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The Case of Mr. Larry Smith and Elvis
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 27, 2019 11:26AM

The copy of nathan Phillips DD 214 jennifer posted is not a DD214 missing much and order wrong.

Hers more proof Jennifer is so full of @#$%& with this DD 214 copy.

The Case of Mr. Larry Smith and Elvis
In order to illustrate just how difficult it can be to obtain military records, we’re going to tell you the story of a man who sought to obtain the military records of one Elvis Aaron Presley.

Whether Larry Smith was writing a book, was a memorabilia collector or just a curious guy, we don’t really know, but we do know that, under the Freedom of Information Act, it was his right as an American citizen to request and receive those records.

On June 16,1992, Mr. Smith requested the results of Elvis’s various aptitude tests, physical fitness test and other records from the U.S. Army Personnel Command. Little did he know what a long, arduous journey he was about to embark upon.

Two weeks later, his request was forwarded to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO, which is the central repository of personnel-related records for the military and one of the National Archives’ largest operations. A letter confirming this was summarily sent to Mr. Smith. Now believing the NPRC to be the appropriate office, Mr. Smith resubmitted his request to them. Not just once but, between July 27th and August 8th, four times.

Finally, on August 19th, Mr. Smith was informed by the NPRC that the items he was requesting were “not a matter of record.” Believing there had to be a record of these tests somewhere, Mr. Smith wrote immediately to the Freedom of Information Act Department of the Army, apprising them of the situation and asking them to forward his request to the department that had physical custody of the records.

Oh, and he also let them know that if he didn’t receive the records in a timely manner, that he would view such inaction as “an official denial of my FOIA Request, without just cause . . . with its attendant legal reflections on the U.S. Army.”

For good measure, Mr. Smith also sent a letter to the Office of Solicitor General, US Army, Pentagon on August 23rd, advising them of his predicament and asking for their assistance.

Still nothing. On August 31st, Mr. Smith filed a formal complaint with the Assistant U.S. Attorney asking for an investigation. On September 4th, the National Personnel Records Center finally sent their response, stating that they had not denied Mr. Smith’s requests, but that the information he was requesting was, again, “not a matter of record.”

Five years later, in 1997, after roughly 15 more complaint letters to several agencies and a threat to seek civil damages, Mr. Smith did receive some (not all) of the records he’d requested.

If the military couldn’t locate Elvis Presley’s service records, there’s a fair chance they’ll have trouble finding yours, too. Let’s face it, dealing with governmental bureaucracy is tough. And most people don’t have the tenacity, much less the time, to do what Mr. Smith did.

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Re: The Case of Mr. Larry Smith and Elvis
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 27, 2019 11:48AM

False claim on How Shipley obtained Phillips DD 214, - He knows people, Ha HaAAAAAAAAA

He knows people Ha HAAAAAAA

What most people don’t know is that military records are stored at literally over 100 repositories across the country and hardly any of them are accessible electronically, meaning that finding Military records will be a long, arduous process

Privacy and Security of Veterans Records
The National Archives values the privacy of our veterans very highly and actively protect their files stored here from disclosure to unauthorized individuals.

This is why we require veterans' authorization for third party disclosures, why the Department of Defense works to identify authorized users, and why we require the signature of those who purport to be the veteran or next of kin on requests for information, including DD 214s.

DD 214s are not available online. They are sent to the requester through the mail and like all other similar requests ( do require a written signature before the request is processed.) Additionally, for DD 214s, it uses a secure, encrypted channel.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2019 12:31PM by riverhousebill.

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Re: The Case of Mr. Larry Smith and Elvis
Posted by: riverhousebill ()
Date: January 28, 2019 12:20AM

Washington Post:

Correction: Earlier versions of this story incorrectly said that Native American activist Nathan Phillips fought in the Vietnam War. Phillips said he served in the U.S. Marines but was never deployed to Vietnam.

New York Times:

What part of this dont you get About nathan Phillips smear?
Correction: Jan. 22, 2019

An earlier version of this article, using information from the Indigenous Peoples Movement, gave an incorrect description of Mr. Phillips’s military service. While Mr. Phillips said he served in the military during the Vietnam era, he told The Times after publication that he was not deployed in Vietnam. The Times has requested his service record from the Pentagon.


Correction: This video states that Nathan Phillips is a Vietnam veteran. Phillips told CNN he is a “Vietnam-era veteran.” Phillips told the New York Times that though he did serve in the military during the Vietnam War, he was not deployed to Vietnam. CNN requested his service records

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