Living Food Wrote:
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> The sun has a lot more benefits than drawbacks.
> It's a real shame that you are using sunscreen,
> and there's been some evidence that sunscreen is
> far more mutagenic than UV light from the sun.

Not the sunscreens I use. They do not penetrate the skin,
they are photostable, and they do provide serious protection.

There are people who have genetic defects that make them
especially sensitive: lupus, polymorphic light eruption (PLE),
chronic actinic dermatitis (CAD), actinic prurigo,
hydroa vacciniforme and solar urticaria. For these people
high PPD sunscreens make life tolerable.

The same rays that make them exquisitely sensitive are the
rays that cause sagging and wrinkling.


> There was also a study done showing that vitamin D
> decreases the risk of 17 different types of
> cancer, including skin cancer. Even if the UV rays
> are doing some damage, the vitamin D from the sun
> may be enough to counteract that.

You assume I have low vitamin D status. That is not the
case. I supplement.

> I think that if you are eating a good, fresh diet
> with the full spectrum of nutrients and very high
> antioxidant levels you will be just fine. Even
> light-skinned people can stay out in the sun all
> day if they eat a good diet and build up the
> exposure time slowly.

This works only for people who have built-in SPF and PPD
30 like Storm Talifero and Annette Larkins. For whiter
people, some protection is needed.

Doug Graham is 10 years older than me but he looks 30
years older than me.

> Even if you do end up with a wrinkly face, is it
> really a big deal?? Is vanity worth more than all
> of the health and other benefits that sunbathing
> brings? If it is to you that's fine, but
> personally I choose the many benefits that
> sunbathing brings over "looking pretty in my old
> age."

Yes, for women. Men tend not to care as much, or tend
to overestimate their attractiveness.

The skin is an organ, too. Why abuse it?

Do you really want to look older than you have to? If you
are of Northern European extraction, your natural habitat
is of significantly lower solar insolation. If you exceed
this limit, you will damage your largest organ and look
much older than you have to.

Even the most ideal food will not prevent this. Solar
damage is cumulative. I opt out.

I don't think I will be a good spokesperson for raw veganism if
I look anywhere near my age. Not saying that I will for sure
make it to 100 or beyond. But I'd rather look decades younger.
I wish that you would, too.

Maybe you could try mushrooms that are exposed to sun and cut back
on skin exposure. This increases their D2 content.

Sproutarian man. That is so interesting. Anything else you have heard about Juliano. I heard he did a raw food party for Pierce Brosnan, and drank champagne and got drunk and fell in the pool.

By the way, have you guys seen juliano's food? It is so pretty, covered with flowers and all sorts of different colors.

I have a suspicion he is one of the raw vegans, a few, that openly embrace marijuana smoking. Like the GITMR raw vegans, they all used to smoke pot. That would explain why his food tastes so good and look absolutely stunning.

Bryan Au said he used to manage him, until they had a falling out and that is why his life never fully got it together and the second book never came out. He told me that himself.





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You assume I have low vitamin D status. That is not the
case. I supplement.

How much are you taking? Most people take far too little, and the RDA for vitamin D is absurdly low.

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The skin is an organ, too. Why abuse it?

Do you really want to look older than you have to? If you
are of Northern European extraction, your natural habitat
is of significantly lower solar insolation. If you exceed
this limit, you will damage your largest organ and look
much older than you have to.

Even the most ideal food will not prevent this. Solar
damage is cumulative. I opt out.

You seem to be of the opinion that exposing yourself to sunlight causes inevitable and permanent damage, so I can certainly understand why you see things that way. I believe no such thing, I think that the damage can be largely prevented through an abundance of antioxidants, and any damage that slips by can be easily repaired if you receive the full spectrum of nutrition and all of your organs and repair mechanisms are in perfect condition (not easy to do, but it is possible). Our DNA gets damaged all the time, but not everyone comes down with cancer or disease because our bodies have the innate ability to repair themselves. So long as you keep them in good working order they can certainly deal with a little UV damage.

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Maybe you could try mushrooms that are exposed to sun and cut back
on skin exposure. This increases their D2 content.

My main interest in the sun has nothing to do with vitamin D, but thank you for the suggestion.

Living Food Wrote:

> You seem to be of the opinion that exposing
> yourself to sunlight causes inevitable and
> permanent damage, so I can certainly understand
> why you see things that way. I believe no such
> thing, I think that the damage can be largely
> prevented through an abundance of antioxidants,
> and any damage that slips by can be easily
> repaired if you receive the full spectrum of
> nutrition and all of your organs and repair
> mechanisms are in perfect condition (not easy to
> do, but it is possible). Our DNA gets damaged all
> the time, but not everyone comes down with cancer
> or disease because our bodies have the innate
> ability to repair themselves. So long as you keep
> them in good working order they can certainly deal
> with a little UV damage.

No, we do not have unlimited repair capacities. If
we live long enough and don't die of something else
we will inevitably die of cancer. No matter what we
eat. Our bodies do not have an infinite capacity for
repair.

Up to 90% of what we think is aging is actually sun
damage. This damage is elective.

Compare the skin from an unexposed site (buttocks,
under the arm) to the skin on an exposed site (face).
The difference gets greater with each passing decade.

Truck driver:
[www.nejm.org]

A high-antioxidant diet did not prevent skin damage
on Graham, Cousens, Kulvinskas, Bisci, etc. Even durianrider
who is only in his 30s have done an incredibly amount
of damage to himself in the last 10 years.

A few points ...

A vegetarian dermatologist with perfect skin told me my skin damage was reversible naturally, with time, but I should never again eat a lot of fruit. His comment about the diet I had been on that was high in fruit was "Oh no" as he shook his lowering head.

Children stricken with the horrible disease Progeria, which rapidly ages them, do not suffer from wear and tear problems of ageing (like UV damage) although their skin does get very wrinkled.

Why would fruit damage the skin?

RawPracticalist Wrote:
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> Why would fruit damage the skin?

Fruit probably doesn't care how quickly we become plant fertilizer.

The smart question is how eating too much fruit can damage our skin, which is the one I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as having meant to ask and give you that answer, too.

AGES. Advanced glycation end products.

THE SKIN GAME
“It's only a cliché that the reason an M.D. goes into the skin game is that there are No Cures, No Kills, and No Night Calls.” -Edgar Berman, M.D., “The Solid Gold Stethoscope” p. 116

When I was hanging around goth circles, you know Denny's at 2 am after the club, I met a girl who was really pale and she said she had porphyria. I laughed, assuming she was lying, everyone knows it is the "vampires" disease and I was hanging out with wannabe's so I didn't think much of it. It turns out it is a rare disease, that you cannot stand sunlight- allergic to garlic and have serious blood issues. What do you know. The vampire's disease.

Now what Suez says, Progeria, that was in another vampire goth movie. Called The Hunger. A mother Vampire, had lovers who lived 1000s of years but always wound up dying and living all eternity in coffins in this lady's attic. She was trying to find a cure for her lovers to live eternally like her so she met a doctor, Susan sarandon, but they fell in love, anyways, she was studying that disease..in order to find a cure for longevity.

Movies like Renaissance, Jack and The Hunger also had references to this disease.

SUEZ take a look, Willem Defoe as a Junkie: THE HUNGER





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Here's Zz's favorite guru...

SICK? WELL? ... SUNBATHING HELPS YOU AND EVERYONE
By Dr. Bernarr, D.C. D.D.

SUNBATHING DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER OF THE SKIN NOR WRINKLES.

SUNBATHING HELPS HEAL CANCER OF THE SKIN.

Sunbathing helps heal skin cancer and does not cause skin cancer. Sunbathing does not cause wrinkling of the skin. Sunbathing helps heal wrinkles. Unfortunately those who develop skin cancer and/or wrinkles and also coincidentally sunbathe, have many bad habits that cause their skin cancer and wrinkles. Those who have wrinkling of the skin have poor skin tone. This poor skin tone causes the skin to wrinkle.

I have sunbathed nude almost every day, for many, many years, for several hours, and I have never developed skin cancer nor wrinkles.

Sunbathing helped heal the skin cancer of Dr. Harland G. Call. His "skin cancer was diagnosed by two M.D.1s, one of whom was a surgeon who recommended surgical removal". Call employed "sunbathing of the affected area. Within a short time, the skin cancer disappeared," after which he reported back to the M.D. who had recommended surgical removal. When the local M.D. "examined" him, "he confirmed that the skin cancer had disappeared without surgical removal."
A man had recurrent skin cancer. His cancer doctor recommended surgery. The cancerous man rejected undergoing surgery. Dr. John Ott wrote that he advised the man to begin spending time in the sun without his glasses or anything else between his eyes and the sunlight. After 5 months, his skin cancer completely disappeared.

Cancer is helped by sunbathing, writes Dr. Zane R. Kime. Kime writes that those who get more sunlight have less cancer. Sunbathing heals cancer by building up the immune system and increasing the oxygen in the tissues. Sunlight does not cause skin cancer. Healthy people do not get cancer and -unhealthy people do get it. Chronic sunburn combines with free radicals to cause skin cancer. Sunlight may change free radicals, dietary fat, cholesterol and deranged antioxidants via cooked foods into skin cancer. Under the influence of sunlight, these toxic foods are brought to the skin. Cooked foods have had their antioxidants, particularly vitamins C and E, reduced or deranged by cooking. The sources of free radicals are mainly dietary fat, especially polyunsaturated fats, but also fats and oils applied to the skin in suntan lotion and other cosmetics. Suppression of the 'immune system by drugs may be involved in skin cancer that is stimulated by sunlight. X-rays and chemotherapy cause cancer.

"We may be able to reduce our cancer deaths by inducing a partial or complete immunity by exposure of suitable skin areas to sunlight," writes Dr. Frank Apperly.

Exposing U.S. Navy personnel to strong sunlight may have saved them from dying from cancer, writes S. Peller.

Sunlight treatments reduced malignant cancer growths 50% in experimental animals in Russia, writes A.P. Zabaluyeva.

Repeated sunburning, not suntanning in itself, causes skin cancer, writes Dr. Michael Gray. Gray writes that skin cancer is caused in those who smoked tobacco and marijuana and expose themselves to sunlight. Marijuana contains adverse toxins that induce skin cells to mutate in the presence of sunlight, causing skin cancer.

Skin cancer is caused in those who over consume coffee and tea, which contain toxic caffeine and tannic acid, and expose themselves to sunlight, write Dr. Becker and D. Alexander.

SUNBATHING HELPS HEAL ALMOST EVERYTHING

Sunbathing helps heal the following, in alphabetical order: Abscesses, Academic Performance, Aids, Alertness, Alcoholism, Arteriosclerosis, Atherosclerosis, Arthritis, Antibodies, Acne, Alzheimer's Disease, Assimilation, Adrenal Glands, Asthma, Anemia (Primary & Secondary), Acidosis Reduction, Aging Postponement, Bacterial Destruction, Blood Pressure (High) Lowering, Burns, Blood Circulation, Blood Platelets, Bones, Blood Sugar, Blood Poisoning, Balanitis, Barber's Itch, Baldness Alopecia (Areata) Brain, Boils, Blood Quantity, Colitis, Cystitis, Cholesterol Reduction, Colds, Calcium Metabolism, Cancer Of Bone, Breast, Colon, Lungs, Melanomas, Metastasis Skin, Cholesterol Will Not Be Changed In The Skin Into Skin Cancer, Circadian Rhythm, Colon Bacillus Destruction, chicken Pox, Childbirth Infections, Cholera, Colds, Cushing's Syndrome, Cretinism, Children's Growth, Catarrh, Chilblains, Carbuncles, Cutaneous Vessels Spasms, Carbon Dioxide Reduction, Concentration, Depression, Diabetes (Sunlight, Dr. Kime calls "Natural Insulin", Digestion, Dysentery (Bacillary), Drug Addiction, Dandruff, Debility, Dermatitis, Eczema, Emotional Problems, Eskimos Emotional Stress, EKG Readings, Erysipelas, Elephantiasis, Eyes, Estrogen Increase, Endocrine Glands, Eczema, Elimination, Energy Increase, Endurance Increase, Fungal Conditions, Fat Metabolism, Fats In Blood Reduction, Free Radical Protection Against Its Formation And Damage, Felons, Fractures, Furuncles, Genitalia, Gas Gangrene, Gangrene, Gout, Goiter, Gun-Shot Wounds, Glycogen Storage Increase In Liver & Muscles, Hair, Herpes Simple & Complex (In any part of the body), Hives, Heart, Hepatitis, Hodgkin's Disease, Hemophilia, Headaches, Hypertension, Hypoglycemia, Hip-Disease, Immune System, Impotency, Interferon Increase, Intermittent Claudication, Ions (Negative) Increase, Influenza, Insomnia, Insanity, Impetigo, Infected Wounds, Iron In Blood Increases, Iodine In Thyroid Becomes More Active & Quantity Increases, Infection Resistance Increase, Jaundice, Jaundice In The Newborn, Jet Lag, Juvenile Papillomas, Kidney Diseases, Kidney Calcification, Lupus Erythematosus, Leukemia, Lungs, Liver Metabolism, Lymphocytes (Blood Cells) Increase, Leukorrhea,, Locomotor Ataxia, Lacerations., Lumbago, Melatonin Secretion Decrease, Miner's Diseases, Mumps, Menopause, Menstruation, Myeloma, Malaria, Metabolism, Muscle Firmness, Size, Tone & Volume (Even Without Exercise), Mind Becomes Clearer And More Acute, Neutrophils (Blood Cells) Activity, Nervous System, Neurasthenia, Obesity, oxygen Utilization, ovaries, Osteomalacia, Osteoporosis, oxygen carrying Capacity of Blood, Ophthalmia, Otitis, Pineal Gland, Pneumonia, Pregnancy, Psoriasis, Psychically Restorative, Psychological Illness, Paralytic Ileus, Peritonitis, Pituitary Gland, Plethora, Phosphorus Metabolism, Poliomyelitis, Purpura, Pruritus, Pleurisy, Paralysis, Pain Relief, Pelvic Disorders Of Men & Women, Respiratory Rate, Resting Heart Rate, Ring-Worm, Rheumatism, Rheumatic Fever, Rickets, Respiratory Infections, Resistance To Disease Increase, Sex Drive, Sex Glands, Sex Hormones, Sexual Motivation, Sex Disorders, Sexual Reproduction, Sleep, Streptococcal Infections, Strength, Staphylococcus Infections, Scrofula, Scurvy, Stress, Stroke, Scars, Spinal Meningitis, Sarcoma, Skin, Sleeping Sickness, Shingles, Suppurating Joints, sterility, Syphilis, Surgical Adhesions, strains, Sciatica, T.B. Of Abdomen, Bone, Elbow, Epididymus, Foot, Hip, Intestine, T.B. of Kidney, Knee, Lymphatic Glands, Mucous Membranes, Pelvis, Shoulder, Sinuses, Skin & Spine, Teeth, Teeth Cavities, Temperature Of The Body, Testosterone, Tranquilizes, Triglyceride Lowering, Testis, Thyroid Gland, Typhoid, Traumatic Injuries, Toxemia Reduction, Ulcers (Duodenal, Peptic, Skin And Varicose), Uric Acid Excretion, Urinary Incontinence, Viral Destruction, Vitiligo, Virility Increases, Vitamins Increase In Quantity & Pot,ency, Wound Healing, White Blood Cells Increase, Whooping Cough.

SUNBATHING STRENGTHENS MUSCLES

Dr. Zane R. Kime writes, "Tuberculosis patients being treated by sunbathing have been observed to have well-developed muscles with very little fat, even though they have not exercised for months."

"The Romans made use of the sun in training their Gladiators, for they knew that sunlight seemed to strengthen and enlarge the muscles."

"A study of the results of combined sunlight and exercise, showed that a group that was getting the sunlight treatments with exercise, had improved almost twice as much as shown by their electrocardiograms, as had those who only exercised, even though both groups were on a general health resort treatment program."

SUNBATHING HELPS DEPRESSION

Why winter makes you depressed? Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) hits around 100,000 people and develops into severe depression as daylight decreases in the winter. If SAD sufferers get out and get some sunlight during winter, they will relieve their depression, writes Dr. Keki R. Sidhwa.

SUNLIGHT HEALED SOLDIERS UNDER SURGERY FASTER DURING WORLD WAR II

Using sunlight instead of light from surgical lamps, healed soldiers undergoing surgery faster during World War II, writes Dr. Carl Hoffminster. Injured soldiers healed and survived much, much better when their open wounds and broken bones were exposed to sunlight.

ABSENCE OF SUNLIGHT CAUSES BLINDNESS

"Animals who live out their lives in a complete absence of light are commonly blind, even eyeless," writes Harvey Diamond.

"Those who live in dungeons, cellars, prisons, mines, and similar places denied sunlight, grow weak, pale and sick. The eyeless -5- fish of sunless caves constitute but one example of the baneful influence of the denial of sunlight. Mules kept in mines also become blind. Horses kept in dark stables and denied sunlight become blind. Darkness is better for sleep, light for waking activities," wrote Dr. Herbert Shelton.

SUNLIGHT WILL HELP HEAL YOUR EYES

"Gazing directly into the sun actually improves sight and aids in overcoming disease,," wrote Dr. Herbert Shelton.

WITHOUT SUNLIGHT YOU WILL DIE

"Without sunshine, there would be no life possible on earth," writes Dr. Edwin Flatto. The sun provides the basis for all life on earth.

The sun is the source of energy for all plants, and indirectly, for all animals. Sunlight purifies water, air and the surfaces of objects.

"Shut up the strongest man in a dark dungeon, and he becomes pale like a corpse, his blood loses its vitality, and he is liable to scrofulous disease. He loses the power of resisting disease influences," wrote Dr. Thomas Low Nichols.

"Take away the sunlight and all life on earth would soon perish. Deprived of sunlight, man loses physical vigor and strength and will develop a disinclination for activity," wrote Dr. Herbert Shelton. Shelton wrote that the "jailbird" who has been locked in his cell for sometime with a lack of sunlight, is in line for disease and will waste away.

Feed two animals the same diet but keep one in a dark closet and allow the other to be out in the sunshine. The animal that's kept in the closet will be weak, stunted and die prematurely.

FOR BEST RESULTS WHEN EXPOSED TO SUNLIGHT, DO NOT USE EYEGLASSES, SUNGLASSES, SUNLAMPS, SUNSCREENS, SUNTAN LOTIONS OR TANNING PILLS

Eyeglasses and contact lenses rob you of energy by blocking some of the ultra violet rays that travel through the eyes to the pineal gland, writes Patricia McCormac.

After discontinuing wearing his eyeglasses, Dr. John Ott writes that he exposed his eyes to the sunlight without lenses. His vision was much improved. He recommended similar therapy to his friends and they received similar improvement in their vision. Ott writes that nothing should block out the full spectrum of sunlight, no glasses of any kind to block the ultra violet rays, and especially, no dark glasses.

Sunglasses block healing ultra-violet light and thus contribute to the increased incidence of blindness and eye disease in this country, writes Dr. Jacob Liberman.

Suntan lotions should not be used because they can cause cancer, writes Dr. Zane R. Kime.

"Artificial sun-lamps can do irreparable damage. None of the lamps, regardless of the price, contain more than a few of the rays found in the sun. The ultra-violet rays, because of their short length in artificial lamps, can be very harmful," writes Dr. William Esser.

Sunscreen may actually increase the risk of cancer, so proposed California researchers in a paper published in January, 1993, in the Annals of Epidemiology. The researchers contended that UVB- blocking sunscreens had contributed to increasing skin-cancer rates, by disabling the body's natural alarm mechanism: sunburn. The researchers also posited that because UVB rays are the main source of vitamin D, and because vitamin D may inhibit the progression of melanoma, and because sunscreens block UVB rays- sunscreens might promote vitamin D deficiencies and cause melanomas. (UVB is the shorter wavelength of ultraviolet light that damages the skin. UVA is the longer of the two types of ultraviolet light that reaches the earth. UVA is responsible for tanning.)

In a study in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute in January,1993, researchers from the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center applied three common types of sunscreen to mice and then exposed most of them to sunlamps twice a week for three weeks. Melanoma cells were then injected into all the mice. The mice exposed to the ultraviolet (UV) rays, even if they were treated with sunscreen, had a higher incidence of melanoma than those not exposed to UV rays. The researchers theorized that sunscreens may allow enough UV to penetrate the skin to suppress the immune response and/or damage DNA, thus allowing tumors to develop.

UVA can cause skin cancer, particularly melanoma, according to the Texas researchers. The sunscreens used in the mouse study blocked little or no UVA.
Tanning pills are unsafe, writes Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports write that Canthaxanthin, a dye, used in tanning pills, builds up in the retina and liver, causes skin reactions and itching, and leads to a type of hepatitis.

If we choose to expose our nude skins to the sunshine, all we need do is pay attention to our bodies. Our bodies are always talking to us and we must learn to listen. If the sunshine is going to be harmful to us, our bodies will feel uncomfortable in the sunshine. This will force us to withdraw our bodies from the sunshine before the sunshine can injure us. DON'T BLOCK THE SUN OR YOU MAY DEVELOP CANCER BY REDUCING VITAMIN D ABSORPTION.

Anything that blocks sunshine from penetrating the skin will reduce the amount of vitamin D that the body makes.

People with lower levels of activated vitamin D are at greater risk for colon cancer, writes the Lancet.

Vitamin D "in man, absorption is through the skin," by the influence of sunlight, writes Dr. Viviana Virginia Vetrano.

HOW TO SUNBATHE CORRECTLY

"Sun-baths must, of course, be taken in the nude because clothing prevents passage of the sun's rays to the body and the result is only heat and sweat," writes Dr. William Esser.

"A full sunbath in the nude is ideal. This is not a mere cosmetic measure, but a health requirement for greatest value," wrote Dr. Herbert Shelton.

"Wild animal life spends the cool portions of the day in the sun and seeks the shade and rest when it is hottest," wrote Dr. Shelton.

"Absorb the sun's rays during the early morning or just before sunset, when the sun's rays are slanting, and when your shadow is longer than you are," writes Dr. Edwin Flatto.

"Rooms which are poorly ventilated, into which the sunshine is not permitted to shine and which are damp and not dried by your home heating system are destructive of both life and health," writes Rise Rafferty. Rafferty also writes, shutters and heavy curtains block the life-giving rays of sunlight from the chamber. This should not be so.

A sunny exposure, plenty of large windows, and no blinds or curtains, wrote Dr. Thomas Low Nichols.

CANCER OF THE BREAST, PROSTATE, REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS & COLON ARE CAUSED BY NOT EXPOSING THESE VITAL ORGANS TO THE SUN & AIR

Unfortunately we are forced in our "un-civilization to constantly keep covered with tight, restrictive garments and undergarments, brassieres, panties, underpants,& bathing suits, our breasts, prostates, reproductive organs and colons.

"No skin can be maintained in any thing like a clean condition if it 'does not come in contact with the sun and air," wrote Dr. -8- Herbert Shelton.

Shelton also wrote "Complete organs may be removed from the body, not only the arms and legs, but some of the internal organs, and life will continue as before, but if the function of the skin is suspended for only a few minutes, death is the result" ... "The resistant powers of Elie-normal skin counteracts in a marvelous way those changes of temperature to which the body is so frequently subjected.

The skin weakened by clothing is unable to do this very effectively." "The skin that has become weakened by clothing serves as a less effective barrier to infectious matter from the outside."

"Man also breathes through his skin and it is vitally necessary that a constant supply of fresh pure air reach the skin if it is to carry on its respiratory function normally. A healthy skin is essential to normal health and can be had only by giving it the advantage of those agencies which are intended by nature to come in contact with and affect the skin."

"Anyone who ever had his feet to sweat knows how disagreeable is the odor that exudes from them when his or her shoes are removed. Every one is acquainted with the fact that the feet of the 'bare foot boy with cheeks of tan' may sweat the whole day through without producing such a condition. Why the difference? It is because the sun and air disintegrate and carry away the excretions from the skin of the feet. If they are tightly sealed up in those leather sweat boxes called shoes they are not only denied the benefits of light and air but are forced to remain in their own filthy exudations. Someday man will substitute the sun and air bath for the present water bath."

"The manual laborer goes to work on a hot summer day and sweats profusely throughout the day. His clothes become saturated with sweat. It gives off a very disagreeable odor. The hands and face which have been exposed to the sun and air do not give off such an odor. If one examines he finds the space between the man's body and his clothes occupied by foul hot air and gases which are very repugnant to the olfactory sense. The man is literally wallowing in his own excretions, he has them bound to him by his clothing so that they escape slowly. This is filthy. This same thing is true of every one who wears clothes whether they are 'high collared' financiers or just plain folks. It is not true of those who work without clothing. This condition caused by the clothing weakens the skin. In many cases it is almost dead."

"Man's resistance to atmospheric changes is also lowered to such an extent that every time he meets a sudden change in temperature he suffers. The Indian could travel all day in a blinding snowstorm or swim frozen streams but if his 'pale face' brother attempted this he died a few days later of pneumonia. A skin debilitated by the hot house conditions produced by clothing is not an adequate protection for its owner. The sooner he begins to harden and revive it the better it will be for his health."

"This attitude toward clothes will have to pass away if man is again to enjoy the health and vigor that is his by right. In this we have said nothing about the evils of corsets and high heeled shoes worn by women and the worse styles in men's clothing, as we were dealing with clothes as they exclude the light and air from the body. The effects of these two things are indeed bad."

"So prone are we to regard those conditions under which we are born and reared as natural and to look upon those things which the majority of mankind do as an average as the best for us to do as a whole that almost everyone regards clothing as both natural and best for man.

The fact is, clothing is both artificial and harmful." "In truth man was designed by the Creator to enjoy the direct rays of the sun and the soothing and strengthening influence of the winds over the whole surface of his body. He is by nature a nude animal."

Dr. C. W. Saleeby, wrote in, "Sunlight and Health", " ... this most beautiful, versatile and wonderful organ (skin) is, for the most part, smothered, blanched and blinded in clothes, and can only gradually be restored to the air and light which are its natural surroundings. Then, and only then, we learn what it is capable of."

Arnold Rickli, whose sun and air institution in Switzerland attracted patients from all over the world in the 19th century, wrote: "Man is made to live in the open air; therefore when exposed to the action of light, air and sun, he is in his real element. As a natural agent, water takes only an inferior place, above it comes air, whilst light takes precedence of every other natural agent, and is the greatest essential wherever organic life exists. The nervous system, which is an inherent principle of our organism is acted upon by light, especially through the skin. The purpose of the air treatment is the strengthening of the skin by restoring its natural functions and vitality and elasticity it has absorbed from its primitive state when directly in contact with the skin."

Sylvester Graham, wrote in "Lectures on The Science of Human Life": "If man were always to go entirely naked, the external skin, the anatomical structure and functional character and relations of which we have fully contemplated, would be preserved in a more healthy and vigorous state, And perform its functions more perfectly, and thereby the whole human system in all its properties, powers and interests, would be benefitted; the circulation, and particularly the venous circulation which is near the surface, would be more free, full and perfect; respiration or breathing would also be more free, full and perfect; voluntary action would be more u~restrained and easy; the bones would be less liable to disease and distortion; all the muscles of voluntary motion would be better developed and more powerful; in short, the anatomical development and symmetrical proportion, and the physiological power, and functions of every part in the whole system, would be more perfect; and, as a natural consequence, the sensual appetites would be more purely instinctive, and exert a less energetic and despotic influence on the mental and moral faculties, and imagination would be deprived of its greatest power to do evil".

EAT FRUITS & PLANTS TO GET STORED SUN ENERGY

Fruits and plants have the ability to trap and store sun energy. We get our energy from eating fruits and plants. When we eat fruits & green leafy vegetables, we are eating stored sun power.

SUNBATHING HAS BEEN USED TO HEAL, SINCE THE DAWN OF HISTORY

"For untold centuries the sun has been worshiped as the visible symbol of the creative power," wrote Bernarr McFadden.

"From the dawn of history the sun has been utilized specifically as an aid to the restoration of health and as a means of maintaining and increasing it. The ancient, Greeks and Romans, Egyptians and Assyrians, Arabians, Babylonians and Cretans, the Aztecs, and the early Chinese and Japanese, the inhabitants of India and most of the other nations that were glorious in their day, derived their superb health partly from their contact with the rays of the sun, and healed their ailments by their aid."

HIPPOCRATES, THE FATHER OF MEDICINE, PRACTICED THE SUN-CURE

Hippocrates, "the Father of Medicine", practiced the sun-cure in the temple of Esculapius on the island of Cos, in ancient Greece.

Hippocrates used "medicine (drugs) very little but relied upon sunlight, hydrotherapy, diet and water drinking, rest, and gymnastic exercise," wrote Bernarr McFadden. SUNBATHING HELPS EVERYONE LOOK, FEEL, GET AND FUNCTION BETTER
Everyone sick or well, looks better, feels better, gets better and functions better, after exposing every part of their nude bodies to the beautiful sunshine. Sunbathe each moment you can. It helps you in every possible way!





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John, YEAH. What do you make of my aunt who is allergic to water. She breaks out in hives.

WEIRD HUH.


I love the sun, but when my toddlers out in the sun too much, they get moles that appear. They are so fair and I know every inch of their body. I notice this, What do you think this is from?

I have tiny new brown moles all over my body. I do. I was a nude sunbather in Miami Beach over the last decade.

I want to believe the sun is good. I do think it is. But do you think the atmosphere has changed?

Brilliant post John. The sun is our greatest blessing, yet some regard it as our worst enemy.

In the truck driver picture aurugal posted as an example of skin UV damage ...

[www.nejm.org]

... it's easy to jump to the conclusion that his doctors and aurugal did but to me, just an amateur hour Nancy Drew detective, I have to say WTF?! Look at the guy's eyes! Even for those who know nothing about iridology (or don't even believe eyes can tell anything about a person's health) it's must be admitted that those brown areas around his pupils have got to mean something since kids who have always been healthy never have that crap clouding up the iris. Notice how much worse that junk is in the side his face is disfigured on, too.

Those of you who are not iridology deniers, and have investigated it even a little, will notice immediately that this truck driver's really big problem is that his intestinal system is extremely effed up.

Just because the disfigured side of his face happened to be exposed to more sun in no way means the sun caused the ugly. The doctors Rx for the man's problem is beyond silly, IMO. I'm almost hoping those doctors got their degrees at a degree mill - or at least that they were just dermatologists and not his primary doctors.

coconutcream Wrote:
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> When I was hanging around goth circles, you know
> Denny's at 2 am after the club, I met a girl who
> was really pale and she said she had porphyria. I
> laughed, assuming she was lying, everyone knows it
> is the "vampires" disease and I was hanging out
> with wannabe's so I didn't think much of it. It
> turns out it is a rare disease, that you cannot
> stand sunlight- allergic to garlic and have
> serious blood issues. What do you know. The
> vampire's disease.
>
> Now what Suez says, Progeria, that was in another
> vampire goth movie. Called The Hunger. A mother
> Vampire, had lovers who lived 1000s of years but
> always wound up dying and living all eternity in
> coffins in this lady's attic. She was trying to
> find a cure for her lovers to live eternally like
> her so she met a doctor, Susan sarandon, but they
> fell in love, anyways, she was studying that
> disease..in order to find a cure for longevity.
>
> Movies like Renaissance, Jack and The Hunger also
> had references to this disease.
>
> SUEZ take a look, Willem Defoe as a Junkie: THE
> HUNGER


Hey, put that bong down. Lol.

KFCA Wrote:
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> Love them all! They ALL lie so much makes my
> genealogy hobby so interesting.
>
> My original Alt,Health Guru subject was Dr.
> (maybe/maybe not) Norman Wardhaugh Walker, the
> juice guy. Moved on to Paul C. Bragg/Patricia
> Bragg. Then Ann Wigmore. Then Dr. (well he
> actually was once a dentist) Louis Estes. Then
> Jack LaLanne.
>
> Just today I ran across an article in the Midland
> Reporter Telegram, Midland, TX. dated Jan. 20,
> 1977 on Ann Wigmore, who was passing through. She
> claimed that 17 years ago, that would be 1960, she
> cured herself of crippling arthritis, asthma, and
> her gray hair. I believe that was the exact same
> time at other places she claimed to cure herself
> of colon cancer, though needless to say that that
> malady was not mentioned there. Like an old
> friend used to say, the trouble with lying is that
> you have to have a good memory to remember what
> story you told the last time.

What you have dug up on these liars will never be anything but reburied by true believers like john rose.

"If
we live long enough and don't die of something else
we will inevitably die of cancer."

"Up to 90% of what we think is aging is actually sun
damage. This damage is elective."


I wish you would stop making false statements and acting as if they were factual when they couldn't be further from the truth. People who are extremely healthy eating a raw, organic diet rich in phytochemicals, super foods, super herbs, etc. are not going to get eventually get cancer just because they're getting older. Also, you have zero evidence that sun damage is to blame for the skin of any of the people you mentioned. And yes, you can repair and protect DNA by consuming lots of phytochemicals, antioxidants, nucleic acids, etc.

Living Food wrote:
"Brilliant post John. The sun is our greatest blessing, yet some regard it as our worst enemy."

I absolutely agree, like nature designed us as a furless ape and we are destined to create clothing and houses to shield ourselves from the evil of the Sun/Light