[www.youtube.com]

Looks like a healthy 75 year old circa 2014.

He is the most inspirational raw fooder of anyone. Imo no-one speaks better, he speaks cosmic truth. He is living the life how we all can be. His bliss and peace of mind says it all...living like a child again. It's the sprouts, oh yes, it's the sprouts...+ the cosmic enlightenment...the love and joy comes out, just like how it did for Ann Wigmore and has for me.

Kulvinskas had massive health problems, but his dreams have come true. That's how we all can be...free spirit children that love life and love others because they have worked out the secret.

Dare to dream my brothers and sisters, and discover your inner greatness, and be happy and love one another. That's why we are doing raw...to make our lives extroadinary, because they can be. No drinking alcohol with Kulvinskas, a natural high.

a sprout diet?

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> He is the most inspirational raw fooder of anyone.
> Imo no-one speaks better, he speaks cosmic truth.
> He is living the life how we all can be. His bliss
> and peace of mind says it all...living like a
> child again. It's the sprouts, oh yes, it's the
> sprouts...+ the cosmic enlightenment...the love
> and joy comes out, just like how it did for Ann
> Wigmore and has for me.
>
> Kulvinskas had massive health problems, but his
> dreams have come true. That's how we all can
> be...free spirit children that love life and love
> others because they have worked out the secret.
>
> Dare to dream my brothers and sisters, and
> discover your inner greatness, and be happy and
> love one another. That's why we are doing raw...to
> make our lives extroadinary, because they can be.
> No drinking alcohol with Kulvinskas, a natural
> high.


I've heard David Wolfe on multiple occasions say that juiced wild grass can give you a huge natural high.

Wild weeds do create a natural high. Nothing like doing 120 oz of wild weed juice.

Weed/grass parties

On occasions l have hosted weed and wheatgrass parties. I'll harvest bunches 4 foot thistles as the main course (we juice them), and also juice wheatgrass and have a kelp chaser later on. Instead of men having beer on the back porch, we have weeds.

Other times a friend and a local farmer have weeds for lunch when we visit him. The farmer always ate weed sandwiches when he first came out from Italy.

A friend and myself will be going in the bush to meditate in a week or two. We'll bring a manual wheatgrass juicer and we'll consume a big quantity of weed juice before we meditate.

that's one of the people who taught me in 1977 .

life vs lifelessness

jtprindl


<<I've heard David Wolfe on multiple occasions say that juiced wild grass can give you a huge natural high.>>

yeah, i hear that weed can give u natural high
for sure

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> Weed/grass parties
>
> On occasions l have hosted weed and wheatgrass
> parties. I'll harvest bunches 4 foot thistles as
> the main course (we juice them), and also juice
> wheatgrass and have a kelp chaser later on.
> Instead of men having beer on the back porch, we
> have weeds.
>
> Other times a friend and a local farmer have weeds
> for lunch when we visit him. The farmer always ate
> weed sandwiches when he first came out from Italy.
>
>
> A friend and myself will be going in the bush to
> meditate in a week or two. We'll bring a manual
> wheatgrass juicer and we'll consume a big quantity
> of weed juice before we meditate.


"Weed" as in milk thistle or Maui Wowie?

Cheese weed, thistles, dandelion, nettle.

I found this beauty in my yard the other day.

Nettles?

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> Cheese weed, thistles, dandelion, nettle.
>
> I found this beauty in my yard the other day.
> [s10.postimg.org]


Those grow everywhere where I live, I never knew they were a source of nutrition. What are they?

I forget what they are called. I think they are some close relation to the dandelion. Also got other weeds around the yard.


Weeds are an great source of nutrition. They are very hardy and will survive in places most plants won't, for eg, the footpath crack in the above picture.

Dr Clement talks about weeds from 5:20 in this video. Weeds are very powerful and good nutrition - far superior to vegetables, but not quite as good as sprouts. I never eat vegetables, but l always eat the weeds as a substitute for vegetables.

Brian and Anna Maria Clement on fruits, sprouts and weeds
[www.youtube.com]


It's crazy how people dig out weeds from their garden and put inferior vegetables in. It should be the other way around - get rid of the veggies and grow a garden full of weeds.



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That is a thistle.

Just be careful not to eat weeds that may be exposed to toxins like in sprayed lawns, on sites that may contain heavy metals, or near major roads.

I always had respect for him. I was so pissed when John Stossel grilled him on his tv show. He wrote some pretty trippy books, even a fruitarian one consisting of letters from his readers.

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> I always had respect for him. I was so pissed when
> John Stossel grilled him on his tv show. He wrote
> some pretty trippy books, even a fruitarian one
> consisting of letters from his readers.


I saw that interview. Stossel tried to make him look bad but only did it to himself.

If alternative folks get involved with these media people they are bound to be made fools of. Kulvinskas should have known better.

I heard stories of the media trying to make Ann Wigmore out to be a fool in the 1980's, but she was quick witted and would turn the tables on the interviewers and make them look silly.

One rule l have is never talk to mainstream media about alternative lifestyles because you are talking to ignorant people who will try to bite you. Let the mainstream stay with the mainstream.

Here is the interview where they try putting raw fooders and Kulvinskas in a poor light.

Healthy Food, Unhealthy Obsession: Pt. 1
[abcnews.go.com]

Healthy Food, Unhealthy Obsession: Pt. 2
[abcnews.go.com]


From here:
[www.thegardendiet.com]

I love how these people always enjoy giving a name to a `so called' condition like orthorexia. It's a good way to put people down and make them feel insecure about themselves so they can go and see a psychiatrist and get medicated. The mainstream media, mainstream medicine and all their dodgy terms and universities and their flawed nonsense teachings want to put people in a box...and if you dare step out of it you are made to be off-the-rails and a freak. They want us eating the meat, on the chemicals, drinking the flouridated water and on the medications so we never wake up to anything. The mainstream does not serve our interests very well.

Ask a psychiatrist these questions and expose their pseudoscience fraud.

* what is the mind?
* where is the mind?
* what is a thought?
* where does a thought come from?

If they can't answer those questions then how can they diagnose conditions??? I hope people wake up to the scams and these false terminologies. They are trying to put people back inside the box under `the system' they serve. The mainstream media serve `the system'.



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The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> If alternative folks get involved with these media
> people they are bound to be made fools of.
> Kulvinskas should have known better.
>
> I heard stories of the media trying to make Ann
> Wigmore out to be a fool in the 1980's, but she
> was quick witted and would turn the tables on the
> interviewers and make them look silly.
>
> One rule l have is never talk to mainstream media
> about alternative lifestyles because you are
> talking to ignorant people who will try to bite
> you. Let the mainstream stay with the mainstream.

I should have clarified: Stossel looked like a tool to me. Viktor was fine. He's a bit "different", to say the least. But everytime I watch one of this videos, I totally resonate with it.

banana who Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If alternative folks get involved with these
> media
> > people they are bound to be made fools of.
> > Kulvinskas should have known better.
> >
> > I heard stories of the media trying to make Ann
> > Wigmore out to be a fool in the 1980's, but she
> > was quick witted and would turn the tables on
> the
> > interviewers and make them look silly.
> >
> > One rule l have is never talk to mainstream
> media
> > about alternative lifestyles because you are
> > talking to ignorant people who will try to bite
> > you. Let the mainstream stay with the
> mainstream.
>
> I should have clarified: Stossel looked like a
> tool to me. Viktor was fine. He's a bit
> "different", to say the least. But everytime I
> watch one of this videos, I totally resonate with
> it.

I love Kulvinskas. He doesn't try to be careful, he just says it as he sees it. He is my favourite raw food speaker because he brings up the spiritual along with raw foods and isn't afraid to be `out there'. In contrast, Brian Clement is much more careful.

Kulvinskas resonates with me completely, it is like the stuff l would talk about if l had the guts. He is a lovable eccentric and many of his videos are brilliant.

Kulvinskas allowed me to dream an almost impossible dream, and now that dream has become a reality. Wigmore motivated me, and Kulvinskas allowed me to dream....MASSIVE raw food influences. They were like legends to me growing up...heros in fact, especially Ann Wigmore. The only thing which makes me feel alittle sad was that l never got to meet her....wanted to meet her more than any other person. I can feel her spirit so strongly all the time, and her love comes out in her books...she come out as the ultimate raw food success story, the love, the spirituality, the energy and enthusiasm...she seemed to have what we all want. Dr Ann stirs my emotions like no other....l want to live my life how she did, and that is starting to happen. My love for that lady and her legacy know no bounds. To me she is the legend of the legends. The stories about her are incredible, one of a kind.



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The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> banana who Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If alternative folks get involved with these
> > media
> > > people they are bound to be made fools of.
> > > Kulvinskas should have known better.
> > >
> > > I heard stories of the media trying to make
> Ann
> > > Wigmore out to be a fool in the 1980's, but
> she
> > > was quick witted and would turn the tables on
> > the
> > > interviewers and make them look silly.
> > >
> > > One rule l have is never talk to mainstream
> > media
> > > about alternative lifestyles because you are
> > > talking to ignorant people who will try to
> bite
> > > you. Let the mainstream stay with the
> > mainstream.
> >
> > I should have clarified: Stossel looked like a
> > tool to me. Viktor was fine. He's a bit
> > "different", to say the least. But everytime I
> > watch one of this videos, I totally resonate
> with
> > it.
>
> I love Kulvinskas. He doesn't try to be careful,
> he just says it as he sees it. He is my favourite
> raw food speaker because he brings up the
> spiritual along with raw foods and isn't afraid to
> be `out there'. In contrast, Brian Clement is much
> more careful.
>
> Kulvinskas resonates with me completely, it is
> like the stuff l would talk about if l had the
> guts. He is a lovable eccentric and many of
> his videos are brilliant.
>
> Kulvinskas allowed me to dream an almost
> impossible dream, and now that dream has become a
> reality. Wigmore motivated me, and Kulvinskas
> allowed me to dream....MASSIVE raw food
> influences. They were like legends to me growing
> up...heros in fact, especially Ann Wigmore. The
> only thing which makes me feel alittle sad was
> that l never got to meet her....wanted to meet her
> more than any other person. I can feel her spirit
> so strongly all the time, and her love comes out
> in her books...she come out as the ultimate raw
> food success story, the love, the spirituality,
> the energy and enthusiasm...she seemed to have
> what we all want. Dr Ann stirs my emotions like no
> other....l want to live my life how she did, and
> that is starting to happen. My love for that lady
> and her legacy know no bounds. To me she is the
> legend of the legends. The stories about her are
> incredible, one of a kind.


Spot-on post! I agree! Every time I pick up "Survival into the 21st Century," which came out in the '70s, it blows my mind how all the stuff we are still talking about today was in that book! And it's not mainstream info, either. It's like still obscure but it was revealed decades ago. Yes, the inclusion of the spiritual dimension is crucial to this diet, IMO. It's like yoga without spirituality. Pretty shallow and almost dead practice.

banana who Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > banana who Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If alternative folks get involved with
> these
> > > media
> > > > people they are bound to be made fools of.
> > > > Kulvinskas should have known better.
> > > >
> > > > I heard stories of the media trying to make
> > Ann
> > > > Wigmore out to be a fool in the 1980's, but
> > she
> > > > was quick witted and would turn the tables
> on
> > > the
> > > > interviewers and make them look silly.
> > > >
> > > > One rule l have is never talk to mainstream
> > > media
> > > > about alternative lifestyles because you
> are
> > > > talking to ignorant people who will try to
> > bite
> > > > you. Let the mainstream stay with the
> > > mainstream.
> > >
> > > I should have clarified: Stossel looked like
> a
> > > tool to me. Viktor was fine. He's a bit
> > > "different", to say the least. But everytime
> I
> > > watch one of this videos, I totally resonate
> > with
> > > it.
> >
> > I love Kulvinskas. He doesn't try to be
> careful,
> > he just says it as he sees it. He is my
> favourite
> > raw food speaker because he brings up the
> > spiritual along with raw foods and isn't afraid
> to
> > be `out there'. In contrast, Brian Clement is
> much
> > more careful.
> >
> > Kulvinskas resonates with me completely, it is
> > like the stuff l would talk about if l had the
> > guts. He is a lovable eccentric and many of
> > his videos are brilliant.
> >
> > Kulvinskas allowed me to dream an almost
> > impossible dream, and now that dream has become
> a
> > reality. Wigmore motivated me, and Kulvinskas
> > allowed me to dream....MASSIVE raw food
> > influences. They were like legends to me
> growing
> > up...heros in fact, especially Ann Wigmore. The
> > only thing which makes me feel alittle sad was
> > that l never got to meet her....wanted to meet
> her
> > more than any other person. I can feel her
> spirit
> > so strongly all the time, and her love comes
> out
> > in her books...she come out as the ultimate raw
> > food success story, the love, the spirituality,
> > the energy and enthusiasm...she seemed to have
> > what we all want. Dr Ann stirs my emotions like
> no
> > other....l want to live my life how she did,
> and
> > that is starting to happen. My love for that
> lady
> > and her legacy know no bounds. To me she is the
> > legend of the legends. The stories about her
> are
> > incredible, one of a kind.
>
>
> Spot-on post! I agree! Every time I pick up
> "Survival into the 21st Century," which came out
> in the '70s, it blows my mind how all the stuff we
> are still talking about today was in that book!
> And it's not mainstream info, either. It's like
> still obscure but it was revealed decades ago.
> Yes, the inclusion of the spiritual dimension is
> crucial to this diet, IMO. It's like yoga without
> spirituality. Pretty shallow and almost dead
> practice.

Exactly. Kulvinskas, Hotema and Wigmore are/were enlightened people, and with that comes the true purpose of their writings. These people were connected and always spoke lots about the spiritual because that by far is the most important. The raw foods are only a small part of the big picture.

I don't really focus on the food, l am not really interested in that as a subject, it's mainly about the spiritual to me. The raw food movement is full of unenlightened folks with SAD mentalities (btw, that is not a negative criticism because it needs to be that way), and with that comes a focus on food and only brief mentions of the spritual. It is such an empty movement that seems to be missing the whole point of the raw food lifestyle...it seems to be more about health for most folks. That's why most of the raw leaders are of very little interest to me, and that's why l resonate so much with Wigmore and Kulvinskas...they `get it' because they did raw on a deep level where spiritual realisations were discovered...they `got it' because they `did it'.

Many do raw foods on such a superficial level, it's hardly scratching the surface of what can be. There are some really amazing raw fooders out there, but they won't come onto the interet and talk with other raw fooders because the lifestyle promoted is empty and close to dead. I don't even want to be here, but l want to give people a different refreshing perspective on raw foods that is not often talked about....that's what l am supposed to do...to be a younger generation of a Kulvinskas and Wigmore and to buck this sad modern day trends and thinking in the raw movement.

I know l said it straight and said it tough, but ahhh, we can go so much deeper and do it so much better. Most people won't run with it, but some people are, and it makes my internet presence bearable. A man wrote to me this morning, and he is running with it, and he'll be flying soon. It makes the drudgery so worth while...to touch lives in a special way that goes wayyy beyond raw foods. He gets it, various people get it, l get it, you get it, but most don't get it yet.

I really need to keep away from here and focus on my own site.

www.thesproutarian.com



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repeatedly saying who gets it and who doesn't get it.

maybe the people who you say don't get it, get it in their own way for now.

you wish for everyone to be like you? to get it? the world would be a wonderful place?

all this
putting people on different levels.

check that ego again. maybe some more meditation would help.

just a thought. not my thought, it just passed through me, it was in the ether.

I don't think it's raw food that makes one more spiritual, but deeply cleansing the body and decalcifying the pineal gland so we can tap into the 'universal cosmic energy'. When our bodies electrical frequency is so low, whether it's unhealthy food or stress/negative attitudes, we're not able to receive any of this energy because our sensitivity is so dulled due to being clogged up (physically, emotionally, psychologically, etc.).

People need to live the lifestyle they need to live, ie, they need to be themselves and go on their path.

What l do is talk about the mainstream raw lifestyle for what it is, because l would be saddened to think that folks only see the eating of raw foods as the pinacle of such a lifestyle. There is so much more to it than how the raw leaders simplify it to be. Ie, the mainstream raw movement is based on convenience, buying food grown by other people, getting away from gardening skills we once had, being ruled by the taste buds, not harnessing the `true power' of raw foods, and much of the movement is also based on eating and eating and eating (being a slave to food). Lots of talk about foods, but what about the other factors? It's no wonder raw fooders describe it as like being in a prison.

Eating fresh is important. Growing your own food is very important because it provides a connection and love and greatfulness to the food that would otherwise be empty (hard to put into words). Meditation and refection is important. The whole lifestyle is important.

It's never been about me, it is the message which flows through me. I am a mere messenger, never the guru. I am saying nothing new, l just give reminders to remember who and what we are. Are we the machine l described above in the modern day raw food teaching systems, or are we more than that?

Packet food, convenience, being ruled by food, being an SAD version of raw...that is not who we are.



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Seems to me the raw food world is overflowing with people either gushing about spiritual messages the universe has told them they just must emote and, balancing that out on the teeter totter, athletically inclined runners and/or bike riders who go on about physical performance and muscle mass who seem equally religious about their own take on the raw food matter.

Now my question is, after watching the b'day party video, why can't raw fooders dance for @#$%&? Lord, that was painful to watch.



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TSM, how long have you been on a sproutarian diet?

I do wonder why some raw fooders think that walking on your hands is something to aspire to. Personally l have more important things to do than walking on my hands, developing massive muscles, chasing a ball on a piece of grass (sport), and running and cycling further faster than anyone else has ever done. But each to heir's own. (said with some sarcasm and cheek, but in a loving way).

I think the athletic folks are much higher in numbers than the spiritual talk folks.

I don't see why all this athletic achievement is so important....is it to say l can do this better than you? And if you can run faster than anyone else, why does it matter and what does it achieve? If you practise something over ande over for long enough, l am sure you will become good at it, but is their any dep purpose or is it more superficial?

As long as l do some exercise each day and maintain myself, that's what really matters. And instead of walking on my hands, l would rather just walk on my legs because that's what we are meant to do.

when you feel great, exercise makes you feel even better. I just don't understand people who don't understand the quality aspect of exercise. it feels great. no need to meditate, look for super theories, or anything. just have fun.