is quiet like the coolness of midnight ocean waters shimmering under moonlight
and silent like a white rock whose jagged outline casts elongated shadows on the boulder behind it?

is quiet like the smooth flesh of a hawaiian papaya
and silent like the fuzzy prickliness of the outer rind of a kiwi?

is quiet like drinking water from the apex singing river
and silence is the absence of water and just the outline of where it once flowed?

i'm wondering
if they are one and the same
or somehow different

when does quiet stop being the silken coolness that is succor to the soul and segues into becoming a cold edge of a sharp rock?

like everything else
one can be something til it becomes another but then it can , sometimes, almost seamlessly go back to being what is desired from it

not just a frame of mind
but the miracle of spirit

that takes one there
focus is key
taking action to prove to oneself that the dream is real is another
way

the dream is endless
so many lifetimes multiplying forever
all distilled to a single moment

raw is sort of like that
a sliver of an outline of the spirit of that
in a way

the continual seed of life
helping one become a better conductor
to ferry between the ocean of quiet and the desert of silence

that's one reason to become raw
so that silence is quietude

and quietude can be enjoyed

its quiet here
or maybe its just silent

Quiet is bursting to come out and silent is nothing.

I like quiet alot better than slilent

silent is inaudible..but not invisible.
quiet is low in decibals.. but how much of it can you make out?

i can make out a lot of it actually
like silver ripples when a pebble is dropped

like 'silver undertones" in the water harpsichord

i had this concept that i really liked the idea of....

then the phone rang.

..so much for my memory.

what can u do? ( shrug)

see?

quiet is important
and phones are big boulders that crash through the silence
erasing your memory

quiet is a substance
just like a papaya izzzz

quite is when I can't hear myself.......
silence, when nature joins in...............

elnatural

hmmm... that's fairly interesting, el natural
i was thinking the opposite
putting the word quiet for silence and vise versa

but i don't have the monopoly on these two words
though they are the great insubstantial substance that create all other substantive things

veronique

maybe you don't understand what I "said", I purposely made it a little tricky and only those who have experienced natures rest will understand.

elnatural

quiet is a layer above silence.. its a less dense layer it is more "cool" in temperature

silence is more dense.. and verrry deep and most can't handle it

but if u go beyond your own mental noise and into the forbidden "last frontier" of "silence"

then it envelops you in its chrysalis cocoon and enfolds you to sleep

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz

silence is like kim chi inverted

heh heh !

la-veronique

I see you do know silence.

They who encounter silence are braver than a mighty warrior.
They who embrace silence know true freedom.
Those who's freind is silence lack nothing.
silence speaks wisdom
in silence knowledge is heard
the greatest teacher of all is silence
it paves the way for understanding
silence divides between noing and knowing
silence is when you run out of kimchi

elnatural

yes

tis true that silence is when u run out of the great almight cayenne saturated cabbage
and are left with nothing but off white napa underlying husk of greenish foliage
just at the rims staring at you on a wooden board saying

"where's dah garlic"?

silence is or can be a fiendish fiend
fiendish indeed
fiendish fiend
arrrgggghhhHHHHH

fiendish fiend
fiendish indeed
til u take its hand
and dance with it
til u take its hand
and close yer eyes
and listen to its rhythm
its special music

til u dance with it
and learn its move
til u dance and let the dance teach you more moves
til u dance with it and fall in love with its plain ness
til u dance with it
then it will take u into another dance floor
where there is no floor

and u are floating

silence has few friends

i felt sorry for silence

all alone there in a corner

i felt sorry for silence

so when it came up to me and asked me if i wanted to dance

i said

"yes sir"

and felt no regret