Was this addressed to the Sproutarian?

RawPracticalist Wrote:
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> Was this addressed to the Sproutarian?

LOL!

jtprindl Wrote:
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> What about a 'meaty' meal of buckwheat groat
> sprouts and sprouted tahini? Sounds delicious lol,
> plus buckwheat is a great source of lecithin.

Great stuff.

THeSt0rm Wrote:
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> Isn't buckwheat+sesame a bad combination?

Sure is! Not something l would be doing. At least it is a start. Don't want to blow people out by making strict diet suggestions until they have adjusted to the diet alittle.

Most raw fooders LOVE bad food combinations, they are addicts where the stomach rules the mind.

l eat the plainest diet possible because l much prefer it that way. I eat for the power and glory because it is far more satisfying than trying to pamper to corrupted taste buds. l will not let my stomach rule me, l rule it because l want the power and glory. l love taking the emotion out of eating. l love to feul up with the finest food and move on.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2014 02:07AM by The Sproutarian Man.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> THeSt0rm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Isn't buckwheat+sesame a bad combination?
>
> Sure is! Not something l would be doing. At least
> it is a start. Don't want to blow people out by
> making strict diet suggestions until they have
> adjusted to the diet alittle.
>
> Most raw fooders LOVE bad food combinations, they
> are addicts where the stomach rules the mind.
>
> l eat the plainest diet possible because l much
> prefer it that way. I eat for the power and glory
> because it is far more satisfying than trying to
> pamper to corrupted taste buds. l will not
> let my stomach rule me, l rule it because l want
> the power and glory. l love taking the emotion out
> of eating. l love to feul up with the finest food
> and move on.


Why is it a bad combination?

What about quinoa sprouts and sprouted tahini? I've been practicing food combining for quite a while now so ALL suggestions are welcome

jtprindl Wrote:
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> What about quinoa sprouts and sprouted tahini?
> I've been practicing food combining for quite a
> while now so ALL suggestions are welcome

This is an extremely complicated subject, and eventhough scientists run down the idea of food combining, it tells me they still don't understand the workings of digestion and Ph properly.

Lets talk food combining for a moment and give some examples.

Eating proteins togeather
Meat digests in the stomach in humans at a Ph of 2, in meat eating animals it is 1. This tells us that humans can't properly digest meat.

Plant proteins require a Ph of 5.5 at the start of digestion, but later the acidity rises to 4. The problem is that Amylase (starch digesting enzyme) requires an alkaline Ph, so when plant proteins are combined with starchy foods the Amylase is too ineffective to digest the starch because of the acid environment of the stomach. This brings on fermentation.

Scientists say that this is all nonsense because they say everything ferments in the body, but it is not quite that simple. There seems to be different levels of fermentation occuring that leads to this disharmony, and l certainly feel the negative effects when l incombine meals.

People say that in nature plants have both starch and protein, so they say this theory is silly, but there is more to it than that. Nature almost always has one concentrated protein or starch per plant, but when you add in a meal of concentrated starches with concentrated proteins you get two concentrated foods, and the body doesn't handle it well in my experience.

Food incombining experiences

Nuts and seeds eaten togeather causes a loss of energy and slight gas. It's disharmony.

Fruit eaten with greens causes a disharmony and gas. HHI says it is the acid in the fruit which ferments the carbohydrates. Again, there seems to be different stages of fermentations, and this causes digestive disharmony. I once had a smoothie of green sprouts with an apple in it, but l learned to never try that again...looks like HHI is right on this.

Seeds eaten an hour after a banana is a disaster - major gas.

Eating pears 20 minutes after wheatgrass juice is a killer. Made that mistake once and never forgot it. Shocking stomach pain for 7 or 8 hours afterwards, weak and could hardly talk through the pain.

Seeds or nuts with grains causes loss of energy.
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Many people incombine meals and feel no effects because they get used to it imo. But when you perfectly combine everything, have good digestion, but you incombine something...your body tells you quickly.

Sorry to make such a fluffy post, but this is a complicated subject that scientists can't even get their heads around, and that is coming from a highly respected professor and doctor. And when you read scientists opinions on Ph levels it becomes clear they are far from being knowledgable on the subject.

Try eating watermelon after a meal of sesame and grain sprouts. Try telling me that food combining is nonsense after doing that.

good information, but that's like saying, running on rollerskates while juggling in a hurricane is very complicated and has to be done right. we must do studies and consult the experts.

It's just another way to try and be an expert, combined with the cultural practice of eating more than one food at a time.

all of this absurdity can be avoided by obvious means. but we do like things complicated don't we.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about quinoa sprouts and sprouted tahini?
> > I've been practicing food combining for quite a
> > while now so ALL suggestions are welcome
>
> This is an extremely complicated subject, and
> eventhough scientists run down the idea of food
> combining, it tells me they still don't understand
> the workings of digestion and Ph properly.
>
> Lets talk food combining for a moment and give
> some examples.
>
> Eating proteins togeather
> Meat digests in the stomach in humans at a Ph of
> 2, in meat eating animals it is 1. This tells us
> that humans can't properly digest meat.
>
> Plant proteins require a Ph of 5.5 at the start of
> digestion, but later the acidity rises to 4. The
> problem is that Amylase (starch digesting enzyme)
> requires an alkaline Ph, so when plant proteins
> are combined with starchy foods the Amylase is too
> ineffective to digest the starch because of the
> acid environment of the stomach. This brings on
> fermentation.
>
> Scientists say that this is all nonsense because
> they say everything ferments in the body, but it
> is not quite that simple. There seems to be
> different levels of fermentation occuring that
> leads to this disharmony, and l certainly feel the
> negative effects when l incombine meals.
>
> People say that in nature plants have both starch
> and protein, so they say this theory is silly, but
> there is more to it than that. Nature almost
> always has one concentrated protein or starch per
> plant, but when you add in a meal of concentrated
> starches with concentrated proteins you get two
> concentrated foods, and the body doesn't handle it
> well in my experience.
>
> Food incombining experiences
>
> Nuts and seeds eaten togeather causes a loss of
> energy and slight gas. It's disharmony.
>
> Fruit eaten with greens causes a disharmony and
> gas. HHI says it is the acid in the fruit which
> ferments the carbohydrates. Again, there seems to
> be different stages of fermentations, and this
> causes digestive disharmony. I once had a smoothie
> of green sprouts with an apple in it, but l
> learned to never try that again...looks like HHI
> is right on this.
>
> Seeds eaten an hour after a banana is a disaster -
> major gas.
>
> Eating pears 20 minutes after wheatgrass juice is
> a killer. Made that mistake once and never forgot
> it. Shocking stomach pain for 7 or 8 hours
> afterwards, weak and could hardly talk through the
> pain.
>
> Seeds or nuts with grains causes loss of energy.
> ------------
>
> Many people incombine meals and feel no effects
> because they get used to it imo. But when you
> perfectly combine everything, have good digestion,
> but you incombine something...your body tells you
> quickly.
>
> Sorry to make such a fluffy post, but this is a
> complicated subject that scientists can't even get
> their heads around, and that is coming from a
> highly respected professor and doctor. And when
> you read scientists opinions on Ph levels it
> becomes clear they are far from being knowledgable
> on the subject.
>
> Try eating watermelon after a meal of sesame and
> grain sprouts. Try telling me that food combining
> is nonsense after doing that.


Buckwheat groat sprouts aren't grains though, they are seeds. So it would be mixing seeds with seed butter (buckwheat groat sprouts and sprouted tahini)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/08/2014 12:13AM by jtprindl.

jtprindl Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > jtprindl Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What about quinoa sprouts and sprouted
> tahini?
> > > I've been practicing food combining for quite
> a
> > > while now so ALL suggestions are welcome
> >
> > This is an extremely complicated subject, and
> > eventhough scientists run down the idea of food
> > combining, it tells me they still don't
> understand
> > the workings of digestion and Ph properly.
> >
> > Lets talk food combining for a moment and give
> > some examples.
> >
> > Eating proteins togeather
> > Meat digests in the stomach in humans at a Ph
> of
> > 2, in meat eating animals it is 1. This tells
> us
> > that humans can't properly digest meat.
> >
> > Plant proteins require a Ph of 5.5 at the start
> of
> > digestion, but later the acidity rises to 4.
> The
> > problem is that Amylase (starch digesting
> enzyme)
> > requires an alkaline Ph, so when plant proteins
> > are combined with starchy foods the Amylase is
> too
> > ineffective to digest the starch because of the
> > acid environment of the stomach. This brings on
> > fermentation.
> >
> > Scientists say that this is all nonsense
> because
> > they say everything ferments in the body, but
> it
> > is not quite that simple. There seems to be
> > different levels of fermentation occuring that
> > leads to this disharmony, and l certainly feel
> the
> > negative effects when l incombine meals.
> >
> > People say that in nature plants have both
> starch
> > and protein, so they say this theory is silly,
> but
> > there is more to it than that. Nature almost
> > always has one concentrated protein or starch
> per
> > plant, but when you add in a meal of
> concentrated
> > starches with concentrated proteins you get two
> > concentrated foods, and the body doesn't handle
> it
> > well in my experience.
> >
> > Food incombining experiences
> >
> > Nuts and seeds eaten togeather causes a loss of
> > energy and slight gas. It's disharmony.
> >
> > Fruit eaten with greens causes a disharmony and
> > gas. HHI says it is the acid in the fruit which
> > ferments the carbohydrates. Again, there seems
> to
> > be different stages of fermentations, and this
> > causes digestive disharmony. I once had a
> smoothie
> > of green sprouts with an apple in it, but l
> > learned to never try that again...looks like
> HHI
> > is right on this.
> >
> > Seeds eaten an hour after a banana is a disaster
> -
> > major gas.
> >
> > Eating pears 20 minutes after wheatgrass juice
> is
> > a killer. Made that mistake once and never
> forgot
> > it. Shocking stomach pain for 7 or 8 hours
> > afterwards, weak and could hardly talk through
> the
> > pain.
> >
> > Seeds or nuts with grains causes loss of energy.
>
> > ------------
> >
> > Many people incombine meals and feel no effects
> > because they get used to it imo. But when you
> > perfectly combine everything, have good
> digestion,
> > but you incombine something...your body tells
> you
> > quickly.
> >
> > Sorry to make such a fluffy post, but this is a
> > complicated subject that scientists can't even
> get
> > their heads around, and that is coming from a
> > highly respected professor and doctor. And when
> > you read scientists opinions on Ph levels it
> > becomes clear they are far from being
> knowledgable
> > on the subject.
> >
> > Try eating watermelon after a meal of sesame
> and
> > grain sprouts. Try telling me that food
> combining
> > is nonsense after doing that.
>
>
> Buckwheat groat sprouts aren't grains though, they
> are seeds. So it would be mixing seeds with seed
> butter (buckwheat groat sprouts and sprouted
> tahini)

You are still mixing a concentrated protein with a concentrated starch. If it works for you and you enjoy the taste, keep on doing it.

www.thesproutarian.com

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> The
> problem is that Amylase (starch digesting enzyme)
> requires an alkaline Ph, so when plant proteins
> are combined with starchy foods the Amylase is too
> ineffective to digest the starch because of the
> acid environment of the stomach. This brings on
> fermentation.
>
> Starch begins breaking down in the mouth mostly because of Amylase in saliva. This is one reason it is so important to chew your food thoroughly. If a person has bad teeth or other metabolic problems that causes their saliva pH to be too acidic to accomplish this necessary pre-digestion that is supposed to occur in the mouth there are going to be complicating digestion problems.

Some African tribal peoples used to spit into their starchy root vegetables before they would eat them as part of their meal prep routine.

been making 8 oz nut milk, 1 tb chia and let soak for 15 minutes. They chia expand into a nice drink. Is this sprouting? I dont know.

coconutcream Wrote:
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> been making 8 oz nut milk, 1 tb chia and let soak
> for 15 minutes. They chia expand into a nice
> drink. Is this sprouting? I dont know.

I've heard they are called "soaks" until they have awoken enough from dormancy for a root to emerge from the seed.