hello from sunny south o f france
just wishing you gals happy cruising
all is well so far on my raw path!!

HI Debbie!!

GLAD YOU ARE doing well!
i had some orange juice
fresh squeezed
from someone's orange tree
that was the BEST orange juice i ever had

Love the Gandhi quote, Veronique. I'm on day 4 of a water fast, and I'm having similar experiences. Fasting is a wonderful gateway into the inner realms, and the great side effect is that it heals your body and makes you more grounded in the material world at the same time.

Thank you for keeping us posted on your progress. ;-)

Sharrhan:


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end uv day 4

sharhann

i'm glad u like the ghandi quote
i do too
such a stunning thing for him to have said
i'm looking for spiritual guidance
and other sorts of guidance
i figure i needed a new pair of eyes
and not the ones that are above my nose either ( hee hee)

feeling that anything is possible
also feeling that its all up to me
which was always the truth

but more so now
than ever

see u !

day 5

saw the movie "Conversations With God"

i thought to myself
geeeeeeeezzz. doesn't EVERYone have conversations with God?

seemed normal to me
then again
... won't get into it

felt a lot of clarity today
bought more celery
had some more parsley

i miss certain people in my life
that's what i felt today
i really miss them

soul connections with others are sacred

soul connection to myself is sacred

tis what my journey is
the entire ocean
stormy weather whatnot
here i am

the GREENPEACH has been bitten
but it ain't been entirely consumed

sailing on
my joyful mateys

i know you're out there somewhere

hugs and smiles

I'm here! I'm watching.

day 6

finally got around to getting the dandelion greens
excited about juicing it with the celery
did something i've been putting off for couple of weeks
and then did it
felt good

hey carrie!
hows it going helmster!!

day 7

too much garlic
thought it would give it a kick
well it kicked me, alright!

but i'm feeling groovy
oh yeah, too much lemon too

not sure, maybe i was half asleep
while i was squeezin the lemon and juicin the garlic



i didn't want to make fun of that guy who wrote
Conversations With God

so i'm sorry if i did

but anyhow

it just seems like if i just take a dip into the river
it just guides me along

i have given you a light
the light must be believed in with everything you have
focus on it
when everything else is dark
the light will renew over and over again

this is what i heard
just now


light is my only weapon
i use it

hello!
i'm still around lurking in the waters!
but it's fine, i'm still 100 percent raw; higher veg lower fruit less nuts etc lots less ibs type symptoms so i'm very pleased, glad to see your still on board!
cruise on!

day 8

the sun is rising
debbie is having fun with the bounty of the earth
everything is well

glad to hear things are well for yoU!!! keep up the awesome work...congrats on day 8 for you!!
love sachelle
xoxoxoxoxoxox

day 9

i had a weird idea of juicing mushrooms as i passed the mushroom aisle
then i thought better of it

wonder why i thought that
there was a shadow
and it strode by me
i watched it
watched it with my own pair of eyes
two eyes i looked straight at it
whereas before i averted my gaze

i stared at the shadow
and my gaze was even
the shadow finally stood still
and stared back at me

i then had an opportunity
to shake its hands

and in doing so
just the feintest shimmer
arose
from this obscure being

and i had
just the slightest
awareness
that this small speck of
effulsion

was the beginning
of something grand

this is what i felt today
and it is going to reveal itself even more
i just wait and see
it all unfolds
perfectly

Day 1 ( another joyful start )

I took a hiatus from fasting and I had fun
went to a few event- parties too
its funny
i have this thing wired down where i always 'volunteer" to bring some food
and it always ends up being a yummy salad
sometimes i don't even ask the host
i just bring it so i can have something to eat
its a trick that always works
and people were asking me if i made the dressing because they'd never had that type of dressing before

there was another woman who had brought a salad
it was spring mix but she had poured this white store bought dressing straight from a bottle over each plate
i knew her intentions were good and

i thought it was nice of her to bring a salad
i mean, its nice when anyone brings something like fruit or salad to a party instead of just me

another person brought a box of fruit and everything else was cooked which i am so used to seeing at parties so it didn't even phase me


anyways, the people were nice
i felt like maybe this is what heaven is like because everyone's spirit was filled with goodness
i just felt happy at the party
i saw some familiar faces

when i left, i felt that i was lucky
that there were these people that exist
and they have a goal to better the world

i mean, at first, i felt just slightly uneasy
because even though i knew some of the people
i didn't know most of them

but then, i just moseyed over to talk to a guy that i did know
and , as usual, he was his incredibly light filled self
always trying to help others
he was getting all the chairs arranged and folding the fold up tables up

and just helping out with the microphones and sound systems
i notice that he does this pretty consistently

just kind of humbly being of service to others
that just kind of blows me away
i mean, every time i see that it blows me away

he just kind of stays in the background
but to me, he just glows really brightly

and he seems really happy
and i'm wondering if its because he is always helping out in small ( but to me) big ways

i noticed another guy who was changing the paper towel thing in the WOMEN's restroom

he was just volunteering to do it
no one told him to do it
he just thought it needed to be done, and he did it
and he had a really great attitude about it too

am i just IMAGINING? or is it that everywhere i go
i see people doing good things for others

maybe it is my imagination
but i don't think so

i think its an epidemic!
maybe i should do something good for others
i can't think right now what that would be exactly ( ha ha)

but i'm sure i can come up with SOME thing
i mean.. hmmm... well, that's a challenge

what small skill do i have that i could offer?
that i would be WILLING to offer?

that's a tough one
the willingness

or maybe i'm just too hard on myself
because i'm helpful by nature
and i do help others

but i always seem to be 'measuring" my actions and deciding whether or not i should do something

the willingness has to be there
and sometimes its not there

i'm not ashamed about that
its good to know where i stand instead of deluding myself

i wonder sometimes, if those people that just volunteer to do things for others
is just like me
they really don't want to do it
but they feel that , somehow, they have to get outside of themselves

and overcome whatever resentments they may have had prior
for being taken advantage of

i mean, its a really delicate thing
because if someone takes advantage of my kindness
whose fault was that?
mine

and if i decide to do something for someone, be of service
and then it is abused, who made the decision in the first place?

me

so, i guess, its just a matter of living and learning
and realizing that everyone is faced with these decisions and maybe struggle with the same kinds of issues

i usually don't listen to country radio
but it just so happens that when i was driving there was nothing else to listen to and all the other stations wwere like white noise, static y
and so this country music came along


and i thought " oh heck, why not? the mandolin, or violin sounded pretty good
so i did

and this woman was singing a song about angel wings
and how this mother was a "hero to her daughter"

and the 20 plus years she spent forgoing her own dreams being a waitress, taxi driver, etc. so that her daughter could have 'angel wings"

i didn't know what to think about that
i had such mixed feelings

it was just a song
but it hit pretty deep

and i cried a little too

i mean, people do make tremendous sacrifices EVERY day
and how does it feel to forgo one's own dream in order to make another person's dream come true

is it truly possible to do that without resentment?
i don't know
there is this song "lose your dreams and lose your mind"

so, i don't know.. but i see it happening, all the time
and it makes me wonder

why aren't these people getting Oscar Awards for what they do?
because its a heck of a lot more difficult to constantly be swallowing ones pride in order to see someone else flourish

service and sacrifice... it really is an epidemic
there is so much goodness in the world

the planet is filled with saints

living breathing, flesh and blood saints
just a parent sacrificing to get some food on the table

especially single parents
that 's gotta be tremendously tough
especially if they had kids really young and had no support system and had to give up a lot of things

but i live in this world
this world that is filled with people who do what is right and good even if it hurts them

i think everyone is spiritual
that's all i see
spirit in action

everywhere i go
people doing herculean things

i drank some water this morning
i already made my green juice yesterday
though i like it fresh
oh well

can't waste it

its going to be an incredibly dynamic day today
full throttle

every moment, every second is going to count
i have a specific goal
and i need to focus on it completely
its a good time to start the fasting

cuz it always helps me to focus
when i need to get a lot done

in addition to the material goal
i think my other goal is to do away with complaining
and be grateful that i am able to do this

no more " i got too much stuff to do! when's it every going to end!"

and change it more towards " Wow! i can't believe that i have this opportunity to take part in such a thing. This is exciting"

i live in exciting times
it is my goal to make myself strong within
so that i am not so easily swayed by the five thousand external winds
that have been famous for putting a person off kilter

i wonder what it would be like to not be swayed by things like
temptation, approval, fortune, failure, slander, happiness, sadness

to just take note of it and continue on with one's mission

instead of just bending back and forth in the wind
never steady
always in a storm

i wonder what peace tastes like

does it have a flavor?
yes
it does

and it tastes good

i've had just the tiniest smidgen of it

anything is possible
how could it not be?

i've always known that
even as a child

curious, i just started green juice fasting w/ an apple in each juice and one cocounut juice 4-5 X a week. WHAT WAS YOUR STARING WEIGHT? AND WEIGHT DURING AND AFTER THE JUICE FAST?????? I'm doing it to get very healthy. I want to be 80 and stiil live an amazing life. I want that glow & shed the weight as well, but i don't know how long i'll last on green juice. I am used to 10 days of fruitjuice fasts mix w vegetable. I need to get rid of some weight quickly as well due to a fact i gained 20 lbs in a month and 1/2.

how much weight have you lost????

benetgirl,

you ask this because it means a great deal to you
obviously
and i can respect that
so if i give you a number
you're going to try to find meaning in it for yourself
and make comparisons
this is only natural

but i'm not going to entertain that
and i will tell you why

i've never had a weight problem before
probably because i've always been very athletic
and have a fast metabolism
if i do lose weight during a fast
i try to stabilize it afterwards
my reasons for fasting is thus very different from yours
though i can appreciate anyone's intention for fasting


i have however had a lot of people project their own weight or health issues onto me
so i've had years of experiencing other people's projected fantasies ( when i say "fantasy" i mean, that , subconsciously, people seem to think that my state of being really has anything to do with them)
and i've , in the past, answered a lot of questions regarding health, fitness, weight etc.
but the questions would always seem endless
and none of the people that asked me questions
ever seemed to be satisfied unless they themselves simply took the plunge and found out the answers for themselves
i guess, it is because, in the end
no matter what my state of health was
it really had nothing to do with me
it was all about them
that's okay
anyone has freedom to ask whatever question they want , no biggie
but i've already stated in my first post that i won't be answering questions
regarding my own fast and i would like to honor my own promise that i made to myself
because this time is strictly for me
which i've also stated in my first post


i do this not only out of respect for myself
but ultimately out of respect for other people as well
because i feel that they are their own best gurus, boss, advisor etc.
i can't HELP but to think this after years of experiencing what i have
live and learn
that is my motto
i've learned that none of the Q and A really helped other people
the best that people can do is just experiment for themselves
there is already a monumental oceanic cauldron of information out there regarding raw foods/fasting etc.
books written by medical doctors, naturopathic doctors, raw gurus, personal anecdotes etc etc
and they are all seemingly contradictory
and this will never change
that much i can guarantee ( there is not much else that i can guarantee so i won't even try)

the ultimate goal is for each person to find their own truth
i hope you find yours

dang beautiful videos
woweeeee!

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i'd like to say that i took these videos
but i sure as heck didn't
amaaazing!

ended day with water and more green juice
i feel inspired

Day 2

This day went miraculously well
actually, i didn't even think about the fasting
at all
because i was frantically trying to get something done
and i did it
though i think i could have done a better job
no matter, did my best
caught up on some sleep
because had zero rest the night before
trying to prepare
i feel tremendous right now
and i don't think it has anything to do with the fast ( well, maybe that too)
but that i overcame something that i was afraid of doing
and that meant a big deal to me

it always does
whoooo hoooooo!
i'm drinking some water right now

i think i'll make the green juice fresh
for some reason i don't feel like drinking up the green juice i made from yesterday

but i don't want to waste it either

i'm thinking of trying to get that book that joel grey mentioned in his
OT post
about "The Power of One"
about a guy who tries to overcome racism and his sense of difference
think its supposed to take place in south africa
oo i better check the post again so i don't get it wrong

but
it seems like it would be a good book
been a while since i've wrapped my head around a 'really" good book
don't know
i just get the feeling that it would be a good book
maybe even a "great" book
won't know til i read the first chapter , perhaps



hmmmm... i wonder if it is in the library
i will have to check on that

funny thing how
when i fast
other things become more interesting

go figure
hee hee
today was one doozer of a powerful day
for me

i just woke up from a MUCH needed nap
and i feel great
life is surprising to me
never know what curve balls it will through
but i got my player's mitt
and i feel like getting to second base
instead of being waaaaay out in center field

cuz i'm less afraid now
of what things will happen

more anticipating
how to play and have fun
life moves sooo fast

a part of me likes it that way
strange but true

day 3

waking up early this morning
that always feels great
this day has a lot of promise
that's it
gonna throw out remnants of yesterday's juice
and make it fresh

maybe i'll water the grass with it
i'll try and measure it out better next time
wonder why i keep gravitating to water more often

hey debbie, dynamiteroyalty... greenpeach captn' john

if yer out there
drop a line and say hello

this peach has foot imprints
from where u were

say hello to the peach
its still sailing

sparkey says hello

>>maybe i should do something good for others
i can't think right now what that would be exactly ( ha ha)

but i'm sure i can come up with SOME thing
i mean.. hmmm... well, that's a challenge

what small skill do i have that i could offer? <<


Thanks for being here!

ha ha dulset

my small skill is that i know how to juggle TWO ( that's righttt!) TWOOOO!!
oranges with TWO of my hands..
yep

this day started out weird during the later morning
but now its getting better
sometimes, just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other
then the engine starts purring
and everything clicks together
strange how that works

hmmmmmmm....

day 24 ( start of)

this is going to be the best of all days
wow
got quite a line up
if this isn't the day to light up all days
i don't know what is
i see a lot of good things happening today
if i have the guts to go after them
i'm gonna go for it

hi!!
fair play to you for being still here!!
i'm still lurking, a bit on and off but pretty much committed to 100% (with odd lapse, but don't give myself greif about it) i'm accepting that here it is so difficult when out with people to be vegetarian let alone raw vegan i make expceptions and eat cooked vegan occasionally but at home try my hardest to make raw the basis of my diet.
so what do you feel you have gained so far from this fast? i would love to know (for futre reference!!)
good luck with remaining days!

OOOPS it should have said Day 4 on previous post but
now it is

Day 1 ( again.. yep.. ha ha ha ha!!)

I went to a party yesterday
i had a REALLY great time

but i ate some fruit
i also ate some nuts cuz it was raw

there was TONS of beer at the party
but not too many people were drinking

the funny thing is
i know the guy whose birthday it was
and he didn't drink a single drop
and of course, neither did i ( can't stand that stuff... blech)

i think his eyes popped out
when he saw how many alcoholic beverages were brought as 'gifts' for him

he just kind of looked at those bottles
said "thanks"
and just ignored them ( it was really funny
i think they know that he doesn't drink
but they were trying to get him drunk anyways
and he didn't fall for it
people are funny, how they treat each other

hee hee


anyhow... the people at the party were awesome people
i laughed a lot and felt happy

i'm really glad that i went
because i had sort of not been wanting to go
but i thought to myself "this is TOO important . you MUST go"

and i am SOO glad that i did

the music made me laugh
i'm too embarrassed to even say what kind of music they played

but anyhow

oh yeah. another funny thing was that no one was watching the television
but there was this GINORMOUS screen that was above the living room
and it was on ALL the time
but no one paid attention to it

come to think of it
no one paid much attention to the food either

they just paid attention to each other
as should be

it was kind of low key
like there was this familiarity and deep bond
between everyone in the room

i felt it
and i felt kind of healed
after i left the party

like no one had to say much to each other
just shoot the breeze
and talk about nothing much, really

and it was like
it didn't matter what u said
or what anyone did there

cuz they all knew each other

and everything was cool

oh yeah debster debbsies

your baaaaacccKKKKK yeah!

i am really proud of you for how you are faring
i think you are doing great
i'm also happy that you went out and spent time with friends
that is so important

i'm the queen of my life
and you're the queen of your life

so we each get to call the shots in our own lives
so why give yourself "grief"?

we do the best we can
and the happier we are
the more healthier we become, anyhow

its not just food
its everything else that goes along with life
that configures into our state of well being
which is what this is all about

anyhow
as far as what i'm gaining from the fast ? ( on the days that i DID fast.. hee hee)

well, i totally don't regret going to the party and eating some food

but its good to be back on it again

so far, on the days that i fasted
and just the process itself whatever it is

it gives me hope
it is really a spiritual experience for me
i mean, of course, i always feel better physically

but mostly i do it when i need "direction"
like MAJORLY

you know?
like when i have to make certain decisions as to where i want to go in life
or when i need to have a new paradigm

or when i need help emotionally

fasting has a way of bringing to light the 'blind spots" in my soul

like remember that post that Ghandi said about how fasting is like getting eyes for the soul?

like that is how i feel like it is

Esther is a character in the bible
whom , faced with the dilemma that her husband was going to kill a lot of people
decided to fast

and in doing so, she gained confidence and poise to dissuade the king
and she prevented a massacre from occurring

okay, so i'm not in her position
but it doesn't matter

some people kill themselves slowly but surely with their own thoughts
and well.. sometimes
my thoughts are less than optimal

and so to prevent my mind from TOTALLY being taken over by the delusions and illusions of this world ( which it is privy to, at times)

that is when a fasting is in order
and its really great
because its a gift that i don't have to be rich or smart or privileged to give to myself

its just there for the taking

so, i started out this fast
when all the brainwashing of this world
kept encroaching my mind
and it was seeping into my soul

and , even though, i didn't believe a word of it
my emotions were being affected

so, i knew i was in trouble
so that is why i embarked on this

and even though, i've taken a few breaks along the way

its been very positive overall

and like i said
it allows me to take a BREAK from what the world says

and give me "new eyes" so to speak

which is what i really want

peace
i just want peace

is that too much to ask for( hee hee)

oh yeah, and i want happiness

a happiness that is a well spring from within
that is not determined from all the trappings that are external to me

that's also another goal

its all very complex
yeah, sure
anyone can argue to the contrary

but on the other hand
its really very simple

so there u go
yes, i feel inarticulate right now

but that's the best way i can explain things

sometimes i can explain things
other times i can't

right now, i'm not explaining things very well

but this is the best excuse i can come up with for fasting

cuz its the truth

Hmm that is crazy about the party and the birthday guy lol...can't believe people WELL I CAN haha.....you are so determined no matter what if you eat some fruit or nuts or veggies you just pick right back up and do your thing that is soo great...you are doing so wonderful treating your body well so just keep on keeping on and you will find your end sometimes and enjoy the ride on the way there....
love sachelle
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

thanks sachelle
yeah. that was pretty hilarious about what they were trying to do to the birthday boy

he just looked at all those bottles that were in pretty fancy gift wraps
there was this one bottle that has this beautiful gauze that was lavender coloring and all i could think was

" that lavender gauze would make a REALLY pretty dress for me ha ha ha!

and here they were using that beautiful fabric that was really nice and using it as ethyl alcohol wrapping

go figure

haha yeah no kidding...i guess even though i am 22 i think there was a time when i thought alcohol was a great gift but to people whoi knew drank it...now i can't touch the stuff and would never think of purchasing it for someone else...justl ike i wouldn't buy then a visit to dr. jack kavorkean (however you spelled that)
haha well have a great day and keep up your awesome work
love sachelle
xoxoxoxoxoxox

sachelle


not sure either
but i thinnk it was kevorkian?
what ever
dr. death
he did have a sense of justice, dignity and mercy though
which is what i am impressed by
wonder how he is doing?

i wish him well
people shouldn't have to have such undignified, violent ways of dying
if they are suffering

and i don't believe in keeping people alive by machines, and tubes, and wires and whatnot if their OWN belief system was NO

that they want to pass into the other side in a more respectable graceful
manner

i think they should have a choice

anyways aside from such dark matters

which luckily i've never had to deal with

i had a weird day today

i felt soooo happpy and good this morning

and then, i was with some people

and everything was still good

and then, somewhere during that time
things just switched

and i felt like out of touch and lost and disconnected

so i left

and it made me feel really like
awful

then i felt better again waaaaaaaay later
like later during the evening

my celery juice still tasted like celery

i felt a lot of anger
which is good

i mean, its good that i just let myself feel that
but it was pretty intense

i don't worry about why or how or whatever

i just know its emotions

but maaaaan.. when i'm in it, i'm IN it!

i had an issue with someone
and i had to let it go

and... so... just focus on myself more

i have ZERO control over other people

won't even try
ridiculous to even try to change others

forget it ( NOT my thaaaang. ya know?)

anyhoo.... i feel better now

tomorrow will be better too

i loaded up on buying more veggies

all these pretty greenz in my fridge

made me feel good

they are my friends
when some of my friends get weird on me

whatever

like i said

none of my business what they do

its their life

and mine is mine

your doing really well sachelle

i'm so proud of you



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day 2

i see only light
everywhere
now

that is the way
it is
truth

emblazoned inside of me
nowhere else to go
but towards that light now

the light within
within

nothing else to do
but walk through the light
within within

nothing else to happen
but experience the light
without
without

what will happen when the darkness is gone?
there will just be more light

what about the moon though?
doesn't it need the night to shine more brightly?

then i focus on a different thing
a different star
that will shine even brighter in the day time

HAHHAHAHAHAH

this is how i feel right now
don't care about anything else that i have heard so far

this is what i believe right now
that light is everything

mmmmmm yeah!

the tale of the star that shines more brightly during the day

once upon a time there was a star
and the star truly believed that it was only during the night that it shone more brightly
all the other stars told it so
so it believed believed

the entire world told it so so it believed believed
that the night
that suffering
was necessary

until a crazy girl called veronique
went up to the star and said

" you shall shine more brightly in the sun the sun"

you shall shine more brightly even more brighter during the day time
when the sun is out

and u will combine with the rays of the sun

and there will be more light
more brightness

and the star said ' i believe"

and the star is still shining more brightly

cuz i told it so

so it believed

cuz i believe