Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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NuNativs
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Date: May 08, 2020 03:31PM 'What are we doing this for?': Doctors are fed up with conspiracies ravaging ERs
At the end of another long shift treating coronavirus patients, Dr. Hadi Halazun opened his Facebook page to find a man insisting to him that "no one's dying" and that the coronavirus is "fake news" drummed up by the news media. Hadi tried to engage and explain his firsthand experience with the virus. In reply, another user insinuated that he wasn't a real doctor, saying pictures from his profile showing him at concerts and music festivals proved it. "I told them: 'I am a real doctor. There are 200 people in my hospital's ICU,'" said Halazun, a cardiologist in New York. "And they said, 'Give me your credentials.' I engaged with them, and they kicked me off their wall." "I left work and I felt so deflated. I let it get to me." Halazun, like many other health care professionals, is dealing with a bombardment of misinformation and harassment from conspiracy theorists, some of whom have moved beyond posting online to pressing doctors for proof of the severity of the pandemic. And it's taking a toll. Halazun said dealing with conspiracy theorists is the "second most painful thing I've had to deal with, other than separation of families from their loved one." Several other doctors shared similar experiences, saying that they regularly had to treat patients who had sought care too late because of conspiracy theories spread on social media and that social media companies have to do more to counteract the forces that spread lies for profit. MORE ABOUT GATES ETC..... Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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Jennifer
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Date: May 08, 2020 03:51PM Oh, you mean like the conspiracy theory that if you go to the hospital with trouble breathing, you end up dead ... Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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fresh
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Date: May 08, 2020 03:52PM
Strawman of course Nobody said there is no sickness Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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NuNativs
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Date: May 08, 2020 04:25PM Here's the "meat":
""With conspiracy theories, the reason they're impervious to fact-checking is that they have become a way of being in the world for believers," Phillips said. "It isn't just one narrative that you can debunk. It is a holistic way of being in the world that has been reinforced by all the other bulls--- that these platforms have allowed people to consume for years." ""It scares me more than anything that there are people who are basically controlled — and in the same way they feel they're fighting against that control," he said. "They go to YouTube, where they're really being controlled, and they don't realize it. That's what's scary." "Brian Keeley, a professor of philosophy at Pitzer College in California who studies why people believe in conspiracy theories, said some people in times of crisis look to far-fetched ideas with simple answers for complex problems. Providing a straightforward, extinguishable enemy — whether it's a well-known celebrity like Gates or a mysterious concept like the illuminati — gives conspiracy theorists hope, agency and power in a time of chaos. In reality, those recognizable, often mortal figures are simply scapegoats for an act of God. "People are looking for these kinds of explanations to control something in their lives," Keeley said. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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Jennifer
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Date: May 08, 2020 05:12PM
You're right, Fresh. Did the man actually say "No one's dying" or did he say something to the effect that - not that many people are dying or that very few people are dying or that it's the same as those who die from the flu every year. Then this doctor 'Paraphrased' what the man said as 'No one's dying'. Twisting. Plus this Corona-Hyping article has taken what Two People said on Facebook as the stance of a vast majority. And the article said: "Several other doctors shared similar experiences, saying that they regularly had to treat patients who had sought care too late because of conspiracy theories spread on social media and that social media companies have to do more to counteract the forces that spread lies for profit." So they're blaming Coronavirus deaths on 'Conspiracy Theorists' and stating that 'Conspiracy Theorists' have to be censored. If these doctors are so busy saving coronavirus patients, why are they wasting time trolling 'social media'... Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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RawPracticalist
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Date: May 08, 2020 05:36PM You are giving more ammunition to the conspiracists, the misinformed.
They will rejoice, they are winning. Let's not forget: In Politics(or Life), Sometimes The Facts Don't Matter
[www.npr.org] Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2020 05:47PM by RawPracticalist. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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Jennifer
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Date: May 08, 2020 06:07PM
When you say 'the conspiracists', if you mean The Corona-Skeptics, unfortunately, we are not 'winning' because I think there are only about 20% of us in America. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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fresh
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Date: May 08, 2020 06:36PM The True believers act as if we don't have any facts when they don't present any of their own all they say is trust the authorities Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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RawPracticalist
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Date: May 08, 2020 07:13PM >When you say 'the conspiracists', if you mean The Corona-Skeptics, unfortunately, we are not 'winning' because I think there are only about 20% of us in America.
Really? The majority of people who have common sense do not make much noise about things, they are too busy running their lives, and their children's education. THE LITTLE FEW make a lot noise, they organize, march, kill physicians, raging against people who made free choice about their lives. The small minority against fee choice is one example of that. They claim they are so concerned about human life, yet there are so many children with no food, no shelter, and they do not care. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2020 07:14PM by RawPracticalist. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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Jennifer
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Date: May 08, 2020 09:51PM
No offense, RawPracticalist, sometimes I have trouble understanding where you're coming from. I think it's the circular logic you're using. When you say: They claim they are so concerned about human life, yet there are so many children with no food, no shelter, and they do not care. Are you possibly referring to Pro-Life women who are Anti-Abortion and concerned about human life? Are you saying that these Pro-Life women do not care about all the children with no food and no shelter? Is it possible that the Pro-Life women who are concerned about protecting the babies in the wombs can ALSO care about all the children with no food and no shelter? That it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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RawPracticalist
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Date: May 09, 2020 12:06AM If you are concerned about life why do you KILL LIFE
And why don't they supply food for children who will die from starvation? Should not the crusade for saving those already alive and starving be even more vigorous? [www.nytimes.com] Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2020 12:21AM by RawPracticalist. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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Jennifer
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Date: May 09, 2020 02:20AM Perspective:
There have been 11 Abortion-related people killed since 1993. In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort;[I 17][I 18] Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.[I 19] There have been 61,000,000 babies killed in the womb since 1973 Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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John Rose
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Date: May 09, 2020 02:31AM Serendipity...
I just updated my file on Leading Causes of Death and I couldn't believe the Abortion year to date # - 15,005,983 Abortions this year... [www.worldometers.info] World Population @ 8:50 PM on 5-8-20 7,783,180,968 Current World Population 49,443,425 Births this year 333,344 Births today 20,757,534 Deaths this year 139,946 Deaths today 28,685,890 Net population growth this year Food @ 9:00 PM on 5-8-20 842,862,701 Undernourished people in the world 1,692,949,734 Overweight people in the world 756,220,368 Obese people in the world 27,018 People who died of hunger today $ 508,755,383 Money spent for obesity related diseases in the USA today Health @ 9:15 PM on 5-8-20 4,581,984 Communicable disease deaths this year 171,790 Seasonal flu deaths this year 2,682,843 Deaths of children under 5 this year 15,005,983 Abortions this year 109,095 Deaths of mothers during birth this year 41,774,511 HIV/AIDS infected people 593,342 Deaths caused by HIV/AIDS this year 2,898,806 Deaths caused by cancer this year 346,209 Deaths caused by malaria this year 1,764,442 Deaths caused by smoking this year 882,778 Deaths caused by alcohol this year 378,492 Suicides this year 476,455 Road traffic accident fatalities this year 13,431,699,587 Cigarettes smoked today $ 141,199,908,964 Money spent on illegal drugs this year [www.worldometers.info] Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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NuNativs
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Date: May 09, 2020 03:38AM "Providing a straightforward, extinguishable enemy..."
"People are looking for these kinds of explanations to control something in their lives..." That about describes the mighty files of JR and fresh's frantic search for daily enemies... Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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RawPracticalist
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Date: May 09, 2020 04:29AM 7 Conspiracy Theories About Malia & Sasha Obama That Are So Absurd You Have to Laugh
[www.yahoo.com] Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
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RawPracticalist
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Date: May 11, 2020 12:58PM Virus Conspiracists Elevate a New Champion
[www.yahoo.com] --------- Let's not forget: In Politics(or Life), Sometimes The Facts Don't Matter New research suggests that misinformed people rarely change their minds when presented with the facts — and often become even more attached to their beliefs. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2020 01:00PM by RawPracticalist. Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
Posted by:
fresh
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Date: May 11, 2020 01:09PM Look in the mirror
She has no motive to lie they do Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
Posted by:
NuNativs
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Date: May 11, 2020 03:45PM (((THEY))) Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
Posted by:
NuNativs
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Date: May 12, 2020 12:46AM
The motive is $$$ Re: Conspiracy Theorists OR Lunatics-The Other Side...
Posted by:
Jennifer
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Date: May 12, 2020 01:13AM
If it's fine for Trans people can refer to themselves as "They", then it's fine for We the People to refer to our Unknown Oppressors as "They". Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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