Hey guys...I just wanna share something with ya....

All this crap with Confuzed has got me thinking.....thinking that I really don't wanna post here anymore on any other raw food forum....this is why you never here from long time Fruitarians/Raw Vegans, let's face it would you wanna put up with this mess after working so hard to achieve your goal????....I know I don't....

And for people to say that there are no long time Fruitarians how the hell do they know???

I'd rather walk the walk on my own and in peace!!!!

Anyway.... it's been beautiful....I'm out!

And Confuzed....you've got some serious issues man!!!!....you've brought the caliber of this forum down a few notches....stop wasting everyones time and seek some real help!!!





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2006 04:53AM by The Fruitarian One.

FruitarianOne,

For what its worth, confuzed is banned.

It's about time...well done!!!!

He joined my forum under a different name shortly after joining this one and tried doing the same crap there but I banned him quick!!!....you can be as compassionate as you want but you just don't need people like that bringing down the forum, undoing all the hard work put in by yourself and others...I've learn't a lot of things from this situation and one of them is that things need to change....Confuzed...picked at every insecurity a raw vegan might have and nawed at it...these insecurities shouldn't exist if we are doing our job right in the first place....yeah this lifestyle attract trolls but they can be dealt with swiftly....we need to make our forums right so non-raw people can feel comfortable living the lifestyle and sharing progress and not give up before they even begin because they think we are a bunch of freaks with eating disorders.....

Jeeez!!....I'm pretty much done with all raw forums now.....

anyway...be good!

Thanks Bryan,

Poor Guy but WOW! What a sorry outlook on life he has! I prefer the positive energy I get from this forum!
By the way Bryan, you look incredibly healthy & handsome! Keep up the good work!
You are an inspiration to all of us!
Fruitarian, Please don't leave we here at the forum I really appericiate your
input! We need raw energy's like you to keep us going!
Thanks to both of you Bryan & Fruitarian for your teachings. You contribute so much to this forum!
Blessings, Jan

PS I'm writing you this as I sip on some AWESOME homemade almond milk that is "to live for"!

Everything has to be backed by reasoning and evidence, we cannot just believe that fruitarianism works because somebody has been doing well on it for few years.

Please don't leave fruitarian, we need veteran raws to keep the online community strong and to help out/ support those who are just starting out.

I like Victoria Boutenko's thing about living in harmony with the non raw world. I very much need a supportive community-- I'm 95%, quickly going on 100%, and I live in a non-raw-food-friendly part of sunny Canada. So I was very excited to find this community here. But no community can be supportive when it responds to a question from an outsider with "yo, you are an ignorant outsider, get lost!" Sure confuzed was confused, but so is most of the world. It was an opportunity to give him what he needed (and asked for) namely information about why fish is not food, and an invitation to join us! If that's not a valid discussion topic (i.e., if we only want to talk about what happens after the decision to eat raw, and not the decision itself) then I'm all for responding with a kind reminder that this is a vegan forum, and even with closing the thread as not appropraite, but not with anger. Peace, love, joy, and lack of self-righteousness are good for both community and personal health.

anamnesis:


<<I go for refuge to those who are mines of joy, toward whom even an offense results in happiness. --Santideva>>

i like this quote

can't think of anyone like that
but if i ever find that person
i'll marry him ( hee hee)

fruitarionone

<<you can be as compassionate as you want but you just don't need people like that bringing down the forum, undoing all the hard work put in by yourself and others>>

its impossible for anyone to "undo" the hard work you put in

kinda like eleanor roosevelt said : " no one can make me feel inferior without my consent"

frutarian one, I want to know what your diet consists of and how long you've been in it.

Confuzed is not a teen with zinc related penile underdevelopement. He is a old fart, who is very jealous of someone/some people here, and is zinc deficiant, impotent and on Viagra, because he is eating a SAD diet. More likely he is is on Viagra too, for his "penile problems".

I can't understand why, when people like confuzed come on here, everyone just doesn't ignore them 100%. How can someone have a conversation with themselves.

Fruitarian One... you should stay here! Don't let a old bitter medical professional, who I suspect confuzed to be, run you off.

Confuzed is not a teen with zinc related penile underdevelopement. He is a old fart, who is very jealous of someone/some people here, and is zinc deficiant, impotent and on Viagra, because he is eating a SAD diet. More likely he is on Viagra too, for his "penile problems".

I can't understand why, when people like confuzed come on here, everyone just doesn't ignore them 100%. How can someone have a conversation with themselves?

Fruitarian One... you should stay here! Don't let a old bitter medical professional, who I suspect confuzed to be, run you off.

Fruitarian One, I hope you stay. You are a great source of inspiration and instruction for all of us and this forum would be poorer without you.

From the few posts I read by Confuzed, I did not think he (or she) was posing sincere questions, I thought he was a troll, or just a really idiotic and annoying kid without the interest to read up on the resources people were giving him. In other words, not sincere. I was surprised that anyone responded to his posts.

Bryan, thank you for banning Confuzed. About time.

Why was confuzed banned? He wasn't abusive in any way that I saw.

You guys got to toughen up IMO. If you're secure in your believes who gives a flying fish what the doubters think??

Not everyone is secure here. Some of us are struggling with health issues and trying to find our way. We are looking for support and encouragement, not doubt and deliberate attempts to sabotage through theatrical play.

I didn't object to confuzed out of insecurity, but because his posts clogged up the board with nonsense. I didn't read all his stuff but what I did read struck me as insincere and repetitive.

Narz, imagine if you will, somebody asks you for help doing a task for their first time, which you've done 1000s of times. You say yes and go to help them, when you are helping them suddenly they turn on you and start giving you a hard time, start telling you that you can't do the task, it's bad to do it that way and get really negative. Then they put on a wig and change their name, then ask you for help doing the same task, then do exactly the same thing. Then they put on a different wig, get a new name, and for help again. Every time you try to help somebody, you get drag through mud. What do you do?

TF1 has been unfairly targeted by this person, they did it as nedsin, they did it as confuzed, and he's tried to do it again as goldsplinter (goldsplinter, please feel free to prove me wrong, but you've already come across as foul mouthed jerk so you've got a long way to go). I don't think it has anything to do with insecuries in raw fooders, I think the primary purpose is to drive TF1 off the board, the secondary purpose to cause distruption and FUD about raw foods.

I don't like the idea of banning people (or removing posts/threads), but I think Bryan did the right thing, unfortunately it's not going to that effective. I wish this board had a feature where I could kill certain threads (so I wouldn't see them) and hide/ignore certain users (so I don't have to read any posts by them)

Another nice feature might be limiting the number of threads somebody can start in one day, this would help cut down on the number of junk threads.

Also, did a thread I was posting to get deleted? Or am I just blind today?

Maybe confuzed and nedsin will be happy at rawlovers.com? ;-)

my 2cents,

Ian.
P.S.: Goldsplinter, if you seriously want to know what TF1 eats look in the archives/older threads, he seems to get asked that about once a week.

sodoffsocks Wrote:
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> P.S.: Goldsplinter, if you seriously want to know
> what TF1 eats look in the archives/older threads,
> he seems to get asked that about once a week.


Thanks for that Ian....

To be fair to Confuzed I left on my own accord....simply because of the state of raw vegan forums in general, he was just the straw that broke the camels back....anyone that knows me knows that I've had much worse thrown at me!...

Love live life y'all.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2006 01:10PM by The Fruitarian One.

FI - you are a wonderful person and I wish you weren't leaving. I have learned a lot from you, and you have always been so nice.

Sad to see you go, but I understand why you are leaving. Best of luck to you!!!

Kim

F1 Don't leave...!

Well check in again sometimes, at least

Your knowledge & insights & experience are much appreciated!!!

I've learned alot from your posts!

--



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2006 05:03PM by sunshine79.

I've been reading these posts for a few years and haven't spoken up because I'm a pretty quiet person. But, on this I feel like it's important to tell F1 that I have really appreciated his extraordinary example of what can be done with eating pure. I'm hoping he is still reading these boards and will see this.

Whenever I read about F1's accomplishments, I am always telling my family, who are transitioning, about him so they too can be inspired. In my own workouts I have seen huge improvements and put F1 on a sort of pedestal. My husband now has a different opinion of fruitarians because of F1 and doesn't see them as pansies anymore and I see him beginning his own journey toward supreme health.

I just want to say that I am thankful for F1's effort and willingness to share his triumphs with us in order to inspire and motivate us.

F1. If you stay I would be happy, but understand if you leave. Will miss your posts.

solstrummr Wrote:
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> I've been reading these posts for a few years and
> haven't spoken up because I'm a pretty quiet
> person. But, on this I feel like it's important
> to tell F1 that I have really appreciated his
> extraordinary example of what can be done with
> eating pure. I'm hoping he is still reading these
> boards and will see this.
>
> Whenever I read about F1's accomplishments, I am
> always telling my family, who are transitioning,
> about him so they too can be inspired. In my own
> workouts I have seen huge improvements and put F1
> on a sort of pedestal. My husband now has a
> different opinion of fruitarians because of F1 and
> doesn't see them as pansies anymore and I see him
> beginning his own journey toward supreme health.
>
> I just want to say that I am thankful for F1's
> effort and willingness to share his triumphs with
> us in order to inspire and motivate us.
>
> F1. If you stay I would be happy, but understand
> if you leave. Will miss your posts.


Wow...that was so beautiful...that has really touched me...I'm truly honoured to be in your thoughts....

When I first started everybody told me I would never be successful but I always knew I would because I trusted my instincts/body to never do me wrong....don't let anyone hold you back or allow yourself to think your way out of achieving your goals....just trust your instincts and go for it!.....strive to keep positive and supportive people in your environment, as far as your workouts go always aim to step out of your comfort zone by increasing your workload with each workout otherwise your simply maintaining what you already have....keep on pushing!

TFO, I have not chosen your path for myself. And I don't always agree with your methods. But your attitude, your positive thinking, and your delivery are all very inspiring and I enjoy reading your posts. I hope you will not leave.

TFO - that was a pretty amazing post by solstrummr! Maybe you might want to re-think your decision. Those of us who post on here regularly might be the more vocal minority of a larger and more silent majority. If your heart is in the right place and you are about "giving" of yourself and your experiences (and I believe you are) then you can be assured that everytime you feel the urge or need or desire to share something, that there is someone who needs to hear it.

We all need to Keep the faith and not let trolls or nay-sayers get the better of us! Let's all focus on what we can give to the newcomer that we can't see but who most assuredly is out there! This ain't no game - for some this is a life and death issue.

Hang in there everybody!

Life Is Good!

alive!

I agree that the Fruitarian One should stay... but you can always take a break from the site, if you really want

like a five minute break

come back

that's it for me

Wow guys!

I'll just take a break for ten minutes!