"Weight Loss Special PART 2 : James Sloane, estrogen, fat, & what to do"

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2015 11:24AM by SueZ.

post some videos Suz Queue!

i'll be your first subscriber!

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- markus said that the olive oils that the mediteranean people eat is why they are healthy - NOT true.
- to think that we need this technical information from sloane in order to determine what to eat is laughable - maybe cooked fooders need the info.
- and finally, weight loss information from a fat guy. always amusing.

fresh Wrote:

> - and finally, weight loss information from a fat
> guy. always amusing.


Here is just a couple of example as to why this is such a useless, immature and incorrect comment


Here is boxer Juan Manuel Marquez before using a stregnth and conditioning coach







He hired this 'fat' guy, and expert on the science of nutrition who has trained some of the top athletes around the world







Here is him after, at around 40 years of age









He went on to knock out manny and handing him his first knock out lost in decades, it was the biggest win of his career. Its a good thing he didn't look at Herida and say, you're fat I won't be able to learn anything from you


The guy that trained Pacquiao during the height of his career was also over weight.





He also recently trained the one of the most fit and by far the richest athlete in the world, floyd mayweather jr



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2015 01:44AM by tezcal.

Thanks for sharing SueZ.


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Always good when James and Markus get together for a chat, and really nice to hear James sounding the low cholesterol warning that people are starting to wake up to now...lets hope raw vegans take note because some of them have very low levels of various cholesterols.

As with all things, we are all learning still and James and Markus are like the rest of us...babes in the woods feeling their way. None-the-less, they bring up lots of material that one can investigate, so great video to base further research on.

Bravo Markus and James,keep the wonderful videos coming,and if you find anymore of these, please post them Suez.

James looks like he has lost weight too. He doesn't believe in extreme diets and eats whatever he feels like.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2015 08:23AM by The Sproutarian Man.

I notice that a lot of raw foodists have a hard time understanding different perspectives and are very quick to judge. They don't consider the fact that maybe some people sacrifice their own health and well-being for others. They don't consider that flying all over the place, which many health and nutrition professionals do, has a detrimental effect on one's health (lots of radiation, reduced oxygen). Raw vegans are definitely one of the most judgmental groups of individuals I've ever come across.

Ya think!?!


jtprindl Wrote:
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> I notice that a lot of raw foodists have a hard
> time understanding different perspectives and are
> very quick to judge. They don't consider the fact
> that maybe some people sacrifice their own health
> and well-being for others. They don't consider
> that flying all over the place, which many health
> and nutrition professionals do, has a detrimental
> effect on one's health (lots of radiation, reduced
> oxygen). Raw vegans are definitely one of the most
> judgmental groups of individuals I've ever come
> across.

tezcal Wrote:
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> fresh Wrote:
>
> > - and finally, weight loss information from a
> fat
> > guy. always amusing.
>
>
> Here is just a couple of example as to why this is
> such a useless, immature and incorrect comment
>
>
> Here is boxer Juan Manuel Marquez before using a
> stregnth and conditioning coach
>
>
>
> [www3.pictures.zimbio.com]
> r+Jr+v+Juan+Manuel+Marquez+bPGM4054PeAl.jpg
>
>
>
> He hired this 'fat' guy, and expert on the science
> of nutrition who has trained some of the top
> athletes around the world
>
>
> [www.fighthype.com]
> gelheredia.jpg
>
>
>
>
> Here is him after, at around 40 years of age
>
>
> [theballsofwrath.com]
> /04/marquez-pacquiao-pelea-4.jpg
>
>
> [realcombatmedia.com]
> /09/pacquiao-marquez1.jpg
>
>
>
> He went on to knock out manny and handing him his
> first knock out lost in decades, it was the
> biggest win of his career. Its a good thing he
> didn't look at Herida and say, you're fat I won't
> be able to learn anything from you
>
>
> The guy that trained Pacquiao during the height of
> his career was also over weight.
>
>
> [www.examiner.com]
> es/pactraining-with-alex-ariza3.jpg
>
>
> He also recently trained the one of the most fit
> and by far the richest athlete in the world, floyd
> mayweather jr

sloane was talking about fats and weight loss and is fat.

those trainers are not talking to us about nutrition and their fighters are on drugs and starving near the fight. irrelevant.

I don't even see anyone who looks fat in that video.

"those trainers are not talking to us about nutrition and their fighters are on drugs and starving near the fight. irrelevant."

It's the same concept. An out of shape trainer can produce a champion fighter just like an out of shape nutritionist or doctor can produce health and vitality in a patient.

fresh Wrote:
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> tezcal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fresh Wrote:
> >
> > > - and finally, weight loss information from a
> > fat
> > > guy. always amusing.
> >
> >
> > Here is just a couple of example as to why this
> is
> > such a useless, immature and incorrect comment
> >
> >
> > Here is boxer Juan Manuel Marquez before using
> a
> > stregnth and conditioning coach
> >
> >
> >
> >
> [www3.pictures.zimbio.com]
>
> > r+Jr+v+Juan+Manuel+Marquez+bPGM4054PeAl.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > He hired this 'fat' guy, and expert on the
> science
> > of nutrition who has trained some of the top
> > athletes around the world
> >
> >
> >
> [www.fighthype.com]
>
> > gelheredia.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is him after, at around 40 years of age
> >
> >
> >
> [theballsofwrath.com]
>
> > /04/marquez-pacquiao-pelea-4.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> [realcombatmedia.com]
>
> > /09/pacquiao-marquez1.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > He went on to knock out manny and handing him
> his
> > first knock out lost in decades, it was the
> > biggest win of his career. Its a good thing he
> > didn't look at Herida and say, you're fat I
> won't
> > be able to learn anything from you
> >
> >
> > The guy that trained Pacquiao during the height
> of
> > his career was also over weight.
> >
> >
> >
> [www.examiner.com]
>
> > es/pactraining-with-alex-ariza3.jpg
> >
> >
> > He also recently trained the one of the most
> fit
> > and by far the richest athlete in the world,
> floyd
> > mayweather jr
>
> sloane was talking about fats and weight loss and
> is fat.
>
> those trainers are not talking to us about
> nutrition and their fighters are on drugs and
> starving near the fight. irrelevant.


Is it really that difficult to understand the comparison?



Please read jtprindl's post very slowly and carefully for a very simple explanation.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/28/2015 03:21AM by tezcal.

are saying that sloane is not following his own advice?

is that what you are saying? read this in slow motion, maybe underwater with a microscope if you need to.

if that is what you are saying, then why is he giving out the advice to others?

read that a few times.

you're saying he's not following his advice but i should?
or maybe the fat jiggling under his chin is a glandular problem?

i never said that a person , not following his own advice, can give advice to others that works for them.

i said it was amusing. see? nothing like a couple people here have distorted.

and this imagined "some people don't consider that people fly and it's hard"
is false.

here's an idea, don't tell me what i consider or don't consider.

I have "considered" it, and have rejected it.

of course it's harder. doesn't mean it can't be done, or should be used as an excuse.

fresh wrote:

<<<and finally, weight loss information from a fat guy. always amusing.>>>

tezcal wrote:

<<<Here is just a couple of example as to why this is such a useless, immature and incorrect comment>>>

fresh wrote:

<<<i never said that a person , not following his own advice, can give advice to others that works for them.

i said it was amusing. see? nothing like a couple people here have distorted.>>>

Hey tezcal,

It's really easy to read something and not quite catch the point and I'm sure that if you two were having this conversation in person, this confusion would not exist.

As a Weight Loss Specialist, I too find "weight loss information from a fat guy" humorous. As fresh pointed out, that does not mean they don't know how, but whenever any so-called Weight Loss Specialist starts talking about losing weight and they ONLY focus on FAT, they are CLUELESS about Weight Loss!

As I point out in my 93 Minute Instructional Video that I produced in 1999 - The Ultimate Weight Loss Program, there is Another Component of Weight that is far more dangerous than Fat and when you do what it takes to get rid of this FILTH, excess Fat also disappears along with almost all of our other Illnesses and Ill-Behaviors that might even be contributing to their excess Fat!!!

Are our standards of what is overweight and what is not so disparate that I actually see a normal sized person where others see a fat person? Am I watching the wrong video? Weird.

HH Wrote:
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> Are our standards of what is overweight and what
> is not so disparate that I actually see a normal
> sized person where others see a fat person? Am I
> watching the wrong video? Weird.


Good call, I hadn't watched the video but neither of those guys are overweight or fat. Perhaps some people think "fit" is looking like you just walked out of a concentration camp.

not obese. overfat from looking at the face, indicates that it's likely that he has unnecessary excess fat due to cooked food intake. by the way, he dismisses the raw diet and the logic and validity of it.

not possible to be sure without full body photo which is not available.

certainly many people pontificate about health and there is much information that is valid. my point is that if we need a video from js with technical information before we determine what to eat, then we are in big trouble.

not being judgmental in a negative sense, simply an observation that impacts the veracity of the advice imo like taking piano lessons from someone who doesn't know how to play the piano very well.

i think it wiser to take weight loss advice from those who are lean and healthy looking.

others may not be concerned about that.

>Perhaps some people think "fit" is looking like you just walked out of a concentration camp.

yes perhaps you could share these unnamed people with us.

yet another in the long line of absurd fantasy statements based on nothing.

fresh, do you mind me asking how old you are?

<<<not obese. overfat from looking at the face>>>

Exactly! One of the first places I look at is the jowls and if the jowls don't look good, the rest of the body usually doesn't look that good either. However, we lose weight from the head down, so sometimes the jowls can start looking good in the beginning of a weight loss program, but there's still a ways to go.

SueZ Wrote:
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> "Weight Loss Special PART 2 : James Sloane,
> estrogen, fat, & what to do"
>
> [www.youtube.com]


Here is another great interview in which Marcus interviews James Sloane on herbs.

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The guy has a weak chin. He's not jowly. Is he in peak peak physical condition? I doubt it, but he is middle-aged.

John Rose Wrote:
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>
> Exactly! One of the first places I look at is the
> jowls and if the jowls don't look good, the rest
> of the body usually doesn't look that good either.
> However, we lose weight from the head down, so
> sometimes the jowls can start looking good in the
> beginning of a weight loss program, but there's
> still a ways to go.
>
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<<<He's not jowly.>>>

It's the thickness of his jowl!

<<<Here is another great interview in which Marcus interviews James Sloane on herbs.>>>

James is NO different than most other conventional doctors who turn alternative and go from prescribing Drugs to prescribing Herbs.

In other words, James does NOT understand what I have explained dozens of times on this website as the Science of Healing and only applies what I have called the Art of Healing.

The problem with people like James is the same problem with people like jt and TSM as you guys do NOT understand the Cause of Disease and as long as you do NOT understand the Cause, you will continue to focus too much on the Art where we put too much emphasis on other Protocols, like Herbs, and too much emphasis on certain Nutrients that can help certain Disease Conditions.

Once we understand the Cause and Remove the Cause, in most cases that's all we have to do. However, we cannot Change everything overnight, so there is a time and a place to focus on other Protocols, like Herbs, as well as other Nutrients that can help certain Disease Conditions.

Remember, most of our Illnesses are due to excesses from Eating the Wrong Food, which is why Fasting reverses so many Disease Conditions. However, there are some Disease Conditions that Fasting does not address as not all Deficiencies are due to poor assimilation, which is what many Natural Hygienists believe.

As Dr. Max Gerson says, all disease is based on Toxicity and Deficiency and to Heal we must Detoxify and Rebuild, which is why 99% of my students start their journey off for a better life with a Juice Feast!

Juice Feasting with John Rose in Houston 12-9-09

So much judgment and critiquing of the way people look on these forums. Who cares! Looks are not an automatic representation of one's state of health. Any studies done on jowl details and longevity or immune function? Who are you (not directed at any one person, just a general statement) to decide how another person should look or how that look represents their state of health?

Vitality, happiness, immunity > Looks, physique

Only very shallow and immature individuals obsess over vanity and the appearance of others.

Weird things happen to the body when a person gets to middle-age and beyond. It doesn't mean that they're not healthy. I remember one female raw foodist on this board saying that she added 3 inches to her waist when she hit middle-age. This happened despite her diet. I think that you're judging this person and the only thing he's guilty of is not exercising chronically. And yes, his bone structure doesn't meet the standard ideal. I should have put quotes around "weak chin" when I used it before. Not my words.

John Rose Wrote:
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> <<>>
>
> It's the thickness of his jowl!

"The problem with people like James is the same problem with people like jt and TSM as you guys do NOT understand the Cause of Disease and as long as you do NOT understand the Cause, you will continue to focus too much on the Art where we put too much emphasis on other Protocols, like Herbs, and too much emphasis on certain Nutrients that can help certain Disease Conditions."


Oh, Johnny,

I very much understand the Cause of Disease, which in nearly all cases is some form of body toxicity and/or nutritional deficiencies. Herbs can aid the healing process in many different ways, including containing potent phytochemicals which repair and protect DNA, detoxification and fighting foreign invaders. Juice fasting can be a great way to heal, and it's very easy to learn by yourself, but in many circumstances it's not nearly as effective as herbal remedies. These instances include late-stage cancers, bacterial infections, diabetes, anxiety, hormonal imbalances, learning disorders, etc.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/29/2015 09:19PM by jtprindl.

One of the very first books I read when I found out about Raw Foods 25 years ago was “Your Face Never Lies” by Michio Kushi (see Order and Method of Diagnosis below) and ever since then, I look at EVERYBODY I see everywhere I go and I look for certain things, like the jowls, the disproportionate belly to body ratio and I've even noticed that people's feet will pronate more on the same side that their belly is bulging on.

So when I met people for an appointment, I noticed things that most of you guys are totally unaware of because it's my job. I see the relationship between the jowls and the belly and indeed, there is a relationship!

As I wrote above...

"As a Weight Loss Specialist, I too find "weight loss information from a fat guy" humorous. As fresh pointed out, that does not mean they don't know how, but whenever any so-called Weight Loss Specialist starts talking about losing weight and they ONLY focus on FAT, they are CLUELESS about Weight Loss!"

Order and Method of Diagnosis

"When diagnosing people, try to see their total condition, their wholeness. See their past, present and future -- their background, their physical and mental condition, and their possibilities for growth. What is their destiny? Consider their personality, their judgment, and their spiritual level. The Order of Diagnosis comprises three steps. First, you understand the individual's total environment. Second, you see the present physical and mental condition and relate it to the totality. Third, you see the details -- symptoms. Modern Western medicine tends to pass over the first two steps and concentrate on the third.

The Method of Diagnosis comprises five steps: (1) intuitively grasping the whole; (2) listening to the person's case history; (3) observing the person's handwriting or aesthetic expression; (4) seeing the symptoms; and (5) touching to confirm what you have seen. Work in this order; do not touch first. In this way you can develop your intuition. Then, even when people are not with you, you can know their condition by intuition. And when they come to see you, you will already have an image of them. You may not know the details, but you have a feeling about what their problem is.

You know this already from personal experience. When you meet strangers you have a feeling about their personality or their spirituality. When you check their symptoms by listening, seeing and touching, you are learning in more detail what you already know about them. By developing your sensitivity, you can diagnose even when the person only calls you on the telephone or writes you a letter. Of course, people would not be satisfied with this, so we have to meet them. Still, sitting down with people, talking to them, touching, should be nothing but confirmation. This keen intuition is the essence of traditional Oriental medicine, but unfortunately most doctors -- Oriental and Western -- have lost this ability." -Michio Kushi, “Your Face Never Lies” p. 1

<<<I very much understand the Cause of Disease>>>

Here's an exercise for you, which, of course, you can ignore if you wish.

What's the Cause of these Diseases and what Stage are they in: DISH - Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis, Heart Murmur, Interstitial Cystitis, Pancreatitis and Scleroderma?

I send these files out to my students so they can learn how to become their own doctor. In order to answer these questions, you have to know a little something about Natural Hygiene and Conventional Medicine.

Once again, you don't have to do anything if you don't want to, but this will be a good exercise for you if you are so inclined.