fresh wrote:
"show your own skin or shut yer yap."

Exactly. Leave John the @#$%& alone. Until you are willing to put yourself out there I think your insults need to stop...

NuNativs Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fresh wrote:
> "show your own skin or shut yer yap."
>
> Exactly. Leave John the @#$%& alone. Until you are
> willing to put yourself out there I think your
> insults need to stop...


What's the matter with you two children who seem to be pretending to be totally missing the point?

Those who are telling others the sun does not cause UV skin damage YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies should be held accountable so people who listen to their lies don't get hurt.

>Those who are telling others the sun does not cause UV skin damage


show everyone where JR said
that "the sun does not cause UV skin damage"


> YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies should be held accountable so people who listen to their lies don't get hurt.

not obvious to me

fresh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> >Those who are telling others the sun does not
> cause UV skin damage



> show everyone where JR said
> that "the sun does not cause UV skin damage"


Check out their rebuttals to arugula's advise on the forums, (and while you're at it check out their take's on sunning the skin), if your memory is that poor and you have a true interest. I'm not your mother - do your own homework.


> > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies should
> be held accountable so people who listen to their
> lies don't get hurt.



> not obvious to me


I've told you a few of the videos that were taken close up and without the "right" lighting available to bleach out the tell tale highly detailed evidence but I can't make you attend properly to evidence like that if you don't want to see.

Other than that some people just are not visual learners - just can't do it for some reason. I can't help you with that problem other than to suggest again that you have your eyes checked, get a good computer screen, and try harder to focus on the task of seeing.

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fresh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >Those who are telling others the sun does not
> > cause UV skin damage
>
>
>
> > show everyone where JR said
> > that "the sun does not cause UV skin damage"
>
>
> Check out their rebuttals to arugula's advise on
> the forums, (and while you're at it check out
> their take's on sunning the skin), if your memory
> is that poor and you have a true interest. I'm not
> your mother - do your own homework.
>

your response to someone(me) asking you to support your statements is B.S. again.

not being my mother has nothing to do with anything.
that was your same lame response when i asked you last time to support your statement, because you could not support your statement.

I do not want to check our their rebuttals.
I have already searched the forum and what i found out is that JR believes that the sun is good for the body and that exposing the body to the sun is a good thing , and info regarding clothing, etc.

I did not find anywhere that JR said "the sun does not cause UV damage" which is YOUR ACCUSATION. if you can show a contradiction with JR, then do so and it can be discussed, or if you can have JR clearly say what you claim he has said, then have at it.

Until then do NOT reprimand me and say that you are not my mother, while acting like my mother.

SHOW where he said what you are accusing him of and we are all ears.



>
> > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies
> should
> > be held accountable so people who listen to
> their
> > lies don't get hurt.
>
>
>
> > not obvious to me
>
>
> I've told you a few of the videos that were
> taken close up and without the "right" lighting
> available to bleach out the tell tale highly
> detailed evidence but I can't make you attend
> properly to evidence like that if you don't want
> to see.
>
> Other than that some people just are not visual
> learners - just can't do it for some reason. I
> can't help you with that problem other than to
> suggest again that you have your eyes checked, get
> a good computer screen, and try harder to focus on
> the task of seeing.

If I were you I would focus harder on not being condescending.

If I were you I would focus on life affirming goals instead of pointless criticism.

I have already provided you with information regarding liver spots.
You are conflating "damage" with cancer or some other negative outcome.
If you want to call dark spots caused by the sun that may not be indicative of any negative health outcome "damage" you can do that. To what end, I do not know.

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fresh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >Those who are telling others the sun does not
> > cause UV skin damage
>
>
>
> > show everyone where JR said
> > that "the sun does not cause UV skin damage"
>
>
> Check out their rebuttals to arugula's advise on
> the forums, (and while you're at it check out
> their take's on sunning the skin), if your memory
> is that poor and you have a true interest. I'm not
> your mother - do your own homework.
>
>
> > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies
> should
> > be held accountable so people who listen to
> their
> > lies don't get hurt.
>
>
>
> > not obvious to me
>
>
> I've told you a few of the videos that were
> taken close up and without the "right" lighting
> available to bleach out the tell tale highly
> detailed evidence but I can't make you attend
> properly to evidence like that if you don't want
> to see.
>
> Other than that some people just are not visual
> learners - just can't do it for some reason. I
> can't help you with that problem other than to
> suggest again that you have your eyes checked, get
> a good computer screen, and try harder to focus on
> the task of seeing.

Fresh, I don't care that you have no interest in looking for, recognizing, or informing people on erroneous careless advise posted here about sun bathing by people with obvious sun damaged skin - I was just answering for other, less lazy and dogmatic readers who may not have read the older posted stuff I'm talking about.

I also am not interested that you think such things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by not following self proclaimed pedestrian level health coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade older than their age, should go without comment.

But most especially I have no interest in your unsolicited advice to me on any subject that I can think of. In fact I will skip even reading your posts from now on. You are now dead to me.

Hmmmm, I know another person on this forum who uses that exact same phrase.

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fresh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > >Those who are telling others the sun does
> not
> > > cause UV skin damage
> >
> >
> >
> > > show everyone where JR said
> > > that "the sun does not cause UV skin damage"
> >
> >
> > Check out their rebuttals to arugula's advise
> on
> > the forums, (and while you're at it check out
> > their take's on sunning the skin), if your
> memory
> > is that poor and you have a true interest. I'm
> not
> > your mother - do your own homework.
> >
> >
> > > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies
> > should
> > > be held accountable so people who listen to
> > their
> > > lies don't get hurt.
> >
> >
> >
> > > not obvious to me
> >
> >
> > I've told you a few of the videos that were
> > taken close up and without the "right" lighting
> > available to bleach out the tell tale highly
> > detailed evidence but I can't make you attend
> > properly to evidence like that if you don't
> want
> > to see.
> >
> > Other than that some people just are not visual
> > learners - just can't do it for some reason. I
> > can't help you with that problem other than to
> > suggest again that you have your eyes checked,
> get
> > a good computer screen, and try harder to focus
> on
> > the task of seeing.
>
> Fresh, I don't care that you have no interest in
> looking for, recognizing, or informing people on
> erroneous careless advise posted here about sun
> bathing by people with obvious sun damaged skin -
> I was just answering for other, less lazy and
> dogmatic readers who may not have read the older
> posted stuff I'm talking about.
>
> I also am not interested that you think such
> things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by not
> following self proclaimed pedestrian level health
> coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade older
> than their age, should go without comment.
>
> But most especially I have no interest in your
> unsolicited advice to me on any subject that I can
> think of. In fact I will skip even reading your
> posts from now on. You are now dead to me.

HH Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hmmmm, I know another person on this forum who
> uses that exact same phrase.
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > fresh Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > >Those who are telling others the sun does
> > not
> > > > cause UV skin damage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > show everyone where JR said
> > > > that "the sun does not cause UV skin
> damage"
> > >
> > >
> > > Check out their rebuttals to arugula's advise
> > on
> > > the forums, (and while you're at it check out
> > > their take's on sunning the skin), if your
> > memory
> > > is that poor and you have a true interest.
> I'm
> > not
> > > your mother - do your own homework.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > > > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these lies
> > > should
> > > > be held accountable so people who listen to
> > > their
> > > > lies don't get hurt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > not obvious to me
> > >
> > >
> > > I've told you a few of the videos that were
> > > taken close up and without the "right"
> lighting
> > > available to bleach out the tell tale highly
> > > detailed evidence but I can't make you attend
> > > properly to evidence like that if you don't
> > want
> > > to see.
> > >
> > > Other than that some people just are not
> visual
> > > learners - just can't do it for some reason.
> I
> > > can't help you with that problem other than
> to
> > > suggest again that you have your eyes
> checked,
> > get
> > > a good computer screen, and try harder to
> focus
> > on
> > > the task of seeing.
> >
> > Fresh, I don't care that you have no interest
> in
> > looking for, recognizing, or informing people
> on
> > erroneous careless advise posted here about sun
> > bathing by people with obvious sun damaged skin
> -
> > I was just answering for other, less lazy and
> > dogmatic readers who may not have read the
> older
> > posted stuff I'm talking about.
> >
> > I also am not interested that you think such
> > things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by not
> > following self proclaimed pedestrian level
> health
> > coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade
> older
> > than their age, should go without comment.
> >
> > But most especially I have no interest in your
> > unsolicited advice to me on any subject that I
> can
> > think of. In fact I will skip even reading your
> > posts from now on. You are now dead to me.

Lol. It's actually a common phrase these days. I think it started with one of the guys on the Shark Tank tv show using it when he would offer his final business deal to inventors and told them if they didn't accept his last offer that that was it - he was not interested in any counter offers.

I've had it with fresh and those of his ilk.

The simple reason why suez has NO EVIDENCE is because I have NEVER said anything that even resembles what she claims I said!!!

This is what I said...

"By the way, I used to play competitive tennis for ~10 years and I started at 28 and I got HUGE amounts of Sunshine without protection - no shirt and no poisons on my skin, except for two spots on my face - the tip of my nose and the sides of my face. I have continued to get HUGE amounts of Sunshine as I love to go for long bike rides and walks with my dog to offset the majority of my day in front of this computer, except now I don't put anything on my face."

What's interesting is that the only damage I have is where I put sunscreen on the sides of my face!!!

Defense Against the Psychopath (Full length Version)
37:37 Minute Video
[www.youtube.com]

These then are the basic Characteristics that Psychopaths exhibit.

1) Lack of Empathy
2) Lack of Remorse
3) Superficiality
4) Grandiosity
5) Irresponsibility
6) Impulsive Behavior
7) Compulsive Lying
8) Manipulative
9) Anti-Social Behavior

Everyone knows that suez has a Lack of Empathy!!!

Everyone knows that suez has a Lack of Remorse!!!

Everyone knows that suez is Superficial!!!

Everyone knows that suez has Anti-Social Behavior!!!

And now, everyone knows that suez is a Compulsive Liar!!!

So tell us suez, why are you a Compulsive Liar?

Were you born this way or are you a Secondary Psychopath?

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> HH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hmmmm, I know another person on this forum who
> > uses that exact same phrase.
> >
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SueZ Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > fresh Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > >Those who are telling others the sun
> does
> > > not
> > > > > cause UV skin damage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > show everyone where JR said
> > > > > that "the sun does not cause UV skin
> > damage"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check out their rebuttals to arugula's
> advise
> > > on
> > > > the forums, (and while you're at it check
> out
> > > > their take's on sunning the skin), if your
> > > memory
> > > > is that poor and you have a true interest.
> > I'm
> > > not
> > > > your mother - do your own homework.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > > > > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these
> lies
> > > > should
> > > > > be held accountable so people who listen
> to
> > > > their
> > > > > lies don't get hurt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > not obvious to me
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've told you a few of the videos that
> were
> > > > taken close up and without the "right"
> > lighting
> > > > available to bleach out the tell tale
> highly
> > > > detailed evidence but I can't make you
> attend
> > > > properly to evidence like that if you don't
> > > want
> > > > to see.
> > > >
> > > > Other than that some people just are not
> > visual
> > > > learners - just can't do it for some
> reason.
> > I
> > > > can't help you with that problem other than
> > to
> > > > suggest again that you have your eyes
> > checked,
> > > get
> > > > a good computer screen, and try harder to
> > focus
> > > on
> > > > the task of seeing.
> > >
> > > Fresh, I don't care that you have no interest
> > in
> > > looking for, recognizing, or informing people
> > on
> > > erroneous careless advise posted here about
> sun
> > > bathing by people with obvious sun damaged
> skin
> > -
> > > I was just answering for other, less lazy and
> > > dogmatic readers who may not have read the
> > older
> > > posted stuff I'm talking about.
> > >
> > > I also am not interested that you think such
> > > things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by
> not
> > > following self proclaimed pedestrian level
> > health
> > > coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade
> > older
> > > than their age, should go without comment.
> > >
> > > But most especially I have no interest in
> your
> > > unsolicited advice to me on any subject that
> I
> > can
> > > think of. In fact I will skip even reading
> your
> > > posts from now on. You are now dead to me.
>
> Lol. It's actually a common phrase these days. I
> think it started with one of the guys on the Shark
> Tank tv show using it when he would offer his
> final business deal to inventors and told them if
> they didn't accept his last offer that that was it
> - he was not interested in any counter offers.
>
> I've had it with fresh and those of his ilk.

**Edited to add I see these clowns are climbing out of their clown car all over the forum now. Ha ha ha, they can chase their own tails forever. I'm done with their lies just are you are probably done with the lies about what actually is a 100% raw diet. Be glad that your thoughts on that haven't picked you up any fruit fly posse "fans" yet on that front.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2015 04:55PM by SueZ.

Defense Against the Psychopath (Full length Version)
37:37 Minute Video
[www.youtube.com]

These then are the basic Characteristics that Psychopaths exhibit.

1) Lack of Empathy
2) Lack of Remorse
3) Superficiality
4) Grandiosity
5) Irresponsibility
6) Impulsive Behavior
7) Compulsive Lying
8) Manipulative
9) Anti-Social Behavior

Everyone knows that suez has a Lack of Empathy!!!

Everyone knows that suez has a Lack of Remorse!!!

Everyone knows that suez is Superficial!!!

Everyone knows that suez has Anti-Social Behavior!!!

And now, everyone knows that suez is a Compulsive Liar!!!

So tell us suez, why are you a Compulsive Liar?

Were you born this way or are you a Secondary Psychopath?





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2015 05:08PM by John Rose.

Suez is a primary, secondary and a tertiary level psychopath. She's got all levels fully covered.

I don't know. I've believed for a while that there's someone on this board with a proxy and a mean case of dissociative identity disorder.

SueZ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> HH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hmmmm, I know another person on this forum who
> > uses that exact same phrase.
> >
> > SueZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SueZ Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > fresh Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > >Those who are telling others the sun
> does
> > > not
> > > > > cause UV skin damage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > show everyone where JR said
> > > > > that "the sun does not cause UV skin
> > damage"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check out their rebuttals to arugula's
> advise
> > > on
> > > > the forums, (and while you're at it check
> out
> > > > their take's on sunning the skin), if your
> > > memory
> > > > is that poor and you have a true interest.
> > I'm
> > > not
> > > > your mother - do your own homework.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN DAMAGE
> > > > > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these
> lies
> > > > should
> > > > > be held accountable so people who listen
> to
> > > > their
> > > > > lies don't get hurt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > not obvious to me
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've told you a few of the videos that
> were
> > > > taken close up and without the "right"
> > lighting
> > > > available to bleach out the tell tale
> highly
> > > > detailed evidence but I can't make you
> attend
> > > > properly to evidence like that if you don't
> > > want
> > > > to see.
> > > >
> > > > Other than that some people just are not
> > visual
> > > > learners - just can't do it for some
> reason.
> > I
> > > > can't help you with that problem other than
> > to
> > > > suggest again that you have your eyes
> > checked,
> > > get
> > > > a good computer screen, and try harder to
> > focus
> > > on
> > > > the task of seeing.
> > >
> > > Fresh, I don't care that you have no interest
> > in
> > > looking for, recognizing, or informing people
> > on
> > > erroneous careless advise posted here about
> sun
> > > bathing by people with obvious sun damaged
> skin
> > -
> > > I was just answering for other, less lazy and
> > > dogmatic readers who may not have read the
> > older
> > > posted stuff I'm talking about.
> > >
> > > I also am not interested that you think such
> > > things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by
> not
> > > following self proclaimed pedestrian level
> > health
> > > coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade
> > older
> > > than their age, should go without comment.
> > >
> > > But most especially I have no interest in
> your
> > > unsolicited advice to me on any subject that
> I
> > can
> > > think of. In fact I will skip even reading
> your
> > > posts from now on. You are now dead to me.
>
> Lol. It's actually a common phrase these days. I
> think it started with one of the guys on the Shark
> Tank tv show using it when he would offer his
> final business deal to inventors and told them if
> they didn't accept his last offer that that was it
> - he was not interested in any counter offers.
>
> I've had it with fresh and those of his ilk.

HH Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know. I've believed for a while that
> there's someone on this board with a proxy and a
> mean case of dissociative identity disorder.
>
> SueZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HH Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hmmmm, I know another person on this forum
> who
> > > uses that exact same phrase.
> > >
> > > SueZ Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > SueZ Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > fresh Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > >Those who are telling others the sun
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > > cause UV skin damage
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > show everyone where JR said
> > > > > > that "the sun does not cause UV skin
> > > damage"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out their rebuttals to arugula's
> > advise
> > > > on
> > > > > the forums, (and while you're at it check
> > out
> > > > > their take's on sunning the skin), if
> your
> > > > memory
> > > > > is that poor and you have a true
> interest.
> > > I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > your mother - do your own homework.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > YET HAVE PLENTY OF OBVIOUS SKIN
> DAMAGE
> > > > > > THEMSELVES and who are spreading these
> > lies
> > > > > should
> > > > > > be held accountable so people who
> listen
> > to
> > > > > their
> > > > > > lies don't get hurt.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > not obvious to me
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've told you a few of the videos that
> > were
> > > > > taken close up and without the "right"
> > > lighting
> > > > > available to bleach out the tell tale
> > highly
> > > > > detailed evidence but I can't make you
> > attend
> > > > > properly to evidence like that if you
> don't
> > > > want
> > > > > to see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than that some people just are not
> > > visual
> > > > > learners - just can't do it for some
> > reason.
> > > I
> > > > > can't help you with that problem other
> than
> > > to
> > > > > suggest again that you have your eyes
> > > checked,
> > > > get
> > > > > a good computer screen, and try harder to
> > > focus
> > > > on
> > > > > the task of seeing.
> > > >
> > > > Fresh, I don't care that you have no
> interest
> > > in
> > > > looking for, recognizing, or informing
> people
> > > on
> > > > erroneous careless advise posted here about
> > sun
> > > > bathing by people with obvious sun damaged
> > skin
> > > -
> > > > I was just answering for other, less lazy
> and
> > > > dogmatic readers who may not have read the
> > > older
> > > > posted stuff I'm talking about.
> > > >
> > > > I also am not interested that you think
> such
> > > > things as avoiding prematurely aged skin by
> > not
> > > > following self proclaimed pedestrian level
> > > health
> > > > coaches, who's skin looks at least a decade
> > > older
> > > > than their age, should go without comment.
>
> > > >
> > > > But most especially I have no interest in
> > your
> > > > unsolicited advice to me on any subject
> that
> > I
> > > can
> > > > think of. In fact I will skip even reading
> > your
> > > > posts from now on. You are now dead to me.
> >
> > Lol. It's actually a common phrase these days.
> I
> > think it started with one of the guys on the
> Shark
> > Tank tv show using it when he would offer his
> > final business deal to inventors and told them
> if
> > they didn't accept his last offer that that was
> it
> > - he was not interested in any counter offers.
> >
> > I've had it with fresh and those of his ilk.

What?! You aren't BananaWho are you?