Well, this is my attempt at an allusion to the parable of the prodigal son.

I don't know if you heard this, but ex-raw ex-vegan Paul Nison, who was at one time a raw vegan for 15 years, has returned to the fold. Paul decided that his health issues had nothing to do with eating only raw foods or eating only plant foods, and has changed his diet to a raw vegan diet.

Welcome back Paul.

What health issues was Paul having out of interest?

I don't know. But he concluded that his health issues were cleared up by not eating late at night and sticking to his Daylight diet. He felt that before he was overeating on raw foods.

I've always liked Paul Nison regardless. He is a great speaker.

Eat up the fruit, Paul.

thats good to hear

For some strange reason, "Amazing Grace" is playing in my head...

Well, that's interesting. Good for him. That late night eating is a horrible thing.

He is a good speaker.
Seen him twice.

Vinny

Interesting

what's wrong with late night eating
i heard that it was the best thing since flaxseed crackers were invented

la_veronique Wrote:
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> what's wrong with late night eating
Many Buddhists have their last meal of the day at Noon.
Tonya Zavasta recommends a 2pm curfew in her book "Quantum Eating".
Chimpanzees in the Wild are not late eaters.
It all has to do with the Body resting better with an empty stomach.....WY

Yeah, well chimps can't talk and have hair all over their bodies so I guess there are SOME differences between them and me!

they also eat meat...including cannibalism...another big difference, I hope...lol

They also fling their feces around...I have been able to quit doing that this year...

banana who Wrote:
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> They also fling their feces around...
BW...Are you making Fun of me?.....WY

lol you guys!
I think eating late is pretty bad for digestion, the body goes into elimination mode later in the day. Children are naturally hungry every few hours though, if our last meal of the day was at 12 or 2 I'd hear a chorus of "I'm hungry" for the rest of the afternoon! Dinner at 5 or 6 followed by a piece of fruit if they ask for a snack before bed. It's a terrible feeling going to bed with hunger pangs.

Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> banana who Wrote:
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> > They also fling their feces around...
> BW...Are you making Fun of me?.....WY

Why, WY...Do you fling your feces around?

I dont feel good after eating late myself, dont sleep as well either when I do.

I was doing this eating plan thingie and I would sometimes not eat for hours before bedtime...It's tough, man! I personally feel that a LIGHT snack (like juicy fruit) is fine and dandy. Icecream? Not so much...

we are all different, I can eat a lil salad with some citrus juice on it be4 bed if im having hunger pains, but anything heavier, including sweet fruits...just dont work for me... I do best if I can time it to where my stomach is empty but im not having hunger pains... i think we are all gonna have different stuff whe it comes to things like this though,lol

hey prana

what do u mean that nison man returned back to the fold

did he commit some insane dietary crime and now humbled went back to his roots?

just wonderin'

Paul thought the raw vegan diet was the source of his failing health. After quitting the raw vegan diet, he came to realize that other things besides the food choices were the culprit, not the rawness or the veganess of the foods he was eating.

I think for some newbies, this made them wonder if the raw diet would work for them, as it is becoming apparent that a lot of the proponents of raw foods (Paul, Victoria, David, etc) are not raw or vegan themselves any longer.

So no crime, even a tiny, was committed. That would have been more interesting, though.

prana,
where did paul state these things that you mention?
personal communication? blog? ?


also,
hunger pains are an indication of a pathological state of the body due usually to improper diet.

so subsequent conjecture about what works or doesn't work is of little value.

Hunger pangs in a health person might be because they are actually hungry.

Notice how I didn't say "hunger pangs ARE because...", notice how I left space for other people's ideas and beliefs by not stating what I think as though it is a FACT and not just personal opinion? Neat how that works, eh?

the below applies to hunger pangs, pains, etc.

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"Appetite" Is Not Hunger


Many people have never emptied the stomach completely. Most people have never experienced true hunger, which is a mouth and throat sensation, and not a feeling of emptiness and weakness.

People eat—either from habit or because they feel better, or stronger, and—frequently—because the food relieves distress or pain. The food has a stimulating effect, and forces the body to get busy dealing with the newly-swallowed food supplies. It must, perforce, temporarily discontinue its efforts to clean out the debris left by previous meals—which efforts have been the source of the discomfort.

Waste material from the new food adds to the organism's need to clean out the debris (which can be accomplished only by not eating—by fasting).

Dr. Claunch says (The Hygienic System, Volume II, p. 291), "The difference between true hunger and false craving may be determined as follows: when hungry and, comfortable, it is true hunger. When hungry and uncomfortable, it is false craving. When a sick person misses a customary meal, he gets weak before he gets hungry. When a healthy person misses a customary meal, he gets hungry before he gets weak."

Prana,is DW eating cooked foods now or are you talking about that deer antler business?

Don't you think MSM is a cooked food?

I don't think MSM is a food period. I just don't follow DW and his diet so I have no idea what he eats, what supplements he takes, etc. Actually, Matt Monarch promotes various supplemental items like that white ormus or whatever it's called and he also calls himself 100% raw. I am not sure but he may even mention MSM.