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F1228 is posting porn, get rid of them!

The sooner the better!

thanks much!

elnatural

lol is he a troll?

Last night's posts by Raw1228 were a good example of possible drinking gone amuck. Similar examples are Mel Gibson and also the Calif comedian's racial tyrade onstage in the night club. Alcohol is an inhibition suppressant and whatever emotions a person is feeling when a state of drunkenness occurs go on display. I'm not saying drinking is good or bad I am just saying that every so often an example will show itself and it helps to understand the mechanics at work behind the scene. If a person could contain their drinking to times when they feel happy the result would be a very happy drunk but when they uncork the bottle on ugly emotions by the time they get drunk you can have a very ugly drunk. What have been your experiences with with drinking ?

No experience, non drinker.

elnatural

Same, non-drinker. Agree that the poster should be removed.

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Hi, I have known 1228 for 4 years. It has been the downfall for us.
Maybe with enough support he will finally get the help he needs for his drinking problem.
What you saw on this site, I have seen first hand, sorry to say.
He instroduced me to the raw diet, to that I am thankful. Otherwise, I don't know right now.

there is a difference i think between "drinking" which is just person x drinking substance y, and being an aloholic, which is a specific type of person consuming a substance that they cannot physically process.

there have been times in my life when i have partied a lot, drank alot. but i am always ME, maybe less inhibited, but not essentially different. i don't drink alcohol anymore, but just for the sake of argument, i have enough experience with this to know that no matter what i drank, how much i drank, and in what frame of mind i am in when i drank it, i would never say or do something that is totally out of whack... you know? there is no pre-drinking mindstate, or amount of alcohol, that would cause ME to be abusive

i have also been around people who, when they drink, become someone else. really and truly, have that jeckyl and hyde thing going on. in my experience, those people are always alcoholics. i had a roommate once who would drink and do some really off the wall things, and these were not things that she really wanted to do but just had her inhibitions lowered through drinking, they were things that were dramatically out of step with her authentic self. there was no question in my mind (or anyone elses) that my old roommate was an alcoholic, but the other interesting thing was whenever she drank the core of her body would get extremely flushed --neck chest and stomach would turn bright red. such an obvious physical symptom of ALLERGY, essentially. not all alcoholics show these physical symptoms, but if someone behaves radically different on alcohol than they do in their otherwise daily existance, its a good bet that they are an alcoholic.

an alcoholic's liver does not process alcohol the way a non-alcoholic's does. they cannot process it and it overloads their system, causes their brain chemistry to go haywire, literally poisons them to a degree that we non alcoholics have never experienced. you cannot blame an alcohoic for their crazy actions while drunk any more than you can blame someone who is allergic to peanuts for having an anaphylactic reaction after consuming peanuts. HOWEVER, if someone who was allergic to peanuts kept coming over to your house and eating from your jar of peanuts, falling down on the floor turning blue and necesitating you to call 911 and have the ambulance come, etc. you'd get pretty tired of inviting that person over for your dinner parties! that is the level at which personal responsibility really needs to be taken.

i am not bagging on 1228. we are all here to learn radical self-responsibility, and there are many paths that lead us there. our challenges may look different, but that is the key, and its universal. for me, it was depression... depression and mental illness run in my family, its likely that my brain chemistry is impaired and that is the "reason" that i have struggled so much with depression in my life. and for a long time that was the end of the story with me, that was all there was to say on the subject, i didn't take it any deeper then that. and i relied on that as an excuse/reason as to why i would get depressed, and also why it was so hard for me to get out of it. but it wasn't until i had that big "AHA" moment where i realized "oh my god, i've been acting like such a victim my whole life!!!!" and took total responsibility at every level of my life for my actions, thought processes, health and wellbeing that i got free of it. i'm out of the cycle now, i know with certainty that i will never experience depression again in my lifetime. same brain, same impaired brian chemistry, different life. totally possible. in fact its what we were meant to experience, so the alcoholism, the depression, whatever it is -- a total blessing. the path that leads to freedom. A GIFT. whether we squander it or reap the benefits is up to us.

Hi, I am not in a good place right now with this going on.
Feel like I need to talk to someone but don't know how to go about it.
Not comfortable with what I say being posted for all to see. A very personal
feeling. so I guess I will keep reading what is on here. Been through worse in my life. Glad for this site though, and all of you.
Samhein

its debbie, right? hi debbie. i hear you. good for you for persuing raw foods and taking care of yourself in such a deep and profound way. raw foods for me was the first time i ever felt self-nourishing, you know what i mean? i used to be a fabulous cook, loved to cook for my friends and family, throw lots of dinner parties, etc. i used food as a way to show love to others, but i never showed that same love to myself. now i rarely "uncook" for other people, except my daughter (age 5). almost everything i take the time to make is suited to MY tastes, MY bodily needs, MY health, etc. it feels very "selfish in a good way". and healing to take care of yourself at that level. we gotta put the oxygen masks our ourselves before we can be of any help to anyone else.

i found al anon to be a great resource for learning how to deal with an alcoholic. a support group of amazing people who really understand. plus you learn something really valuable -- how to keep the focus of your life entirely on YOU and your happiness, your goals, your health, your wellbeing, etc. regardless of what crazy drama the alcoholic is injecting into your life.

best regards to you, and good luck!

thank you for the encourging words. As a matter of fact,I was in al-anon about 10 years ago. I was married to an alcoholic. I even ran the meetings for a while. It did help a lot. I think I even have my handbook yet. I am going to dig it out and read it again. As for my relationship, well this is the second go round with him. I left the first time because I was afraid of him. Two years ago. It had gotten really abusive. We got back together, though not living together. It's a long distance relationship now.
I have been a vegetarian for over 20 years, and am happy that he introduced the raw diet to me and that I have met so many nice people here. I am going to keep going and will bring myself through the healing process.
I am also reading a book called "The Secret". It's an amazing book and is helping tremendously. Thank you again.......
Debbie

hi debbie

wish i knew what to say to u but i really don't

i just wish for your happiness

that's all