an inherently white problem."

Just read this --

"Of course more mass shooters are white. White or caucasians make up some 77% of the population. 10% less if we deduct hispanic’s who identify as white.

Of 324,000,000 people 250,000,000 (approximation) are white.

Between 1982 and 2016 48 “mass shootings” were committed by approximately 75% of the population. So out of 250,000,000 people 48 instances of mass shootings happened.

During the same period 14 mass shooters were black, approximately 14% of the population. So out of 45,360,000 people mass shootings happened 14 times. That’s a higher instance of a race producing a mass shooter than the so called “white” race.

In essence, to say that white people are “more commonly mass shooters in america”, is akin to saying that dogs bark. It’s a logical fallacy."

Please also read this post where I give more explanation -

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

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So -

Whites commit more mass shootings in absolute numbers, but in proportion to the population, whites commit less mass shootings than blacks.

"Whites actually do fewer mass shootings than the expected amount of shooting, based on their proportion of the population. While it's still the highest in absolute number, that is moderated by the fact that whites make up such a huge proportion of the US Population."

I explained this plenty three months ago in this same thread -

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

- so to continue posting that same False Narrative is a Spin and a Twist to perpetuate the Lib Narrative.

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To say whites commit more mass shootings is a LOGICAL FALLACY, meaning it's False.

Logical Fallacy: a concept within argumentation that commonly leads to an error in reasoning due to the deceptive nature of its presentation.

Regarding Tai's statement concerning "White Men committing unprecedented 'killings'" ---

unprecedented means -
never done or known before.

-- again Black Men commit more 'killings' than White Men.

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Tai

P.S. the news of the year for crime in America 2017-2018 is not about blacks raping whites, it's about white men committing unprecedented mass shootings and killings, and many of them were/are into white supremacy.

More 'Inconvenient' "FACTS" on just plain Homicides -

[en.wikipedia.org]

Homicide

According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of African Americans victims were killed by African Americans.[48][49][50]

In 2013, number and percentage of murder arrests by race were:

Black or African Americans 4,379 = 51.3%
White Americans (non-Hispanic Americans) 2,861 = 33.5%
Hispanic Americans 1,096 = 12.8%
American Indians or Alaska Natives 98 = 1.14%
Asian Americans 101 = 1.18%[51][52]

Inversely, the percentage of individuals in each racial demographic arrested for murder in 2013 (with 2016 population estimates) was:

0.0102% of Black or African American population (4,379/42,975,959)
0.0023% of American Indian or Alaska Native population (98/4,200,658)
0.0019% Hispanic American population (1,096/57,516,697)
0.0014% of White American (3,799/198,077,165)
0.001% of Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander population (6/646,255)
0.0005% of Asian American population (101/18,418,268)[51][53]

Youth crime

The "National Youth Gang Survey Analysis" (2011) state that of gang members, 46% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are black, 11.5% are white, and 7% are other race/ethnicity.[54]

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness.[55]

Robbery

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, the black arrest rate for robbery was 8.55 times higher than whites, and blacks were 16 times more likely to be incarcerated for robbery than non-Hispanic whites. Robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than vice versa.[56][57]

Victim surveys

In 1978, Michael Hindelang compared data from the National Crime Victimization Survey (then known as the National Crime Survey, or NCS) to data from the Uniform Crime Reports, both from 1974. He found that NCS data generally agreed with UCR data in regards to the percent of perpetrators of rape, robbery, and assault who were black.[58] For instance, Hindelang's analysis found that both the NCS and UCR estimated that 62% of robbery offenders were black in the United States in 1974.[59]:327 A 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey report which analyzed carjacking over 10 years found that carjacking victims identified 56% of offenders as black, 21% as white, and 16% as Native American or Asian.[60][61][62]

Hispanics

According to a 2009 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2007 Latinos "accounted for 40% of all sentenced federal offenders-more than triple their share (13%) of the total U.S. adult population". This was an increase from 24% in 1991. Between 1991 and 2007, enforcement of federal immigration laws became a growing priority in response to undocumented immigration. By 2007, among Hispanic offenders sentenced in federal courts, 48% were immigration offenses, 37% drug offenses, and 15% for other offenses. One reason for the large increase in immigration offenses is that they exclusively fall under federal jurisdiction.[63]

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So now -

This and all graphs of homicide rates in the last decades all show that 'killings' are less than they were since the 1990s -



And in a long-term down-trend -



So, No, there is no 'white men committing unprecedented killings'....

FBI Statistics for 2015 for Murder -

"Of the murder victims for whom race was known, 53.1 percent were Black or African American, 44.2 percent were White, and 2.8 percent were of other races. Race was unknown for 196 victims."

When the race of the offender was known, 53.3 percent were Black or African American, 44.0 percent were White, and 2.7 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,787 offenders.

So considering Blacks are 13% of the Population, but are committing 36.7% of the Homicides, and Whites are about 65% of the Population and commit 32.2% of the homicides, Blacks are doing much more 'killings' than Whites, Tai.

And we've already discussed that murder rates are trending downward, so yeah ...

Is it possible to deal in FACTS on the board rather than Lib Rhetoric and Ad Hominem Attacks (like calling people who state Facts - and Government Statistics - 'racist') when you don't like THE FACTS?

Or - as I asked someplace -

Is stating FACTS 'racist' in Lib World?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2018 12:00AM by Jennifer.