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Thor's Raw Power
Date: August 31, 2006 05:37AM

Has anyone tried this yet? If so, what do you think/feel?

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: Rawrrr! ()
Date: August 31, 2006 07:11AM

I was wondering if some of the ingredients are "safe" stimulants? I can't eat chocolate or other energizers because they make me to nervous. But I may be wrong. The ingredients look impeccably clean and organic though.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: rawmark ()
Date: August 31, 2006 02:44PM

Do not try any of his stuff. He's a plagiarist and a liar. He, and his partners stole Raw Eating written by A.T. Hovanessian and turned it in to Nature's First Law.

Now, Stephen Arlin aka Thor is reaping the rewards of his lies. He's over 300 lbs and a walking testament of what not to do.

Marcos

Go Vegan for your life, your health, the planet and, most importantly, the animals that we share this wonderful world with!

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: monson ()
Date: August 31, 2006 08:49PM

have you seen 'raw power'?
after feeling like a schmuck for buying that book several years ago, i don't think i'd ever buy anything else that guy put out.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: innervegetable ()
Date: September 01, 2006 01:13AM

Marcos,

agreed, I would not take dietary advise from Arlin, but dude. thats the knee jerk reaction alot of people had 7 years ago when the plagiarism became common knowledge. why so harsh?

Anyways you might add that David Wolfe AND R.C. Dini are responsible as well. All of whom have addmitted and appologised, I might add, at the time Natures First Law was written. the book by the Iranian man was one of THE ONLY RAW BOOKS OUT THERE. Of course things are going to be repeated. (I know some of it is word for word...) Also, Nature's First Law is the book that got me (and hundreds of others) inspired enough to embark on this path. Its done good.

David Stephen and Foud were probably alot like you at the time. Young, inspired, excited, and new to the lifestyle. wheres the calm, objective, compassionate attitude, so many rawfooders display Marcos?

peace

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Date: September 01, 2006 05:38AM

Didn't David study law? He should ahve knowmn better. Oh well. Anyway, I asked the same question on rawfood.com's message board. There were people there who said they've treid it and that it's great. They have more engery, etc.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: innervegetable ()
Date: September 01, 2006 06:53AM

woops &$%W#



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2006 06:53AM by innervegetable.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: thehulaqueen ()
Date: September 01, 2006 12:13PM

Do keep in mind that the book was out of copywrite, the author missing and no laws were broken. They have admitted it was done, apologized and ceased to print the book. Forgive and forget comes to mind.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: rawmark ()
Date: September 01, 2006 07:26PM

hula,

That's almost correct. They still have not pulled the book and every few years come out with a new volume of the same thing. The only reason they are able to still sell the book was because they put A.T. Hovanessian's name in the front as a reference. However, they never did say "We Stole His Book Word for Word and relabled it as our own". Why? Well, to do so would cause them to lose face, their business and reputation. This is why they put out an updated volume every few years and still act like they did nothing wrong.

Marcos

Go Vegan for your life, your health, the planet and, most importantly, the animals that we share this wonderful world with!

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Date: September 01, 2006 10:09PM

Grrr...sometimes I wonder if I've deveolped dyslexia. I'm ahavign a hard time lately. I didn't as a child, but I am now. <sigh> I did it again.

butterfly_imagines Wrote:
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> Didn't David study law? He should ahve knowmn
> better. Oh well. Anyway, I asked the same
> question on rawfood.com's message board. There
> were people there who said they've treid it and
> that it's great. They have more engery, etc.

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Re: Thor's Raw Power
Posted by: innervegetable ()
Date: September 01, 2006 11:10PM

while this copyrighting did take place and is known, no lawsuit was filed to my knowledge, and the good these guys have done for so many people has prevented them from being discredited completely (excluding a few) some people hold that against them, some people hold the fact that they profit off their business against them. I don't. For example, David Wolfe has convinced me eye to eye that he is out for the better good, before making a buck. That's just my view. Stephen Arlin, however has been on and off rawfoods, and I would'nt consider his dietary advise.

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