> Yes, this is a vegan forum; it says so directly in the title, and
> those who are not vegans should leave; their posts are off-topic
> and against the rules. I agree with arugula completely.

It's a pitty that all vegans get tar with the same brush as you. With most non-vegans I meet, I keep my veganism a seceret just because of people like you. If people find out I'm a vegan before they get to know me, I end up spending time/energy reassuring them that I'm not about to start spouting vegan elitist crap and giving them a hard time for their choices of diet. Of course, when they do get know me, they normally end up realising my food tastes better and is healthier for them than their choice. ;-)

Something I've noticed, when I used the term vegan fundimentalist, the people who are acting like vegan fundimentalists can't see why I used that term (of course, the same applies for any fundimentalists as well). I guess you guys would like to round up all the non-vegans and ship them off to camps.

But, in an effort to help you promote you message (it is one I believe in, btw), I will tell you that your attitudes are bad and this is distorting and subtracting for the message you want to communicate. Might I suggest you use encouragement as your main weapon rather than guilt.

Oh yeah, I ate a spoon full of honey a couple of months ago and really enjoyed it. Feel free to ask the admin to suspend my account and delete all my posts.

Peaz,
Ian

Nah, stick around watch the fountains of hate and guilt self destruct. I like and appreciate many of Arugula's posts, I think he/she is probably a nice person. But, when they get on the topics of other people's diets, Arugula and the others come across as nasty hating people who are only here because it's a safe place for vegans to attack non-vegans (I know this isn't true, but it does seem that way).

Also, stick around, be nice to the hating vegans. As a wise man once said, be nice to your enemies, it really annoys them.

Ian.

sodoffsocks Wrote:
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> It's a pitty that all vegans get tar with the same
> brush as you.

Dont worry...I don't group all of you together like that. Most of the vegans on here are VERY nice and laid back.

I've just deleted a post on this thread because it contained some name calling, which is uncalled for on this forum. Please, though at times we may feel attacked on this forum, please do not react and resort to name calling because you feel you need to defend yourself. Your interpretation of the situation may not be correct in the heat of anger. It is difficult to communicate clearly in this electronic medium because we are not privy to face to face communication, and it is hard to feel what is truly going on with the person who just sent what looks like a flaming post.

If anyone is found to pass judgement on fellow members here (labelling members as bad, evil, Nazi, etc), or they are found to be attacking fellow members, they most certainly will be asked to leave or be banned if they don't correct their behavior.

Again, if you feel you've been attacked, please report the specific message to the moderators by clicking the 'Report This Message" button and writing down why you thought the message was offensive.

So that everyone is familiar with the board rules, here they are (they were presented to you as you signed up for an account):

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Sorry yohamma, should have been more specific, I was referring to the first post on here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2006 10:13AM by jadedshade.

Sorry, I mean Yogamama. What a typo I made.

LOL about Yohamama. No problem! On another forum, they call me "Yodamama".

Bryan, thanks for clarifying things for us. It is much appreciated!

Kim

No need for vegan hostility. Life is just too short for this.
Let's all play nice and get along.

What a bunch of hypocrites. I'm outta here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2006 05:01PM by rooneyandmuldoon.

Pitty to see people leaving, but understandable. I don't like censorship in any form, plenty of offensive comments don't get deleted. I'm curious why the posts telling non-vegans to leave are ok.

Hmmmm, I getting a little bummed out about this. Maybe I'll go and be annoying on some of the non-raw-vegan threads that are currently active..... From Bryan's post it seems about 80% of posts/threads on forum are prohibited...

Ian...you can't leave. I wish rooney wouldn't leave either, but I understand. I think I will stay here just to be annoying.

So Vegetarian AND Vegan are BOTH okay, to clarify.


Bryan Wrote:
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>
> So that everyone is familiar with the board rules,
> here they are (they were presented to you as you
> signed up for an account):
>
> ------------------
>
> Living and Raw Food Boards Policy
>
> These boards are provided as a public service,
> courtesy of LIVING-FOODS.COM. Please post and
> reply to queries related only to the
> vegan/vegetarian living food lifestyle.
>

yeah
hey sodoffosocks

u can't leave
cuz i like your name

its like i see toes wriggling out of sodoffoscks
and it makes me laugh
plus yer the one that told me the innerworkings of what goes on inside of those
frozen food pea factories
so it kept me from getting frozen peas
so there u go

stay