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Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: blue_sky ()
Date: November 06, 2007 03:36AM

Hi all,

I found a very interesting/meaningful article regarding today's discovery of science compare to the ancient. However, it's in Chinese and I can't translate them into English 'cause my English is really poor. And I think that it would be nice if it's in English so everyone can read it.

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Many thanks in advance.

All the Best,
Wong

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Re: Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: November 06, 2007 01:53PM

this is what Babelvfish translated (im sure some is lost in translation lol)

Cao is triumphant (Academia Sinica developmental biology to grind) The comprehensive survey human history, breaks through the old idea the truth before, accepts in the universal manner all is the barrier layer on layer, goes through many hardships. This article viewpoint, possibly can incur comes all sorts to rebuke. I only am want to propose it, the opportunity which pondered the reason remains for the public. As for gives my scolding, perhaps is the very good gift. New thing birth always so. Foreword Rails can live with the big hat keeps off the truth the footsteps? The green hill cannot block from, east flows after all. The now science, many people ÒýÒÔΪÈÙ: The people rejoice Earth this advantageous star, not saw in the environment in the universe to breed the life, rejoiced from is low and so on the biology successfully evolves the humanity, especially is conceit from the ancient times ignorantly until the today science huge progress. But in the recent 20 years, more and more many paleontology and the archaeology fact, caused this scientific belief to start to vacillate. The theory of evolution once took 19th century the significant discoveries, become the modern science the important constituent. It not merely is the modern biology foundation, also is the modern physiology, ethics, the psychology, the philosophy down to the social consciousness cornerstone. But, the theory of evolution crisis, causes some scholars reto carefully examine the human true history, inquires about the human real origin. On the other hand, causes the theory of evolution the evidence faintly recognizable to the fossil again strict appraisal and the system summary, but the prehistoric civilization discovered and the thorough research is without doubt finally as soon as strikes to the theory of evolution, some scholars start reto carefully examine modern the science. Some prehistoric civilized vestiges unfold the highly developed science and technology, is today humanity can not hold a candle, we saw the today science huge limitation and falls into error place. Prehistoric civilization discovery The traditional theory thought modern age the humanity probably origins in 100,000 years ago from South Africa, migrates from there to south Europe and Asia, continues from Asia to migrate, arrives the new continent in 30,000 years ago after Bering Strait, arrives at South America in 15,000 years ago. But, the massive facts denied this kind to leave the womb to the theory of evolution hypothesis. Massively has the excellent wisdom the civilized vestige, actually has far exceeds the human civilization the history, these different times vestiges, have completely broken with theory of evolution. In 1880, the American California too the wave mountain 300 feet underground unearthed one batch of fine stone implement tool, after has appraised this is 55 million year ago vestige; In 1968, archaeologist Zhu Yite (Y. Druet) (H. Salfati) in the lime rock layer had discovered together with the Saar law peduncle in France some different models metal tubes, the rock layer age is 65 million years (Corliss, 1978, 652 ~ 653). Far may trace in South African ¿ËÀ³ Keshan unearthed several hundred exquisite ½ðÊôÇò, is apart from the now for 2.8 billion years. In front of these facts and the theory of evolution hypothesis, what do we choose? In 1966, Mexico's Huo Asia ÀÕ¿Ë unearthed one batch of iron spear, US'S geologist wheat Dr. Gentile had discovered this is 250,000 years weapon. This the scientist which violates the theory of evolution the result really to let the tradition is unable to accept. This in professor which on international has the certain fame, because persists the fact, was compelled to leave own enterprise. Archaeologist Juan The Aman tower bitter experience similarly makes people awaken to the truth. Pulls Mandalay in Mexico's Pu Switzerland, he discovered inside an animal's jaw bone fossil has together the broken hard spear spear point, appraises this is 260,000 year ago weapon, some publications announced this unusual discovery, but the very quick move came the authorities not to make any investigation the critique. Afterwards, the Aman tower loses enters the archaeology scene the right, some people bring the gun to go to the scene, forces the worker to sign, indicated that is they buries in there. In 60 individual, some 3 individual signatures. The Aman tower enterprise has died, lost continued to be engaged in the research the right. This kind of story also has many. Resembled some people always in the maintenance past thing, they were allowed to depend on the experience denial fact. Along with time passing, in front of the fact, the theory of evolution exposition question are more and more many. Some theory of evolution scholars start to be a traitor, they according to the fact discretely to propose to the theory of evolution the question, naturally without a single exception the move has come the experience critique. However, the fact is the truth soil after all. The green hill cannot block from, east flows after all. The prehistoric civilization has demonstrated the human periodicity development rule, with fossil record perfect match The massive prehistorics civilized vestige discovered one after another that, the fact caused the people to be able not but reto carefully examine before such as the theory of evolution and so on hypothesis. Archaeologist Klemmer and Thomsen (Michael A. Cremo & Richard Thompson)"Archaeology Forbidden area" (Forbidden Archeology) a book, has enumerated 500 conclusive instances, that is several ten thousand, several hundred thousand, million, several ten thousand down to several 1 billion year ago human civilized vestige, these all once were the objects which the theory of evolution avoids. West American Texas state Larke in the river bank rock layer, has discovered 12 people's footprint fossils nearby the dinosaur footprint fossil, several years ago, Cull Bao regarding this started the thorough research, he ruled out the artificial carving possibility by the full argument. Afterwards, in the identical stratum had discovered person's finger fossil and an iron hammer, ´¸±ú already turned the coal, indicated this area when ancient times, once deeply buried in underground. The hammer head includes 96.6 % iron, 0.74 % sulfur, 2.6 % chlorine, this kind of present are all impossible the alloy which composes, has demonstrated a prehistoric highly developed humanity civilization. In the republic of Gabon discovered 2 billion year ago the large-scale nuclear reactor, the reactor structure also also must be more advanced than today, may use the radioactive element is completely refined the light. Many scholars guessed that reactor is alien's vestige, then the Bolivia 20,000 year ago emperor Warner branch (Tiahuaracu) the old city, megalith construction and so on ancient times temple obviously was the Earth person's vestige, it manifested the astronomy knowledge and the metallurgy technology have also surpassed the modern people; But 250,000 year ago made of iron weapon demonstrated a not too developed human civilization, the famous American Science magazine 98 years (282 volumes 1,453 ~ 1,459) published a series of archaeology to discover: 15,000 year ago portrait, 23,000 year ago portrait, 30,000 years ago uses the fierce ivory carvings horse, 90,000 years ago belt barb spear. We knew that, our humanity's civilization develops from the ignorant time to today magnificence, has only used about 5000, these gap remote historical sites, have very possibly represented the different time civilization. Such example is innumerable. According to these conclusive without doubt facts, some scholars proposed the prehistoric civilized theory. They thought humanity's development certainly did not look like before imagined such, but was periodic, the different time Earth had the different civilization, the different time Earth's big disaster has destroyed then civilization, even exterminated at that time the overwhelming majority biology. Fortunately survives the person, starts from the initial state, multiplication development, also enters the next civilization, also destroys in the next global disaster, starts once again. Follows the "birth --- development --- to perish the" rule, the circulation reciprocation. This theory, it may be said the perfect match with the geologic history recording. When when we face up to these the history which is covered by the theory of evolution, calmly realizes: The fossil should not testify for the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution most basic evidence --- transitional form fossil, had not actually found, "Placed on trial Darwin" a book author Johnson (Philip Johnson) to make such summary: The "fossil demonstrates some kind of organism to us which all is suddenly appears, not gradually evolves any trace... These organisms once appeared, basically no longer have changed, even if several million years, how no matter the climate and the environment did change. If Darwin's theory establishment, these conditions originally should cause the species huge change. "that fossil in testimony what? --- ÔÖ±ä. The fossil is not under the generic condition can form, the biology must bury underground in before the rotten decency is very deep, can gradually turn the fossil under the formidable pressure. Only had in a big way ÔÖ±ä can provide such condition, the fossil has also become the disaster testimony. In the stratum the fossil research exactly tells the people: The species development is in the very short time the big area suddenly appears, the development prospers, again arrives the big deconstruction, residual and newly appears the species like this develop again, start once again. The modern scientific circles recognize: Has had several especially big exterminating in the geologic history, nearly exterminated all biology, but certainly did not mean between the big extinction cycle, does not have the total destruction. The Earth periodicity ÔÖ±ä direct proof are extremely many. The boss ÄÏ˹ base has studied for 50 years to the emperor Warner branch old city, had discovered the ample evidence indicated destroys that civilized disaster, is an unprecedented big flood. Benefits in the west uncle in the frozen earth, had discovered freezes tens of thousands of mammal's remains. Some is very complete, some are torn to pieces twists with the bough in the same place. Examines in their stomach food, had discovered does not have the temperate zone grass which digests with enough time. The living fact tells the people, in the extremely short time, has this inconceivable »ÙÃðÐÔ disaster, temperate local biology, completely frozen stiff in today position. Up to now the obviously large-scale prehistoric humanity civilized vestige, Egypt's pyramid, the Mexican ancient Masurium Yaren pyramid, Bolivia's emperor Warner branch ancient city ruins, the Peruvian Èø¿ËÈû China graceful castle perhaps was the outstanding representative. These megalith constructions manifested technology and so on an astronomy, building, metallurgy have surpassed modern people's civilization. The highly developed prehistoric civilization, has unfolded other science development route An important clue tells us, concerns these places the initial historical data record: The ancient Egyptian declared base sand pyramid has nothing to do with with them. In the past the people could not understand that, has given this great achievements the ancient Egyptian. Now the scholar realizes: The Egyptian base sand three pyramid's stone material weight, already has only surpassed the London all constructions weight sum total, the ancient Egyptian 100,000 workers transport them in 20 years not to be simply impossible, much less also must cut exactly right, wants a precise construction --- not fault the trace? ! These structural purposes megalith cuttings extremely smooth is neat, weight all in several ton, several tons, even on hundred ton, several hundred tons. If in the Egyptian pyramid's king palace sarcophagus, is an entire granite vulture chisels, at that time used ×ê¾ß drills the stone today the electric drill to want to be quicker than 500 times. Between the megalith builds extremely closely, all cannot insert including the thinnest bit. Emperor Warner branch ruins recent discovery has promulgated these construction techniques excellent place: They knock out the neighboring megalith between the scoop channel, pours into the melting metal, after the metal coagulation, neighboring megalith firmly continually in together. A this need migration free metallurgy workshop, can melt the quite several gallons metals, builds along with the megalith to the high place, the metallurgy workshop freely rises, in the under stone has not left behind the trace which any pressure delimits, obviously the metallurgy workshop is facile! These technologies are today all are unable to achieve. Egyptian base sand three pyramid to ÁÔ»§ÐÇ ×ù´ø grain Tristar, the emperor Warner branch temple main entrance and the corner of a wall, precisely has located the position which the spring, the summer, the winter first day sun raises. All constructions and the position and the heavenly body maintain highly consistently, indicated they have grasped the precise astronomy technology. How places that such heavy megalith neatly, the direction is extremely precise, is today architect is unable to imagine. They had fully demonstrated a highly developed civilization has existed in the Earth, has left behind their style megalith construction in Earth many places. Why did then humanity have to construct the difficulty to be so big, the consumption so big construction? The reasonable explanation is: Then human civilization extrapolated us also must be much more developed than, constructed these not to be certainly difficult. Now the science falls into error place Is today science opposite, what the result in many aspects and the above issue of prehistoric civilized spirit which runs counter to also is? The real diagnosis science neglect overall, the whole, take the minor details. Its guiding ideology thought "grasps the whole the key is the differentiation", must study a thing, subdivides it, subdivides again, the research clear each detail, returns to original state again the whole, is called the return to original state theory. But in fact, because the domain, the discipline split hairs, too specially, radically is unable to return to original state the whole, even between various disciplines all cannot completely understand, the return to original state discussed the bubble. In fact the real diagnosis science development result, already was unable to grasp the whole, then could not but acknowledge the reality was: The real diagnosis science is unable comprehensively to know the thing. This development science route limitation is clear. The people hold the theory of evolution, reprimands the religious morals good and evil is the superstition, despises ancient's all. When we discovered this is falls into error, only then surprised discovered he gives the latent harm which the humanity the civilization brings, this also is precisely a today science deficiency performance. The theory of evolution has misled the entire biology, simultaneously has misled the physiology, the psychology, ethics and the philosophy and so on many domains, has misled the human civilization development. It lets the person regards as the religion and the moral good and evil the deceit, ruins spiritual reposing and the moral restriction; It tells the people the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest, adopts each method in the competition to develop oneself; It emphasized the individuality development, lets the people believe counter- traditional, the counter- tidal current distortion possibly appears evolves, a better result; It lets the person believe the person is animal's descendant, lets the person believe person's natural disposition originates from the animal; The western psychology further develops thought that, Human's desire is the person essence natural disposition, even is the best natural disposition which the evolution comes out, has relieved the restraint for ÎïÓû the crossflow and ethics ruining from the science, this kind of propaganda has already flooded society's aspects. All sorts of this kinds ruin the factor seeps the modern average man society all, latent impelled the human morals landslide. The science causes the people to believe the person is the natural control, carries on greedy plundering and the destruction to the nature, the endless competition, society's malformed development, the resources ºÄ½ß, the environment pollution, the miserable row war, acts in a self-serving manner, for oneself, does not only count the consequence. The people emphasized the individuality, indulges develops, "the evolution" at the same time own, at the same time survives in the intense competition and the worry. Person more and more selfish, when the selfish desire cannot obtain satisfies, each kind of not moral behavior and the crime are increasingly fierce. The people have lost the understanding and the trust, has lost the security sense in the society, has lost the happy true meaning. Loses moral the restraint, people out of control development selfish desire, short enjoying with the glory, receives in exchange for beyond any help all, the humanity rigorous is regarding this helpless. Constructs representative's prehistoric civilization with that issue of megalith to compare, today the science insignificance, today civilization development falls into error obviously. Today had forgotten, the history actually is warning us The cyclical samsara prehistoric civilization tells us: The history is repeats, likely the star revolution in a disorderly way is same. In former days we relied on the theory of evolution proud to submit willingly animal's descendant, bragged the science despised ancient's ignorance. Many is engaged in the evolution research the scientist struggles for several dozens years, more studies more discovered evolution faintly recognizable, has photograph Newton, Einstein is same, finally awakens, goes to in the religion to seek the answer. Has some to fall into the agnosticism, but also has some people to know really few to the science new progress, but also in maintenance theory of evolution ---- this today was looking like already the scientific nature might not say belief. When the people start to know human civilization development periodic rule time, some archaeologists, realized to the ancient fable true value, specially to the oneself ancestor's story, in the following archaeology analysis, many one after another obtained the confirmation. Preserved the until now ancient times civilization the descendant, they believed the God, believed the causes and effects, also has moral the restraint. They had already known the civilized samsara rule, in the world each place fable, also must be more ancient than the Holy Bible, in previous civilized deconstruction disaster form astonishingly consistent --- big flood? ! In the civilization in the reason which destroys astonishing consistent --- human morals ruining? In in the ancient civilized place of origin ancient fable, we also can know how the humanity does ruin, how moves towards the deconstruction. Stays behind the person is sleeping lightly the posterity, but today humanity, actually regards as ancient's warning the myth. The innumerable magnificent civilizations have vanished, can see is only the fragmentary vestiges, in ours memory, only remembered the Plato time stays behind fable: The developed Asian especially blue emperor Si civilization is buried the seabed. When we bravely face up to the human true history time, perhaps can realize that issue of wisdom why the humanity does have to construct these "the monument" indestructibly. In Easter Island, these silently look East's megalith portrait, perhaps these quarters tears face, is the ancestor keeps today most precious sleeping lightly. Suddenly faced these counter- past the thought convention fact, perhaps very many people for a while with difficulty accepted, although faced is the fact. The author also once faced the complicated fact and the contradiction, fell not handles at a loss in the theory of evolution. Who can discover these is disorderly, behind the opposition suspicion harmonious unification answer? We anticipate Correlation commentary (0)

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: la_veronique ()
Date: November 06, 2007 08:46PM

goodness!

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Re: Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: inspirit ()
Date: November 07, 2007 12:39AM

Here's a version that might be a little easier to read (sometimes google scares me a little)
[translate.google.com]

Pretty interesting read...

inspirit - aka coolkarma

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Re: Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: blue_sky ()
Date: November 07, 2007 09:12AM

Hi Jodi and inspirit,

Thank you so much for your time! =)

Meanwhile I think I'll try to find a better translation if possible...

All the Best,
Wong

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Re: Anyone here good in both Chinese and English? Please translate.
Posted by: Lightform ()
Date: November 07, 2007 11:59PM

So my take on this in a nutshell is..
There has been much geological evidence showing that evolution moves in cycles. It is being ignored because our various scientific disciplines are specific and segmented and only understand part of the picture. We are due for another of the periodic cleanses if we don't start understanding our connectedness.

Thanks Blue.. it would be nice to read a coherent english version though.

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