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The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 19, 2018 10:45PM

As usual, the Libs are up in arms about how 'children' are separated from their parents at the border. This third iteration is on par with the Fake News 'lost children' narrative, the 'ripping babies from their mother's arms' falsehood. Now we have 'children are separated from their parents at the border' outrage, which is full of spin, twisting and lying, as usual.

So here are the facts --

First of all, Obama did the same exact thing - oh, but nobody said a word about the horrific situation when Obama was doing it...

Obama Prosecuted Nearly Half A Million Illegals

[dailycaller.com]

The Obama administration prosecuted approximately half a million adults for illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border between Fiscal year 2010 and Fiscal year 2016, Department of Homeland Security data provided to the Daily Caller reveals.

The prosecutions include both illegal immigrant violators of Title 8 of the U.S. Code 1325 and 1326 used to penalize first time and multiple offenders respectively. The DHS data further shows that the Obama administration referred on average 1 out of 5 adults apprehended at the border for criminal prosecution.

Criminal prosecution of illegal immigrants has become a hot button issue in the U.S. with the Trump administration deciding it will prosecute 100% of the people who cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally. Current U.S. law dictates that criminal prosecution of adults will result in the separation of family units if they illegally cross together.

The Office of Refugee Resettlement’s public numbers however show that nearly 200,000 children were referred by the DHS between fiscal year 2012 to fiscal year 2016. These children either were separated by their families or they were unaccompanied minors.

DHS told TheDC it does not keep specific data from this period on the number of children separated from their families as a result of the Obama administration’s policy, but the data bolsters a claim made by DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen Monday. Nielsen insisted to reporters at the White House that both the Obama and Bush administrations separated families at the border.

The Trump administration has defended the policy, noting that the only other option they have is to schedule an immigration court date and release the entire family unit into the interior. The practice, known as “catch and release,” has resulted in the release of nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants from Central America into the U.S. interior. U.S. authorities do not actively track illegals once they have been released.

Family separation in particular has been heavily scrutinized by the U.S. press in recent days with particular focus on the detention conditions of children. Trump himself however is defiant towards the criticism demanding that Democratic lawmakers work with him to pass a legislative package that contains his administration’s broader immigration priorities in exchange for an end to the practice.

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Look at these photos which were posted during Obama's reign - not a word out of Libs then on the treatment of illegals, separation of children, 'lost children' etc., etc., etc.

[dailycaller.com]


[twitter.com]

Some economic migrants are using children as chits

The latest furor over Trump immigration policy involves the separation of children from parents at the border.

The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

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Here's a video of what it looks like - not bad for people who are in jail for breaking the law - what would it look like in a Mexican facility....

[mobile.twitter.com]

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Question - What would it be like if an American illegally sneaked across the border into Mexico? What would happen to them? What would the prison look like and be like????

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 19, 2018 11:01PM

Now for the actual FACTS -

Separating Families At The Border: The Hysteria Overlooks Some Key Facts

[www.investors.com]

Illegal Immigration: The latest outrage by the Trump administration is its policy of "ripping" children away from parents who've crossed the border illegally. As with so many other things involving Trump, there's plenty of emotion but precious little in the way of facts.

The furor reached critical mass after the Department of Homeland Security said on Friday that 1,995 children had been separated from their illegal border crossing parents from mid-April through May. That number included, DHS said, cases where the adults were arrested for illegal entry, immigration violations, or possible criminal conduct.

The practice has generated a rising storm of protests, including from Republicans, ever since Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the administration's "zero tolerance" for illegal border crossers. Laura Bush took to the Washington Post's op-ed page to decry it as "cruel" and "immoral." Trump supporter Franklin Graham called it "disgraceful."

Trump himself says he doesn't want to see families separated while the legal process works its way out, and then went on to blame Democrats for the problem.

So what's going on here?

First, it's important to note that many of the "separations" don't last long at all.

As Rich Lowry explains in a detailed article in National Review, "when a migrant is prosecuted for illegal entry, he or she is taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals," in which case, as when other adults are incarcerated in the U.S., they are separated from their children.

Lowry notes that "The criminal proceedings are exceptionally short, assuming there is no aggravating factor such as a prior illegal entry or another crime. Migrants generally plead guilty, and then are sentenced to time served, typically all in the same day."

The Los Angeles Times reports that Rio Grande Valley border agents prosecuted 568 adults and separated 1,174 children since the administration announced its "zero tolerance" policy in early April. However, it only took a matter of hours to reunite more than a third of these children with their parents.

That hardly constitutes an inhumane policy of "ripping" children away from their parents.

Most of the concern about family separations centers on the administration's handling of asylum seekers who've crossed the border illegally.

In the past, the practice has been to simply detain these families for a short time in an ICE facility. But rather than return for their asylum hearing, many just disappeared into the country.

Under the "zero tolerance" policy, Trump has tried to put an end to this "catch and release" policy, by arresting every adult caught illegally crossing the border.

If parents choose to seek asylum, they can end up separated from their children for months while the asylum process plays out.

Asylum Claims

The administration is right to point out, however, that there is a legal process for seeking asylum that won't involve facing such a choice — just show up at a port of entry to make the asylum claim.

"As I have said many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and illegally cross between ports of entry," Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen tweeted over the weekend.

Critics complain that the legal process just takes too long, as a way to justify illegal border crossings. But illegal border crossers are not only jumping the line. Under the old system they could vastly increase their chances of staying in the country — with or without gaining asylum status.

Is it wrong for Trump to try to close this unfair and potentially dangerous loophole?

Another fact conveniently overlooked amid all the hysteria is that just because a group claims to be a family, doesn't mean it's true. The Department of Homeland Security says that from October 2017 to February 2018 it saw "a 315% increase in the number of cases with minors fraudulently posing as 'family units' to gain entry."

PLEASE READ MY POST HERE EXPLAINING THE VARIOUS REASONS PARENTS AND 'CHILDREN' HAVE TO BE SEPARATED - BECAUSE OF FRAUD - THEY ARE NOT REALLY A FAMILY, THEY ARE NOT REALLY PARENTS AND CHILDREN, JUST A SCAM.

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

But, hey - don't let FACTS get in the way of the Lib Rhetoric

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Presumably that's because they think posing as a family will improve their chances of avoiding deportation. Whatever the reason, those children's separation from their parents occurred long before the border patrol showed up.

What To Do?

To be sure, the administration's bungling response to the outcry over its policies has made it harder to understand, much less defend, what's going on.

But those protesting family separations should at least acknowledge that there are reforms available that don't involve returning to the days of "catch and release," while still keeping families together — which is the ideal solution — such as letting children stay in detention centers for more than 20 days, and boosting funds for family shelters at the border.

Getting such reforms done in today's massively polarized environment, however, is unlikely. The question is, who's to blame for that?

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 19, 2018 11:08PM

Again, please also read this post of mine a while ago when we were talking about the same FAKE NEWS of the Libs -

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

One reason for the separation is that the 'families' are not really 'families' they are lying and posing as families to get through to further their criminal careers here in America -

They are drug traffickers, sex traffickers, horrible gangs, criminals, killers, rapists, etc. Just what we don't want. They kidnap and exploit 'children' or the children are used as mules to get the adults across. Whatever it is, they need to be separated and investigated and put in detention.

Just common sense, folks...

Unless you want all criminals and gangs living in the US...which the libs seem to want to if they want open borders and no separation, no questioning, no nothing... just come one, come all...

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:24AM

Republicans chose to be the party that welcomes in pedophilia. Americans have the power to make them pay for it.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: June 20, 2018 03:08AM

Are the Methodists conservative or liberal?

[m.huffpost.com]

Methodists Bring Church Charges Against Jeff Sessions For Border Policy

Clergy and laity are demanding accountability from Jeff Sessions, a longtime Methodist.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 20, 2018 04:19AM

Tai The United Methodists are generally considered liberal but there are individual congregations who are more conservative.

One thing for sure there is no defending whats going on at our border.
Anyone who can try to Justify that is very sick, Its real clear whats going down.
Racism is what its about Jennifer and the Klan

These ass's that scream illegals Disgusting.

The only legal Americans are on reservations!

Just because they did not have a system im place to deport does not make one legal.

The republicans stepped in deep Chit and will not be able to undo this.

The world reaction is like a growing prarrie Fire.

Jennifer when Yellowstone blows only two ways to go Canada or Mexico they now may tell you are the illegal go back and burn in hell.

People fleeing horror in some South American countrys reach our border only to have more trama because of the racist.have their kids riped from their arms.

How low will some people go? We are close to the bottom SHAME


Im so ashamed of people like Jennifer and David Duke, Amy Mekelburg where most of jennifers info comes from and this ORANGE CULT.
Cults never have a good ending Orange KOOLAID TRUMP TOWN drink up



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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 20, 2018 04:33AM

jennifer why dont you just say it? Here is what you are saying I will say it for your racist ass

DARE TO SEEK ASYLUM AT THE BORDER AND WE WILL TAKE YOUR CHILD.


SHAME ON YOU AND ANYONE ELSE TRYING TO DEFEND THIS HORROR!

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 20, 2018 04:39AM

"The federal government has no plan for reuniting the children with their families," NO PLAN YOU HEAR? "It is deliberately inflicting trauma on children to punish their parents."

SHAME

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: June 20, 2018 08:11PM

Wow, what a guy. You’re so right, Ivanka. Serious question...how does it feel to know your family’s name will be a blemish on world history forevermore? NO world leader, no matter what they succeed in, gets to sidestep human rights violations, esp involving kids. Enjoy that...

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 20, 2018 09:21PM

Tai, organized Christian Religion is crawling with libs now, especially the Catholics, who want to make it okay to kill babies in their mother's womb.

For example, Christian churches hold workshops on "White Privilege" and now "Christian Privilege", where self-hating white people do their virtue signaling in person.

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Catholics for Choice

[www.catholicsforchoice.org]

The Catholic Case for Abortion Rights

[time.com]

Catholics are just as likely to get an abortion as other U.S. women.

[www.americamagazine.org]

[ingoodfaith.us]

“It is because of my Catholic faith, not in spite of it, that I support women who make conscience-based decisions to have an abortion.”
Public funding for abortion is a Catholic social justice value.
Equal access to comprehensive healthcare, including reproductive health services, is a moral imperative.

Poll: 50 percent of all Catholics support abortion in ‘all or most cases’

[www.lifesitenews.com]



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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 20, 2018 10:03PM

Back to the Border Crisis - The Inconvenient Truth

"FACTS" by Ben Shapiro - a great Conservative. Shapiro Corrects the Lying Libs.

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The Media Are Lying About Trump Separating Illegal Immigrant Families. Here’s The Truth.

[www.dailywire.com]

Over the weekend, the media went insane over the supposed Trump administration policy of separating illegal immigrant parents from their children. According to the media, Trump could with one quick fix simply prevent the separation of children from their parents; according to the media, all Trump has to do is wave his magic wand, and all will be well.

This is a lie.

More specifically, it’s several lies.


1. Trump Created Separation Of Children From Illegal Immigrant Parents.

This is plainly false. In 1997, the federal government made an agreement in a case called Flores not to keep unaccompanied illegal immigrant children in custody beyond 20 days. The settlement said nothing about accompanied illegal immigrant children – children who crossed the border with their parents. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled that accompanied children also could not be held in custody under the terms of the settlement. This meant that the government either had to release whole families, or that the government had to separate parents from children.

2. Immigrants Seeking Asylum Are Being Punished For Seeking Asylum.

This is plainly untrue as well. Immigrants who come to points of entry to seek asylum aren’t actually illegally in the country – they’re not arrested. They’re processed through ICE, and their children stay with them. If, however, illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, the Trump administration now treats them as criminals. If they choose deportation, they aren’t separated from their kids; if they choose to apply for asylum, they stay in the country longer than 20 days, and their kids have to be removed by operation of law.


3. The Trump Facilities Are Awful Thanks To Trump.

They may be awful, but they were just as awful under President Obama. These are pictures from Brandon Darby of Breitbart circa 2014:

(Look at the Link above to see the photos of Obama's 2014 "Border Crisis" which got absolutely no press and no Libs Outrage.)

The big mistake made by the Trump administration here came courtesy of Stephen Miller and John Kelly, both of whom reportedly stated that the administration was separating kids from parents as a sort of deterrent. That’s idiotic. The deterrent is arrest and deportation, not separating children from parents. That’s why the House is attempting to pass some sort of fix here to keep kids with their parents.

But with that said, the media coverage of this issue has been patently irresponsible. Trump isn’t forcing children away from parents. He’s enforcing the law on the books. The legislature can fix that law at any time. The facilities he’s using are the same facilities Obama used. Pretending that this is Japanese internment (as Laura Bush suggested) or the Holocaust (as General Michael Hayden suggested) is ridiculous. This policy ought to be fixed. But lying about it isn’t designed to fix it. It’s designed to prevent a fix by allowing Democrats to play political football with children, believing they’re winning a victory by holding Trump’s feet to the fire with pictures of crying children.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 20, 2018 10:15PM

So just a small point - before Obama's reign, the Illegal Aliens were mostly young males. But Obama implemented the "Catch and Release" Program for Illegals, whereby when families were caught at the border, they were released into America, a home run. So then suddenly 'families' were surging across the border. (And of course, most of them were not 'families', they were adults with kidnapped children, children matched up with adults by 'coyotes' to look like families, child sex trafficking, etc., as I've posted a lot so far, just above and a month or two ago - all Illegal Alien fraud. So anyway, since Obama let everybody who looked like a family into America, we get this big surge in 2014, and that's when you get the photos that the Libs are passing off as during Trump's tenure. Obama's holding cells or whatever they're called were worse than Trump's - just compare photos of both.

2014 Illegal Immigrant Surge

The treatment of illegal-immigrant children and families apprehended by U.S. border authorities has fueled the latest round of debate over the nation’s immigration policies and enforcement priorities. Here’s a look at conditions at immigration facilities in Texas and Arizona during a surge of illegal border crossings that took place during the Obama administration in 2014, a surge that included tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors.


Lib Hypocrisy, as usual. Obama was as bad or worse than Trump, but not a word about that in 2014 by the Lib Media and Libs.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 20, 2018 11:00PM

Just look at these accommodations! Look at the Video! Those Libs won't post any photos - just those 'tents', which BTW are Air-Conditioned! And, BTW, I read that under Obama children got one hour of education a day, but under Trump they get 6 hours! Lib Media isn't telling you this stuff!

PHOTOS: Inside Shelter for Illegal Alien Children Separated from Parents

[www.breitbart.com]

The Department of Health and Human Services hosted Breitbart News and other media on a tour of a facility in El Cajon, California, on Friday where migrant children are being sheltered after being separated from their parents.

The children are separated from their parents — or, to be precise, from the adults accompanying them, who may or may not be their parents — when their parents cross the southern U.S. border illegally and are caught and detained.

Previously, under the “catch-and-release” policy, the adults would be released. Under the “zero tolerance” policy of the Trump administration, the adults are being detained and prosecuted. Children cannot be incarcerated with them.

However, families that arrive together at legal ports of entry and apply for asylum status are generally not split up and are permitted to stay in the U.S. pending the adjudication of their applications (which can take several years).

Democrats and the mainstream media have accused the administration of separating the children of “immigrants” from their parents and imprisoning them in “cages.” On Thursday, CNN analyst and Playboy reporter Brian Karem shouted at White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “These people have nothing. They come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages.” None of the reporters in the briefing room corrected him.

The facility at El Cajon, however, is not a “cage.” It is a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.

It is run by a nonprofit organization called Southwest Key as part of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) Program, run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) in the Administration for Children and Familes (ACF).

The facility is located on a main street in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. It has 65 beds, occupied by boys ages 6 to 17. The rooms are spare, with three to four beds in each; the boys are responsible for cleaning the rooms and making their own beds. There is an outdoor recreation area with picnic tables and a small soccer pitch.

There is a classroom area, and English lessons. The goal is “reunification”: letting each child depart with a legal guardian.

Some 90% of the children at the shelter arrived at the border without adults; the other 10% were separated from the adults accompanying them. Once the children arrive — usually brought by U.S. Border Patrol agents — they are greeted in the “intake” office, where they receive any urgent medical care, are assigned a case worker, and are given food, a shower, and new clothing. They are also given toiletries and lessons in hygiene — literally how to flush a toilet, brush their teeth, and operate the shower, which some of the children may have never seen in their lives.

They have limited access to telephones to call relatives, both in the U.S. and abroad. They receive therapy, both as individuals and in group sessions. They enjoy field trips to local museums, parks, and the zoo, where they can explore the city beyond the shelter. And they also have social activities, including a recent “prom” for which they dressed up.

"Cages,” these are not. What is immediately striking about the facility is the enthusiasm and care of the staff who work there. One administrator greeted the journalists on the tour: “Welcome to our home.” The children at the facility seemed genuinely happy, despite their unfortunate circumstances and the trauma of their long journey.

The real scandal is how the media have portrayed the shelters. When MSNBC’s Jacob Soboroff toured a similar facility this week in Brownsville, Texas, for example, he referred to the children there as being “incarcerated,” which is only true in the same sense that hospital patients, too, are not permitted to leave, for their safety. (One official who had seen Soboroff’s televised report accused him of “flat-out lying” about the facility — such as, for example, reporting on a mural of Donald Trump without noting 19 other presidents were similarly depicted.)

Southwest Key has operated its facilities — 27 in total, across California, Arizona, and Texas — since 1997, when the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Flores v. Reno that unaccompanied illegal alien minors could not be held in detention facilities. This is not a new problem, even though it took Trump to make the media realize it existed.

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When I get a chance, I'll post the 2014 photos of the immigrant children under Obama.





A picture is worth a thousand words. Lying Libs - Children are not in 'Cages'!



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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 20, 2018 11:11PM

Child Border Crossers Have Higher Standard of Living than 13M Impoverished American Children

[www.breitbart.com]

Migrant children who cross into the United States either alone or with adults have a higher standard of living once they are put into federal care than the more than 13 million American children who are living in poverty across the country.

In Fiscal Year 2017, the federal government referred nearly 41,000 unaccompanied minor border crossers to the Unaccompanied Alien Children program which is facilitated by the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

Data provided to Breitbart News reveals that each unaccompanied minor costs the federal government about $34,660 annually. This is a higher standard of living per child than the roughly 13 million American children who continue to live below the U.S. poverty line.

In 2016, there were about 13.2 million American children under the age of 18 living in poverty. These are U.S. children, for example, whose parents or guardians –in a household of four — earn less than $24,500 a year.

This annual income for an impoverished American family is $10,000 less than the more than $34,500 in federal funds which are spent on each unaccompanied minor border crosser.

Overall, about $1.4 billion is spent on unaccompanied minor border crossers every year, which American taxpayers foot the bill for, as Breitbart News reported.

Most recently, Breitbart News‘s Senior Editor-at-Large Joel Pollak revealed the comfortable living conditions that unaccompanied minor border crossers are placed into by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Those comfortable living conditions include lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, among other services.

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Re: The Inconvenient Truth (Facts) on the Border Situation
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 21, 2018 10:50PM

(Again - parents and children are separated because not all 'parents' are the 'children's legitimate parents)

President Trump signed an executive order this week allowing adults who illegally enter the United States with children, claiming to be family units, to be detained together in federal facilities.

The question of a valid parental-child relationship is at the center of how the Department of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services handle detainment. Because of fraudulent documentation, profits to smugglers, and false asylum claims, there is essentially no way to prove or verify adults traveling with children are indeed their parents.

In April 2016, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley warned about catch-and-release policies enabling the smuggling industry. In the past, any non-Mexican or Canadian individual illegally crossing the border with a child was considered a family unit, processed and released into the interior. Current zero-tolerance policies require they be detained until prosecution.

“A recent Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report confirmed that human smuggling rings are exploiting children in order to prevent the detention of the undocumented immigrants they’re smuggling into the United States. They are pairing children with unrelated adults, knowing adults who enter the United States with children won’t be detained,” he said.

“At least one Honduran interviewed by DHS officials reported that children are kidnapped or adopted then smuggled with their unrelated adult “family member” to the United States. This smuggling practice has bolstered an underground market for counterfeit birth certificates according to the report, which was prepared by the DHS Human Smuggling Cell. Once in the U.S., these children are vulnerable to labor or sex trafficking,” he continued.

Fast-forward to 2018 and this is still the case.

“If there's no documentation to confirm the claimed relationship between an adult and a child, we [separate] if the parent is a national security, public or safety risk, including when there are criminal charges at issue and it may not be appropriate to maintain the family in detention together,” DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said at the White House Monday.

“We also separate a parent and child if the adult is suspected of human trafficking. There have been cases where minors have been used and trafficked by unrelated adults in an effort to avoid detention,” she continued. “And I'd stop here to say, in the last five months, we have a 314 percent increase in adults and children arriving at the border, fraudulently claiming to be a family unit. This is, obviously, of concern.”

Current and former Border Patrol and ICE agents who have worked extensively on human trafficking cases continue to have these concerns. Worse, they’re alarmed the majority of current media coverage is downplaying the smuggling angle.

"You can never really verify who the parents really are," former Border Patrol and Customs Special Agent Jason Piccolo said during an interview with Townhall. "Especially in light of adult males showing up with kids."

In 2015, Piccolo blew the whistle on the Obama administration releasing unaccompanied minors to unvetted, criminal sponsors. During that time, he served as the sole ICE and Enforcement and Removal Operations representative to the White House Security Council’s DHS Human Smuggling Cell. It was his job to disrupt or dismantle human smuggling organizations domestically and internationally.

"Without doing some kind of in-depth interview or interrogation or some kind of biometrics [DNA] there's no way you can tell if the kids are actually family," he said.

Piccolo explained how adults and children are given fake documents, including birth certificates to “prove” they are “related."

“They're given fake documents in order to get through Mexico and a lot of times they'll give those fake documents back," he said.

Smugglers are hired for as much as $20,000 per person and pair unrelated adults to unrelated children. The entire purpose is to claim asylum, valid or not, with the understanding that “family units” are apprehended and then released to the interior of the United States. Since 2008, asylum claims have ballooned by 1,700 percent according to DHS data.

Under the Obama administration, 80-90 percent of individuals making asylum claims with children were released after being processed and given a court date. Inevitably, they started living in the U.S. illegally for years to come. This is the policy the Trump administration is trying to change.

"When they're presenting themselves they'd get an asylum interview and they'd get released,” Piccolo said. "It was widely known that the human smuggling cell knew that aliens coming in from South America stated that they were told if they were a family unit they would be released at the border.”

Piccolo suggests a joint effort with USCIS, DHS and FBI is necessary for vetting and that a joint task force must be developed to do interviews and interrogations of adults traveling with children.

“If you really want to fix this problem you have to really vet these adults,” he said.

Currently, DHS and HHS have detained approximately 2,000 minors separately from adults.

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Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 21, 2018 11:34PM

13 FACTS the Media ‘Pros’ Don’t Want You to Know About ‘Family Border Separation’

[www.breitbart.com]

The fire hose of fake news from the establishment media this week on the issue of illegal immigrant families separated at the border is designed to mislead the American people — and to distract from Trump’s recent successes.
Here are the facts — 13 truths the media do not want you to know about President Trump’s legal, humane, and moral handling of adults and children who enter our country illegally.

Trump Is Only Enforcing the Law
The establishment media’s manufactured narrative about the necessary and moral separation of illegal alien parents from their children is designed with the specific purpose of spreading the fake news that, only as a means to be cruel, President Trump is somehow making all of this up as he goes along.

In truth, Trump is only complying with and enforcing the law, which is his constitutional duty and responsibility.

When the media claim Trump has a “choice,” what they mean is he has a choice to ignore the law as Obama did when he illegally released untold numbers of illegals into America.

Trump’s “zero tolerance policy” is merely his administration treating all lawbreakers as lawbreakers, because the only other option is to let them loose into America with nothing but a court summons.

Trump’s Only Choice Is to Separate Illegal Alien Families

When an illegal alien crosses the border into the U.S., he is a lawbreaker, and, like any lawbreaker (including American citizens), he is put into the criminal justice system.

This is the law.

Obviously, when an illegal alien is in custody, he is housed in an adult detention center. For obvious reasons, it would be illegal for Trump to “reunite” this family by allowing children to live in adult detention centers.

Keep in mind that when we are this early in the process, we do not even know if this is a real family unit. It is not uncommon for illegal aliens (including criminals) to pretend the children they are traveling with are their own. They do so in the hope this special family status will result in them being released (this madness is known as “catch and release”) into America with nothing more than a court date — a date many never show for, most especially those with criminal intent.

And so, while the illegal adult is held in an adult detention center, the migrant child is cared for in shelters run by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Generally, the adult illegal is processed quickly, sentenced to time served, and the family is quickly reunited during the deportation process.

In other words, in order to keep the family unit together, we can either put children in adult detention centers (unthinkable), put adults in child detention centers (unthinkable), or hold no one, which means “catch and release,” which means letting even more illegal immigrants loose to live in our country illegally.

The only moral and legal option here is to temporarily separate families while the criminal justice system runs its course.

The Left Wants Illegal Aliens to Enjoy Privileges Denied to American Citizens

If an American citizen breaks the law and is funneled into the justice system, he is separated from his family and children. This American citizen is not allowed to keep his family with him in a detention center.

Once again, our media want illegal aliens to enjoy special rights and privileges American citizens do not enjoy.

One more point…

These migrants are guilty of walking minor children through miles and miles of desert with the intent of committing a crime (crossing a border illegally).

If you or I walked a child through miles and miles of desert with the intent of committing a crime, child protective services would take our children away (and should).


Asylum Seekers Not Breaking the Law are Not Being Separated

If you cross the border illegally and claim asylum, you are still a lawbreaker. Regardless of your intent, crossing the border illegally automatically puts you in the criminal justice system, where you will obviously be separated from family.

These asylum seekers are choosing to break the law, are choosing to be separated from family.


Asylum seekers who respect our laws, by turning themselves in at legal points of entry, are not being separated. Over-crowding due to the abuse of this policy might eventually make this impossible, but it is up to Congress to allocate more funds.

Trump Is Correct About the Loophole

In 1997, a consent decree called the Flores Settlement made it illegal for America to hold migrant children for longer than 20 days. Meaning, in order to keep the family together after 20 days of detention, we can either reunite the family by letting them loose to live illegally in America, or we can keep the parent in detention and place the child in a foster home or with a relative who lives in America.

Trump is wisely choosing to do the latter (for a number of moral reasons I will explain later).

A case involving an illegal border crosser not seeking asylum is usually adjudicated before the 20 days are up, which means the family unit is reunited during deportation and no foster care is needed. This, obviously, is the best case scenario.

Those who cross the border illegally and then claim asylum status (an important distinction from asylum seekers who obey the law) are another story, because the asylum process almost always exceeds the 20 days, and this is the law the Trump administration wants changed.

By speeding up the asylum process, the family unit can be reunited faster, either in the deportation process (if asylum is not granted — and this process is frequently abused) or in the resettlement process (if asylum is granted).

Another option is to end the 20-day limit so foster care does not become necessary. Parent and child can remain in the detention centers until the asylum process is settled.

“Reuniting” Families Would Be a Disaster for Countless Children

Again, the only way to “keep a family together” is to allow illegals to pour into our country.

This policy would be a total disaster, especially for the children.

If word gets out that America automatically allows illegal border crossers with small children loose into America just because they have minor children, this would only further incentivize those who engage in the child abuse of dragging children along on the unbelievably dangerous trek across the border — or, even worse, both exploiting them for catch-and-release and then trafficking them after making it into the country.

No one who truly cares about these children wants to further incentivize that kind of abuse.

Obama and Democrats Incentivized This ‘Family Separation’

Until Obama came along, illegal border crossings primarily involved young, single men. Obama incentivized the idea of dragging minor children along on this dangerous journey (where many children are sexually assaulted) through his policy of “catch and release.”

Once word got out that illegals with small children would be let loose into America, the number of children crossing the border exploded.

Again, the last thing decent people want is for the American government to further incentivize the cruel act of bringing small children along on this brutal trip across the border, which is exactly what Trump is hoping to stop with his zero tolerance policy.

Barack Obama Separated Illegal Alien Families, Media Said Nothing

Under Obama, when illegal border crossers were put into the criminal justice system, families were indeed separated. Obama, of course, rarely prosecuted, even though the law calls for it.

Neither Democrats nor the media cared about family separation then, which proves this manufactured and coordinated uproar is only about politics.


Political journalism needs a bit of housecleaning on this child border crisis. I'll start. It was going on during the Obama years in large numbers. I never wrote about it. Was completely unaware, in large part because few reporters were interested enough to create critical mass.

To my colleagues out there chasing Pulitzers over this: Why didn't today's critical mass form when we were looking at unaccompanied minors by the tens of thousands in 2014. Why didn't those kids matter as much as these? Few of us chased those stories down with any vigor.

The only reason the media suddenly came to care about family separation is as a means to fabricate a controversy, as a tactic to distract voters from three legitimate news stories from last week that benefit Trump: 1) our economy is booming, 2) Trump had a successful summit with North Korea, and 3) the Inspector General report exposed James Comey’s FBI as a swamp of corruption out to exonerate Hillary Clinton and frame Trump.

IMPORTANT: The ONLY Way to Unite Families Is to Release Them into America

Obviously, we cannot have children living in adult detention centers. Obviously, we cannot have adults living in child detention centers. Therefore, the only way to “reunite” these families is to release these illegals into our country.

The media will not tell you this because the media do not want you to know that flooding America with non-citizens is their true agenda. The rich and powerful love to exploit and abuse these individuals, as they can leverage their immigration status for illegally low wages, and politicians are salivating at the chance to bestow voting rights on them — and thus entrench their power.

But when you hear the media call for these families to be reunited, remember that is coded language that means only one thing: releasing illegal aliens into our country with nothing more than a court summons.

Incentivizing the Act of Bringing Minor Children Across the Border Is Evil

The media do not want to inform Americans of one crucial fact: the dangers inherent in crossing the border from Mexico into America, most especially the dangers faced by minor children. Sadly, these dangers too often involve sexual abuse.

Decent people who truly care about these children, like President Trump, want to do everything in their power to end this abuse — either by building a wall, or through this zero tolerance policy that will hopefully curb this abusive practice.

Evil people want these children dragged across the border, want this abuse incentivized by “keeping the family unit together,” because flooding the country with future indebted voters is more important to them than the safety and well-being of small children.

Those Who Come to America Legally Face ‘Family Separation’

Many people who come to America legally from other countries are separated from family. A big part of America’s LEGAL immigration policy involves family separation when one or two family members come over before the rest are legally or financially able.

And so, once again, we have the media and Democrats demanding special treatment for illegal immigrants that legal immigrants do not enjoy. Once again we are incentivizing lawbreaking and treating the line-jumpers better than those who follow the rules.

“Family Reunification” Is an Invitation to Human Traffickers
Because of “catch and release,” because of this dumb and destructive loophole carved out for families, the number of illegal aliens using children to enter the U.S. increased by 315 percent between October 2017 and February 2018.


Trump understands what is happening and this is why he has moved to a zero tolerance policy.

Anything other than zero tolerance only serves as an incentive for human traffickers and other criminals to use these children as their free pass into America.

Incentivizing such a thing is monstrous:

"If there's any suspicion that they're not really truly related to those people, then they will be separated for their own safety," a chief border agent said of kids who are often recycled by smugglers to get adults into the United States.

Media Do Not Give a @#$%& About American Families Separated by Criminal Illegal Aliens

Illegal alien families are choosing to be separated by voluntarily engaging in lawbreaking. These illegal alien families, if they so choose, can stay together, simply by obeying the law.

This is not hard.

Those who do not have a choice in family separation are the legions of American families permanently separated from family members when that family member is killed at the hands of an illegal alien.

As Steve Bannon accurately pointed out over the weekend, “I don’t see the mainstream media and the liberal left embracing the Angel Moms, those people who were permanently separated from their children because of illegal aliens who came over here and committed crimes and killed people. You’re being very selective.”

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