From Cleveland Clinic

[health.clevelandclinic.org]

Here’s the Damage Coronavirus (COVID-19) Can Do to Your Lungs
How the coronavirus causes acute respiratory distress syndrome

As the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak continues, we’re learning more about the disease, what it does to the body and the damage it can cause. But not sure you understand yet exactly what the virus can do to you?

Although many people with COVID-19 have no symptoms or only mild symptoms, a subset of patients develop severe respiratory illness and may need to be admitted for intensive care.

In a new video, lung pathologist Sanjay Mukhopadhyay, MD, lays out in detail how the lungs are affected in these severe cases. The 15-minute video walks through how COVID-19 causes a “dangerous and potentially fatal” condition known as acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) while providing stark images that underscore the severity of the damage that condition can cause to your lungs.

What’s the connection between coronavirus and ARDS?
As Dr. Mukhopadhyay explains, Chinese researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China.

The researchers found 50 of the 54 patients who died had developed ARDS while only nine of the 137 survivors had ARDS.

“It’s a really, really significant contribution to death in these patients,” says Dr. Mukhopadhyay.

How can doctors tell if you have ARDS?
If you have ARDS, you’ll have symptoms like sudden breathlessness, rapid breathing, dizziness, rapid heart rate and excessive sweating.

But the four main things doctors will look for are:

-If you have an acute condition, symptoms that started within one week of what they call a “known clinical insult,” or new or worsening symptoms.
-If your shortness of breath isn’t explained by heart failure or fluid overload.
-Having low oxygen levels in your blood (severe hypoxia).
-Both lungs appearing white and opaque (versus black) on chest X-rays (called bilateral lung opacities on chest imaging).

So how does ARDS actually damage your lungs?
Most importantly, patients who are suffering from ARDS end up having damage to the walls of the air sacs in their lungs — the ones that help oxygen pass through into our red blood cells. That’s what doctors term diffuse alvelolar damage.

In a healthy lung, oxygen within these air sacs (alveolus) travels through to small blood vessels (capillaries). These tiny vessels, in turn, deliver the oxygen to your red blood cells.

“Nature has evolved in a way that the wall of alveolus is very, very thin in a normal person so oxygen can easily get from the air space in between to the red blood cell,” Dr. Mukhopadhyay explains.

The coronavirus damages both the wall and lining cells of the alveolus as well as the capillaries. The debris that accumulates because of all of that damage lines the wall of the alveolus the same way paint would cover a wall, Dr. Mukhopadhyay points out. The damage to capillaries also causes them to leak plasma proteins that add to the wall’s thickness.

“Eventually, the wall of the alveolus gets thicker than it should be,” he notes. “The thicker this wall gets, the harder it is to transfer oxygen, the more you feel short of breath, and the more and more you start moving towards severe illness and possibly death.”

Why is understanding how COVID-19 affects your lungs important?
The whole point, Dr. Mukhopadhyay stresses, is to emphasize what the coronavirus is capable of doing to a body, particularly high-risk patients who may be more vulnerable to infection. He hopes this will get people to take the current outbreak seriously.

“Please don’t dismiss this as ‘just another viral infection that will pass,'” he says. “Please take all the precautions that the CDC is outlining. Please protect yourself, your family, and others.”

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Here's a video they suggest. A little dry/academic, but worth it for those who might like to know.

[www.youtube.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2020 12:19AM by suncloud.

You made a mistake in the Subject Line of your thread.

It should read:

"Lung damage from ventilators"

Look it up here -

[www.google.com]

But we need the virus!

We must have the virus!

Virus explains all

We like simple explanation

Government likes virus for lockdowns

Why no lockdowns last year???

Nobody seems to answer

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But we need the virus!

We must have the virus!

Virus explains all

We like simple explanation

Government likes virus for lockdowns

Why no lockdowns last year???

Nobody seems to answer

That's the Million Dollar Question I was going to pose here on the board, but I never got to it!

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Jennifer
You made a mistake in the Subject Line of your thread.

It should read:

"Lung damage from ventilators"

Look it up here -

[www.google.com]

Uh no Jennifer. With the scarcity of ventilators, people aren't getting one unless there's already an indication of oxygen deficiency. On the video you cited, the doctor states that COVID 19 patients need ventilators, but they're getting turned up too high. Regardless of whether his statement is correct, COVID 19 can cause severe lung damage and/or hypoxia with or without a ventilator.

[www.webmd.com]



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There's something about people repeatedly saying

Covid19 does X bad thing

That is disturbing

THE TEST THAT SAYS PERSON HAS COVID19
Is not accurate
That means it does not exist

Or at most exists but unproven to be doing anything

it's just amazing to me that the inventor of the test said that it's not supposed to be used for diagnosis and people keep using it

And it's not even accurate with respect to identification of virus


It's just so absurd and nobody seems to care about accuracy or honesty

NYC doctor says high ventilator settings damage coronavirus patients’ lungs

Some doctors moving away from ventilators for virus patients

With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19

Complications of Ventilator Use

Ventilator Complications: Lung Damage

Ventilator-associated lung injury

Mechanical Ventilation: Taking Its Toll on the Lung
..high stretch ventilation can exacerbate damage to the lungs and increase mortality.

Is Protocol-Driven COVID-19 Ventilation Doing More Harm Than Good?

ETC. They are article titles. Lots more at the Google Link I posted above ...

And I heard or read a while back that - 75% of people who go on a ventilator end up dead!

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Jennifer
NYC doctor says high ventilator settings damage coronavirus patients’ lungs

Some doctors moving away from ventilators for virus patients

With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19

Complications of Ventilator Use

Ventilator Complications: Lung Damage

Ventilator-associated lung injury

Mechanical Ventilation: Taking Its Toll on the Lung

I accept all that Jennifer, but none of it says COVID-19 doesn't cause lung damage.
..high stretch ventilation can exacerbate damage to the lungs and increase mortality.

Is Protocol-Driven COVID-19 Ventilation Doing More Harm Than Good?

ETC. They are article titles. Lots more at the Google Link I posted above ...

And I heard or read a while back that - 75% of people who go on a ventilator end up dead!

I accept all that Jennifer, but none of it says COVID 19 doesn't cause lung damage.

This link talks about lung issues for patients when they come into the hospital, ie before they're on a ventilator.

[www.webmd.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2020 01:21AM by suncloud.

She made another error Jennifer of course


The reference was to WUHAN

Pollution. Among other things

NO VIRUS NECESSARY.

SUNcloud wants to keep up pumping out virus Propaganda
And doesn't see the big picture
Because nobody researches

Lazy armchair scientists

Doctors love their fancy terms and categories

All nonsense.

Some people more toxic than others ...PERIOD

THATS who lives and who dies not ARDS based on virus



Still talking about covid19 like pink elephants in my room
No evidence of either one



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She made another error Jennifer of course


The reference was to WUHAN

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What reference Fresh?

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She made another error Jennifer of course


The reference was to WUHAN

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What reference Fresh?

Your reference was in wuhan

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She made another error Jennifer of course


The reference was to WUHAN

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What reference Fresh?

Your reference was in wuhan

Which reference? I posted several.

researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China.

Here's Cuomo lung Xrays:
Cuomo shares chest X-rays after coronavirus diagnosis

More Denial?

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researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China.

Oh, OK. That was from my first reference. Those same issues are found elsewhere as well, as indicated here:

[www.webmd.com]

I won't argue though that pollution wouldn't have anything to do with the severity of the disease. Same as an underlying condition. Or smoking for that matter. All of these can affect the outcome. It's just that those conditions wouldn't account for the sudden tremendous spike in deaths all over the world.



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researchers have linked COVID-19 to ARDS. Their study examined risk factors for 191 confirmed coronavirus patients who died while being treated in two hospitals in Wuhan, China.

Oh, OK. That was from my first reference. Those same issues are found elsewhere as well, as indicated here:

[www.webmd.com]

I won't argue though that pollution wouldn't have anything to do with the severity of the disease. Same as an underlying condition. Or smoking for that matter. All of these can affect the outcome. It's just that those conditions wouldn't account for the sudden tremendous spike in deaths all over the world.

There are different causative factors at each location WITHOUT needing virus

And it's not SEVERITY OF DISEASE IT IS THE DISEASE

and there is no sudden spike other than NOBODY PLASTERED THE MEDIA WITH STORIES LAST YEAR
From the same death numbers! Spike 1

Plus more people being falsely labeled virus due to false positives with widespread testing!

Spike 2

PLUS THE TREATMENTS ARE MAKING PEOPLE WORSE AFTER FALSE DIAGNOSIS OF VIRUS

Spike 3


people cannot get virus out of their heads!

It's not required to explain any disease or death!

None

They ARE NOT examining people directly with electron microscopes
They are scamming the whole thing with USELESS PCR tests

It's like me looking at the brightness of your eyes
Or how you smell
And saying
Virus
No virus
Virus
No virus

It's not a binary test

They magnify samples x number of times like 20 or 30
and there is no standard

And then say well enough generic markers match

It's a joke a very disturbing joke.


But of course you all know this right?
You've researched this right?




Kary Mullis. Inventor. Not accurate for diagnosis



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