I know its a by product of success on the raw vegan diet, a hot body is, but to some its the end all, correct?

But are there any great minds out of raw veganism?

Can we think of examples? I know Steve Jobs was a fruitarian around when Apple started..


Is there a before and after of iq's?

Does a junkie go on the raw vegan diet and then to become a nuclear physicist?

Have we any examples of the raw vegan diet, which is the cleanest most alive living diet out there, changing a mans thoughts and brain to a point where it can be significantly improved?

Do we have any stories like that out there?


Or all all raw vegans good for is thinspiration? Or masterbation material?





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Some of them are very pretty to look at.

I think that some of them feel improved on a spiritual level.

But no it will not make anyone a career physicist or mathematician at the top of the field. To do that one has to be weaned from an early age, put in a special school or have special training, be competing with people on the same level or slightly higher from an early age--those things develop the analytical aspects of the mind and greatly extend the ability for abstract thought.

A lot of people who try to study higher math in mid-adulthood hit the wall at abstract algebra. They do not have a background in proving theorems. I've known hundreds of such people.

It's even worse for classical pianists. There is virtually 0% chance of taking up the piano in midlife and becoming a successful performing artist. You have to develop the neural networks and plasticity in youth and get very advanced by a very early age.

No diet can make up for that.



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started at age 20. rare to start at that age i gather. was violinist.

[www.youtube.com]

He was preciously developed from a very early age, and played piano then, too. Most classical violinists are also pianists. He merely switched his focus away from the violin.

Find me one who had no classical training ever who has a recording and performing career in classical music.

albert frantz? 17



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Being raw makes you better at what you do, way better.

www.thesproutarian.com

Since going raw, I've had SO much more energy, improved focus and think a lot clearer. Those factors have all allowed me to be more productive. The longer I stay raw, the more things I need to find to fill my time (seriously, I have a constant state of euphoria/energy that make me feel like I'm on some kind of stimulant!). For me, that means more creative projects with better results because of greater attention to detail. For someone with a more mathematical or science based mind, that could indeed lead to great ideas that could even be revolutionary. Glowing skin a great figure is just a benefit, but I am convinced going raw improves you as a whole. I think Sproutarian has a good point- it makes you better at what your naturally good at

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Minor league.

Doesn't seem like there's anything more to it than vanity sometimes. Whenever I hear someone playing music and having written songs themselves for example being a raw vegan the songs are about fruits and vegetables and spiritual mumbo-jumbo??? most seems to lack the appreciation of the darkness inside of them, cause they believe that is bad for your health, which may be true. But truth seems to be that to become creative in a more sublime sense there needs to be awareness and recogniction not only of the light but the dark and the shadows too, otherwise everything that is left is a surface bathing in light.



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..then it's like taking photos in intense sunlight. They all turn out @#$%& because details and nuances are eaten up by the light

That's why I only personally are drawn to people with a level of sadness in them in general. Because how can anyone relate to an enlightened being really? I mean, it's good for them and all that they are jolly, but where do I fit in in that? Nowhere...

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not bad for starting at 17

Somebody once said it's more likely that you will be elected President of the United States than make it into the top-tier of classical recording artists.

This is more typical for a top-level classical pianist:

She started at 3, made her debut at 8 and continues to astound:
[en.wikipedia.org]

Lisitsa, who made her own career through the unusual route of social media, also started at 3. She practices 10 hours a day.

Benjamin Grosvenor, who was another astounding prodigy, is a vegan, but I do not know if he is raw.

It's true that much of the intelligence, skill, and talent someone develops is because of how they were brought up from a young age. Our personality is set very early in life too (around 5-7 years). And then there's genetics...

Improvements in mental clarity is an obvious improvement when eat a healthy diet, but it's not going to make someone a genius.

There are cases that changes in the brain can happen from injury or some other reason, and suddenly they get extremely good at something, but this is rare. The brain tends to allocate resources or have a maximum amount of erm, bandwidth? to solve problems and interpret what it receives. Much of this is determined early in life when the brain is most plastic, and can't be changed later in life.

There are little "hacks" we can do to improve abilities, like memory recall. For instance, we are far better at remembering something when we close our eyes than if we keep them open. This is because more processing power becomes available.

So, although neurogenesis continues in adulthood, you're not going to suddenly turn into an Einstein; but you can improve your IQ and other things by working hard with your new-given clarity and energy. :p

TL;DR Yes you can improve your IQ, but it's unlikely you'll become a "genius" simply because of changing your diet.

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mattscr Wrote:
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> It's true that much of the intelligence, skill,
> and talent someone develops is because of how they
> were brought up from a young age. Our personality
> is set very early in life too (around 5-7 years).
> And then there's genetics...
>
> Improvements in mental clarity is an obvious
> improvement when eat a healthy diet, but it's not
> going to make someone a genius.
>
> There are cases that changes in the brain can
> happen from injury or some other reason, and
> suddenly they get extremely good at something, but
> this is rare. The brain tends to allocate
> resources or have a maximum amount of erm,
> bandwidth? to solve problems and interpret what it
> receives. Much of this is determined early in life
> when the brain is most plastic, and can't be
> changed later in life.
>
> There are little "hacks" we can do to improve
> abilities, like memory recall. For instance, we
> are far better at remembering something when we
> close our eyes than if we keep them open. This is
> because more processing power becomes available.
>
> So, although neurogenesis continues in adulthood,
> you're not going to suddenly turn into an
> Einstein; but you can improve your IQ and other
> things by working hard with your new-given clarity
> and energy. :p
>
> TL;DR Yes you can improve your IQ, but it's
> unlikely you'll become a "genius" simply because
> of changing your diet.


I turned into Einstein over night after having a bowl of raw broccoli

I turned into Einstein over night after having a stiff doe of magic mushrooms, but when I woke up I forgot much of what I knew...

Personally, I have helped many people heal and get well.
That is what I choose to do with my knowledge.
Spread kindness, compassion for animals and the environment,
and awareness of ones self and the effects of the foods they eat.

I believe our job is to raise awareness and spread a message
to support the things that better ourselves and the environment.

Many people these days are sick, misled with false information,
and see people like us and want that kind of health.

Interestingly, along the topic of IQ, women who eat meats at high
temperatures such as grilling during pregnancy, remarkably lower
the IQ of their child to the point where it is very evident in
their schoolwork.

Once when I was fasting on juices, I was working in an office and I had these feelings of pure bliss when I heard songs such as 70's soft rock like Hello its me, Right down the line. or Jackie Blue....and for the first time since my childhood I could hear the notes and it used to fill me with bliss. I was doing alot of green juices. SO yes, at times I can really feel music. Better than I ever have. It can take me to places so high.





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Music is an amazing thing!~

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