People ask me how much I eat each day to be as fit, slim and healthy as I am.

Here is a vid about it.
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Wish I could get watermelons like that here in the UK. Just out of interest how much does a watermelon like that cost? We can get small watermelons but I have NEVER even seen an organic one!!

I can remember that exact melon, sometimes its 5 $AUS a kg. We spend up to a 1000$ a week on fruit for us 2.

wow - what d'you do - rob a bank

$1000 a week on fruit??

How might those of us on a humbler budget succeed??

yes, definitely an issue. also when having considered the costs if or when health gets damaged from cooked and non vegan food.
it's not something that joins the people. raw vegan diet becoming popular means health to the rich! that can't be the goal. raw foodists have got to become political about it..



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I agree; we've got to become political about it! But I don't think I spend more on a raw vegan diet. I think I may spend less, actually. I have no idea how Durianrider spends $1000 a week on fruit. Well, I guess it's because he's a serious athlete. I exercise moderately, but I don't run marathons or anything, and I get so much nutrition per unit with my organic raw food (including tons of fruit)... it's certainly cheaper than going out to eat regularly, as many people do. I sure wish organics were cheaper, however.

The organic watermelon I had recently was vile, vile I tell you! Watermelon is a low pesticide crop, so buy conventional at the farmers market for three bucks and enjoy! I think duranrider's costs might come from the addition of dates and things, plus the volumes he eats don't compare to most of our nutrition needs. I am not a marathoner, so 2500-3000 calories would kill me.

According to Davis and Melina, in Becoming Raw, the average caloric intake needs for a sedentary or moderately active woman are 1800 to 2000 calories and 2400 to 2600 calories for a moderately active man. p.76 The average raw vegan caloric intake across all studies was 1700. p.77 Takes a lot less money to maintain 1700 to 2400 than 3000+. fwiw.



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maintenance calories are different depending on age/weight really.

But doesnt sound too far off.

$1,000 a week? I spend less than that US a month on food for one.

I spend that much in 5 months >.< lately theres been good sales too, best ive ever seen here since I was a small child, so ive had ALLOT of fruit... (10lbs of peaches just cost me $5, never seen peaches that cheap in my life!)

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10 pounds of peaches for five bucks! I wish I could find deals like that. Well, at least I found cheap apricots at the farmers' market. Love apricots...

they are really hard peaches, but actually have really amazing flavor, Im thinking some peach/pineapple sorbet may be in order...mmmmm....

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Hey its a lot more expensive in Australia!

You crew are so lucky living in the US/Canda/Europe..

I dont really care how much the fruit costs cos I have different priorities than I used to. I no longer see my body as a 'discount body'. I put in the best and forget the rest. I do look for bargains but if bargains aint around, I remind myself that every dollar I spend is a vote for what I believe...

Thanks, Mean One, for quoting from 'Becoming Raw' re calorie intake.

Their calorie figures make sense to me. One area in which I depart from other high-fruiters is on calorie intake. Some high-fruiters appear to think it impossible to thrive on less than 2500-3000 calories upwards (for a woman). My experience after three and a half years of raw is that this simply isn't true, or at least not true when you've been raw for a while.

Calorie-counting was part of my cooked life, and I'd never bothered to count them on raw, but recently I did tot up a day's calories and it came to 1800. That was on a day that included one and a half hours of hot yoga.

I'd say that was a typical day, so 1800 would be my average. If I stuff in any more than that, I usually feel bloated, uncomfortable and don't sleep well.

I feel very good on that, have never been ill since going raw, and have never craved cooked food, difficult though that may be for some to believe.

I take issue with durianrider i'm afraid. You simply can't spend what you haven't got. I don't treat my body as a 'discount' body.

Although my eating is a priority in terms of how I spend my money so are my children and my other day to day living expenses.

For someone on a low income those comments are a little hard to deal with and seem ignorant and arrogant. (no offence meant)

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> I take issue with durianrider i'm afraid. You
> simply can't spend what you haven't got. I don't
> treat my body as a 'discount' body.
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> Although my eating is a priority in terms of how I
> spend my money so are my children and my other day
> to day living expenses.
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> For someone on a low income those comments are a
> little hard to deal with and seem ignorant and
> arrogant. (no offence meant)

I agree with you but I can't take the guy seriously. If the money isn't there, it's not there. $1,000 a week? There are months I don't even make $1,000 a month nevermind able to spend it a week. I'm sure it's great to have an easy life.

i have to say..nobody has ever refereed to me as a discount before.

Im pretty sure most tropical fruits are more expensive in the US or canada, as they cant be grown in most parts of the U.S., and pretty much no part of canada...My friend sam was in australia from august of 2008 tll august of 2009, and he said fresh fruit was the cheapest he had ever seen it in his life, he DID say they had some CRAZY taxes while eating out, I cant remember all he said about the taxes, I think there was like some super high extra charge for alcohol, and they even let you bring your own, but you where still charged that tax or something for drinking it there, and a pizza place basically charged him some crazy extra amount for eating there on a certain day... is that normal throughout the country?

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Can I handle the seasons of my life?

In OZ the gratuity, or tip, is included in the bill so waiters don't get stiffed by cheap aholes who don't feel they need to pay for the luxury of having a servant for the duration of their meal .

A great way to afford fresh raw produce in the spring, summer and fall is to take advantage of the abundance of free stuff growing wild. A good guide book with full colour plates of the leaves, nuts and fruits growing in your area is invaluable. These are often nutritionally dense foods, superiour to super market produce by far. Many can be frozen or dried for use in the off season.

$1000 a week on food is really high for us. We 3 spend $400/month which is what I can afford. It's not like I'm living in a mansion and spending of frivolities either, diet is a priority for me. I mean, heck, I make lots of our clothes and fabric things we need out of other old fabric! $1000 a month... I Wish!

My friend had to pay $25 for a single small pizza listed as $10 and 1 beer for $2...a 100% tip plus tax?lol...also, no waiter...sooo cashier tip?

yeah, I harvest the hell out of the local blackberries during their time of the year...mountain berries,salmon berries, thimble berries and huckleberries too...no nuts local to my area, some pine trees, illegal to harvest the seeds wild though as the set up you need to do so en-mass can harm animals potentially (giant plastic sheet under tree?eh...whatever...lol) and collecting them from the cones is more work than you get from then nutrition wise,LOL... spruce tip tea is wonderful, not raw though, but im ok with that, I dont want to eat raw spruce... but the massively high vitamin C (about 10 times the amount in an orange per cup on average.) maks it useful, plus delicious... dandelions seem actually rather sparse around here, mostly hawkweed out here apparently...

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?