The wet dream of the Statists/Government Lovers has materialized. It's amazing how many Sheeple are taking it seriously.

This reminds me of the 911 Orchestrated Event. Then we ended up with the "War on Terror" and The Patriot Act.

Now what's the plan? All I can think of is Forced Vaccines, Collapse the Economy so Trump loses the Election, enforce "no large gatherings' so Biden doesn't have to do any more debates or appearances, what else? It's like a worldwide thing, so what's the outcome? One-World Government?

There are a few common-sense people out there in the media on 'my side' that I'm listening to or reading who think this 'Pandemic' is way overblown, crazy, hyped up, etc. They are Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, Candace Owens, and here is Heather MacDonald's article from Friday -

Compared to what?

On the misguided response to covid-19.

by Heather Mac Donald

[newcriterion.com]

Compared to what? That should be the question that every fear-mongering news story on the coronavirus has to start with. So far, the United States has seen forty-one deaths from the infection. Twenty-two of those deaths occurred in one poorly run nursing home outside of Seattle, the Life Care Center. Another nine deaths occurred in the rest of Washington state, leaving ten deaths (four in California, two in Florida, and one in each of Georgia, Kansas, New Jersey, and South Dakota) spread throughout the rest of the approximately 329 million residents of the United States. This represents roughly .000012 percent of the U.S. population.

Much has been made of the “exponential” rate of infection in European and Asian countries—as if the spread of all transmittable diseases did not develop along geometric, as opposed to arithmetic, growth patterns. What actually matters is whether or not the growing “pandemic” overwhelms our ability to ensure the well-being of U.S. residents with efficiency and precision. But fear of the disease, and not the disease itself, has already spoiled that for us. Even if my odds of dying from coronavirus should suddenly jump ten-thousand-fold, from the current rate of .000012 percent across the U.S. population all the way up to .12 percent, I’d happily take those odds over the destruction being wrought on the U.S. and global economy from this unbridled panic.

By comparison, there were 38,800 traffic fatalities in the United States in 2019, the National Safety Council estimates. That represents an average of over one hundred traffic deaths every day; if the press catalogued these in as much painstaking detail as they have deaths from coronavirus, highways nationwide would be as empty as New York subways are now. Even assuming that coronavirus deaths in the United States increase by a factor of one thousand over the year, the resulting deaths would only outnumber annual traffic deaths by 2,200. Shutting down highways would have a much more positive effect on the U.S. mortality rate than shutting down the U.S. economy to try to prevent the spread of the virus.

There have been 5,123 deaths worldwide so far—also a fraction of traffic deaths worldwide. And unlike coronavirus, driving kills indiscriminately, mowing down the young and the old, the sick and the healthy. The coronavirus, by comparison, is targeted in its lethality, overwhelmingly striking the elderly or the already severely sick. As of Monday, approximately 89 percent of Italy’s coronavirus deaths had been over the age of seventy, according to The Wall Street Journal. Sad to say, those victims were already nearing the end of their lifespans. They might have soon died from another illness. No child under the age of nine has died from the illness worldwide. In China, only one individual in the ten-to-nineteen age group has succumbed.

Comparing the relative value of lives makes for grisly calculus, but one is forced to ask: are we missing the forest for the trees? If the measures we undertake to protect a vulnerable few end up exposing them, along with the rest of society, to even more damaging risks—was it worth the cost?

An example: there were 34,200 deaths in the United States during the 2018–19 influenza season, estimates the cdc. We did not shut down public events and institutions to try to slow the spread of the flu. Yet we have already destroyed $5 trillion in stock market wealth over the last few weeks in the growing coronavirus panic, reports The New York Times, wiping out retirement savings for many.

The number of cases in most afflicted countries is paltry. As of today, 127 countries had reported some cases, but forty-eight of those countries had fewer than ten cases, according to Worldometer. At this point, more people have recovered from the virus than are still sick. But the damage to people’s livelihoods through the resulting economic contraction is real and widespread. Its health consequences will be more severe than those of the coronavirus, as Steve Malanga shows in City Journal. The people who can least afford to lose jobs will be the hardest hit by the assault on tourism. Small entrepreneurs, whether in manufacturing or the service sector, will struggle to stay afloat. Such unjustified, unpredicted economic havoc undermines government legitimacy.

President Trump has been criticized for not being apocalyptic enough in his press conferences. In fact, he should be even more skeptical of the panic than he has been. He should relentlessly put the coronavirus risk into context with opioid deaths, homicide deaths—about sixteen thousand a year in the United States—flu deaths, and traffic deaths. One might have thought New York governor Andrew Cuomo a voice of reason when, a few days ago, he tried to tamp down the hysteria in a press conference, saying: “This is not Ebola, this is not sars, this is not some science fiction movie come to life. The hysteria here is way out of line with the actuality and the facts.” And yet since then he called a state of emergency in New York, and he and Mayor Bill de Blasio have all but shut down the New York City economy. They, like most all U.S. politicians nowadays, have shown an overwhelming impulse to be irrationally risk-averse.

Rather than indiscriminately shutting down public events and travel, we should target prevention where it is most needed: in nursing homes and hospitals.

It is hard to imagine that the panicked leaders and populace of today would have been able to triumph in the last century’s World Wars. America’s colleges sent off thousands of their young men to fight and die in those wars; those students went off with conviction and courage. Currently, colleges and universities are shutting down with no hint of the virus in their vicinity. Would today’s panicked leaders and populace be able to triumph in the face of a World War, or some other legitimately comparable threat? Let’s hope that we do not have to find out.

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Trump was also skeptical and downplayed this virus at the beginning, but of course, he was set straight by the other side and realized he had to get on board or be creamed. Now it's like if you're a naysayer or skeptical, you're a conspiracy theorist or worse than an anti-vaxxer. So everybody has to be Politically Correct and go along with this hoax, as usual. And those who just plain believe it are just plain Sheeples. I was going to say they're stupid or ignorant, but no - they're Sheeple. Although maybe the young people are just naive.

Here's Rush Limbaugh, one of the first Common Sense Conservatives to come out and say this hyped-up coronavirus is a set-up. Listen at the link.

Limbaugh Says Coronavirus Outbreak Panic ‘Just Not Warranted’

[talkingpointsmemo.com]

Here's Dr. Drew interview on the "overblown press-created hysteria" -

Dr. Drew Pinsky Debunks the Fake Coronavirus News

[www.rushlimbaugh.com]

*******

Dr. Drew Says The Coronavirus Scare Is Being Over-hyped

[949thebull.iheart.com]



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200 deaths not 38 and over 14,000 confirmed cases As Of March 19. Not 1309 cases

USA 5 to 8 days behind Italy in virus procession.

Hype she says be back here in a few days with new numbers from the hype hoax.

World Meter -
U.S. Coronavirus Cases

As of March 20, 2020 at 14:50 GMT, there have been 14439 confirmed cases and 218 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States.

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riverhousebill

World Meter -
U.S. Coronavirus Cases

As of March 20, 2020 at 14:50 GMT, there have been 14439 confirmed cases and 218 deaths due to coronavirus COVID-19 in the United States.

So big whoop!

I assume you're a believer that this coronavirus is a 'Pandemic' and all the hype and hysteria of the media and masses and the destructive actions taken by the Government in the US and loss of our freedom and liberties are warranted?

Even trump has done a 180!

"With every crucial delay, with every blunder and misstep, the toll is going to be measured in lives lost."

This is a crime — and there are people directly responsible for it. Blood will be on the hands of those who have sent health care workers to war without armor, to fight battles brandishing pool noodles instead of swords.

It is criminal what is being done. And beyond criminal what is not being done.

jennifer be back here in seven days and tell me you still think its hype



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I think we should all Communicate support and encouragement for those who are on the frontlines of response to
this outbreak (health care workers, volunteers, community leaders etc).

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riverhousebill

Even trump has done a 180!

"With every crucial delay, with every blunder and misstep, the toll is going to be measured in lives lost."

This is a crime — and there are people directly responsible for it. Blood will be on the hands of those who have sent health care workers to war without armor, to fight battles brandishing pool noodles instead of swords.

It is criminal what is being done. And beyond criminal what is not being done.

jennifer be back here in seven days and tell me you still think its hype

What? I don't understand what you're saying.

Do you mean by "Even trump has done a 180!" that Trump had downplayed the 'supposed' enormity of the 'pandemic' at the beginning and then got serious about unleashing the Full Force of The Government to 'keep Americans safe'?

And what the heck do you mean by this statement:

"This is a crime — and there are people directly responsible for it. Blood will be on the hands of those who have sent health care workers to war without armor, to fight battles brandishing pool noodles instead of swords."

And what's 'criminal' and 'beyond criminal' about 'what is being done and what is not being done'?

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I take it that's a Yes, that you've bought into this Government Power Grab or Worse hook, line and sinker.

So because of 218 deaths out of 330,000,000 in the US, 'they've' Destroyed the Economy, Killed numerous Small Businesses, decimated Senior Citizens' Retirement accounts, Unleashed Poverty on those who were already Poor or Living Paycheck-to-Paycheck and Instilled Fear in how many Children and Young People.

"How can the forced closure of small businesses, ban on travel, restriction of movement, control of purchases and monitoring and reporting of behavior of everyone not be concerning to the very people who constantly warn us about the dangers of totalitarianism."

Jesus Christ. Expecting healthcare workers to reuse PPE is issuing some of them a death sentence.

Maybe, for the next pandemic, we should have PPE that’s not single use ready to go.

@realDonaldTrump
putting ALL Americans lives in danger because he ignored the warnings. #WhereAreTheTestKits #WhereAreTheMasks #WhereAreTheVentilators

jennifer your going to eat crow You say hype.

“At least 2,629 health care workers—roughly 8.3 percent of all cases in Italy—have contracted COVID-19.”

American health workers worry about the pandemic wave overwhelming them. They should. In Italy that's already happened, and Italy was better prepared than the U.S.

I think we should all Communicate support and encouragement for those who are on the frontlines of response to
this outbreak (health care workers, volunteers, community leaders etc).



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it’s easier to create a bad guy than it is to admit that maybe we—the U.S., and the world—screwed the pooch when it comes to public health.

"FEMA says, 'we're sending 400 ventilators.' Really? What am I going to do with 400 ventilators when I need 30,000?" Cuomo said. "You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die because you only sent 400 ventilators."

And the Covidiots cackle hype

Yeah, that's the Lib story today - Cuoma needs ventilators and can't get them. And it's all Trump's fault, of course.

But The Real Story is - Cuomo was offered to order 16,000 ventilators in 2015, but instead opted to form a Death Panel to assign which patients should be put on a ventilator. So that's on him that he didn't make sure his state was equipped with the proper equipment that would be needed in case of an emergency.

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"An opinion piece from last week in the New York Post made the claim that “in 2015, the state could have purchased the additional 16,000 needed ventilators for $36,000 apiece, or a total of $576 million.”

New York state public health officials a few years ago established a task force to investigate the lack of ventilators in the state and find a way to remedy the situation.

The task force discovered that were 7,250 ventilators in New York hospitals and about 1,900 in nursing homes – with most of them already in use. Even with the state’s own stockpile, that task force said there was only 2,800 total ventilators available, despite health officials’ warnings that a major outbreak could require 18,600 New Yorkers to be on the machines each week during the crisis’ peak.

Instead of buying the ventilators in 2015, the task force created a priority system for who would be put on a ventilator – red being the most dire, blue being the least – and assigned a triage officer, or “death panel” as Trump said, to make the life-or-death decisions."

We didn’t have to have ventilator shortage — leaders chose not to prep for pandemic

[nypost.com]

Hospitals in New York are running short. To his credit, Gov. Andrew Cuomo is doing his best, but he admits “you can’t find available ventilators no matter how much you’re willing to pay right now, because there is literally a global run on ventilators.”

It’s a little late. Several years ago, after learning that the Empire State’s stockpile of medical equipment had 16,000 fewer ventilators than the 18,000 New Yorkers would need in a severe pandemic, state public-health leaders came to a fork in the road.

They could have chosen to buy more ventilators to back up the supplies hospitals maintain. ­Instead, the health commissioner, Howard Zucker, assembled a task force for rationing the ventilators they already had.

In 2015, that task force came up with rules that will be imposed when ventilators run short. ­Patients assigned a red code will have highest access, and other ­patients will be assigned green, yellow or blue (the worst), ­depending on a “triage officer’s” decision.

In truth, a death officer. Let’s not sugar-coat it. It won’t be up to your own doctor.

In 2015, the state could have purchased the additional 16,000 needed ventilators for $36,000 apiece, or a total of $576 million. It’s a lot of money, but in hindsight, spending half a percent of the budget to prepare for pandemic was the right thing to do.

Now the pandemic is actually here. New York’s grim-reaper rules will be applied. New York City’s deputy commissioner for disease control, Demetre Daskalakis, is anticipating “some very ­serious, difficult decisions.” So far, in Gotham, one of every four people with a confirmed case has been hospitalized, and 44 percent of them have needed a ventilator.

In Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the pandemic, doctors recently faced the grim arithmetic of 1,000 patients needing ventilators and only 600 available. Italy is rationing ventilators, too, leaving many to die without them.

But in New York, rationing ventilators should be unnecessary. The state knew of the shortage, had the money and should have bought the lifesaving equipment, instead of making a plan for who should live or die. A lesson for the future.

In Italy, the death rate from coronavirus is a staggering 8 percent, more than double what’s occurring in many other countries. That’s partly because almost a quarter of Italy’s population is over 65 and thus especially vulnerable.

The other reason is that ­Italy’s universal national health system promises free care but delivers stingy care. Italy has only around one-third as many intensive-care beds per capita as the United States does. Coronavirus patients are being turned away.

Expect the same dire results in the United Kingdom. The British National Health Service allocates about one-fifth as many intensive care beds per capita as American hospitals do. Bernie Sanders, are you watching? What’s happening in Italy and Britain is proof single-payer heath care is emphatically not the way to go.

Hospitals here in the United States will face severe challenges in the coming weeks, including shortages of space, equipment and personnel. But nothing compared to the extreme scarcity in Europe’s ­national health systems."

Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, is chairwoman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths.

[nypost.com]

President Trump on Tuesday assailed Gov. Andrew Cuomo for reportedly declining to buy 16,000 ventilators in 2015 to deal with a potential future pandemic.

“He had 16,000 ventilators that he could have bought and he didn’t buy them. He should’ve ordered the ventilators,” Trump said during a Fox News town hall. “They can’t blame us for that. Gov. Cuomo is supposed to be buying his own ventilators.”

jennifer BS Betsy McCaughey misreads New York State report from 2015. The Gateway Pundit spreads it — and Trump repeats it.

Trump slings "death panels" lie at Cuomo — taken from far ...www.mediamatters.org › coronavirus-covid-19 › trump-slings-death-...
14 hours ago - ... claimed was a report of how Cuomo had negligently failed to buy ventilators for his state years ago — and now the governor was supposedly ...



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Worldwide, the death toll climbed past 21,000, according to a running count kept by Johns Hopkins University. The number of dead in the U.S. rose to 1,041 as of late Wednesday, with nearly 70,000 infections.

And she cackles Hyped Up Coronavirus "Pandemic" aka A Glorified Cold

Then post lie - US Coronavirus Fatality Rate Continues to Fall. WTF???

Maybe I missed it, Anyone else here see Fatality Rate Fall ???

people like trump - Hoax, and other Covidiots - Hype, Are a danger to the world and should be the one's quarantined

"Worldwide, the death toll climbed past 21,000"

So big whoop!

Worldwide, the population is 7.8 Billion!

So:

21,000
_______
7,800,000,000

So THEY'VE (with the help of the Sheeple/Statists/Government Lovers) Shut the World Down, Destroyed Society, Everyone's Liberty and Freedom, Destroyed the World's Economy, Shredded the Constitution, and plunged Billions of people into Misery and Poverty for a ...

.0002% Fatality Rate!

Who are the Idiots? Who are the Sheeple?

jennifer your so full of chit! And you know it

Se

Wednesday was deadliest day in reported US coronavirus ...edition.cnn.com › 2020/03/25 › health › coronavirus-state-actions-wedn...
3 hours ago - More than 200 deaths from Covid-19 were reported Wednesday in the United States -- a new high for fatalities recorded in a single day.

Oh my fuging God Rush Limbugh cig smoking lung cancer arse hole common sense

quote Jennifer
Here's Rush Limbaugh, one of the first Common Sense Conservatives to come out and say this hyped-up coronavirus is a set-up. Listen at the link.

The wet dream of the Statists/Government Lovers has materialized.
( It's amazing how many Sheeple are taking it seriously. eye rolling smiley )

I assume you're a believer that this coronavirus is a 'Pandemic' and all the hype and hysteria.

Now what's the plan? All I can think of is Forced Vaccines, Collapse the Economy so Trump loses the Election.

Yes my dear, They are trying to set trump up, Even his own Admin,Trumps Fema out to make our potus look bad now!

FEMA Sending Refrigerated Trucks To New York City For Bodies Of Coronavirus Victims
The estimated 85 trucks will serve as temporary morgues as the city becomes overwhelmed by the rising COVID-19 death toll.

keep The Boots on kids. Rush Limpballs OMG really ? Kluck kluck Kluck

We can learn from past Pandemics -

Distorting facts, and downplaying the threat always makes matters worse.

people spreading lies like jemmfer wont help with this pandemic!

EDITORS' PICK|1.202.833 views|Mar 17, 2020,10:03pm EDT
No, COVID-19 Coronavirus Was Not Bioengineered. Here’s The Research That Debunks That IdeaNo, COVID-19 Coronavirus Was Not Bioengineered. Here’s The Research ...
[www.forbes.com]...

Thanks for posting the link to the article and the title of the article. The link you posted didn't work, so I looked it up by title. Here it is --

No, COVID-19 Coronavirus Was Not Bioengineered. Here’s The Research That Debunks That Idea

[www.forbes.com]

And it would have been nice if you had posted your post in the thread I started about The Case to be Made that Covid-19 was Created in a Lab, but thanks for the input.

That article make a couple valid points I suppose, but this paragraph where he reasons that - just because the lab in Wuhan contained the coronavirus does not mean that it was a manufactured virus. He says it was just a coincidence that:

"there just happens to be a biosafety level-four (BSL-4) laboratory situated in Wuhan, China, the city where the whole outbreak started. Oh, and the lab had housed some types of coronaviruses among other pathogens."

So nothing to see here, according to him.

********

So instead this guy - who may be a Chinese guy - has this theory:

The virus jumped off bats onto humans, then waited a while before causing trouble -

"So all of this further supports the theory that the virus jumped from bats to humans via some intermediate animal host. This doesn’t necessarily mean that the virus started causing trouble as soon as it started infecting humans. An alternative possibility is that it jumped a longer time ago and hung out among humans for a while before eventually evolving into its current troublesome selves."

Yeah, sure, that batsh*t theory is so much more plausible then the common sense theory that - The virus was messed around with by someone at the lab in which it was housed.

Hyped Up Coronavirus "Pandemic" aka A Hyped Up Coronavirus "Pandemic" aka A Glorified Cold - What's the End Game? - What's the End Game?

What else needs to be said, her title of thread ? Shows a very confused cookie
or cronic lier that has polititacl Agenda.

But but but but they are just tryng to bring our great potus down, ha Ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
oh yeh Im not a trump supporter.

Can you believe it the level of ignorance Hyped Up Coronavirus "Pandemic" aka A Glorified Cold -

Those eighty five refrigerated 18 wheelers temporary morgues sent by Trump Fema just and attempt to bring him downright my dear? Ha Ha
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

KEPP YOUR BOOTS ON KIDS!

Ps again calling out the 100 percent lie you posted
Wher did we bet $100 on your bogus link Zero Hendge



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The virus’s genetic makeup reveals that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t a mishmash of known viruses, as might be expected if it were human-made. And it has unusual features that have only recently been identified in scaly anteaters called pangolins, evidence that the virus came from nature, Kristian Andersen and his colleagues report March 17 in Nature Medicine.

There are currently 1,199,583 confirmed cases and 64,662 deaths from the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak as of April 04, 2020, 23:42 GMT.

Nasty Cold would would say

We can learn from past Pandemics -

Distorting facts, and downplaying the threat always makes matters worse.


A Complete List of Trump's Attempts to Play Down ...www.nytimes.com › 2020/03/15 › opinion › trump-coronavirus.


Reporter: White House Knew Of Coronavirus' 'Major Threat ...www.npr.org › 2020/03/12 › white-house-knew-coronavirus-would-be-...


Trump's Statements About the Coronavirus - FactCheck.orgwww.factcheck.org › 2020/03 › trumps-statements-about-the-coronav.


11 times Donald Trump has 'belittled' coronavirus - CNNPoliticsedition.cnn.com › 2020/04/01 › politics › donald-trump-coronavirus-mi..


Trump Has Downplayed the Coronavirus: A Timeline - Rolling ...www.rollingstone.com › trump-coronavirus-timeline-dismissed-969381
Mar 19, 2020 - 'Not Concerned at All':

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riverhousebill

There are currently 1,199,583 confirmed cases and 64,662 deaths from the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak as of April 04, 2020, 23:42 GMT.

Nasty Cold would would say

For the hundredth time, the increasing number of Confirmed Cases only means they're doing more testing. And yes, there will be more Deaths until the Flu Season ends, like every year.

The only meaningful number is the Number of Deaths divided by the Total Population.

So the Total Population of the World is 7.53 Billion.

So 64,662 Deaths divided by 7,530,000,000 Total People equals ....

.08587% Fatality Rate

Wow, I'm scared