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pomegranate season
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: October 22, 2014 01:18AM

I got a box of them. I love their ancient look as compare to the usual fruits. POM brand (USA). I eat them like a melon.

I took a quick lok, if you have CVD or diabetes, they help a lot:

Pomegranate juice consumption for 3 years by patients with carotid artery stenosis reduces common carotid intima-media thickness, blood pressure and LDL oxidation. [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Effect of pomegranate juice on paraoxonase enzyme activity in patients with type 2 diabetes.: [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: banana who ()
Date: October 22, 2014 01:42AM

Last year I just saw the smaller ones. I prefer them to be big so that all that trouble of peeling the layers yields easier access to seeds. The smaller ones seem to have very tight membranes or so it seems to me...

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 22, 2014 01:43AM

This is a delicious pomegranate recipe. Give it a whorl in the VitaMix and it makes a fantastic soup. VERY potent medicine. Better have been eating clean for a long time though not to go through detox the next day with this one unless you cut way back on the peppercorns.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: October 22, 2014 02:29AM

These pomegranates are huge. Probably smaller ones are better.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 22, 2014 03:24AM

I like the big ones better. I cut them in half at their equators, hold them cut side down in the palm of my hand over a big bowl and then pound the peel side with a small hammer that one of my brothers or other made in shop class about 30 years ago. All the seeds fall out between my fingers and fall into the bowl with no mess. Takes less than 15 seconds per half. Once you get the hang of it and learn where and how hard to hit it takes 6 seconds.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:28AM

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Jewish tradition teaches that the pomegranate is a symbol of righteousness because it is said to have 613 seeds, which corresponds with the 613 mitzvot, or commandments, of the Torah. For this reason and others, it is customary to eat pomegranates on Rosh Hashanah. Moreover, the pomegranate represents fruitfulness, knowledge, learning, and wisdom.
Interestingly, many Jewish scholars believe that the pomegranate was the “forbidden fruit” of the Garden of Eden. Furthermore, the pomegranate is listed in the Bible as one of the seven species (shivat haminim) of fruits and grains that are special products of the Land of Israel
[www.jewishgiftplace.com]

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 22, 2014 06:38PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> This is a delicious pomegranate recipe. Give it a
> whorl in the VitaMix and it makes a fantastic
> soup. VERY potent medicine. Better have been
> eating clean for a long time though not to go
> through detox the next day with this one unless
> you cut way back on the peppercorns.

[www.youtube.com]


****Thanks to everyone who reminded me I forgot to put the recipe video up. I appreciate it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2014 06:42PM by SueZ.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:10PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is a delicious pomegranate recipe. Give it
> a
> > whorl in the VitaMix and it makes a fantastic
> > soup. VERY potent medicine. Better have been
> > eating clean for a long time though not to go
> > through detox the next day with this one unless
> > you cut way back on the peppercorns.
>
> [www.youtube.com]
>
>
> ****Thanks to everyone who reminded me I forgot to
> put the recipe video up. I appreciate it.


Lol at first I was a bit confused but then thought you might've meant simply just making pure pomegranate soup.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:40PM

I enjoy Tavis' energy and calmness and liked his message at the end of that video. Plus the dish looked delicious.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:54PM

Fruits and oils do not combine properly.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:07PM

CommonSenseRaw Wrote:
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> Fruits and oils do not combine properly.


Evidence? Oils can actually enhance the absorption of the powerful phytochemicals found in fruits and veggies.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: CommonSenseRaw ()
Date: October 22, 2014 10:50PM

Would not oils slow down the digestion of fruits?
Fruits digest in less than an hour, oils take hours.
Fruits staying longer in digestive system than they need to will generate more AGEs

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 22, 2014 11:19PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> I enjoy Tavis' energy and calmness and liked his
> message at the end of that video. Plus the dish
> looked delicious.

Tavis seems to me to be a very good man. He's especially advanced, IMO.

I just had the dish, in soup form, and will have it again tomorrow. There really seems to be magic in the combination. Today I had some black walnuts with it on the side. I liked that with it, too. I wouldn't worry one bit about food combining theory with all the antioxidants and natural preservatives in this medicinal dish - not that I buy into that theory anyway.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 22, 2014 11:21PM

CommonSenseRaw Wrote:
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> Would not oils slow down the digestion of fruits?
> Fruits digest in less than an hour, oils take
> hours.
> Fruits staying longer in digestive system than
> they need to will generate more AGEs


What credible source do you know of that says combining pure oils with fruit generates AGE's or that they take hours to digest? There's a difference between pure oils and the whole food. Many phytochemicals are fat-soluble and their bioavailability is increased when combined with oils. Even if overall digestion was slower, that wouldn't suggest the creation of AGE's. Nonetheless, research indicates that most AGE's in the body are NOT from foods and dietary AGE's are quickly eliminating through the bowels/urine.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: October 23, 2014 12:02AM

This is a bad dish.
The Natural Hygienists would vomit.
Oil, avocado, pepper, oranges, pomegranate, and I may have missed couple of items.
It is beautiful to look at but bad for the body.
What is medicinal about it?

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 23, 2014 12:21AM

"It is beautiful to look at but bad for the body."

This statement is backed up by absolutely nothing, pure Natural Hygiene dogma.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 23, 2014 12:43AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I enjoy Tavis' energy and calmness and liked
> his
> > message at the end of that video. Plus the dish
> > looked delicious.
>
> Tavis seems to me to be a very good man. He's
> especially advanced, IMO.
>
> I just had the dish, in soup form, and will have
> it again tomorrow. There really seems to be magic
> in the combination. Today I had some black walnuts
> with it on the side. I liked that with it, too. I
> wouldn't worry one bit about food combining theory
> with all the antioxidants and natural
> preservatives in this medicinal dish - not that I
> buy into that theory anyway.


I think there's some truth to food combining but it's not as strict as many websites claim it is. I also think coconut oil is unique due to its medium-chain fats and goes well with almost anything. Not sure if I'd ever get to trying this, but what would you think of a modified version which includes pomegranate seeds/juice, coconut oil, ginger, and curcumin? I believe the curcumin and ginger have synergistic effects as well. Maybe some cinnamon too lol. Curcumin, by the way, is a potent inhibitor of AGE's.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2014 12:44AM by jtprindl.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 23, 2014 01:22AM

Not sure if I'd ever get to trying this,
> but what would you think of a modified version
> which includes pomegranate seeds/juice, coconut
> oil, ginger, and curcumin?

Well, you know, with the Conductivity Diet I get plenty of coconut oil, ginger, and turmeric every day so I'm not lacking in those at all. I would suggest, just as anytime you're dealing with a new recipe created by someone who knows what they are doing both for medicinal value and blending of tastes, as Tavis does, to first try the recipe as given, so you'll know what works, and then try variations later based on what you learn from that.

I have experimented with it often and personally do always substitute water and xylitol for the orange juice just to keep my blood sugar down. I have made the dish with fresh turmeric root and liked the taste but the medicinal component, due to the peppercorn/curcumin synergy, was just way too potent for me. The first thing I thought, after doing that, was yeah I now know why Tavis left the turmeric out, lol.

One thing with the coconut oil is that you really do have to swish it around in your mouth for a long time to get the full benefits due to the enzymes to break it down being mostly under the tongue in the mouth. So for this dish I don't think it would be really good medicinally and just so-so, at best, for taste. But these are just my thoughts based on my experiences and speculation from being a life long foody. If you are interested, there are whole books written on taste synergies of foods/foods and foods/spices that are worth exploring for guidance that can save you a lot bad experiment time.

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Re: pomegranate season
Date: October 23, 2014 01:41AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> jtprindl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I enjoy Tavis' energy and calmness and liked
> his
> > message at the end of that video. Plus the dish
> > looked delicious.
>
> Tavis seems to me to be a very good man. He's
> especially advanced, IMO.
>
> I just had the dish, in soup form, and will have
> it again tomorrow. There really seems to be magic
> in the combination. Today I had some black walnuts
> with it on the side. I liked that with it, too. I
> wouldn't worry one bit about food combining theory
> with all the antioxidants and natural
> preservatives in this medicinal dish - not that I
> buy into that theory anyway.


I shall be trying out some of Tavis' dishes so l can compare his food energies to mine. Personally l don't think his ideas are a touch on my own, not even close, but l will remain open minded and see how they effect me over a week or more.

Personally, l feel Tavis' diet ideas are cringeworthy and ordinary (my intuition speaking here), but l will put my bias aside and try them so l can see if there are some magic in this dishes. If there is advanced magic l will say so. I just want to know the truth.

www.thesproutarian.com

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:21AM

Suez, tell us more about the parasite

SueZ Wrote:
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> You may or my not like the taste of the dishes but
> as to the magic - if you haven't cleared out first
> from the fermented foods and the urine - I don't
> think you are going to be too happy of a camper
> with this medicinal food - especially if you try
> to do it full strength. Might be too much of a
> detox for you after so long on a bland parasite
> friendly diet. You've got to work up to these
> things in small increments. One week is not going
> to be a fair test that will lead to any truth
> higher than a better knowledge of your own
> constitution I'm afraid. As Tavis said "this is no
> joy ride".

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:31AM

"Many long time raw food eaters who were members at his site were unable even to do the tonics without having to backtrack and first go through a pretty scary remedial cleanse before they could even take the tonics."

I don't know, I take AFA blue-green algae and chlorella everyday and sprout/grass juices nearly every day, along with occasional systemic enzymes on an empty stomach and distilled water everyday. I've also had my fair share of nearly pure (95-98%) curcumin and super foods and regularly engage in intermittent fasting, so I feel I've cleansed out a lot, but I'm sure I still have lots to detox after being on the SAD for 19 years. I wish I had the money/resources to dedicate an entire month towards fasting on mostly sprout/grass juices, algae's, coconut/distilled water, along with coffee enema's, infrared sauna's and colon hydrotherapy on a daily basis.

"Well, you know, with the Conductivity Diet I get plenty of coconut oil, ginger, and turmeric every day so I'm not lacking in those at all."

How do you normally incorporate the ginger?



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Re: pomegranate season
Date: October 23, 2014 02:34AM

SueZ Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is a delicious pomegranate recipe. Give it
> a
> > whorl in the VitaMix and it makes a fantastic
> > soup. VERY potent medicine. Better have been
> > eating clean for a long time though not to go
> > through detox the next day with this one unless
> > you cut way back on the peppercorns.
>
> [www.youtube.com]
>
>
> ****Thanks to everyone who reminded me I forgot to
> put the recipe video up. I appreciate it.

I can apreciate the role of pepper and various things, but why focus a meal on all non fresh foods and packet ingredients. What about electrical frequency of FRESH foods and high phytochemcials foods etc?

Would you rather FRESH potent liver healing sprout juices or non fresh packet food and non fresh fruits from shops? I think our common sense will tell us the answer.

Would you rather throw a bunch on ingredients together like an unconscious man or would you rather bring harmony to a meal by keeping it simple.

How does using all non fresh ingredients bring "conductivity"? And what is "conductivity"

I shall participate in some of his dishes and l will be interested in seeing if so many added non fresh foods create harmony and energy. My intuition tells me this man uses buzz words to bring partially conscious man into marketing of questionable concepts that go contrary to common sense, but we shall see. When l eat the food l will quickly know.

www.thesproutarian.com

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:43AM

Panchito Wrote:
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> Suez, tell us more about the parasite
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You may or my not like the taste of the dishes
> but
> > as to the magic - if you haven't cleared out
> first
> > from the fermented foods and the urine - I
> don't
> > think you are going to be too happy of a camper
> > with this medicinal food - especially if you
> try
> > to do it full strength. Might be too much of a
> > detox for you after so long on a bland parasite
> > friendly diet. You've got to work up to these
> > things in small increments. One week is not
> going
> > to be a fair test that will lead to any truth
> > higher than a better knowledge of your own
> > constitution I'm afraid. As Tavis said "this is
> no
> > joy ride".

Tavis says parasites love fermented foods. He says eating fermented foods is not good for us - it's good for our parasites.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:45AM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> > How do you normally incorporate the ginger?

The ginger is always in tonic #2 with the cayenne and the turmeric. There are salad dressings/soups with ginger in them, too. And, of course, in green juices.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:52AM

[www.nytimes.com]

Parasites Practicing Mind Control
AUG. 28, 2014

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An unassuming single-celled organism called Toxoplasma gondii is one of the most successful parasites on Earth, infecting an estimated 11 percent of Americans and perhaps half of all people worldwide. It’s just as prevalent in many other species of mammals and birds. In a recent study in Ohio, scientists found the parasite in three-quarters of the white-tailed deer they studied.

One reason for Toxoplasma’s success is its ability to manipulate its hosts. The parasite can influence their behavior, so much so that hosts can put themselves at risk of death. Scientists first discovered this strange mind control in the 1990s, but it’s been hard to figure out how they manage it. Now a new study suggests that Toxoplasma can turn its host’s genes on and off — and it’s possible other parasites use this strategy, too.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Tavis says parasites love fermented foods. He says
> eating fermented foods is not good for us - it's
> good for our parasites.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: October 23, 2014 03:06AM

Well Tavis is wrong on many things.
Adding oils to food is not the only one.
Well fermented foods have digestive enzymes and many cultures in the history of the world have discovered the value of fermented foods.
More than anybody can teach us, we have to find what make sense.



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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 23, 2014 03:15AM

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This is a delicious pomegranate recipe. Give
> it
> > a
> > > whorl in the VitaMix and it makes a fantastic
> > > soup. VERY potent medicine. Better have been
> > > eating clean for a long time though not to go
> > > through detox the next day with this one
> unless
> > > you cut way back on the peppercorns.
> >
> > [www.youtube.com]
> >
> >
> > ****Thanks to everyone who reminded me I forgot
> to
> > put the recipe video up. I appreciate it.
>
> I can apreciate the role of pepper and various
> things, but why focus a meal on all non fresh
> foods and packet ingredients. What about
> electrical frequency of FRESH foods and high
> phytochemcials foods etc?
>
> Would you rather FRESH potent liver healing sprout
> juices or non fresh packet food and non fresh
> fruits from shops? I think our common sense will
> tell us the answer.
>
> Would you rather throw a bunch on ingredients
> together like an unconscious man or would you
> rather bring harmony to a meal by keeping it
> simple.
>
> How does using all non fresh ingredients bring
> "conductivity"? And what is "conductivity"
>
> I shall participate in some of his dishes and l
> will be interested in seeing if so many added non
> fresh foods create harmony and energy. My
> intuition tells me this man uses buzz words to
> bring partially conscious man into marketing of
> questionable concepts that go contrary to common
> sense, but we shall see. When l eat the food l
> will quickly know.



For Pete's sake calm down and try to contain yourself - there is nothing here to huff and puff up about. Just be careful with the amounts of parasite unfriendly ingredients you use in your experiment since you've decided to rush right in with these recipes without having cleared yourself from the fermented foods and not having had the benefit of the tonics which is a major component of the Conductivity Diet, or even seemingly, based on what you are saying here, to have investigated the diet on your own at all.

Are you alluding to a notion you have that Tavis is unconscious and just throwing ingredients together or something?

Are you saying that harmony is simplistic?! Are you serious? Tell it to Wagner or Bach.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: October 23, 2014 03:19AM

"Adding oils to food is not the only one."

Why is this wrong and can you please provide some solid evidence as to why it is so? It's not "natural"? Well, do you juice? Where in nature can you find pure juice?

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: October 23, 2014 11:30AM

You could hardly find a single case of people seating at dinner table and eating oils. People do juice fast for weeks.

You could not eat oils until you get full. You could actually die.
Oil is not a food.

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Re: pomegranate season
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:18PM

Panchito Wrote:
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> [www.nytimes.com]
> s-practicing-mind-control.html?_r=0
>
> Parasites Practicing Mind Control
> AUG. 28, 2014
>
> An unassuming single-celled organism called
> Toxoplasma gondii is one of the most successful
> parasites on Earth, infecting an estimated 11
> percent of Americans and perhaps half of all
> people worldwide. It’s just as prevalent in many
> other species of mammals and birds. In a recent
> study in Ohio, scientists found the parasite in
> three-quarters of the white-tailed deer they
> studied.
>
> One reason for Toxoplasma’s success is its
> ability to manipulate its hosts. The parasite can
> influence their behavior, so much so that hosts
> can put themselves at risk of death. Scientists
> first discovered this strange mind control in the
> 1990s, but it’s been hard to figure out how they
> manage it. Now a new study suggests that
> Toxoplasma can turn its host’s genes on and off
> — and it’s possible other parasites use this
> strategy, too.
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tavis says parasites love fermented foods. He
> says
> > eating fermented foods is not good for us -
> it's
> > good for our parasites.

Tavis says that in his work parasites are his specialty.

Dealing with parasites is not a good place for amateur hour. They have been around a lot longer than we have and can certainly use us, too, to their own purposes.

Reading this book has opened a lot of eyes. It's amazing and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in learning more about parasites...

[www.amazon.com]

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