yes, TSM, aren't there any good berries nearby?

>Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian. They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make me sick and siffer brain issues,

are you sure? how would you know?

>but l had plenty of tricks l was doing to make it safe and reduce aldehydes. Never felt acidic or toxic, l felt amazing!!!

you are quite a character. that's the third diet that you have been on that's made you feel amazing. stimulating foods or low calorie diets can make you feel amazing short term.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2015 01:46PM by fresh.

John Rose:
My thoughts exactly.

fresh:
Brain issues, yes I think you nailed it...

Daniel Vitalis can apply the same argument to the meat he eats too, right? Animals are selectively bred.

I like his 'wild' message in other areas of life. But he's taking it to the point of being a fanatical douchebag, unfortunately.

I don't think the Vitamix he uses for his recipes is very 'wild' either.

Fruit is awesome, end of.

John Rose Wrote:
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> Herbert Shelton said that the more we eat of
> something the better we will be able to digest it,
> so MAYBE you didn't FIX anything and your body
> just finally got better at digesting it.


That was not the case with me, and l know of raw fooders who had trouble with digesting foods for years and never got better until we build up their bacteria levels. Just because Herbert Shelton says something does not make him an expert or right, what he has to say doesn't matter to me.




> I CAN'T EAT FRUIT SO I MUST ATTACK FRUIT!!!


I won't buy into that type of petty talk,there are far more important things to be concerned about.

>
> Yes, some of our Fruit leaves much to be desired,
> but we should NOT be ATTACKING FRUIT,

If it is ripe and fresh and eaten in small quantities by most, not a problem. Bananas on the other hand are a different matter.


>we should
> ATTACKING our Current Agricultural Methods, we
> should be ATTACKING MEAT & GRAINS & CHEMICALS &
> PROCESSED FOODS & COOKED FOODS, we should be
> ATTACKING Organized Medicine, we should be
> ATTACKING Organized Religion, we should be
> ATTACKING the STATUS QUO!!!


Plenty of people doing that. I see part of my job as helping the raw vegans who struggle on high fruit diets promoted by people. I feel sorry for them because they can't work out why things aren't working for them, and l am trying to wake them up that too many clueless people are gurus in the movement making one's chances of success very low.


>
> Our Salvation as a Species lies within a Raw Food
> Diet, which includes a copious amount of Fruits
> and to ATTACK FRUIT only shows one's LACK of
> Vision!


Pthh.


>
> Yes Brian, like so many others, YOU LACK VISION



Pthh. It's all relative. You would be very surprised how l think about things, only one person here knows the true extent of how l think. I wouldn't dare share publically how l think on most issues because it goes complex and deep beyond ordinary human understanding. It doesn't mean l am special, but when you meditate you can develop many abulities and understandings ordinary people don't...you see a bigger picture you dare don't share publically.


>
> If you are so enlightened, why don't you care
> about the masses?


No no no John. Enlightened people let the masses go about their business because they realise they are on a path where they can only be helped in limited amounts. What enlightened people focus on are the people who are ready to move and do better things. Most people are asleep and they are not going to change any time soon, and enlightened people recoognise this. Enlightened people have cpompassion for ordinary people, but they don't work with ordinary people because they are not ready for anything special in their current lifetime. I say...with ordinary people....give them a beer, a sports game, a t.v set and let them such on their thumbs until they are ready to do something different, for they are still cosmic children.


>
> When there are so many things to ATTACK, why do
> you ATTACK one of the things that will help make
> this world a better place?

Lots of people are doing that. I am a specialist John. I specialise in areas other people don't have knowledge in. I target specific people....the public don't generally qualify to spend much time with me, but sometimes l pass on some diet tips and basic knowledge.

I don't promote plant diets to average SADS people, because l have no intention spending effort trying to change their minds on anything. I only work with people who are seriously wanting to change their lifestyle and go raw vegetarian/vegan. But my favourites are the people who want it all, these people want the raw vegan lifestyle, to live off the grid and live a spiritual lifestyle seeking enlightenment. If you seek enlightenment and are prepared to do anything to get it, l will spend all the time needed to get that person started....l am doing that with a bunch of people at the moment. Fruit and diet is small time to me (a very small part of what really matters to me)....l like getting involved in the big game where one seeks enlightenment, that is where l fire up. Even if l can't eat fruit, so what, i've got far more important things to think about than something so petty like not being able to eat fruit. John, you do misunderstand me. I get involved wayyy about the fruit and diet game...l play the big game...l take it all the way.....wayyy beyond diet.


>
> Oh yea, you don't care about the masses and the
> only way you can promote your absurd way of eating
> is to ATTACK FRUIT.


I nhave compoassion for the human race, but we can't concern ourselves too much with them until they are ready to help themselves. The human race has heavy karma brought on by themselves, so we can't be too concerned about them...they need to wake up.

>
> Why don't you ATTACK MEAT & GRAINS & CHEMICALS &
> PROCESSED FOODS & COOKED FOODS in order to promote
> your absurd way of eating?


Lots of people are doing that, so l don't need to overlap the work of others. I am a specialist.

>
> It's because you are NOT enlightened and are
> extremely myopic and the only way you've figured
> out how to promote your absurd way of eating is to
> appeal to those who already know about Raw Foods
> and ATTACK FRUIT!!!


John, this type of carry on is getting us no-where.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2015 09:15PM by The Sproutarian Man.

Panchito Wrote:
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> I don't believe anybody would have problems with
> ALL fruits.

Apples tend to have a neutral effect.


>I am also surprise that TSM does not
> eat berries.

I like berries when they are picked off the vine, and l have them very occasionally (haven't eaten them in about 3 - 4 years). Pity they all aren't ripe on the bush because of the way in which they naturally grow. Never mind, l do break my rules and eat unripe fruit sometimes, but l am never happy about it.


fresh Wrote:
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> yes, TSM, aren't there any good berries nearby?


You mean those berries off the vine where about 5 - 10% of them are still unripe? Why do people want to eat unripe fruit? If you eat the sprouts you can get heaps of phytochemicals, and they are fresh.



>
> >Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian.
> They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make me
> sick and siffer brain issues,
>
> are you sure? how would you know?


I had great clarity and well being. Apparently l should have had severe brain fog and tiredness.


>
> >but l had plenty of tricks l was doing to make it
> safe and reduce aldehydes. Never felt acidic or
> toxic, l felt amazing!!!
>
> you are quite a character. that's the third diet
> that you have been on that's made you feel
> amazing. stimulating foods or low calorie diets
> can make you feel amazing short term.


I will say this. A fruit based diet never made me feel amazing short term even. It only served to tell me that these unripe non fresh low nutrient foods are not where the real game is at, and it told me that there is a reason why so many fail on them. How can people live on non fresh unripe fruit?...that is absurd.

In 20 years l have hardly seen any organic fruit and vegetables available at the shops that are fit to eat. When l see pictures online l also see the same low quality produce...lots of non fresh foods that are not properly ripe, and it is cringeworthy to see. No wonder so many do poorly on those type of diets. Remember what Brian Clement rightly said: due to the nature of fruit, only 5% is fit to eat because it is properly ripe off the tree/vine. But when it is sold in the shops it is no longer fresh either,so why would one bother with it. Isn't a big part of a raw diet about eating fresh?

Just one last thing. Bench ripened does not mean naturally ripened on the tree, nor will it be fresh, so lets not fool ourselves.

I see people post pics of their fresh fruit from their yard and it is still unripe. Like what Brian said, only a very small quanitity is fit to eat. I go to my local farm and see that hardly any fruit is properly ripe all over.

Vegans don't seem to care if they eat unripe fruit. Where is the standard??? The standard is very low and that is why so many fail to thrive on a raw vegan diet, but people strill haven't woken up yet so they bash the raw vegan diet in general instead of seeing the absurdity of what they were doing (eating non fresh unripe low nutrient food, and being so soft that they camn't even digest a sprouted seed).....we have made ourselves a laughing stock...too scared to eat grains, too scared to eat legumes, too scared to eat algaes, too scared to eat seaweeds, too scared to eat ferments,too scared to eat nuts. Pthh.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2015 09:45PM by The Sproutarian Man.

well done for answering in a graceful manner, TSM.

feels good to help others. glad you have a few that are open to your assistance.

Had a friend that was really sick so he asked me for help. I got him on the sprouts and he was feeling less depressed and his erection was coming back quickly. I strongly emphasised the need to consistently do the sprouting over a long period of time and not to neglect it for a single day. I said to start slowly and only do two jars worth of sprouts per day. Next time l came over l discovered he couldn't even manage 3 jars of sprouts per week because he couldn't be bothered helping himself. Then l discovered he was on pills to help him despite me warning about doing so. I was going to show him a heap of things, but he will not be getting anymore help until he wants to help himself by expending some effort. See, people want to be like children and want a quick fix because they don't want to put in the effort to get better the proper way. If he asks for help again he will be told in no uncertain terms to pull his finger out, be a man, be responsible for himself and to do it properly....he'll be given it right between the eyes and be given a big wakeup call because l am too busy to waste time on people who don't want to help themselves. Sometimes we need to get tough. I did everything for him...councelled him, bought things for him etc etc.

See, like John Rose said, when you do things for free for people many don't value it.

fresh Wrote:
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> glad you have a few
> that are open to your assistance.

I find the public to be generally uninteresting because much of their thinking is influeneced by the system. I love and will help these people when needed, but the less they talk the better it is. The human race really does talk way too much.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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> I got him on the sprouts and he was
> feeling less depressed and his erection was coming
> back quickly.


LOL!

TSM- "Had a friend that was really sick so he asked me for help. I got him on the sprouts and he was feeling less depressed and his erection was coming back quickly. I strongly emphasized the need to consistently do the sprouting over a long period of time and not to neglect it for a single day. I said to start slowly and only do two jars worth of sprouts per day. Next time l came over l discovered he couldn't even manage 3 jars of sprouts per week because he couldn't be bothered helping himself."

It's not your friend. It's your diet. It unworkable, unrealistic and has little chance of catching on. Who knows, maybe your friend came to suspect he was taking advice from possibly a mentally challenged person. Maybe that's why he lost his erection.



TSM-"When l see pictures online l also see the same low quality produce...lots of non fresh foods that are not properly ripe, and it is cringeworthy to see. No wonder so many do poorly on those type of diets."

While many gave up the high fruit diet for one reason or another, there are many who are doing good on it as the internet shows. Where are the many people who are doing great on the diet of The Sproutarian Man? Where are they? And don't say that you don't want to make "effort trying to change their(people's) minds on anything". You're only saying that now because you and your diet have been rejected by the people.


TSM says he is very enlightened. TSM says the high fruit diet is the most superior diet for people like him. TSM also says the high fruit diet is the least health building food and it is a low level vegan diet. Is TSM confused? Is he suffering from bi-polar disorder? Is he suffering from copper toxicity from his 1kg sunflower seeds? Cognitive dissonance? Who knows? TSM regularly contradicts himself, sometimes in the same paragraph. But it's all fine because TSM is a very enlightened being and beings like him speak like that he says.



TSM (on lsd?)-"You want me to bring up the science of fruits being victims of post harvest systems? Want me to knock you socks off? Want me to scare you with brutal science Lois? Want me to be Brian Clement on steroids? I can do it Lois, l can do it! Get me started and l will make Brian Clement look like child's play, you bet your sweets boots l will."

I have a cooked food diet that's mostly plant based but includes a little meat and a fair amount of fish that has so much science behind it that your "brutal science" will put its tail between its legs and slink away. Yet many people will get sick from eating it. So screw science. You and jtprindl believe science belongs exclusively to you. You are lucky that I don't have the time to commit to refute some of the crap you both say.


TSM say-"Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian.". "l LOVED that diet more than anything l have ever done."

One wonders what's stopping him. Is he bi-polar moving from one extreme to the other?



TSM-" I say...with ordinary people....give them a beer, a sports game, a t.v set and let them such(sic) on their thumbs until they are ready to do something different"

Here I was thinking I was enlightened because I eat a high fruit diet and swami guruji TSM said a HF diet was superior. Now I realize that I am ordinary because I love a good sports game and I like tv and I like beers. Oh well, the feeling was good while it lasted.


And lastly, congrats to Gosia for starting a mega divisive thread "Is fruit meant for man?" as if that question could ever be answered definitively on this forum.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2015 02:31AM by Anon 102.

awesome.

anonymous has spoken

i especially like how some people challenge others to put up their spectra test even though

- the test appears to be bogus
- they don't put up their own test results
- DR on his crazy diet had good blood test results
- they say that if you have good results that you "must be eating something else"
(built in excuse)

not being willing to be swayed by data and reality and putting too much stock in the RDA's and usda nutrient tables is an untenable position. why hold a position if there's nothing that can change your mind about it?

i have changed my mind about thinking that certain things can't target cancer cells. i was wrong. the fact that the studies don't match the reality of the ingestion of the substance is still a problem however.

Anon 102 Wrote:
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> I have a cooked food diet that's mostly plant
> based but includes a little meat and a fair amount
> of fish that has so much science behind it that
> your "brutal science" will put its tail between
> its legs and slink away.


Just the sort of eater that yet another self proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob, "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not deserve to live on this earth.

Anon, haven't you got other things that you could be doing so you are using your time more wisely. I am somewhat disappointed in you Anon, l suspect you can do better than this recent effort....you are talking like a member of the public, but l do feel you are capable of elevating your speech to higher levels if you allow yourself to. In other words, l want you to try harder to raise you level beyond that of common public speech.

Anon102, remember what l said about member's of the public talking too much...the folks who watch sport and drink beer and make opinions known in public. Hmmm. Anon, l think you might have talked too much.

Regards Anon102

The Sproutarian.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2015 03:04AM by The Sproutarian Man.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Anon 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > I have a cooked food diet that's mostly plant
> > based but includes a little meat and a fair
> amount
> > of fish that has so much science behind it that
> > your "brutal science" will put its tail between
> > its legs and slink away.
>
>
> Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> deserve to live on this earth.




I don't eat a diet like that, if that's what you're thinking. I was making a certain point which I don't feel like clarifying for you.

Anon 102 Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anon 102 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> >
> > > I have a cooked food diet that's mostly plant
> > > based but includes a little meat and a fair
> > amount
> > > of fish that has so much science behind it
> that
> > > your "brutal science" will put its tail
> between
> > > its legs and slink away.
> >
> >
> > Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> > proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> > "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> > deserve to live on this earth.
>
>
>
>
> I don't eat a diet like that, if that's what
> you're thinking. I was making a certain point
> which I don't feel like clarifying for you.

I understood you were not saying you ate like that and the point you were trying to make.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Anon 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
>
> > I have a cooked food diet that's mostly plant
> > based but includes a little meat and a fair
> amount
> > of fish that has so much science behind it that
> > your "brutal science" will put its tail between
> > its legs and slink away.
>
>
> Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> deserve to live on this earth.


And did you notice that the next day that Free changed the title of that video? The really strict vegans are a scary bunch to me, I admit, either physically degenerating like Viktoras who waxes on about youthing and regeneration and can't regenerate his own eyesight (physical disconnect), or mentally spewing out hateful comments towards their fellow humans like ISIS, and wanting to practically kill them because they're practicing the "wrong religion".

For myself, I eat a high raw diet, and try and eat a lot of WILD foods and I endeavor to get more and more of my food from the WILD cooked or raw. I do eat some fish and seafood because of what I have seen and experienced and my deep connection with the WILD after being vegan/veg for well over 25 years. Anon, I'll take a good glass of Zinfandel over a shot of wheatgrass anyday.

The American Indians and their philosophy, respect and outlook on Life is far beyond most city dwelling vegans by magnitudes. Two steps forward, three steps back...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2015 04:29AM by NuNativs.

SueZ Wrote:
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> Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> deserve to live on this earth.

This high fruit psycho is also now saying people should be forced to be vegans. Maybe she's just trying to top rose's "post tipping point" era insane notion that those low on biophotons (meat eaters) will be institutionalized for the good of the planet. If so - she wins. So far...

>This high fruit psycho is also now saying people should be forced to be vegans.

where?


(i don't hold the belief above, but..)

do you think that people should be "forced" to not kill other humans?
are people currently "forced"/prevented/punished to not kill other humans through various means?

what do people think of 'Speciesism'



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2015 04:58AM by fresh.

>This high fruit psycho is also now saying people should be forced to be vegans.

>where?


nevermind, i see the video.

some people take on the pain of the animals and get overwhelmed by it.

i understand the sentiment.

Note to myself = explain why a sprouted food diet allows for high flexibility in order to customise vegan diets at the highest level because it can be integrated in numerous ways with other vegan diets and offer both protective functions, balancing functions and body building functions in ways no other diet is able to. Talk about flexible diets that are practical for most people,ie, 50% fruit 50% sprouts,50% fat 50% sprouts etc. Mention how not everyone needs to eat all sprouts, and how eating sprouts is perfect because of the abilty to customise a diet like no other with full strategic effects employed to maximum levels. Explain it good and knock their socks off about the brilliance of including a decent percentage of sprouts in the diet.

Note to myself 2 = don't forget to talk about this because it is very very important.

www.thesproutarian.com

SueZ Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> > proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> > "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> > deserve to live on this earth.
>
> This high fruit psycho is also now saying people
> should be forced to be vegans.


if you have 3 "pets", a dog, a cat and a bird, and you also live with your sister.... and someone comes over on monday
and eats your dog and it's not illegal, what do you do?
when they come over on tuesday and eat your cat what do you do?
when they tell you they will be back on wed, what do you do?
then they come back and eat your sister, what do you do?
what do you expect them to eat? they need their protein!
should they go eat your neighbor? would that be ok with you?

so you're the psycho now....unless you are just selfish and you don't want them to eat "your" pets and "your" sister, and you're ok with them eating your neighbor.

SueZ Wrote:
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> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Just the sort of eater that yet another self
> > proclaimed high fruit vegan guru nutjob,
> > "freeleethebananagirl", is now saying do not
> > deserve to live on this earth.
>
> This high fruit psycho is also now saying people
> should be forced to be vegans. Maybe she's just
> trying to top rose's "post tipping point" era
> insane notion that those low on biophotons (meat
> eaters) will be institutionalized for the good of
> the planet. If so - she wins. So far...

She's now claiming that, yes, she and vegans, are superior to nonvegans. Probably senses her 15 minutes is almost up so may as well give fame one last shot by starting a diet war or stirring up her fruit fly posse cult into enraged actions on her behalf to show their loyalty.

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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>
> Lots of humans eat meat, yet a vegan can't even
> digest a sprouted seed. Not good! These are the
> issues l am seeing everywhere, we vegans think
> this is normal. There is a big disconnect here
> going on.
>
> I used to have trouble digesting sprouted seeds,
> but l fixed it by probiotics. Other people have
> reported the same thing. It is my opinion that our
> good bacteria levels in the mouth, stomach,
> intestines and other places are not in the
> quantity they should be in this day and age. I
> never could digest sprouted legumes either, but
> after going on a 100% raw fermented highly acidic
> diet for 4 months straight l brought my digestion
> to levels never seen in my entire life. For 4
> months straight every foods l ate was heavily
> fermented and highly acidic....no alkaline foods
> at all and l felt the best in my entire life. I
> had fermented algae, fermented green juices,
> fermented seaweeds, fermented water, fermented
> sprouted seeds/nuts, fermented sprouted legumes
> and grains etc. Kulvinskas and his friend both
> told me they had never heard anything like it and
> they classified it as an extreme diet....l was
> shocked, but l guess it was extreme, but l LOVED
> that diet more than anything l have ever done.
>
> Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian.
> They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make me
> sick and siffer brain issues, but l had plenty of
> tricks l was doing to make it safe and reduce
> aldehydes. Never felt acidic or toxic, l felt
> amazing!!!

The question is why do we continue to have trouble digesting foods after many years of raw and living foods?

Is fermentation the only way to solving this problem?

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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>
> Lots of humans eat meat, yet a vegan can't even
> digest a sprouted seed. Not good! These are the
> issues l am seeing everywhere, we vegans think
> this is normal. There is a big disconnect here
> going on.
>
> I used to have trouble digesting sprouted seeds,
> but l fixed it by probiotics. Other people have
> reported the same thing. It is my opinion that our
> good bacteria levels in the mouth, stomach,
> intestines and other places are not in the
> quantity they should be in this day and age. I
> never could digest sprouted legumes either, but
> after going on a 100% raw fermented highly acidic
> diet for 4 months straight l brought my digestion
> to levels never seen in my entire life. For 4
> months straight every foods l ate was heavily
> fermented and highly acidic....no alkaline foods
> at all and l felt the best in my entire life. I
> had fermented algae, fermented green juices,
> fermented seaweeds, fermented water, fermented
> sprouted seeds/nuts, fermented sprouted legumes
> and grains etc. Kulvinskas and his friend both
> told me they had never heard anything like it and
> they classified it as an extreme diet....l was
> shocked, but l guess it was extreme, but l LOVED
> that diet more than anything l have ever done.
>
> Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian.
> They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make me
> sick and siffer brain issues, but l had plenty of
> tricks l was doing to make it safe and reduce
> aldehydes. Never felt acidic or toxic, l felt
> amazing!!!

The question is why do we continue to have trouble digesting foods after many years on raw and living foods?

Is fermentation the only way to solving this problem?

The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
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>
> Lots of humans eat meat, yet a vegan can't even
> digest a sprouted seed. Not good! These are the
> issues l am seeing everywhere, we vegans think
> this is normal. There is a big disconnect here
> going on.
>
> I used to have trouble digesting sprouted seeds,
> but l fixed it by probiotics. Other people have
> reported the same thing. It is my opinion that our
> good bacteria levels in the mouth, stomach,
> intestines and other places are not in the
> quantity they should be in this day and age. I
> never could digest sprouted legumes either, but
> after going on a 100% raw fermented highly acidic
> diet for 4 months straight l brought my digestion
> to levels never seen in my entire life. For 4
> months straight every foods l ate was heavily
> fermented and highly acidic....no alkaline foods
> at all and l felt the best in my entire life. I
> had fermented algae, fermented green juices,
> fermented seaweeds, fermented water, fermented
> sprouted seeds/nuts, fermented sprouted legumes
> and grains etc. Kulvinskas and his friend both
> told me they had never heard anything like it and
> they classified it as an extreme diet....l was
> shocked, but l guess it was extreme, but l LOVED
> that diet more than anything l have ever done.
>
> Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian sproutarian.
> They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make me
> sick and siffer brain issues, but l had plenty of
> tricks l was doing to make it safe and reduce
> aldehydes. Never felt acidic or toxic, l felt
> amazing!!!

The question is why do we continue to have trouble digesting foods after many years on raw and living foods?

Is fermentation the only way to solving this problem?

"You are lucky that I don't have the time to commit to refute some of the crap you both say."

Lol another member of the "fruit gang" that cannot stop mentioning my name even when I'm not around. Thank you guys for letting me live inside your head rent-free. When are you going to stop being an anonymous coward and admit who you are and stop using two accounts?

As far as refuting what I say, good luck with that. Your knowledge doesn't extend much beyond following John Rose and fresh around making elementary school comments. I wonder why, Mr. "Anonymous".

RawPracticalist Wrote:
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> The Sproutarian Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Lots of humans eat meat, yet a vegan can't even
> > digest a sprouted seed. Not good! These are the
> > issues l am seeing everywhere, we vegans think
> > this is normal. There is a big disconnect here
> > going on.
> >
> > I used to have trouble digesting sprouted
> seeds,
> > but l fixed it by probiotics. Other people have
> > reported the same thing. It is my opinion that
> our
> > good bacteria levels in the mouth, stomach,
> > intestines and other places are not in the
> > quantity they should be in this day and age. I
> > never could digest sprouted legumes either, but
> > after going on a 100% raw fermented highly
> acidic
> > diet for 4 months straight l brought my
> digestion
> > to levels never seen in my entire life. For 4
> > months straight every foods l ate was heavily
> > fermented and highly acidic....no alkaline
> foods
> > at all and l felt the best in my entire life. I
> > had fermented algae, fermented green juices,
> > fermented seaweeds, fermented water, fermented
> > sprouted seeds/nuts, fermented sprouted legumes
> > and grains etc. Kulvinskas and his friend both
> > told me they had never heard anything like it
> and
> > they classified it as an extreme diet....l was
> > shocked, but l guess it was extreme, but l
> LOVED
> > that diet more than anything l have ever done.
> >
> > Wish l still was a 100% fermentarian
> sproutarian.
> > They wondered why the extreme diet didn't make
> me
> > sick and siffer brain issues, but l had plenty
> of
> > tricks l was doing to make it safe and reduce
> > aldehydes. Never felt acidic or toxic, l felt
> > amazing!!!
>
> The question is why do we continue to have trouble
> digesting foods after many years on raw and living
> foods?
>
> Is fermentation the only way to solving this
> problem?


I've only been 100% raw for two and a half years (and 90%+ raw vegan for six months before that), which is far less than many others and I do not have any digestion problems. Not sure why but maybe because I went raw at a younger age? I also went through a brief period where I was consuming massive amounts of probiotics, so that could definitely play a factor. Plus I use chlorella.

>When are you going to stop being an anonymous coward and admit who you are and stop using two accounts?

right, because "jtprindl" is not anonymous. ok.

"right, because "jtprindl" is not anonymous. ok."


1.) Not really as it includes my last name, therefore I can be identified in person.

2.) Anon 102 created his account shortly after powerlifter made an "anon" account, so clearly this "anonymous" person already had an account. Actually he went from "anon101" to "Anon 102" because Prana banned his first fake ID. But the coward is hiding behind a hidden IP address so his "anonymous" account isn't connected to his other account. This way he can act all high and mighty on his main account and reveal his true personality on an "anonymous" account.

jtprindl Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "right, because "jtprindl" is not anonymous. ok."
>
>
> 1.) Not really as it includes my last name,
> therefore I can be identified in person.
>

not unless you post a picture.
it's the same as being anon.
not that i care.

> 2.) Anon 102 created his account shortly after
> powerlifter made an "anon" account, so clearly
> this "anonymous" person already had an account.
> Actually he went from "anon101" to "Anon 102"
> because Prana banned his first fake ID. But the
> coward is hiding behind a hidden IP address so his
> "anonymous" account isn't connected to his other
> account. This way he can act all high and mighty
> on his main account and reveal his true
> personality on an "anonymous" account.


whatever.
it's the message that's important, unless you want to avoid that and focus on some supersleuthing that means nothing.
and the message is humorous - gets me through another day of sprouting