I want to apologize to the community for my posts last night.
I am not in a good place right now.
I will get help.

Debbie,if you read this,you mean more to me than anyone in the world.

I love you.

Brian

No worries. Maybe you can ask a mod to delete those bizarre things posted. Not sure what's going on with you, but it might be best to get out and get some fresh air as opposd to sitting on computer? Good luck.

I would say that no apology required although it's nice to know you are ok and on some level better than last night. Don't be hard on yourself..what you did was come to a place to call out your pain and you were heard.

Love,
Prism

Yes. The people here are supportive...as I am....but try to take responsibility and NOT make posts of porn and pizza. It just makes life easier for the vegan folks...that like to CHOOSE their porn.

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

This board is a great place with great people. Please stick around.

Because I am so often inarticulate, I usually point others toward words more cogent than mine. To you, my friend, I offer this:

[www.opendharma.org]

I hope this helps.

Lee


[www.dhamma.org]

davidzanemason Wrote:
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It just makes life easier
> for the vegan folks...that like to CHOOSE their
> porn.
>
> -David Z. Mason


haha.
I prefer pineapples and carrots, thanks!

Thanks for the apology, we all have bad times, hope you get through them. Is there anything we can do to support you?

Brian,
Nice to see that everyone here has accepted you apology. Sorry it's a little hard for me to do that. I know you better,don't I. I won't get into anything here though. Just want you to know that I am eating almost totally raw now and I feel a lot better.
Might I suggest AA again and a sponsor.
this is not the first time, nor will it be the last until you except help.
Debbie

Apology accepted. Congratulations on making the apology as that shows character.
Stick around and hopefully we can all learn together.

As had been said over and over, raw food is not a cure-all. The caliber and content of yesterday's posts were very disconcerting, disturbing and offensive, definitely an indication that major assistance is needed to address something.

The good thing is that you acknowledged the need for external intervention and hopefully you will carry through with it. Some of the posts seemed like they were a cry for help, others well...

The sooner you get started the better. And while venting can be helpful to an extent, pleaseee...if there's a next time of whatever triggered it, limit what you choose to post on a board that caters to the general public, including young people.

Thank you.

i was freaked out when i read your posts, glad you're better...

If you can't control your posts, I would also suggest getting away from the computer and getting some fresh air. It's easy to apologize, it's harder to *do* the actions that lead to change. But they can be done.

Hey man it's all right. Nobody's perfect. You should hear about some of the stuff I pulled back in my drinking days. Ouch. Your apology, as someone previously mentioned, says much of your character. This whole thing reminds me of a movie I saw last night called "Into the Wild." The one about the kid that chucks it all in to go adventuring through N. America? There's this scene where he's talking to his buddy, and his buddy tells him that to forgive is to love, and to love is to have God's light shine on you. If all I have to do is forgive you to have God's light shine on me, then you can count me in! I do know from personal experience that the tail end of a long PA winter can be a struggle, especially if you throw in some real life personal trauma to go along with all that dreariness and cold. Hang tight. I know a little warm sunshine on your face won't solve everything, but it'll be there soon and it WILL make things better. It always does.

what on earth are all u guys talking about?

i must have missed something

i never read any strange posts that contained porn and pizza

the two don't even seem to go together > :

Derek Wrote:
> If all I have to do is forgive you to have God's light shine on
> me, then you can count me in!

Derek, you rock!

Porn & pizza?? I really must read more of these threads, I'm missing out on the good stuff.

Was it gay porn or straight porn?



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Lessee...straight porn...beer...and french bread pizza...as I recall.

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

keystone beer. that was the really offensive part IMO.

LOL

hmm.... well, i didn't get the thread either but FRENCH bread pizza ( and it was probably cooked too)

seems dangerously offensive

geeez...

Wow.
That really isnt funny.
Its that beer that might have cost me the love of my life.
If anyone here knows of ANYONE who is contemplating taking that first drink,please tell to not do it.It will be the single biggest mistake in their life.
Brian

Raw1228 Wrote:
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> Its that beer that might have cost me the love of
> my life.


Way to take responsibility for your actions.

Maui: I haven't had beer since the old days...but I would HAVE to agree with you.

-David Z. Mason

WWW.RawFoodFarm.com

la_veronique Wrote:
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> hmm.... well, i didn't get the thread either but
> FRENCH bread pizza ( and it was probably cooked
> too)

worse then that LaV. it was frozen!

1228, take our teasing it in the spirit it was meant, good naturedley and a way for our community to sort of blow off steam and destress around the issue. you sent us on a pretty wild ride. and UL is right, it not the beer that is wreaking havoc in your life. that's the tool, but yours is the hand that wields it. and you are in total control, you just don't know it yet. and many people who are not alcoholics can take that first drink of liquor and not have it affect them, so don't worry about warning everyone about the evils of alcohol. granted its not healthy for anyone, but it doesn't cause most people to act terribly out of character. its not a mistake to be an alcoholic, but it would be a mistake to find out you are an alcoholic and continue drinking. just the same way it would be a mistake to find out that you are allergic to peanuts and sit down to a great big PB&J.

if you do decide to accept responsibility for your alcoholism and travel the road to recovery, there might come a day when you are ACTUALLY THANKFUL to the alcoholism for spurring your emotional and spiritual growth. isn't that amazing? far from being the worst mistake you ever made, you might consider it the best thing that ever happened to you. how's that for a head trip? i hope you make it there.

best regards!

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Posted by: Raw1228 (IP Logged)
Date: March 31, 2008 01:38PM

If anyone here knows of ANYONE who is contemplating taking that first drink,please tell to not do it.It will be the single biggest mistake in their life.

Sounds like you learned something.
Theres an old saying that goes like this "its not what happens to a person that matters but what the person does with what happens that counts". Just guard against a first sip of alcohol and your free from all its effects.

EZ rider

that is a very deep quote
and very beautiful too

its so true

its what u do with what happens that really counts and matters
anyhow... hey raw 1228

i don't really know what happened so



hope u are feeling better



cheers

Brian/1228:

The recent event, although it had as a consequence a dear price to pay, could have been a whole lot worse. Instead of getting behind a computer keyboard with the tirade you put on, you could have gotten behind a wheel or had access to a weapon. While you really ticked us off, imagine the impact if you were driving and caused a crash or used the weapon to maim or kill someone. All the apology to a judge, the victim and/or loved ones making funeral arrangements would not be able to turn things around.

Yes you are grieving the loss of someone you seem to love dearly, but at least you are still around to prove to yourself and to her that this event served as the impetus to make a new start. Maybe if she didn't make that move, as embarassing as posting the craziness turned out to be, it would not have been as strong a motivating factor to make a change. Had she stayed, it would have been just a slap on the wrist. Now it's a wake up call--loud and clear, so view it as a blessing in disguise.

Whether or not you win her back is not the issue right now, the main thing is you are privileged to have a new day and a new chance to get help and make a change. Not all people who have gotten drunk and behaved irresponsibly have had a second chance. Don't be a fool, and resolve to yourself to make this stumbling block serve as a stepping stone.

Wishing you vibrant health

I wasn't angry or offended. I was concerned.

As for the "porn" ... I see worse everyday up close and in person at work. When I saw the photos, I thought, I am so grateful I don't have to eat that crap any more.


"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion."

Dalai Lama

Hey Maui Butterfly. Thanks for the sweet words.

Pistachio,
Very good message!
And I wouldnt want to "win" her back.
I want to get better so we could have a future.
Brian