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The Hollywood 48-Hour Miracle Diet

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Gallstones and VLCDs

The studies reviewed at the conference also found that VLCDs (Very Low Calorie Diets) are associated with an increased risk for gallstones (Wadden 1993). Other sources also reported the increase risk of gallstones by people on a VLCD. Though many of these studies looked at VLCD that lasted for weeks rather than a few days, they do raise some concern. There is no warning with the Hollywood Diet that repeated use of the diet every two days could have health risks like those seen in VLCDs that last for weeks or months. The product covers itself from not mentioning possible risks by stating that a doctor should supervise the diet. Marti reports that rapid weight loss and lowfat diets increase the cases of gallstone formation and gallbladder inflammation (Marti 1997).

According to the Alimentary Pharmacology & Therapeutics, Supplement, there is a “threshold of fat” required for the gall bladder to empty efficiently. At least 10 grams of fat are needed per day to keep the gall bladder functioning correctly, and this is also the amount required for FDA approval. The researchers found that between 11%-36% of obese patients who lost weight rapidly formed gallstones. Obesity can lead to gallstone disease, but the risk increases greatly when there is rapid weight loss (Pazzi 2000).

Some of the testimonials about the Hollywood Diet are people saying they are going to use the diet once a week or once a month. The majority of people looking to lose 10 pounds in 2 days is probably not the morbidly obese and most likely will not be supervised by a doctor. People that reported the most significant results from the Hollywood Diet were on the diet two days and off the diet two days. People that are consistently on the diet every two days would be at higher risk for gallstones and other health risks associated with VLCDs.

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WEIGHT LOSS AND GALLSTONES

Overweight people are at greater risk of developing gallstones that people of average weight. However, people who are considering a diet program requiring very low intake of calories each day should be aware that during rapid or substantial weight loss, a person's risk of developing gallstones is increased.

Gallstones are clumps of solid material that form in the gallbladder. They may occur as a single, large stone or many small ones. Gallstones are a mixture of compounds, but typically they are mostly cholesterol. Most people with gallstones don't know they have them and experience no symptoms. For an unfortunate minority, however, gallstones can cause painful attacks.

Gallstones develop in the gallbladder. The gallbladder stores and releases bile into the intestine to aid digestion. Bile is a fluid made by the liver that helps in digestion. Bile contains substances called bile salts that act like natural detergents to break down fats in the food we eat. As food passes from the stomach into the small intestine the gallbladder releases bile into the bile ducts. These ducts, or tubes, run from the liver to the intestine. Bile also helps eliminate excess cholesterol from the body. The liver secretes cholesterol into the bile, which is then eliminated from the body via the digestive system.

Most researchers believe three conditions are necessary to form. Most researchers believe three conditions are necessary to form gallstones. First, the bile becomes supersaturated with cholesterol, which means the bile contains more cholesterol than the bile salts can dissolve. Second, an imbalance of proteins or other substances in the bile causes the cholesterol to start to crystallize. Third, the gallbladder does not contract enough to empty its bile regularly.

Are Obese People More Likely To Develop Gallstones? Yes. Obesity is a strong risk factor for gallstones. The more obese a person is, the greater his or her risk is of developing gallstones. Why obesity is a risk factor for gallstones is unclear. But researchers believe that in obese people, the liver produces too much cholesterol. The excess cholesterol leads to supersaturation in the gallbladder.

People who lose a lot of weight rapidly are at greater risk for developing gallstones. Gallstones are one of the most medically important complications of voluntary weight loss.

Why Does Weight Loss Cause Gallstones? Researchers believe dieting may cause a shift in the balance of bile salts and cholesterol in the gallbladder. The cholesterol level is increased and the amount of bile salts is decreased. Going for long periods without eating also may decrease gallbladder contractions. If the gallbladder does not contract often enough to empty out the bile gallstones may form.

Are Some Weight Loss Methods Better Than Others in Preventing Gallstones? Possibly. If substantial or rapid weight loss increases the risk of developing gallstones, more gradual weight loss would seem to lessen the risk of getting gallstones. However, studies are needed to test this theory. Some very low calorie diets may not contain enough fat to cause the gallbladder to contract enough to empty its bile. A meal or snack containing approximately 10 grams (one-third of an ounce) of fat is necessary for the gallbladder to contract normally. But again, no studies have directly linked a diet's nutrient composition to the risk of gallstones.

Are People Who Have Surgery To Lose Weight Also at Risk for Gallstones? Gallstones are common among obese patients who lose weight rapidly after gastric bypass surgery.

Are the Benefits of Weight Loss Greater Than the Risk of Getting Gallstones? There's no question that obesity poses serious health risks. Obesity has been linked to heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, and diabetes. Obesity has also been associated with higher rates of certain types of cancer, such as gallbladder, colon, prostate, breast, cervical, and ovarian cancers. Weight loss also reduces the risk of heart disease by lowering cholesterol levels. Even a modest weight loss of 10 to 20 pounds can bring positive changes. And the psychological boost from losing weight, such as improved self image and greater social interaction, should not be ignored.

Patients who are thinking about beginning a commercial diet program to lose a significant amount of weight should talk with their doctors.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2014 10:26PM by John Rose.

Thanks for the info, so basically it allows the gallbladder to contract enough so it can efficiently eliminate the bile (which contains toxins) produced by the liver? Also, is this more of a long-term thing to be aware of because then wouldn't all water fasts be very damaging to the gallbladder?

I've posted this article before, but it's worth reading again.

Detoxing and the Flagging Liver
(part 2 of 3)
(From Gerson Healing Newsletter Vol. 15, No. 3, May-June, 2000)
by Kathryn Alexander
[This is Part 2 of a 3 part series of articles by Ms. Alexander]

I've come to the conclusion that nowadays treatment follows the premise "the more that is wrong with you, the more you put in." Many clients come with bags full of nutritional supplements, homeopathic remedies and herbal preparations and have been following a diet that I couldn't fault on a scientific nutritional basis and yet they have seen no significant impact on health or real reversal of their condition. Why? - they ask. The answer is simple - if you don't address the toxicity then you can expect no long-term results. In fact, with detoxification - the more that is wrong with you, the less you put in.

There are three questions that need to be answered: how great is the toxic load, how well can it be eliminated and how fast can we safely do this? For although a person may come with specific problems in reality these only reflect varying degrees of toxicity. The more toxic, the lower the vitality and the more severe the illness. In any case history you see a gradual deterioration on all levels; the impairment of the digestive system which may have started with simple food intolerances leading to severe allergies and chemical sensitivities; the gradual impairment of the immune system giving rise to recurrent infection, candidiasis and later parasites; the gradual decline of thyroid activity (closely connected with immune function) where the slight drop in body temperature allows persistent activation of viruses including HIV; poor blood sugar control leading to addictions and later depression and last, but not least, the general decline in fertility.

So how do we handle toxicity and remove it? Detoxification involves firstly getting the tissues to release toxicity and secondly, ensuring its elimination to the outside. The second part of the equation is the most important of all, for you may be unleashing years of accumulated toxins that have been "safely" tucked away (albeit lowering the vitality of the tissues) into the blood stream at one go. This can be a greater toxic insult to the tissues and organs than the small doses received on a daily basis leaving the body in a more weakened condition than before. Unfortunately this is the first mistake that people make. They feel that the greater the toxicity, the more aggressive the treatment should be. The strongest impetus is fasting, next is fruit juice fasting, then fruit and vegetable juices, then just vegetable juices. Next comes foods - first fruits, then vegetables, first raw and then cooked. A recent case I had provides a fine example of the famous saying by the late Dr. Christopher who said "Fasting is like fire - it can either gently warm you or it can kill you."

A 47 year old man suffering with chronic fatigue over the last four years sold his business and decided to take a six week holiday and go on a water fast. His previous history showed that he suffered tonsillitis as a child, later developed food intolerances, hay fever, and recently had gallstones. There was a very strong family history of heart conditions and cancer. Almost immediately following the fast the man was diagnosed with bacterial endocarditis, which carries 30% mortality. He underwent treatment but is left with a permanently compromised heart valve where he may require a valve replacement within the next 2 years.

When we unlock such poisons in our system unless we ensure their removal to the outside they will damage the body and leave it vulnerable to infection. We assume that the body detoxifies as it goes along- including toxins from drugs. Yet it becomes apparent, for example, when a patient who has undergone chemotherapy starts to detox that the bone marrow may become depressed in the initial stages as the chemotherapy residue is shifted into the circulation: thus the patient effectively gets a second dose. If this is managed properly no ill effects occur. It is obvious from the case history of the example above that this man was not able to complete the second stage of the equation - elimination to the outside because his liver, a major route of detoxification, was blocked (gall stones).

The more toxic we become, the more "stuck" we are and the treatment must be more carefully managed. The liver is like an exit from a congested freeway. If the exit is blocked, the traffic will jam. If we then decide to send in a bulldozer to shift the traffic you will have a pile up. This is exactly what happens when you detoxify too aggressively without ensuring that the liver can cope with the amount of toxicity released. The liver is like a filter, which can clog and become weakened. This is especially true if you have suffered from glandular fever, Ross River Fever, hepatitis, digestive problems and gallstones.

We need to support the liver in its task of detoxification and there are various ways to do this. You can take specific herbs, which promote the production and flow of bile by the liver (major route of detoxification of drugs and chemicals), but this may not be totally efficient as a good proportion of the toxic bile is reabsorbed from the gastro-intestinal tract. Or there's the coffee enema! Gerson's genius lay in the fact that he recognized the dangers of toxic release into the system and he found a way to deal with it. He was working against time with many of his terminally ill patients and it was vital that he secured maximum detoxification right from the beginning. Gerson found that if he matched the rate of elimination of toxicity from the tissues with its rate of removal to the outside then over a period of time total healing occurred. It was the coffee enema that made this possible.

Gerson knew that the coffee enema dilated the bile ducts and caused a flushing of toxic bile from the liver. (Drinking coffee constricts the bile ducts). He also knew that this was the most effective method for detoxification. Since Gerson's time various active ingredients in coffee have been identified and most interestingly, the palmitates present in coffee increase the binding of toxic elements by the bile 7-fold and this enzyme-enhancing ability in the liver and small intestine does not allow reabsorption of the toxic bile. Most cholerectic herbs do not ensure this complete removal of toxins but only an increase in bile flow.

In order to assist detoxification I often recommend the coffee enema. They guard against a toxic build-up that can make you feel so dreadful and in this way help the body to heal. It is important to remember that the coffee enemas go hand-in-hand with the juices: no enemas - no juices and no juices - no enemas. The juices will remove toxicity from the tissues and the coffee enema ensures its removal to the outside. If used without the juices they will ultimately have a depleting effect on nutrients. The rule of thumb is - 3 juices (3 x 250mls) per coffee enema. If you increase the juices then you can safely increase the enemas.

About the author
Kathryn Alexander, a dietary therapist, is author of the book "Get a Life: the detoxification diet made easy!" ISBN 0-646-31829-2. You may order this through her web site at: www.getalife.on.net. Kathryn has a practice in Australia and holds regular workshops and lectures on the topic of detoxification. She also runs courses for students and practitioners of natural therapies. Kathryn has completed phases I and II of the Gerson Practitioner training, and she is currently fulfilling her Phase III requirements. She is also a member of the Gerson Institute's board of directors.

Thanks for the info! Never had a coffee enema but hopefully soon I'll be getting plenty lol



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Yeah it would definitely be cheaper to learn how to do it myself but it would be worth it.

Unfortunately I have to end the fast after one day because it would be too expensive to continue. Mature coconuts are $2 each and offer about one cup of water per coconut but if you're consuming 10-12 cups daily, it adds up quick. Also, I think they have less nutrition than young thai coconuts because the nutrients are absorbed in the meat. Pomegranates are $2 per lb. and this adds up quick as well. I felt great though, only had a little hunger and had energy throughout the day.

Funny that you mentioned driving, SueZ, I was driving earlier this afternoon and my right lower leg/foot was cramped up for a while, could've been a detox effect as this never happens but after I got out of the car and walked around, the feeling was gone and didn't return.

Weeds and grasses will always serve well. Can't go wrong with that, nice and steady without being too hard. Doesn't cost much either. It will also toughen up those taste buds.

If you really play your cards right and get forest weeds you can also be like a fire breathing dragon.

Forest weeds and grasses are always a winner. Sometimes l have had weed and grass parties where we drink all the top notch drinks all afternoon. Other people will have a BBQ, but l have weed parties. Nothing quite like doing over a gallon of weed and grass juice over the day.

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lol. No doubt,after your marathon spell, you'll be soon giving juice fasting advice to one and all. Kinda like how you did after 1 week on raw foods.

<<<Unfortunately I have to end the fast after one day because it would be too expensive to continue. Mature coconuts are $2 each and offer about one cup of water per coconut but if you're consuming 10-12 cups daily, it adds up quick. Also, I think they have less nutrition than young thai coconuts because the nutrients are absorbed in the meat. Pomegranates are $2 per lb. and this adds up quick as well.>>>

You would be better off using Carrots in place of the Coconuts as you would get more calories, more protein and a wider array of nutrients for a lot less money. You would also be better off not using any fruit, including Pomegranates.

However, if you did nothing but Watermelon Juice for 1 week, you would be amazed at how much better you feel and how much crap that came out of you!!!

Obviously, we need more variety than Watermelon Juice, but the benefits that come from taking a Solid Food Vacation, even if it's the finest of foods, is well worth the effort.

"You would be better off using Carrots in place of the Coconuts as you would get more calories, more protein and a wider array of nutrients for a lot less money. You would also be better off not using any fruit, including Pomegranates."

Carrots would for sure be a cheaper option and in the future & it may be a better idea to use more, although I do like coconut water more in terms of phytochemicals, enzymes, and overall refreshment/satisfaction. Why would it be better not to use any fruit?


"Nothing quite like doing over a gallon of weed and grass juice over the day."

Yeah I would love to fast on pure sprout/grass & weed juice but I don't grow nearly enough and not quite sure if it would provide enough caloric intake. Maybe the weeds are more dense sources of calories. Have you ever juiced wild grass?

TSM, do you juice wild grasses? If so, how do you identify which you use? I know for example phalaris grass has a very high amount of dimethyltryptamine and other plant alkaloids which would cause intense reactions. I like the idea of juicing wild plants though and have been meaning to learn how to pick and identify the correct material



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"I know for example phalaris grass has a very high amount of dimethyltryptamine"

Count me in! lol


John, how come it's better not to use any fruits on a juice fast?

good luck on your juice fast jtprindl

jtprindl

why don't you just juice dandelion greens to flush out the liver? it does a good job


or if u want to slow down the reaction, maybe do a protocol of blending the dandelion greens with whatever else you prefer in order to cleanse the liver first before embarking on a juice fast

<<<John, how come it's better not to use any fruits on a juice fast?>>>

Ideally, we should NEVER Juice Fruits, especially on an ongoing basis, simply because we're getting all of that "sugar" without any fiber to slow it down.

However, a lot of people will not "go the distance" if all they drink is Vegetable Juice, so the Fruit Juice can help them "go the distance" and since there are SO many BENEFITS to "going the distance," that we are, in a way, "being compensated for our losses," so to speak.

Pineapple Juice, for example, is a good example where we are "being compensated for our losses." Here are some old Posts from Dr. Flora from my file on Pineapple Juice, except the last Post by someone thanking Dr. Flora for telling all of us about using Pineapple Juice to flush out the liver and gallbladder:

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• Stick holes in the stem end of the pineapple and place it in the sun, after you rinse it well, in a saucer with a little fresh water in it. Let it sit for a couple of days and when it's all yellow and smells delicious, make juice out of it and chugalug it first thing in the am on an empty stomach.
• The pineapples soak up the water in the sun and ripen nicely and become fragrant, alkaline and sweet. If the juice is chugged, it slips down to the liver and gall bladder and dissolves fat and cholesterol from earlier times and everything is happy down there as you sweat out the old oils from your pores. The bromelain is in the stem, so don't throw away the center part; it's the most important part of the fruit.
• If you binge on: 4. fatty, greasy, cheesy, oily, chugalug on an empty stomach, fresh pineapple juice from a pineapple you ripened yourself in the sun in a bowl of water with holes in the bottom for inspiration
• home ripened freshly juiced pineapple juice chugalugged first thing in the am on an empty stomach to clean out the old oils from my system.
• Make sure you home ripen the pineapples: put them in a saucer in the sun for a couple of days after you wash them thoroughly and then punch holes in the stem end so that the leaves can drink in the sun and water you pour over them on and off and they become yellow and smell delicious! and they won't burn your lips and other parts.
• Freshly made Pineapple juice chugalugged first thing in the am (ayunas) and Fenugreek greens will assist.
• Pineapple juiced should be drunk chugalug and not blended with other things because when it gets caught in your system it gets old and acid within half an hour.
• On an empty stomach, when you chugalug it, it leaves your stomach within 20 minutes and is in your gall bladder, making small work of any old nuts or seeds or stuff you have eaten cooked or rancid. Pineapple juice is a gift from the gods for us when we have strayed, but later on, when you are more careful about what you eat, you won't need it because there will not be anything in your body (too much cholesterol, rancid fats or oils, etc.) that will need dissolving.
• Pineapple needs to be juiced and drunk quickly so that it gets to your liver and gall bladder and has time to work on the cholesterol there for about 20-30 minutes before anything else comes down.
• The middle of the pineapple and stem has the enzyme bromelaine, which dissolves cholesterol. When it is ripened in the sun, in a little saucer of water so that holes in the stem end can suck the soaking water from dulse up into the body of the fruit and ripen so it's golden yellow and smells delicious, it is such a gift to your body, juiced and chugalugged.
• The minute a person stops putting something bad inside, the body starts to clean house and all of the poisons (fat, animal cholesterol, chemicals and hormones) rises to the top of the body like a salad dressing bottle at rest as the fat rises to the top, and circulation is temporarily blocked and you get dizzy on and off, especially during the wane of the full moon. …Home ripened pineapple juice will dissolve the fat quickly, as will purslaine, and blended and juiced greens will rebuild your blood into something you will benefit by, instead of the blood that is full of animal fat and cholesterol.
• Chocolate is one of those darn malonic acid containing foods, which will destroy your immune sytem and prevent two very important digestive enzymes from being utilized in your body. Do some figs and prunes today with your greens and tomorrow morning bolt some raw pineapple juice down, and don't eat anything for about an hour to let the bromelaine do it's work on the fat which contains the malonate.
• the pineapple's enzyme, which dissolves fat, cholesterol, grease, etc.
• Pick out a pineapple that is at least half little golden yellow. Never buy one that is blue-green. …Wash it twice in a one minute hot bath, patting it dry in between. With the tines of a plastic fork, poke holes in the stem end (the stem is where the bromelaine concentrates) and place it in direct sun until it is yellow all over (many times it takes a couple of days). If you put the dulse soaking water in the soaking water, the liquid minerals (but not the sea shells and sand!) that are rinsed out of the dulse will be sucked up into the pineapple stem, almost as if it were still on the stem grounded, and the pineapple will ripen.
• I wanted to thank you AGAIN for your invaluable advice, most notably all of your comments about pineapple juice. I can honestly say that after drinking it several times a week for a few months, all of my gallbladder problems are gone. …And I've done a whole slew of liver flushes too, and they didn't help as much as just drinking fresh, ripe pineapple juice did.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2014 08:52PM by John Rose.

"Ideally, we should NEVER Juice Fruits, especially on an ongoing basis, simply because we're getting all of that "sugar" without any fiber to slow it down."

What about taking fruit juice with psyillium husk or algae's?

Also, why would you recommend carrot juice but not fruit juice? Carrot juice, as you know, still contains lots of sugar.

Here is an old post that addresses both of your questions...

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Re: Carrot juice - your (JR) views...Walker & Malkmus
John Rose (---.158.32.157.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net)
Date: 10-20-02 10:13

Hi Mike,

Carrot juice is not as bad as some people make it out to be, especially if mixed with green vegetable juices and flax oil. The father of juicing, Dr. Norman Walker writes, "Depending on the condition of the individual, raw carrot juice may be taken indefinitely in any reasonable quantities--from one to eight pints a day." Since Walker lived till 109 or 119 (?), I would like to believe that he might have been on to something.

Below is an interesting article by Malkmus and his bunch at Hallelujah Acres.

Peace and Love........John

PS Congratulations on making it till day 7 on your juice fast...the first 3 days are the toughest, so it is smooth sailing from here on out.

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The Effect of Carrot Juice on Blood Glucose Levels?

Carrot juice is an integral and potent part of The Hallelujah Dietsm. Questions abound as to what the effect of carrot juice is on blood glucose levels.

The Hallelujah Dietsm is a pure vegetarian diet emphasizing raw fruits and vegetables along with the use of freshly extracted vegetable juices and a dehydrated barley grass juice. Carrot juice is an integral and potent part of The Hallelujah Dietsm. Questions abound as to what the effect of carrot juice is on blood glucose levels. Another question is whether it is best for sugar-sensitive people to stay away from carrot juice and its health benefits, or can they consume it safely.

Michael Donaldson, Ph.D., did a study on carrot juice and its effect on blood glucose levels. Also, he studied other ways to safely lower the blood sugar response to carrot juice. The results are quite surprising and eye-opening. Don’t miss the opportunity to see how carrot juice stacks up to other foods that we consume.

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Carrot juice, 1C 230 18 11 46
Med. Apple 138 21 17 35
Med. Orange 131 15 12 32
Med. Banana 118 28 22 55
Med. Yam 114 28 11 52
Med. Baked Potato 122 31 2 84
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bread, 2 big slices 92 47 4 92

Carrot juice—too much sugar? We want to understand the role of carrot juice in the context of other foods. First of all, the serving size of carrot juice generally recommended is about 8 oz, which only contains about 12g of sugar and 18g of carbohydrate total. This is a not a large sugar load.

In Table 1 a comparison is given between carrot juice, a few common fruits, and three common carbohydrate foods. The glycemic response expected from a serving of these foods, compared to a 50 g carbohydrate serving of bread, is given in the last column, labeled as the serving size GI.

As you can see, the typical serving size would yield only about half as much of a glycemic response as 2 large slices of bread (46 vs 92). From this analysis it appears that a diabetic individual, or others who have poor blood sugar control, would be able to drink carrot juice and eat fruit in moderation.

Juice with oil. The glycemic response of carrot juice can be reduced by drinking a serving of carrot juice with a spoonful of oil. The oil has an added benefit of increasing the absorption of the fat-soluble carotenoids. This is a great way to get in beneficial oils and carrot juice at the same time.

Diabetics and carrot juice. Hallelujah Acres has recommended that diabetics start with smaller servings of carrot juice. Since less carrot juice is consumed, the glycemic response will be less, and the sugar-sensitive individual will tolerate the juice better. So, a person needs to monitor their blood sugar and be very careful when adopting The Hallelujah Diet.

Chromium. Chromium intake is sub-optimal in most individuals. High sugar diets promote the excretion of chromium in the urine. A two-week trial with daily chromium supplementation would be adequate to see if a person receives any benefit. Up to 1000 µg/day of chromium has been used with no negative side-effects. There is some evidence that more than 200 µg/day of chromium is neces-sary to see a positive effect in diabetics. Fasting blood glucose concentration may be reduced along with fasting insulin. A morning challenge with carrot juice (such as done in this study) would easily reveal any benefit from ex-tra chromium.

Good sources of chromium are nuts, seeds, whole grains, and brewer’ s yeast. In-creasing nut and seed intake will provide more chromium and more of the beneficial plant oils associated with successful raw food diets.Table 1. Context for carrot juice. Serving size GI is the predicted glycemic response for the stated amount of each food, compared to a 50g carbohydrate serving of bread.

The Hallelujah Diet sm is a pure vegetarian diet emphasizing raw fruits and vegetables along with the use of freshly extracted vegetable juices and Barley-green TM . Carrot juice is an integral and potent part of The Hallelujah Diet sm .Blood sugar control. Loss of control of blood sugar occurs as people age, increase in body fat, and become less conditioned. More insulin is required to do the same amount of work that just a small amount of insulin was able to do previously. The body produces more and more insulin in its attempt to lower blood sugar concentrations to safe levels. Over time this person develops what is called adult-onset, or type II, diabetes. In this diabetic state, when a person consumes carbohydrates their blood sugar rises quickly, but returns to normal very slowly. Their body is resistant to the action of insulin and blood sugar levels always run high Glycemic index. The glycemic in-dex is a measurement of blood glucose response to food. Because the glycemic index is normalized to a standard food (bread), the variation between individuals’ responses to carbohydrate is accounted for, and the results are more easily applied to other individuals. Glycemic index values are known for many foods.

Objective

What is the effect of carrot juice on blood glucose levels? What is the Glycemic index of carrot juice? Is it best for sugar-sensitive people to stay away from carrot juice and its health benefits, or can they consume it safely? Are there ways to safely lower the blood sugar response to carrot juice?Amount of Sugar in Juice. In an 8 ounce glass of carrot juice (~230 g), there would be about 76 calories, 11.3 g sugar, lots of vitamins and minerals, and very little fat or protein. By comparison, an 8-ounce serving of soda pop would have between 25 and 31 g of sugar, along with caffeine and phos-phoric acid Glycemic Response. Figure 1 shows the average glycemic response for the test foods. The beginning blood glucose is set to zero, in order to normalize all of the data to the same starting point. Fasting glucose values varied from 70 to 115 mg/dl in our study group. The mean fasting glucose value was 88 mg/dl. So, the average peak in blood glucose after consuming 14.5 oz of carrot juice is only 116 mg/dl, still in the range of normal blood glucose values. In fact, there were very few abnormal readings throughout this study. Out of 66 blood glucose trials, there were only 8 tests with peaks higher than 140Introduction mg/dl, and 3 of these were when bread was con-sumed. Also, there were only 4 trials with a nadir lower than 70 mg/dl, with none lower than 65 mg/dl. So, even with a large serving of carrot juice, 14.5 oz, blood glucose values did not soar or plunge in this study group.

The response of individuals to carrot juice is characteristically different from the response to a complex carbohydrate. By 15 minutes the blood glucose had risen significantly after drinking carrot juice, while there was no rise in blood glucose 15 minutes after eating bread. Note that when the carrot juice is used with the oil, the shape of the curve does not change. Only the height is different. But this difference in height is significant when the area under the curve is calculated, as done when determining the glycemic index. he difference is 20 points on the GI scale, which can make a difference in long-term use. The glycemic index for carrot juice determined here is 86, and the glycemic index for carrot juice + Udo's oil is 66, with standard deviations of 33 and 26, re-spectively. The other published reports for the glycemic index value of carrot juice list it as 85 and 64, which are in agreement with our number. If anything, our estimate appears to be on the high side. This places carrot juice in the medium range of foods in terms of the sugar response generated by the carbohydrates in the food. Individuals had widely different responses to the same carbohydrate load. Our study group was not large enough to make any correlations between glycemic response, fasting glucose levels, and anthropomorphic measures. However, research has shown that the onset of diabetes is strongly correlated with obesity. We also found that responses by an individual on different days to the same test food varied as much as two-fold. This result means that there are factors that vary daily in individuals that have a dramatic effect on how the body responds to the same glycemic load. Two known factors are the overall glycemic index of a person’ s last meal and the amount and quality of sleep the night before a glycemic test. These factors were not recorded in this study Chromium. Another known factor in glycemic response is a person’ s chromium status. We performed a supplementation test using chromium picolinate to see if this was a factor in our study. Chromium was beneficial for 4 of the 6 subjects who completed the chromium sup-Chromium Supplementation

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#5, afterFigure 2. Effect of chromium supplementation on 2 volunteers. The normalized blood glucose response to 14.5 oz of carrot juice is shown, both before and after daily supplementation with 200 µg of chromium as chromium picolinate for 7 days. Data are the average of 2 samples each before and after supplementation.Average Glycemic Responses
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cj + oilFigure 1. Average Glycemic Responses. Blood sugar values are normalized to fasting level for clarity of presen-tation. Values for carrot juice and carrot juice + oil are not corrected for lower carbohydrate load (30 g). Bread (x) is a 50g carbohydrate portion. Juice (o) is a 14.5 oz serving of carrot juice. cj + oil (+) is 14.5 oz of carrot juice with 30 g of Udo’ s Oil.

Let’ s Juice! What the Glycemic Index really says about Carrot Juice and Blood Glucose implementation study. More than a 50 percent reduction in glucose response was possible after just a week of supplementation. Even though the individuals in this study were eating a diet low in refined sugar additional chro-mium was beneficial. This may point to a lack of trace minerals in our soil.

Figure 2 shows the blood glucose profile of 2 volunteers before and after chromium supplementation. The lower peak glucose concentration contributed to the smaller AUC for subject #3, while a slower rise and quicker fall in elevated blood glucose contributed to the smaller AUC for subject #5, without reducing the peak glucose concentration at all. So, the response to chromium in different individuals will vary even in the way that the AUC is reduced.
Chromium taken by diabetics and others has increased insulin sensitivity, reduced fasting insulin, decreased fasting glucose levels, decreased cholesterol and triglyceride levels, and stimulated weight loss. However, not all diabetics or normal people respond to chromium supplementation. Supplemental chromium is only helpful for people who have low body stores of chromium. This was true in our study as well, since 2 of the 6 volunteers had no change in glycemic response after supplementing with chromium.

Methods

Details of the methods and protocols used in this study can be found in the full article, available from Hallelujah Acres. Carrot juice is likely to cause fewer problems to individuals struggling to lower their blood sugar than animal fats, refined sugar, bread, and flour products.
Results and Discussion

hey all
' just found a video of jtprindl online
on last day of the fast
seems to be doing pretty well imo

keep it up jt
seems like you are loving life



[www.youtube.com]

la_veronique Wrote:
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> hey all
> ' just found a video of jtprindl online
> on last day of the fast
> seems to be doing pretty well imo
>
> keep it up jt
> seems like you are loving life
>
>
>
> [www.youtube.com]


Yikes. That video was creepy and ugly enough to be straight out of a nightmare. Stupid potboiler song, too.

SueZ Wrote:
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> la_veronique Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hey all
> > ' just found a video of jtprindl online
> > on last day of the fast
> > seems to be doing pretty well imo
> >
> > keep it up jt
> > seems like you are loving life
> >
> >
> >
> > [www.youtube.com]
>
>
> Yikes. That video was creepy and ugly enough to be
> straight out of a nightmare. Stupid potboiler
> song, too.



That's not even the most disturbing thing about Lt_V's post. It's this -

"..of jtprindl..
on last day of the fast
seems to be doing pretty well imo"

ha ha!

I don't think the fast lasted long as he said he just ate a blueberry smoothy with extra chemical powders. He got tons of chemical extracts to pour into everything just in case he becomes deficient. He recently got this $100 bottle of reishy extract from the RawFoodWorld that is boiled for at leats for 6 hours to extract the crystals. Yet he hiddes that information from the forum to appear as pure 100% raw.



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Panchito Wrote:
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> I don't think the fast lasted long as he said he
> just ate a blueberry smoothy with extra chemical
> powders. He got tons of chemical extracts to pour
> into everything just in case he becomes deficient.
> He recently got this $100 bottle of reishy extract
> from the RawFoodWorld that is boiled for at leats
> for 6 hours to extract the crystals. Yet he hiddes
> that information from the forum to appear as pure
> 100% raw.


Once again demonstrating your inability to read as I said that I ended the fast after one day because it would've been too expensive. Also, I couldn't care less about the label "100% raw", I focus on overall health benefits and I use absolutely nothing of chemical origin. My diet provides me with all the nutrients I need (unlike yours) and I use super food powders for their overall benefits such as enhanced immunity, potent antioxidant/phytochemical protection, anti-aging, etc. But you can keep telling yourself and pretending that super foods don't exist or are "chemicals" because you don't want to feel like you're at a disadvantage compared to those who use them.

Maybe you should stop eating a nutrient-depleted diet (which is why you supplement), eating cooked cake, and swimming in chlorinated water if you want to be healthier.

jtprindl Wrote:
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> My diet provides me
> with all the nutrients I need (unlike yours) and I
> use super food powders for their overall benefits
> such as enhanced immunity, potent
> antioxidant/phytochemical protection, anti-aging,
> etc.

oh OK. Maybe you can teach me where you get your B12! Then I can pass the knowledge to Dr Gregger.

Thanks!

"oh OK. Maybe you can teach me where you get your B12! Then I can pass the knowledge to Dr Gregger."

1.) B12 isn't a vegan diet issue, it's an agricultural and environmental issue.

2.) Certain algae's and seaweeds contain bioavailable B12 (AFA, chlorella, nori, hydrilla, etc)

Why don't you read before acting like an expert

[www.veganhealth.org]

yawn

BTW: B12 supplemets are as much superfood as extracted reishi crystals boiled for 12 hours.



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"BTW: B12 supplemets are as much superfood as extracted reishi crystals boiled for 12 hours."

Not when you take synthetic chemical forms which is likely what you do. B12 is an essential nutrient which doesn't exist anymore in most soils nowadays, and no it's not a super food.

"Why don't you read before acting like an expert"

Not that it means anything to me, but I am far more knowledgeable than yourself, especially in regards to health and nutrition. It is you who needs to do more reading...

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] - "Compared to the control period, in the intervention period participants improved their vitamin B12 status, significantly reducing Hcy blood concentration (p=0.003). In conclusion, the Klamath algae product AFA-B12 appears to be, in a preliminary study, an adequate and reliable source of vitamin B12 in humans".

[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] - "The vegans consuming Nori and/or Chlorella seaweeds (n = 16) had serum vitamin B-12 concentrations twice as high as those not using these seaweeds (n = 5) (mean 221 pmol/L, range 75-408, vs. 105, 35-252, P = 0.025)... On the basis of these results we conclude that some seaweeds consumed in large amounts can supply adequate amounts of bioavailable vitamin B-12".



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jtprindl Wrote:
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> In conclusion, the Klamath algae product AFA-B12 appears to be, in a
> preliminary study, an adequate and reliable source
> of vitamin B12 in humans".

If you read it, it says man made product which is based on a proprietary mix of enzymes. Why not have B12 made from real bacteria, which is cheaper, not propietary, and natural? How is a propietary blend of enzymes that a corporation makes a fresh raw natural made food?

> [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] - "The
> vegans consuming Nori and/or Chlorella seaweeds (n
> = 16) had serum vitamin B-12 concentrations twice
> as high as those not using these seaweeds (n = 5)
> (mean 221 pmol/L, range 75-408, vs. 105, 35-252, P
> = 0.025)... On the basis of these results we
> conclude that some seaweeds consumed in large
> amounts can supply adequate amounts of
> bioavailable vitamin B-12".

Wow. You are cutting off the important information from this old study (1999). If you click the link, this is what it actually says:

In the longitudinal study, six of nine vegans showed slow, but consistent deterioration of vitamin B-12 status over a 2-y observation
period.

How does this study, once I added back the chunks you cut off, show that people get b12 from algae? Why do you ignore the link I posted with information collected from many years?

Your diet is a fad of bottles and pills. You call it raw. I call it junk.



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"Your diet is a fad of bottles and pills. You call it raw. I call it junk"

Good thing it doesn't matter what you call anything, it matters what the reality is. But again, you can keep pretending and living in delusion if you'd like by believing that super foods don't exist. If super foods are junk, what is cooked cake (which you eat)? If long-chain omega-3 supplements aren't pills (which you take), what are they?

"Why not have B12 made from real bacteria, which is cheaper, not propietary, and natural?"

AFA blue-green algae is as natural as grass.

"In the longitudinal study, six of nine vegans showed slow, but consistent deterioration of vitamin B-12 status over a 2-y observation period."

Which is irrelevant because it doesn't give any other details as to why that could've been the case. The conclusion is that "On the basis of these results we conclude that some seaweeds consumed in large amounts can supply adequate amounts of bioavailable vitamin B-12".