Brought to us by Dan the Man - who I'm thankful to for letting Tavis talk for most of the video. Thanks, Dan!

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to lose weight, in general, you have to eat less calories. It has nothing to do with carbs. The atkins diet worked because they ate less calories, not because of cutting carbs, sugars and using ketones. It worked because they ate high protein, which causes the body to lose appetite, which in turn makes people eat less (low calory diet). It took many years and scientific studies to figured this out. You can see the full documentary here:

BBC Documentary The Atkins Diet (49:03):

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Panchito Wrote:
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> to lose weight, in general, you have to eat less
> calories. It has nothing to do with carbs. The
> atkins diet worked because they ate less calories,
> not because of cutting carbs, sugars and using
> ketones. It worked because they ate high protein,
> which causes the body to lose appetite, which in
> turn makes people eat less (low calory diet). It
> took many years and scientific studies to figured
> this out. You can see the full documentary here:
>
> BBC Documentary The Atkins Diet (49:03):
>
> [www.youtube.com]


Panchito, you may not understand this but your post is totally irrelevant to The Conductivity Diet which is neither a high protein diet nor is it a ketogenic diet.

"to lose weight, in general, you have to eat less calories."

Not true, there are a variety of factors at play when it comes to losing weight beyond eating fewer calories - metabolism, food choices, physical activity, hormones, detoxing, etc.

The funny part is that nobody has studied the nutritional deficeincy (ie. RDAs) of the low calory atkins diet (high protein). On the book they say to "eat all you want" to theoretically cover the RDAs requirements. They present this information this during diet discussions.

You have two realities, the theoretically one the book tries to present and the one people have to follow i order to lose weight (a realistic low calory diet). If they put the realistic version on the table during discussions like for example against the Dean Ornish diet, they would lose as their diets would be deficient in many important things.

In conclusion, the Atkins diet is a fake show that pushes supplements, hides information from diet possible adopters (they don't tell them about the low calory requirement), and it is unhealthy because of the animal product it is based on (fat, protein). The Atkins diet is much worse than a high carb diet.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Panchito Wrote:
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> but your post is totally irrelevant to The Conductivity Diet which is neither a
> high protein diet nor is it a ketogenic diet.

My opinion was sparked from hearing the opinion of Tavis against carbs (makes you fat). His position was to stay away from carbs to lose weight. That is similar to the AtkinS argument. The documentary I posted show the false cause and the hiding of the real cause (low calory). There is more stuff but I am not going to write everything. My guess is that to lose weight you need a low calory diet relative to the physical activities and metabolism.



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Panchito Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
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> -----
> > Panchito Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > but your post is totally irrelevant to The
> Conductivity Diet which is neither a
> > high protein diet nor is it a ketogenic diet.
>
> My opinion was sparked from the hearing the
> opinion of Tavis against carbs and becoming fat.
> His position was to stay away from carbs to lose
> weight. That is similar to the AtkinS argument.
> The documentary I posted show the false cause and
> the hiding of the real cause (low calory). There
> is more stuff but I am not going to write
> everything.

Right. Your comprehension of the video's content is extremely low. Those shoehorned comparisons of yours - I'm embarrassed for you.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Right. Your comprehension of the video's content
> is extremely low. Those shoehorned comparisons of
> yours - I'm embarrassed for you.

In the 00:50 second he says:

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To lose weight, cut out all your sugars. Take away every sugar in your diet. Actually, I would recommend taking out all your carbs. I mean, that's what I do. I take out all the carbs. I take out all the sugar. And then I use as the main sources of burning the fat away the astringent family...

Suez, I don't take personal that you are embarrashed of me. I feel good. Actually, I got used to being personally attacked when I challenge the opinions of people's masters and find it normal. Tavis is your current master as I understand. He is a nice guy and I have nothing personal against him. But if you want to keep the converstation well mannered, please try to restrain your negative emotional impulses. It makes things easy and civilized. And to be fair, I've only watched luike the first 2 minutes or so.

Maybe he makes really good sense
But why cayenne pepper?
Why is that a food?
It burns

Panchito Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right. Your comprehension of the video's
> content
> > is extremely low. Those shoehorned comparisons
> of
> > yours - I'm embarrassed for you.
>
> In the 00:50 second he says:
>
> To lose weight, cut out all your sugars. Take away
> every sugar in your diet. Actually, I would
> recommend taking out all your carbs. I mean,
> that's what I do. I take out all the carbs. I take
> out all the sugar. And then I use as the main
> sources of burning the fat away the astringent
> family...
>
> Suez, I don't take personal that you are
> embarrashed of me.


Comprehension again. "of" is not "for"


>I feel good.


You feel good by trying to make me feel bad I guess.


Actually, I got
> used to being personally attacked when I challenge
> the opinions of people's masters and find it
> normal. Tavis is your current master as I
> understand. He is a nice guy and I have nothing
> personal against him.

Yes, Tavis does seem to be a nice guy. Your first post certainly doesn't make you sound like you have nothing against him.

>But if you want to keep the
> converstation well mannered, please try to
> restrain your negative emotional impulses. It
> makes things easy and civilized. And to be fair,
> I've only watched luike the first 2 minutes or so.

If you want to make things easy for yourself you will have to learn to watch and understand videos before you comment on them. If you want things to stay positive you will have to read and understand the text you are responding to. It's simple really. Don't go off half @#$%& before you know what you're talking about. That's what civilized people do.

P.S. In my last post I almost asked you if you had only watched the first few minutes but I didn't ask because I thought that might be too mean of a thing to say ...



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It's very rude to hi-jack a thread like this and make it about something irrelevant like the Atkins Diet. I would like to hear what people have to say about the actual topic. So frustrating. Can't blame the OP for being pi$$ed.

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1 Tavis video:

To lose weight, cut out all your sugars. Take away every sugar in your diet. Actually, I would recommend taking out all your carbs. I mean, that's what I do. I take out all the carbs. I take out all the sugar. And then I use as the main sources of burning the fat away the astringent family...

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2 Panchito wrote:

My opinion was sparked from hearing the opinion of Tavis against carbs (makes you fat). His position was to stay away from carbs to lose weight.That is similar to the AtkinS argument.

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3 Suez wrote to Panchito:

Right. Your comprehension of the video's content is extremely low. Those shoehorned comparisons of yours - I'm embarrassed for you.

Suez, from the above quotes, would you mind explaining why you think my comprehension is low?



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In Panchito's eyes, it's okay for him to insult and make derogatory remarks about other people but when others do it to him, he backs down and cries that he's being personally attacked. He's never challenged anyone's opinions with anything significant - he makes useless comments based upon his delusional, false beliefs and tries to play it off as factual to make it look like he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't - far from it. He knows how to eat lots of fruit and go to the YMCA after working all day in a cubicle in front of a computer, that's about it.

Panchito actually had the gall to say "if you want to keep the converstation well mannered, please try to restrain your negative emotional impulses. It makes things easy and civilized" immediately after accusing someone of having a "master". Guy is completely wrecked in the head.

[dictionary.reference.com]

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6. a person whose teachings others accept or follow:

"a Zen master."

jtprindl Wrote:
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> it's okay for him to insult
> and make derogatory remarks about other people but
> when others do it to him, he backs down and cries
> that he's being personally attacked. He's never
> challenged anyone's opinions with anything
> significant - he makes useless comments based upon
> his delusional, false beliefs and tries to play it
> off as factual to make it look like he knows what
> he's talking about. He doesn't - far from it.
>
> Guy
> is completely wrecked in the head.

Why are people who are not even raw vegans, and don't even care to try to be raw vegans, trolling this thread?


Are there no non-raw sites with forums where they can be with their own people or something?

Considering the composition of your diet and its cancer-promoting properties, you would be a better fit for the Atkins-Paleo boards who feel that the carbohydrate is a deadly poison, preferring to stuff themselves with fat and protein. There you will find many like-minded people who are allergic to and fearful of plants and full of bile.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Why are people who are not even raw vegans, and
> don't even care to try to be raw vegans, trolling
> this thread?

You did not explain your previous statement.

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Right. Your comprehension of the video's content is extremely low. Those shoehorned comparisons of yours - I'm embarrassed for you.

Instead, you decided to ignore it and start a new form of personal attack (troll) based on your emotions. I empathize with your reactions when faced with different opinions. They are normal but unfortunately they fail to convince.



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arugula Wrote:
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> Considering the composition of your diet and its
> cancer-promoting properties, you would be a better
> fit for the Atkins-Paleo boards who feel that the
> carbohydrate is a deadly poison, preferring to
> stuff themselves with fat and protein. There you
> will find many like-minded people who are allergic
> to and fearful of plants and full of bile.


You REALLY need some chocolate in addition to a non-raw vegan site's forum where people will feel and think more as you do about eating a raw vegan diet.

WHERE IN THE HELL did panchito insult anybody?

he commented on the video.

what kind of a freaking psycho (zeus) cannot allow someone to make any damn point that he wants to make?

and how the hell does Panchito make SUEZ FEEL BAD?

is this some kind of a joke? are you that hypersensitive suez that you need to control every utterance that anybody makes?

my god, CTFU, for crying out loud.

actually his comment was SPOT ON - it does not matter how much he watched.

I totally agree with what he said and he did not hijack the thread.

he posted what was a relevant comment for him.

thanks for posting that panchito I am going to check out your link.

now in regards to the video, that was the most embarrassing spew of illogical unsupported unscientific rubbish I have heard in quite some time.

guess what, I'm allowed to say that too!

I will spare you my detailed comments as it is a waste of time.

maybe you could quadruple up on the BS by getting brian clement and david wolfe in one video too.

oh wait, nevermind, thank you lord suez for posting the video, I agreed with every word both of them said!!!! is that what we are supposed to say?

" and how the hell does Panchito make SUEZ FEEL BAD?"

He doesn't. I never said he made me feel bad. You seem to be suffering from the same comprehension problems that Panchito does. At least for him English is not his first language.

"You feel good by trying to make me feel bad I guess. "

oh, ok. just something almost identical to that.

here's the problem -you identified/attached to the video.
detach. it's ok, we all do it.



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"WHERE IN THE HELL did panchito insult anybody?"

Who said it was in this very thread? He's done it over and over again in plenty of threads.

fresh Wrote:
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> "You feel good by trying to make me feel bad I
> guess. "
>
> oh, ok. just something almost identical to that.
>
> here's the problem -you identified/attached to the
> video.
> detach. it's ok, we all do it.


If you are trying to prove just how low your comprehension is - congrats, you did it.

Who said it was in this very thread?


Suez did.
>Your first post certainly doesn't make you sound like you have nothing against him.
>But if you want to keep the
> converstation well mannered, please try to
> restrain your negative emotional impulses. It
> makes things easy and civilized. And to be fair,
> I've only watched luike the first 2 minutes or so.





>mmediately after accusing someone of having a "master". Guy is completely wrecked in the head.

nothing particularly wrong with him saying that - unless you wish to see evil intent everywhere as you do. "wrecked in the head"?
calm down dude.

typical of you to avoid anything of substance.

and do please provide us with scientific support for all those statements in the video. love to see that.



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That's a totally valid that should be discussed. It's on topic. No one wants to hear some out of left-field rant about the Atkins Diet.

fresh Wrote:
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> Who said it was in this very thread?
>
>
> Suez did.
> >Your first post certainly doesn't make you sound
> like you have nothing against him.
> >But if you want to keep the
> > converstation well mannered, please try to
> > restrain your negative emotional impulses. It
> > makes things easy and civilized. And to be fair,
>
> > I've only watched luike the first 2 minutes or
> so.
>
>
>
>
>
> >mmediately after accusing someone of having a
> "master". Guy is completely wrecked in the head.
>
> nothing particularly wrong with him saying that -
> unless you wish to see evil intent everywhere as
> you do. "wrecked in the head"?
> calm down dude.
>
> typical of you to avoid anything of substance.
>
> and do please provide us with scientific support
> for all those statements in the video. love to
> see that.

everybody is different HH.

I can accept that you didn't want to hear about atkins, but it does not need to derail anything.
perhaps you may accept that other people were glad to make note of it.

"typical of you to avoid anything of substance."

Except for the whole destroying all your weak, dogmatic arguments regarding fruit and vegetable diets just a few days ago.

"calm down dude."

Coming from the guy who tells people to kill themselves and every time he posts is always getting into an altercation with someone. I'm calm as a cucumber - you and Panchito like to foolishly play expert and don't like it when someone snaps you back into reality.

I think Hera is using Zeus's account.

There's plenty of cyber-space available for everyone. Perhaps it would be best to start a thread about the Atkins Diet instead of hijacking this one with a repetitive agenda.

fresh Wrote:
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> everybody is different HH.
>
> I can accept that you didn't want to hear about
> atkins, but it does not need to derail anything.
> perhaps you may accept that other people were glad
> to make note of it.