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SNOPES, Lib Fact-Checker for Facebook and Google, Botches Nathan Phillips Fact Check
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: January 25, 2019 11:14PM

LIARS

* Snopes refused to correct an inaccurate fact-check calling it “unproven” that American Indian activist Nathan Phillips falsely claimed to be a Vietnam veteran.

* It’s a proven fact that Phillips falsely claimed to be a Vietnam veteran.

* Both Facebook and Google give Snopes preferential treatment on their platforms.


[dailycaller.com]

Snopes, a left-leaning fact-checking website given preferential treatment by both Facebook and Google, flubbed its fact-check of American Indian activist Nathan Phillips’ false claim of being a Vietnam veteran.

Phillips shot to national attention after a viral confrontation between him and a group of high school boys from Covington Catholic high school. Phillips, with the help of credulous national media outlets, said the boys mobbed and racially harassed him as he tried to leave the Indigenous People’s March. Video evidence debunked Phillips’s account.

In addition to botching the details of the confrontation, media outlets also inaccurately reported that Phillips is a Vietnam veteran.

Phillips described himself in interviews as a “Vietnam-times veteran” and groups affiliated with him told The New York Times that he fought in Vietnam. Phillips explicitly claimed in a 2018 Facebook video that he was a Vietnam veteran who served “in theater.”

Military records show that Phillips never deployed to Vietnam, though his military service did include a long stint as a refrigerator technician.

Snopes’s fact-check incorrectly labeled it “unproven” that Phillips had falsely claimed to be a Vietnam veteran. Snopes declined to change its misleading ruling despite definitive video evidence of Phillips doing exactly that.

Both Facebook and Google give Snopes preferential treatment on their platforms, though Snopes has struggled with accuracy in the past

Google placed Snopes’s misleading fact-check at the top of their search results about Phillips’s Vietnam claims.

Facebook also placed Snopes’ inaccurate fact-check at the top of search results about Phillips’s non-existent Vietnam deployment. A blue “Fact-Checker” badge accompanies the post, lending Facebook’s credibility to the inaccurate fact-check.

An emailed statement from Snopes said that Phillips didn’t explicitly say in recent interviews that he was a Vietnam veteran and used more nuanced language like “Vietnam-times veteran.”

In an update, Snopes questioned whether Phillips “deliberately” portrayed himself as a Vietnam veteran.

It’s difficult to determine at this point whether Phillips has deliberately misrepresented the nature of his service, whether he has been so vague and ambiguous in many of his descriptions (unintentionally or otherwise) that misinterpretations have entered his narrative, or whether he has tried to be accurate but may have just occasionally slipped up in his many, many hours of conversation and sometimes neglected to include the qualifiers about his service that he has used in many other videos and press interviews,” Snopes wrote in an update to the fact-check.

But Snopes wasn’t fact-checking whether Phillips “deliberately misrepresented” his record. Snopes was fact-checking the question: “Did Nathan Phillips Falsely Claim He Was A Vietnam Veteran?” It’s a fact that Phillips falsely claimed he was a Vietnam veteran.

This isn’t the first time that Facebook and Google’s partnerships with Snopes have resulted in the tech giants amplifying misinformation.

In December, Snopes botched its fact-check of a viral meme that was mocked within political circles for spreading false information. Snopes claimed the meme was accurate.

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Re: SNOPES, Lib Fact-Checker for Facebook and Google, Botches Nathan Phillips Fact Check
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: January 27, 2019 09:21PM

Here is Snopes Obsfucating their a*s off to make it appear that Nathan Phillips never said he was a Vietnam Veteran! What an atrocity!

So sickening that Snopes who is supposed to find out THE TRUTH, will not Tell The Truth - that Nathan Phillips said multiple times that he was a Vietnam Vet.

Here is Snopes admitting that Phillips said he was a Vietnam Vet and printing the statement where Phillips lied - yet Snopes to appear that Nathan Phillips is not Lying that he was a Vietnam Veteran

Another portion of the interview transcript also quoted Phillips as using the term “Vietnam veteran” in reference to himself, but since the video only included selected excerpts from the longer interview (not including the part quoted below), we can’t verify whether Phillips actually said “Vietnam veteran” or whether this was another case of transcription error:

Nathan Phillips said: "They were there looking for trouble, looking for something. Everybody knows the right to life and (pro-choice), it’s been like this and they’re hateful to each other. And it’s because I’m a veteran — I’m a Vietnam veteran — that these two groups even have the right in this country to have protests, to have conflicting opinions. If they were doing that, they should’ve done that there and then when they come into public, that wasn’t the place for that. That was a public forum where we was at. We were still under the protection of our permit for the indigenous peoples rally."

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Snopes goes on to quote another instance where Nathan Phillips lied and said he was a Vietnam Vet -

In an older, rambling self-made Facebook video that surfaced after the controversy broke, though, Phillips can seemingly be heard to say (at around the 9:35 mark) “I’m a Vietnam vet, and I served in Marine Corps 72 to 76. I got discharged May 5th, 1976 … I don’t talk much about my Vietnam times. I usually say I don’t recollect, I don’t recall those years”:

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Snopes goes on to Mislead the Readership by Jumping Through Hoops to Muddy the Waters - and blame the many Corrections the Lib Media had to issue for their and Nathan Phillips' LIES

In those many hours of interviews and videos, Phillips has made a number of unclear or ambiguous statements about his service that allow for a variety of interpretations (or misinterpretations). In the first Facebook video linked above, for example, he states — in reference to a form related to his discharge — that he left the service in peacetime and“what my box says is that I was ‘in theater.'” He doesn’t say what theater, though, nor does he state directly that he was in fact ‘in theater’ — he just observes that somebody checked that box on a form. It’s unclear whether he garbled what he was trying to say, was being deceptive, or was pointing out a mistake

In a 2018 Vogue article about Standing Rock, Phillips referenced Vietnam and his being “a recon ranger,” but again the statement was ambiguous — he said he was “from Vietnam times” and that “I’m what they call a recon ranger,” but it’s unclear whether he intended his statement to convey that he actually served as a “recon ranger” in Vietnam (which he apparently did not), or if he was using the term “recon ranger” to describe his post-military activities:

“I have a relative here who said he’d lead the way and scout ahead for us,” Phillips continued, his voice breaking. “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.”

In a 2008 article about Native American veterans, Phillips was cited as maintaining that he had been called “a baby killer” and spat upon — experiences commonly reported by Vietnam veterans returning to the U.S. — but that article now identifies him as a “veteran of the Vietnam era” and notes in a correction that “This article has been adjusted from its original version to show that Nathan Phillips was a Vietnam-era veteran and that he was spit on while in uniform as opposed to when he was returning from combat.” Did Phillips explicitly say he suffered such indignities while returning from Vietnam, or did the writer mistakenly assume that from something less specific that Phillips said to him?

Another Vogue article from January 2019 about Phillips stated that he “joined the Marines and served as an infantryman in the Vietnam War,” but that reference was soon excised from the article (without a correction notice). Again, did Phillips explicitly tell the writer he was “an infantryman in the Vietnam War,” or was that yet another misunderstanding of something Phillips (or someone else) said?

It’s difficult to determine at this point whether Phillips has deliberately misrepresented the nature of his service, whether he has been so vague and ambiguous in many of his descriptions (unintentionally or otherwise) that misinterpretations have entered his narrative, or whether he has tried to be accurate but may have just occasionally slipped up in his many, many hours of conversation and sometimes neglected to include the qualifiers about his service that he has used in many other videos and press interviews.

Nonetheless, at times it has certainly sounded as though Phillips was trying to foster the impression that he had both served during the Vietnam War and had been deployed to Vietnam at some point during his service, even if he didn’t literally say so.

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So after all this Bullcrap, Snopes' Rating is UNPROVEN that "Nathan Phillips falsely claimed to be a U.S. military veteran who served in the Vietnam War."

Frickin Liars!

So perfect example of Lib Snopes Lying, Twisting, Spinning, Misrepresenting Liar Fraud Dirtbag Stolen Valor Nathan Phillips.

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