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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 03, 2015 07:39PM

"yes the nutritionist has done the same to me many times.
"fresh eats just dates and lettuce!!" or whatever .."

That was based of the diet menu that you yourself posted over the course of a month or so. The majority of it was dates, lettuce, and some form of citrus and you know it lol.

Anyways, now that we identified a major flaw in Panchito's diet, he can now work on fixing it and stabilizing his cognition.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 03, 2015 07:44PM

Fresh are you Panchito's biggest fan? Why do you always respond to posts that aren't directed towards you and try to answer questions for him when you're not in a position to do so? He said 1-2 cups daily in the recent past, and as I've demonstrated, even two ounces of nuts and seeds provides lots of omega-6's. I encourage you to do some research on O3:O6 ratios (what ratios are healthy, the negative effects of excessive O6, etc.).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2015 07:45PM by jtprindl.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: March 03, 2015 08:07PM

jtprindl, why don't you post a link to what you think I said instead of making parographs with your version? Don't understand how you are grieving all the time with just about evetrybody. Isn't that stress for you or it feels natural?

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 03, 2015 08:26PM

Notice how you still did not reply to the aforementioned post? Actions speak louder than words and your actions indicate an admission of ignorance.


[www.rawfoodsupport.com]
"I eat ~ a cup of nuts a day."
"I only eat a chunk of fat once a day and it is walnuts, almonds, and sometimes cashews. Maybe one cup total not sure. I also add two tea spoons of flax seeds to my smoothies. hmm...what else... I may eat an avocado a week. Some chia seeds on a salad. Some pumpkin seeds."

Yeah, that's a lot of fat for someone who promotes "low-fat" diets. I encourage you to strive for healthier O3:O6 ratios but as John Rose says, nobody can eat for you.


"Don't understand how you are grieving discussing topics all the time with just about evetrybody."

Fixed.

"Isn't that stress for you or it feels natural?"

I am rarely stressed.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: March 03, 2015 08:42PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> "yes the nutritionist has done the same to me many
> times.
> "fresh eats just dates and lettuce!!" or whatever
> .."
>
> That was based of the diet menu that you yourself
> posted over the course of a month or so. The
> majority of it was dates, lettuce, and some form
> of citrus and you know it lol.
>

i know exactly what it was.

and that is my point and the point of my alleged butt buddy too.

you take one thing and extrapolate it for your own criticism, even though my diet is varied over the year. thus your statement, that my diet consisted of XYZ, (implying always )that you made multiple times, and even got two other people to repeat it, was FALSE. maybe because your diet doesn't vary much, you think mine doesn't? i don't know. anyway, i know this is hard for you, but nothing a little adaptogen can't fix eh?

winking smiley

> Anyways, now that we identified a major flaw in
> Panchito's diet, he can now work on fixing it and
> stabilizing his cognition.

there you go again.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: March 03, 2015 08:45PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> Fresh are you Panchito's biggest fan?

yes!! the biggest!

Why do you
> always respond to posts that aren't directed
> towards you and try to answer questions for him
> when you're not in a position to do so?

nah, just once in a while.

He said
> 1-2 cups daily in the recent past, and as I've
> demonstrated, even two ounces of nuts and seeds
> provides lots of omega-6's. I encourage you to do
> some research on O3:O6 ratios (what ratios are
> healthy, the negative effects of excessive O6,
> etc.).

i have. i think you may be giving too much credence to what you and the studies think is healthy , and there's a range that is fine, and my ratio is fine.

but thanks for your concern.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 03, 2015 09:09PM

"i think you may be giving too much credence to what you and the studies think is healthy"

That's fine if you believe this but at the same time, the evidence is overwhelming in regards to the damage of excessive O6 intake and unhealthy O6:O3 ratios.

"and my ratio is fine."

If you feel this is true then by all means keep doing what you're doing.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: March 03, 2015 10:05PM

last time i checked it was o6yawning smiley3 was 3:2

it's been 1:1 to 4:1 from what i recall

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: March 04, 2015 02:42AM

lets review jtprindl numerical skills winking smiley

jtprindl Wrote:
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> Panchito is the most hypocritical person on this
> board, without question.
>
> 1.) Consistently promotes "low-fat" but eats two
> cups of nuts per day
.

Then, after I inquired about the actual link:

jtprindl Wrote:
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> [www.rawfoodsupport.com]
> "I eat ~ a cup of nuts a day."

Thanks jtprindl! That is half the amount. But like I thought you would do, you also omited important words from the second quote that you added to the first, though they were on the same page:

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jtprindl selected piece of his next selected piece:

"I only eat a chunk of fat once a day and it is walnuts, almonds, and sometimes cashews. Maybe one cup total not sure. I also add two tea spoons of flax seeds to my smoothies. hmm...what else... I may eat an avocado a week. Some chia seeds on a salad. Some pumpkin seeds."


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Panchito actual post

I only eat a chunk of fat once a day and it is walnuts, almonds, and sometimes cashews. Maybe one cup total not sure. I also add two tea spoons of flax seeds to my smoothies. hmm...what else... I may eat an avocado a week. Some chia seeds on a salad. Some pumpkin seeds. The trick is that I can tell when I over do the fat (bad cardio performance). So I follow a 'fat feedback' mechanism instead of a book rule. If I eat little fat, I also feel it in less sleep, grumpy, etc. So two feedbacks based on experience and performance. Now, you want me to tell YOU what you need? ja ja I can just barely tell myself what I need but it is ~15% fat give or take (it changes). One week I'll tell you I eat two handfull of nuts but the next week I would eat less. That's how it works. The trick is to have some feedback.



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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 04, 2015 03:02AM

Notice how you still did not reply to the aforementioned post? Actions speak louder than words and your actions indicate an admission of ignorance.


"Then, after I inquired about the actual link:"

Yeah, it was one cup, not two, I was mistaken. Regardless, still lots of fat and still promotes an unhealthy O6:03 ratio. So you eat roughly one cup of nuts on top of flax or chia seeds on top of sunflower or pumpkin seeds yet you continuously promote "low-fat" and even ridiculously claim fats are not needed for mental clarity even though you use EPA/DHA supplements. Hilarious!

It's clear that you have no interest in responding to the second-to-last post on the first page because it made you look like a fool. Anyways, I have far more important work to do than to expose your ignorance. It was fun while it lasted, though.

Recap:

1.) Panchito believes the brain's fat/water percentage is indicative of what our dietary fat percentages should be - WRONG.

2.) Panchito believes fats are not needed for mental clarity and the idea of such a thought is a fantasy - WRONG. And despite believing this still takes EPA/DHA supplements *shakes head*.

Watch, Panchito will now try and get the last word which will include an innuendo or insult. My work is done here.



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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: Panchito ()
Date: March 04, 2015 03:12AM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> Recap:
>
> 1.) Panchito believes the brain's fat/water
> percentage is indicative of what our dietary fat
> percentages should be - WRONG.

Can't you give me a break? Do I have to put Sesame Street signs so that you can understand things? I made a joke with a wink about eating 801010 because the brain was primarily water and because the argument of the person on the video was to eat fat becasue the brain was 60% fat or someting like that. I don't have time to counter your endless accusations. Give me break. It is as if you don't want time to pass in between your accusations just in case you win the next one.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: March 04, 2015 04:17AM

suncloud Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MCTs (specifically caprylic acid) in coconut
> oil
> > are broken down in the liver. They don't have
> to
> > be broken down with bile from the gall bladder
> so
> > they go quickly into the bloodstream, cross the
> > BBB, and pretty much instantly feed brain cells
> -
> > just as the caprylic acid in human breast milk
> > does.
>
> Definitely news to me that medium-chain
> triglycerides (MCTs) can cross BBB. Thanks SueZ.


You're welcome, Suncloud.


> I knew that MCTs from coconut oil were used with
> epilepsy, but hadn't made the connection.
> Apparently MCTs can also be helpful for
> Alzheimer's patients and for Type 1 Diabetics to
> provide fuel to the brain while keeping blood
> sugar low.



> One drawback may be that when glucose is
> deficient, even though MCTs will help some parts
> of the brain avoid deterioration from
> hypoglycemia, other parts may not respond so well.
> (See the 5th paragraph of the "Discussion"
> section in the link below):
>
> [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
> 1/
>
> That study is from 2007 though; so by now, there
> may be more information.

This study's subjects were diabetics who were already on "intensive insulin therapy" (eating God only knows what) who were artificially pushed to the edge then 'treated' with Novartis brand faux coconut oil MCT's. I just can't take it seriously and feel bad for the rats sacrificed for this worthless (IMO) study.


> I apologize for my earlier mistake!


I'm just glad you didn't seem to get mad about my post.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: Vitality ()
Date: March 04, 2015 09:52AM

He is so wrong it is hard to not get upset.

What low carb diets does is simulating fasting/starvation. When the fasting mind goes into ketosis, the mind does into an altered state. I have tried to go into ketosis with food (low carb, vegan) and with fasting and I can tell you that when fasting and you enter ketosis, the brain really gets clearer and it gets clearer the longer you fast. But when you eat low carb you only get this ketosis "buzz"--this stable energy which is on low level. It is much better to eat sugar because power and energy and focus increase with sugar it just does not feel so to those low carb dummies because they mistake ketosis "buzz" for mental clarity lol.

I think it's difficult to understand lowcarbos. We are naturally inclined to seek out carbohydrate, the body prefers carbohydrate source of fuel anytime, you can be in ketosis and drink a glass of juice and the body immediately changes energy source.

But of course, this is just mistakes by nature and we should avoid what tastes good to us (carbohydrate) and instead eat the things that are obxnious to our senses (flesh, fish, eggs)

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: March 04, 2015 01:04PM

SueZ Wrote:
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> suncloud Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > MCTs (specifically caprylic acid) in coconut
> > oil
> > > are broken down in the liver. They don't have
> > to
> > > be broken down with bile from the gall
> bladder
> > so
> > > they go quickly into the bloodstream, cross
> the
> > > BBB, and pretty much instantly feed brain
> cells
> > -
> > > just as the caprylic acid in human breast
> milk
> > > does.
> >
> > Definitely news to me that medium-chain
> > triglycerides (MCTs) can cross BBB. Thanks
> SueZ.
>
>
> You're welcome, Suncloud.
>
>
> > I knew that MCTs from coconut oil were used
> with
> > epilepsy, but hadn't made the connection.
> > Apparently MCTs can also be helpful for
> > Alzheimer's patients and for Type 1 Diabetics
> to
> > provide fuel to the brain while keeping blood
> > sugar low.
>
>
>
> > One drawback may be that when glucose is
> > deficient, even though MCTs will help some
> parts
> > of the brain avoid deterioration from
> > hypoglycemia, other parts may not respond so
> well.
> > (See the 5th paragraph of the "Discussion"
> > section in the link below):
> >
> >
> [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
>
> > 1/
> >
> > That study is from 2007 though; so by now,
> there
> > may be more information.
>
> This study's subjects were diabetics who were
> already on "intensive insulin therapy" (eating God
> only knows what) who were artificially pushed to
> the edge then 'treated' with Novartis brand faux
> coconut oil MCT's. I just can't take it seriously
> and feel bad for the rats sacrificed for this
> worthless (IMO) study.
>
>
> > I apologize for my earlier mistake!
>
>
> I'm just glad you didn't seem to get mad about my
> post.

One interesting thing I have discovered is that if my FBS is high (which happens when I go on a pomegranate cleanse - like now) I can oil pull for 5 minutes with one T. of raw centrifuged coconut oil to which I've added a drop of essential lemon oil and a drop of fulvic acid and in another 5 minutes my blood sugar drops back into healthy range! It's one of the most amazing things I've discovered on my raw food journey.

The recipe of the coconut oil/essential lemon oil/fulvic acid drop is from Tavis. He recommended it to someone else for some other purpose but I tried it for myself for my own unrelated issue and I'm sure glad I did. So far it's worked every time. You do have to swallow the mixture after you oil pull with it.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: coconutcream ()
Date: March 04, 2015 09:42PM

Suez beautiful story


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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: jtprindl ()
Date: March 04, 2015 09:59PM

"You do have to swallow the mixture after you oil pull with it."

Why would you do that? Then you're swallowing all of the toxins you just pulled out.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: coconutcream ()
Date: March 04, 2015 10:02PM









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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: March 04, 2015 10:29PM

jtprindl Wrote:
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> "You do have to swallow the mixture after you oil
> pull with it."
>
> Why would you do that? Then you're swallowing all
> of the toxins you just pulled out.

I brush my teeth first. I should have said 'swish it around in my mouth' rather than saying 'oil pull' to avoid confusion. It is only by swallowing the mixture that the blood sugar lowering occurs in my experimental experiences.

The reason for swishing around coconut oil in the mouth for five minutes before swallowing it is to digest the oil. Unlike most other oils this occurs mostly in the mouth for coconut oil by lingual lipase which enters the mouth from sublingual glands.

The lingual lipase breaks down the short and medium chain fatty acids which only then become antibacterial. Swishing the oil around in your mouth was Tavis' suggestion - he didn't say why. I looked into it and found out why for myself. Once you have done this a few times it becomes very clear when the coconut oil has been digested as much as it is going to be digested in your mouth as it losses all viscosity.

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: SueZ ()
Date: March 05, 2015 08:38PM

coconutcream Wrote:
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> Suez beautiful story

Oh, thank you Coconutcream! I somehow missed your post yesterday

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Re: Did David wolf went the dark side?
Posted by: coconutcream ()
Date: March 06, 2015 04:15PM




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