Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
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Panchito
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Date: April 01, 2015 04:51PM [nutritionfacts.org]
Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
Posted by:
RawPracticalist
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Date: April 01, 2015 05:05PM >Jenkins and colleagues put people on about a 20 servings of fruit a day diet for a few weeks and no adverse effects
Few weeks only? Unlimited fruits may not be good in the long run If you are eating unlimited fruits you may have no room for some other foods. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2015 05:06PM by RawPracticalist. Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
Posted by:
Panchito
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Date: April 01, 2015 05:13PM unlimited != exclusive
notice the difference? Unlimited means high fruit, not only fruit. It brings down the fructose myth perpetrated by those like Dr Mercola. Mercola says to eat only 15 grams of fruit a day ja ja Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
Posted by:
SueZ
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Date: April 01, 2015 06:23PM How many blueberries to eat with corn flakes has nothing to do with a raw vegan diet Panchito but, yeah, if you are going to eat cardboard for breakfast eat some real food with it.
Dr. Fauxfacts is really stretching when he has to yank up studies from 43 years ago to support and spread his worldview. Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
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Panchito
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Date: April 01, 2015 07:10PM SueZ Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Fauxfacts is really stretching when he has > to yank up studies from 43 years ago to support > and spread his worldview. Are you suggesting that we evolved in 43 years and that the studies do not apply anymore? There is no incentive in making fruit look good as the profit margins are as low as it gets. People expectations are based on perceived value and price. A steak is supposedly better because it costs more and only the wealthy can afford it. It is no wonder that the cheapest foods are culturally perceived as the worst. Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
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The Sproutarian Man
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Date: April 01, 2015 09:17PM RawPracticalist Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > >Jenkins and colleagues put people on about a 20 > servings of fruit a day diet for a few weeks and > no adverse effects > > Few weeks only? > > Unlimited fruits may not be good in the long run > > If you are eating unlimited fruits you may have no > room for some other foods. Exactly! I say to eat minimal fruit (often not fully ripe and not fresh) and focus on the higher quality foods out there. For me, fruit is bottom of the rung in the raw vegan diet in terms of building up the body. It is interesting how the low fat vegans always push the importance of so much fruit. www.thesproutarian.com Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
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NuNativs
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Date: April 02, 2015 12:36AM TSM wrote:
"For me, fruit is bottom of the rung in the raw vegan diet" Ya buddy, we need to cut down ALL fruit trees worldwide, and instead plant seed crops that won't grow more than a season like wheat, fenugreek, broccoli, and mung and then harvest those precious (weak) seeds and regrow them as sprouts leaving the land scalped and bare so that farmers have jobs running their tractors over the dirt year after year instead of building the soil with strong and diverse fruit trees and bushes especially when integrated into Permaculture Food Forests that shower down food year after year in abundance without replanting and enrich the soil each year by dropping leaves and mulch and providing shade to the ground and habitat for insects, animals and people... Miracle Farms "Twenty years ago, Stefan Sobkowiak bought a commercial apple orchard with the intention of converting it to an organic orchard. He did just that, but eventually understood the limitations of the organic model originating from monoculture. He then decided to tear out most of the trees and replant in a way that would maximize biodiversity and yield while minimizing the amount of maintenance required. Inspired by permaculture principles, the orchard now counts over 100 cultivars of apples, plus several types of plums, pears, cherries, and countless other fruits and vegetables." Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/02/2015 12:37AM by NuNativs. Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
Posted by:
The Sproutarian Man
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Date: April 02, 2015 01:34AM NuNativs Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > TSM wrote: > "For me, fruit is bottom of the rung in the raw > vegan diet" > > Ya buddy, we need to cut down ALL fruit trees > worldwide, and instead plant seed crops that won't > grow more than a season like wheat, fenugreek, > broccoli, and mung and then harvest those precious > (weak) seeds and regrow them as sprouts leaving > the land scalped and bare so that farmers have > jobs running their tractors over the dirt year > after year instead of building the soil with > strong and diverse fruit trees and bushes > especially when integrated into Permaculture Food > Forests that shower down food year after year in > abundance without replanting and enrich the soil > each year by dropping leaves and mulch and > providing shade to the ground and habitat for > insects, animals and people... In this low level world, such thinking is pure delusion. Why? because the majority of people will not follow a sprouted diet, so the problems you describe will never occur. In a higher level world l don't see the need to sprout seeds and can see fruitarian diets being managable and closer to truth. NuNativs: it is all relative as l see it. Seeing things in black and white will simply not do if we wish to excape the delusions the mind creates by such limited thinking. www.thesproutarian.com Re: Unlimited fruit is good - Dr M. Greger
Posted by:
NuNativs
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Date: April 02, 2015 03:32AM TSM tried to claim superiority with:
"such limited thinking." Did you watch the video? I did not witness anything "limited" in the message, yet rather unlimited is more like it. More food with less work, more fertility, more animals, more insects, more bees, less labor, more ABUNDANCE FOR ALL. Any diet needs to put into the landscape to test it's "truth". What you see in the video is that fruit based Permaculture Food Production, is a Win Win Win for organisms across the board. It's OUR future, prevented only by OUR "limited thinking" and "limited acting". Every diet "plan" needs to be multiplied times 7,000,000,000+ people to see where it leads, whether it be Paleo, raw till 4 or sproutarian. (Let'US get busy...) Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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