I find that you should really go for that last apple or whatever, that way you won't be hungry later.

Just a little more than seems necessary. It especially is this way for me because I now use mouthwash after everything as my teeth aren't great. So after I use the mouthwash, I'd at least hope to have a clean mouth for a while.

However even before that, I always felt that taking a little bit more raw than seemed necessary was the thing to do, especially if I'm having trouble with non-optimal foods. It just works out better this way for me.



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Since I've only been eating raw for 10 days now, this is something that I am finding to be a bit of a challenge to me. Sometimes I eat too much and then I have this terrible full feeling in my stomach about 20 minutes after I eat. Sometimes I don't eat enough and then need to grab a piece of fruit a couple of hours after I eat. Right now, I'd rather have to grab that extra piece of fruit a couple of hours later then to have that too full feeling. I'm thinking that too full feeling probably isn't very good for me!

Okay, well whatever works for you is good. Keep learning and listen to YOUR BODY most importantly. Just don't keep doing it if it means to risk consuming a non-optimal (dried, peanuts or worse...) food or feeling hungry later.

And remember: if you do happen to eat a little more than is optimal raw food (in their natural form, although this isn't really possible but I guess you can include dried), your body will simply let the excess calories out your system undigested. I had sultanas yesterday (as they were already opened and possibly going off a bit) and then I had sweetcorn as well. My body actually let much of the sweetcorn go out in my faeces not digested at all. Seems like a bit of a waste of money, but I guess it was my fault for eating the sultanas earlier. Of course it's not necessary to see the food 100% intact either, sometimes it will try to take the nutrients out.



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SuperInfinity Wrote:
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> I find that you should really go for that last
> apple or whatever, that way you won't be hungry
> later.
Tonya Zavasta says there's nothing as Good as the
feeling of an Empty Stomach. I guess you don't know what that
is?....neither do I....WY

definitely 2 camps on this train of thought .. overeat .. undereat ... *shrugs*

some days i overeat .. some days i dont eat hardly at all lol

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

I think this might help clear up the argument: When we're still transitioning and detoxifying, we need to eat... a lot, sometimes! But if and when we get to a point where we've pretty much cleaned out and healed our bodies, that's the time to start thinking about calorie restriction and a more strict approach to our raw diet. That's my take on it, anyway.

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No way, a full stomach feels just as good when it's appropriate. I think she's just trying to appeal to people who are fat on non-natural foods.

Who really believes that crap? They're just trying to make themselves eat less. I don't like it because it's a perversion of my body's natural synchronicity. If you're continually told over and over to breathe less, you'd start to feel funny about it and dislike it as well, it's the same with food.

Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> SuperInfinity Wrote:
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> > I find that you should really go for that last
> > apple or whatever, that way you won't be hungry
> > later.
> Tonya Zavasta says there's nothing as Good as the
>
> feeling of an Empty Stomach. I guess you don't
> know what that
> is?....neither do I....WY

Overeat?
Sounds good to me as I am an eater to begin with.
And a belly full of high water content fruits and veggies passes right thru anyway and doesnt sit like a SAD brick.

Vinnie

SuperInfinity,

My understanding is that after many years of raw foods eating, the body becomes more efficient at deriving nutrients from food, so one doesn't need to consume food in as high a volume but one still is properly fed. This is not the same thing as deliberately depriving your body of fuel it needs and is hungry for.

Tamukha Wrote:
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> ....................so one doesn't need
> to consume food in as high a volume but one still
> is properly fed.
Yes, and that's why if you're going to try Calorie
Restriction, it should be 100% Raw Vegan. Many (most) of the CR Society
members are eating 'cooked', and cutting calories. Most (all) of
them look very unhealthy. The whole idea is to 'fuel' on less,
and be strong and vibrant in the process, while eating the best
diet possible.
Here's a clip. These CR Society members don't look healthy to me.....WY

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These CR mice look healthy: [www.youtube.com]

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> These CR mice look healthy:
No one would say that mouse didn't have plenty of
energy....didn't look skinny either....I'd say he needs a
Treadmill.....WY
P.S. These CR Members look a little better than the other couple,
but they're much younger.

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SuperInfinity Wrote:
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> No way, a full stomach feels just as good when
> it's appropriate. I think she's just trying to
> appeal to people who are fat on non-natural foods.
>
>
> Who really believes that crap? They're just trying
> to make themselves eat less. I don't like it
> because it's a perversion of my body's natural
> synchronicity. If you're continually told over and
> over to breathe less, you'd start to feel funny
> about it and dislike it as well, it's the same
> with food.
>
> Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> > SuperInfinity Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > I find that you should really go for that
> last
> > > apple or whatever, that way you won't be
> hungry
> > > later.
> > Tonya Zavasta says there's nothing as Good as
> the
> >
> > feeling of an Empty Stomach. I guess you don't
> > know what that
> > is?....neither do I....WY


Personally, I hate the feeling of a really full stomach. If I eat slow enough, that never happens to me. But if I wait too long to eat and eat too fast, sometimes it happens. I'd by far rather feel a hungry stomach then one that is too full.

A habit of mine is sorta CR I guess. After I get up and start my day I eat frequent small mono meals. Right now this series of small mono meals is watermelon and during the winter is fresh made juice. I have a slice of watermelon and then put the rest into the frig and forget about food until I get a slight hunger signal at which point I have another slice of melon. This is enough to eat that it removes the slight hunger signal but is most definitely not enough to get a full signal. I like to eat like this for the first 4 or 5 hours of my day. I like it because I feel energized and satisfied without having to pay attention to food and can focus on other things. Its kind of like going on auto pilot and letting my body do the auto piloting.

EZ rider Wrote:
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> ........... After I get
> up and start my day I eat frequent small mono
> meals. Right now this series of small mono meals
> is watermelon and during the winter is fresh made
> juice.
Sounds Good!! I like to start my day with Juices, and
run until hungry. A Green Smoothie in early to mid-afternoon takes
the hunger away.
I don't understand how people can start a day with 'heavy' foods.
I do understand how working people don't have time to juice. It's
time-consuming.....WY

I agree. One of the CR members has a "soup" that contains all types of vegetables and herbs and things, the quantitity of different stuff in it is huge (at the opposite end of monofood eating so the body won't know what to do for enzymes and the nutrients won't be digested properly). He has it frozen, and then just to be sure to nuke every last bit of nutrition out of it he *microwaves* it of all things... and that's supposed to be one of his healthiest foods!!! Humans who simply ate less in the past did not live longer, neither will these people. Raw foodists will... but they also need lots of exercise and sufficient weight to support themselves. As the experiments are nothing like real life and the animals in the wild live longer, I don't think they support CR at all.

If you're raw you will probably be very "thin" anyway. Thin in quotation marks because I believe that's the natural way to be. When you have other primates in the wild, they look boney when you look at their hands and arms (even though maybe not very sticky because that's just not how they're built). Then if you give them human food they pack on the weight hugely and can become obese. The same if you look at people in plant-based rural China to this very day. Nearly every single one of them looks like a stick, has perfect skin and appears extremely healthy. There's not a bit of fat on them, as is the case with primitive tribes as well. So yeah they may show some fat is bad for some people (especially people that aren't old and don't need it), but that's not "calorie restriction" as these people put across.

Wheatgrass Yogi Wrote:
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> Tamukha Wrote:
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> > ....................so one doesn't need
> > to consume food in as high a volume but one
> still
> > is properly fed.
> Yes, and that's why if you're going to try Calorie
>
> Restriction, it should be 100% Raw Vegan. Many
> (most) of the CR Society
> members are eating 'cooked', and cutting calories.
> Most (all) of
> them look very unhealthy. The whole idea is to
> 'fuel' on less,
> and be strong and vibrant in the process, while
> eating the best
> diet possible.
> Here's a clip. These CR Society members don't look
> healthy to me.....WY
>
> [www.youtube.com]
> =related



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