I would like to discuss dental health and the
prevention of cavities on a high fruit based diet.

Please discuss experience and tips for dental hygiene
as well as any research that may be beneficial.

I know this tends to be a topic of interest so I was hoping
people with several years of experience could offer their knowledge as well.

Thanks for contributing!~

I floss twice a day and brush about 5 times a day and drink water like on any other diet I've been on. It's not rocket science.

If you don't have immediate access to a toothbrush, swish your teeth with water to rinse the acid off.

Exeggutor Wrote:
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> I would like to discuss dental health and the
> prevention of cavities on a high fruit based
> diet.
>
> Please discuss experience and tips for dental
> hygiene
> as well as any research that may be beneficial.
>
> I know this tends to be a topic of interest so I
> was hoping
> people with several years of experience could
> offer their knowledge as well.
>
> Thanks for contributing!~

Use a straw when drinking acidic fruit juices and don't brush your teeth right after eating acidic fruits. The acid in fruits slightly weakens the teeth so brushing immediately after eating them can do surface damage.

Use a water pick.

I haven't had any dental problems myself.
I'm just curious as to what measures people take.
I've heard the occasional horror story regarding teeth.

A water pick?

Exeggutor Wrote:
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> A water pick?

Yes. Nothing compares, IMO, for getting teeth as clean as you can get them at home. I like this one. It can hold a charge for a week or two which is especially nice for travel.

[www.amazon.com]

I use `perio' toothpaste from the Hippocrates Health Institute and it is excellent. Apparently it is one of the only toothpastes that kill ALL the bad bacteria in the mouth (most apparently don't kill very much) and kills off spiral-K (can't spell it) which is responsible for much of the tooth decay. Even better is to use a perio mouth wash and avoid the tooth brush all togeather according to Brian Clement.

Apparently, swishing wheatgrass juice in the mouth after eating fruit will only kill off 50% of this nasty spiral-K bacteria. This may be true, because when l was drinking two large trays of wheatgrass juice per day my teeth still got cavities with some fruit.

Personally l feel tooth brushes are not good and cannot get all througout the teeth, so special mouth wash (perio) is probably best used. If you can't get perio mouth wash you could consider wheatgrass juice to at least kill 50% of the bacteria.

I used to have tooth decay problems with fruit, but perio seems to have stopped it. At one time l had given up fruit for good because l didn't want to risk another cavity.

Why can'thumans be designed to grow a third, forth or fifth set of teeth if need be. Having only one adult set of teeth seems really dumb.

Nothing worse than being all raw and going to the dentist and getting a needle in the mouth, the toxins really knock you about.

www.thesproutarian.com



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2015 03:25AM by The Sproutarian Man.

"Nothing worse than being all raw and going to the dentist and getting a needle in the mouth, the toxins really knock you about."

Has this ever happened to you? Aren't there holistic or naturopathic dentists who can use something other than harsh chemicals?

jtprindl Wrote:
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> "Nothing worse than being all raw and going to the
> dentist and getting a needle in the mouth, the
> toxins really knock you about."
>
> Has this ever happened to you? Aren't there
> holistic or naturopathic dentists who can use
> something other than harsh chemicals?


This was a while back,l now know much better and have found some really good dentists.

I already mentioned in other threads, that a higher amount of the amino acid lysine (nuts and legumes) in the diet improves the saliva quality and prevents cavities somehow.

Very interesting. Thank you for the advice!
Does it just spray the teeth with water to clean?

SueZ Wrote:
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> Exeggutor Wrote:
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> > A water pick?
>
> Yes. Nothing compares, IMO, for getting teeth as
> clean as you can get them at home. I like this
> one. It can hold a charge for a week or two which
> is especially nice for travel.
>
> [www.amazon.com]
> chargeable-ToiletTree/dp/B00OQFH0OY/ref=sr_1_2?s=h
> pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1425005614&sr=1-2

> I use `perio' toothpaste from the Hippocrates Health Institute and it is excellent. Apparently it is one of the only toothpastes that kill ALL the bad bacteria in the mouth (most apparently don't kill very much) and kills off spiral-K (can't spell it) which is responsible for much of the tooth decay. Even better is to use a perio mouth wash and avoid the tooth brush all togeather according to Brian Clement.

Interesting advice! Thank you! I personally wouldn't be able to do the wheatgrass (can't handle the taste of green juices) but good advice!

According to Anne Osborne, in our natural state, we would not have problems with fruit and cavities but dietary habits from past generations predispose us to it. She talks about studies in which scientists tested and learned that it took several generations of raw food eaters to predispose the mouth and teeth with traits that were beneficial for eating fruit (I believe it was a bigger oral cavity and cavities weren't an issue)

Would Lysine still be present in cooked products?
As most nuts aren't really raw

Panchito Wrote:
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> I already mentioned in other threads, that a
> higher amount of the amino acid lysine (nuts and
> legumes) in the diet improves the saliva quality
> and prevents cavities somehow.

100 % pure olive oil soap is fantastic for brushing the teeth. Dr Judd wrote a book on it. It should restore cavities because the glycerin will be washed away and glycerin acts like a layer,so the teeth cannot restore itself if your brush with normal toothpaste. But pure,natural olive oil soap should do it.

cooking denatures proteins but does not destroy aminoacids (unless using a blowtorch). Lysine is an essential aminoacid that probably is one of the most needed in the human body. Preffered raw sources are nuts and seeds.

Panchito Wrote:
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> cooking denatures proteins but does not destroy
> aminoacids (unless using a blowtorch). Lysine is
> an essential aminoacid that probably is one of the
> most needed in the human body. Preffered raw
> sources are nuts and seeds.


2 bananas. same amount of lysine as tbsp of sunflower seeds.

preferred is in the eye of the beholder

I would go more signs of deficeincy than by numbers. Plant proptein is absorbed poorly and more is better just in case. A tell-tell sign of lysine deficiency is anxiety. If you think you freak out too much for small things, you are probably running low in lysine.

[www.pnas.org]

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In experimental animals, prolonged dietary lysine inadequacy increases stress-induced anxiety. If observed in humans, such a result would have a strong implication for the relationship between nutrition and communal quality of life and mental health.

[jn.nutrition.org]

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This report demonstrates that a 4-d long l-lysine deficiency in rats interfered with the normal circadian release of the neurotransmitter serotonin, but not dopamine, measured by in vivo microdialysis in the central nucleus of the amygdala.

MY ADVICE

If you are going to go raw, or fruitarian, go 100%

And drinks lots of water, your teeth will start to feel clean, and like they are brand new, like you just been to cleaning, all the time, correct guys?

Not correct.
I am 99.999999999 percent raw.
I need good teeth too.
What should I do?
I cannot be 100 percent because it does not all depend on me.
My partner is 5 percent raw only.

This is one of the oddest things I've heard.
Does it taste like soap? I would have to look
in to this at the research.

ecomm Wrote:
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> 100 % pure olive oil soap is fantastic for
> brushing the teeth. Dr Judd wrote a book on it. It
> should restore cavities because the glycerin will
> be washed away and glycerin acts like a layer,so
> the teeth cannot restore itself if your brush with
> normal toothpaste. But pure,natural olive oil soap
> should do it.

> 2 bananas. same amount of lysine as tbsp of sunflower seeds.
Very interesting. Any other fruits?

> I would go more signs of deficeincy than by numbers. Plant proptein is absorbed poorly and more is better just in case. A tell-tell sign of lysine deficiency is anxiety. If you think you freak out too much for small things, you are probably running low in lysine.

Good info to know! Something to keep in mind.

> If you are going to go raw, or fruitarian, go 100%
> And drinks lots of water, your teeth will start to feel clean, and like they are brand new, like you just been to cleaning, all the time, correct guys?

I wouldn't say most of us are 100%. Most nuts/seeds are roasted before being sold even if they say they are "raw" thanks to labeling loopholes.

I have this clean feeling as well!





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2015 05:57AM by Exeggutor.

Exeggutor Wrote:
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Most
> nuts/seeds are roasted before being sold even if
> they say they are "raw" thanks to labeling
> loopholes.

Not if you know what you're doing when you buy. There are good sources out there.

Never said there wasn't. But, many of the more popular
nuts/seeds are poisonous in their raw state and not sold
as such for this reason.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Not if you know what you're doing when you buy.
> There are good sources out there.

Exeggutor Wrote:
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> Very interesting. Thank you for the advice!
> Does it just spray the teeth with water to clean?
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Exeggutor Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A water pick?
> >
> > Yes. Nothing compares, IMO, for getting teeth
> as
> > clean as you can get them at home. I like this
> > one. It can hold a charge for a week or two
> which
> > is especially nice for travel.
> >
> >
> [www.amazon.com]
>
> >
> chargeable-ToiletTree/dp/B00OQFH0OY/ref=sr_1_2?s=h
>
> > pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1425005614&sr=1-2

You've really never heard of a water pick? Seriously? I don't know where you are from but in the USA we've been using them for about 50 years. Here's some info for you ...

[www.oralcareshop.com]

Thank you for the info c:

SueZ
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> Here's some info for you ...
>
> [www.oralcareshop.com]

Exeggutor Wrote:
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> Thank you for the info c:
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> SueZ
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> > Here's some info for you ...
> >
> > [www.oralcareshop.com]

You're welcome. They work very well.

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