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brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: February 15, 2011 11:55PM


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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: February 16, 2011 05:00AM

ive had these folks on my bookmark forever .. they are truly and inspiration .. although what they are doing is much harder in my northern climate .. its still inspirational smiling smiley

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 16, 2011 01:40PM

Completely loved it, passed it on and want to marry into the family. No kidding, that's awesome.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: PatchMomma ()
Date: February 17, 2011 12:38AM

That's what we're moving towards!

Since I've gotten my hubby and son on board with living foods we've even gotten rid of our goats and most of our chickens and are focusing on growing the raw food we are eating. Anticipating the rental of a sod cutter in the near future...get rid of the grass we need to mow and grow some food! Heaven for us.

Love Path to Freedom, they're so inspirational.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 17, 2011 12:50AM

You can get rid of the grass like this, no cutting required!
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: PatchMomma ()
Date: February 18, 2011 12:29AM

Thanks coco.

That is a great way to get a garden spot ready. Unfortunately we're starting right now and want to get things growing well soon and where we're at (just across the border of Florida in GA) our grass and weeds will actually just grow up through the cardboard and mulch and it takes a long time for it to kill the grass. We're also doing a lot right up by the house and for every beneficial insect sheet mulching attracts we get about 100 cockroaches. Ah, the south.

But when we plan farther ahead we do sheet mulch areas, but we're going for quick and easy this time. To say weeds and grass here are tenacious is quite the understatement.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 18, 2011 01:59AM

Apparently those people aren't such lovely folk after all. Wow.

[www.permies.com]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 18, 2011 02:07AM

sad smiley that is kinda really sad...

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 18, 2011 02:29AM

They are refuting the letters of intent to sue etc sent out to other bloggers but if they did in fact trademark the names that would be an odd thing to do just because. Strange. Very strange.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 18, 2011 05:38AM

So, it's true, they are suing people who use those terms even though they have been in common usage for years beforehand. Please sign this petition and pass it along to put an end to this. If I start growing herbs in my backyard here in Canada and making soap or whatever I can't call it Urban Homestead soap or any such reference without being sued by them. How ridiculous is that? I mean, I love what they're doing and think the inspiration is great but that doesn't give them to right to claim the name all for themselves. Phooey on them.

[www.change.org]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 18, 2011 08:07PM

Awesome forest garden

[www.youtube.com]

all the videos here are amazing. Ignore the ones about keeping creatures on your homestead smiling smiley.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: PatchMomma ()
Date: February 19, 2011 01:46AM

Yeah, I just found out about the copyrighting they did! I don't think very highly of them anymore.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: February 19, 2011 01:56AM

oh thats kinda sad disturbing news .. very lame @!

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: February 21, 2011 10:19PM

"Pasadena's Dervaes Family Trademarks the Terms 'Urban Homestead' and 'Urban Homesteading,' Now Cracking Down on Bloggers".

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 21, 2011 11:25PM

LOL Prism!

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: February 21, 2011 11:29PM

Hahahaha...I crack myself up sometimessmiling smiley

Love,
Prism

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: February 22, 2011 02:41PM

[sigh]It pays to be a cynic. I suppose the old lady who sold fresh eggs out of her actual homestead at the end of our street(she rented from her farmer brother whose land was developed for our tiny subdivision)could be sued by these people, if she were still alive . . . 'course, she could just call it a "suburban homestead" and circumvent the legal wicket that way. All together everyone: "It's not an urban homestead, it's a SUBurban homestead," or, "I don't have an urban homestead, I'm next to the outlet mall--it's a SPRAWLstead!"

I'm copyrighting that last one smiling smiley

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 22, 2011 02:50PM

They have caught the ire of some heavy hitters...
[www.eff.org]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Tamukha ()
Date: February 22, 2011 03:12PM

Wow, the Dervaes family have gone from looking merely tetchy to downright spiteful in a matter of paragraphs. It's baffling to me that anyone can copyright a term, even if it was contrived by someone else, and they know it was. That's an excellent way to discredit anything else honorable one may have done. Sad, sad.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 25, 2011 03:02PM

The sent a letter to John Kohler!
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: February 25, 2011 11:22PM

There used to Victory gardens and nobody copy wrote that name for their personal gain.

If anyone wants to do that with the term Urban Homestead(ing) why not just put their name in front of the term and copy write that?

Dervaes Urban Homestead

Prisms Urban Homestead

Makes sense to me. The way they are doing it they are making themselves very unpopular.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 25, 2011 11:24PM

the cease and desist letters are whats making them very unpopular, I dont think anyone would have cared much about them copy-writing it if it wasn't for that...they have even gone after bloggers...

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 25, 2011 11:36PM

There is a copyrite option called Commons something that makes it a public term that anyone can use freely. That would have "kept it out of the big corporation's hands" which is what they claimed they were after when they decided to do this thing. That is such a load of organic bullsh!t, obviously.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: February 25, 2011 11:38PM

most definitely, even if they argued they did not know of the option, their statements are still proven to be lies by the fact they send out all these cease and desist letters... it really bothers me...meh...

Edoy: On closer examination, I think what bothers me most is that i really looked up to them, and when they fell off that pedestal because of their greedy tactics and lies, I felt disappointment because of my shattered expectations of people I held to a higher standard then the normal money grubbing big business they state they are against...

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?




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Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 25, 2011 11:42PM

I love that John Kohler straight away posted a video with that in the title, heh. Everybody should just go crazy calling everything urban homestead this and that, how can they afford to track them all down and send out all those letters? They'll get tired of it eventually.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: February 26, 2011 03:14AM

a recent commenter said it best IMHO ... they should crawl back under a rock and check for worms

they are doing nothing but dividing something that should be shared by all .. typical greedy people

iwont be linking their site anymore to anyone .. shame sad smiley

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 26, 2011 03:34PM

Mother Jones is on it..

[motherjones.com]

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Prism ()
Date: February 27, 2011 08:08PM

My above post with the link I'm told has nothing to do with the Dervaes so I need to be enlightened if anyone has the information.

If it's the wrong link then I am sorry, and I'll ask Prana to delete my post. I'll take responsibility as I should not just have followed what I was told.

[urbanhomestead.org] this is the correct link to the Dervaes.

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Jgunn ()
Date: March 03, 2011 05:14PM

seems the Dervaes *original* work is not so original at all .. they lifted text from a profession garden writers website ... lol .. its funny when those throw stones from glass houses smiling smiley

[www.myearthgarden.com]

...Jodi, the banana eating buddhist

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Re: brilliant self sufficiency
Posted by: Curator ()
Date: March 03, 2011 08:05PM

hahaha, I was about to post the same thing jodi, you beat me to itsmiling smiley

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Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

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