I've posted this article in my Thread "Tom Billings Syndrome" but my Post with this article is not very easy to read or to distinguish between who says what, so I'm creating a New Thread that only includes the link so EVERYONE can read it and NOT end up being a FAILURE like TB and temp/organic 1/powerliar/chris.

I'm currently re-reading this amazingly insightful article and I cannot help but think that those who criticize fruit consumption are getting a lot of their BOGUS ideas from TB's BOGUS website.

For this reason, I highly encourage those who criticize fruit consumption or who are new to Raw Food and are uncertain because of all of the IGNORANT naysayers to not only read this article, but study it carefully as it covers a lot of issues on How NOT to be a Raw Food FAILURE!!!

[www.ecologos.org]
Tom Billings: dietary failures

Peace and Love..........John

PS For those who would like to understand just how deluded TB is, read all of the comments in the Thread below.

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Tom Billings Syndrome…





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organic1 Wrote:
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> Yet historically that hasn't seemed to prevent
> these type of individuals still contiuning to
> offer their dangerous diet advice or 10k water
> fasting retreats, even after killing or nearly
> killing their clients through malpractice.
>


you're right about DG and his dangerous practices.

although public outcry (including myself and others) stopped graham to some extent.

> These people can't even construct a healthy
> nutritionally complete diet

be specific.

my diet has been run through cron and posted here and is nutritionally complete imo. although people have different ideas of nutritional targets

feel free to post your diet as I have


, yet people like tai
> think its rude of me to say that John is not up to
> the job to be treating cancer and serious health
> problems for money and only with juice fasts.
>

she was correct based on what you said that it was out of line.

John,
who wrote that article about Tom on ecologos.org? It's insightful.

organic1 wrote:

tai think its rude of me to say that John is not up to the job to be treating cancer and serious health problems for money and only with juice fasts.

Tai:
I don't think John does what you claim. First, John is actually very sensible when it comes to cooperating with other health professionals, which is how he has worked with doctors.
He has talked before a lot about using other modalities when necessary.
John does not limit himself to the NH model. I don't want to put words in John's mouth, but that's what it seems to me.

John has amazing case studies on juice fasts. He has a great collection of cases.

People pay tons of money to massage therapists, raw food chefs, workout trainers, etc. I personally would pay more for a highly specialized juice fast coach. You should be glad you know him and cherish your relationship with him.

John, do you have it in your heart to forgive this man and wish him well in turning over a new leaf?

Organic1, melt into the love of non violence. Return back to the garden. It's not a big deal to take a supplement, just like it's not a big deal to use a computer or drive a car. We are not cavemen anymore.

Peace to you.

If you take a food prep class, do you require your teacher to have an active license?

I have been licensed since 2000, and I have been actively working with and taking classes from MDS, NMDS, Lacs, DCs, etc, since I graduated. LIcensed people have their place. But then I meet someone like John Rose who has had some successes that very few of my teachers have had and then I am all ears. Does he replace the licensed people who run every kind of test under the sun? No, but he serves a purpose and I cherish his experiences and what he has learned.

Am I NH? No, I still am TCM, but I am here to learn the pearls where I can.

And actually, John Rose is humble, which is a side that you may not understand if you confront him like you do. But it is that humble side that interacts with others, when he is trying to help people and cooperate with other professionals.

organic1 wrote:
Johns amazing "case studies" as you call them, are testimonials written by John Rose himself or his own word of mouth claims from his extensive clientele of doctors, lawyers and other high flying fake professionals who don't actually exist in the real world

Tai:
I actually heard an audio interview of an emergency care physician who used John's coaching. Am I correct John? This man really made leaps and bounds. And JOhn was so humble, as there was no question who was the MD (the client) and who was the coach (John). The MD showed John immense respect and gratitude for real help.

He had a TV show that showed real clients and other videos.

The humble side I am talking about is when he interacts with professionals and when people genuinely come to him for help and treat him respectfully.

Don't get too invested in a negative picture of John in your mind, in case one day, you need his friendship.

Organic1 wrote:
if you didn't view me as some kind of pantomine bad guy simply because im not pro-vegan.

Tai:
Huh? I actually like you. I don't judge you for eating meat, and I understand how you have come to have your philosophy as it stands. But for me and my path and my background and how I help people, it's vegan. I don't feel at odds with you. I feel at peace with you.

And if you could open your mind to hear other stories without feeling like you have to defend your personal philosophy while attacking another, then maybe you will grow more. Almost every one of my TCM teachers is omnivore. I am so versed in the philosophy. I am always the minority and the loner.

Organic1 wrote:
hes not a kind or caring man no matter how much you want to try rebrand the guys overt personality

Tai:
It all depends on how you approach John. And he has a tough love policy, whether I agree with it or not. And I asked him to stop responding negatively to certain people. And I do appreciate how he gives his time for free on the forum and how he has experience to back it up and how it hurts him when people take cheap shots at him.

But I showed him due respect and I asked the right questions, and I am delighted with his sharing.

When you take the thorn out of the lion's paw, he starts to purr.

And John is human and makes mistakes and wouldn't it be nice if people kindly pointed out those errors without any exaggeration. He is a decent person who is capable of changing.

Organic 1:
yet i've never heard you speak up about it.

Tai:
I have, but I am discrete.

organic 1:
if you wish to take part in this forum you may disagree with something he says

Tai:
I have. He and I have had several discussions where we each share our perspective that don't agree with each other. yet, we agree on several points. It's those points that we agree on that are so special, because it's where the magic happens.

Anyway, ORganic1, the trick in successful human relationships is to focus on the positive, not the negative aspects of a person.

Tai,

So beautifully said.

Thanks, Fresh.

Nice that you are still kind to Organic 1, temp, whoever he is.

I had a friend for like 15 years who was always mean and unhappy. One day she was diagnosed with gallstones. I put her on herbs and a fruit and vegetable diet (plus some acupuncture for the acute episodes, plus I used the daily Norman Walker juice prescription for gallstones). (By the way, as a full range omnivore, she resisted the vegan diet for all the years she knew me and would never have considered an even more restricted vegan diet, all raw or high raw.) She overcame her stones and about 2 months into the diet, she called and said, "hey, I am so happy these days. I realize that I have been a biotch all these years and I am calling to say sorry. In fact, I am calling all my friends and apologizing to them." The diet really changed her mood, and unclogging her gallbladder and liver really helped tremendously. I was so touched and a day I never really expected to see.

When a person is acting out, sometimes that is a reason to show them even more love. Sometimes a diet that seems incomprehensible may one day become comprehensible and doable and the thing that heals the person. So, it's nice to keep the lines of communcation open for when the person is ready.



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Beautiful. Thanks for sharing Tai, you are an inspiration, would love to meet you in person on day.

Thanks for posting that although it is not a full report, and you know very well that any blood test results do not indicate health, they only point out obvious problems with certain nutrients.

I cannot find my results - I remember everything was in reference ranges

JR did not say you were failing,
he said you are bashing something that you failed at, but of course you are prone to twisting statements.

Tai wrote:

<<<John,
who wrote that article about Tom on ecologos.org? It's insightful.>>>

Yes, this was a very insightful article written by Laurie Forti and here is another really good article she wrote…

[www.ecologos.org]
The Human "Omnivore": a mythological beast

<<<I actually heard an audio interview of an emergency care physician who used John's coaching. Am I correct John? This man really made leaps and bounds. And JOhn was so humble, as there was no question who was the MD (the client) and who was the coach (John). The MD showed John immense respect and gratitude for real help.

He had a TV show that showed real clients and other videos.>>>

Tai, there is a HUGE difference between me and chris when it comes to what I say about him and what he says about me - I ALWAYS tell the Truth and NEVER Lie and chris is just the opposite - he ALWAYS Lies and NEVER tells the Truth, which is why everyone started to call him PowerLIAR instead of Powerlifer.

<<<And if you [chris/organic 1] could open your mind to hear other stories without feeling like you have to defend your personal philosophy while attacking another, then maybe you will grow more.>>>

The LYING Man is NOT interested in growth as it is obvious that he has an Agenda, just like Sue Schadenfreude!

<<<And John is human and makes mistakes and wouldn't it be nice if people kindly pointed out those errors without any exaggeration. He is a decent person who is capable of changing.>>>

Tai, you know that I’m really fond of you even when you don’t see what I see and you think I am at fault. That’s perfectly fine with me because I know without a doubt that you have the BEST of intentions. However, I have been focusing on the Obstacles on the Hero’s Journey for a very long time, especially the last 5 years, and I have learned how to recognize the ENEMY because I know how they think and how they act. I no longer see GOOD in everyone because some people have NO GOOD in them. Yes, this really saddens me because I would like to think that everyone has GOOD in them, but they don’t! Approximately 5% of the population are Psychopaths and once you study these SICK Individuals, they are very easy to spot.

<<<John, do you have it in your heart to forgive this man and wish him well in turning over a new leaf?>>>

I have no problems with Honest Skeptics, but I do with DISHONEST SKEPTICS and this lost soul is a DISHONEST SKEPTIC!!!

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Re: Herbert Shelton's way of FASTING
Posted by: John Rose
Date: March 22, 2013 10:17AM

Chris, you remind me a lot of Tom Billings who was also a very sick individual and since he failed at Raw Food, he was hell bent on blaming the diet instead himself. You act like you care and you are here to give “both sides of the coin” and yet, it is you who Condemn without Investigation. If you really cared like you pretend to do, you would read about Biophotons so you would understand that your Drug of Choice has turned this Planet into Hell and you would read the “Ethics of Diet” so that you would know that Vegetarianism is Not a fad, but NO, you are a DISHONEST SKEPTIC!!!

Unlike you, I study both sides of the coin and it is you who try to justify what you do. I only care about the health of those people who are suffering and if there was any proof whatsoever that people needed to eat Cooked Food, I would promote Cooked Food. But all of the proof is for the Food every Living System on this Planet is designed to Eat, including us.

Indeed, you are a very sick puppy Chris. Why do you come to a Website that promotes Raw Food when you don’t live this way and don’t encourage others to live this way, which is the PURPOSE of this website? You can’t say that it’s because you care about people and you want to give “both sides of the coin” because you don’t know “both sides of the coin” and you don’t want to know!

Once again, it’s obvious that you don’t care about people because if you really cared, you would read up about Biophotons and try to Prove Raw Food is healthy instead of trying to justify why it’s OK to Eat Dead Burnt Bodies. Indeed, you are a lot like an atheist who goes to a Religious Website just to make others as unhappy as you.

No, Raw Food is NOT a Religion, but Raw Food is definitely the Salvation for our Species!!!

Peace and Love..........John
[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

Thanks again for all of your kind words Tai! If the whole world was like you, this place would, indeed, be Paradise!!!

fresh wrote:

<<<JR did not say you were failing,
he said you are bashing something that you failed at, but of course you are prone to twisting statements.>>>

As I have pointed out, chris is a lot like jt as they both “are prone to twisting statements”!!!

"so EVERYONE can read it and NOT end up being a FAILURE like TB and temp/organic 1/powerliar/chris." - John Rose

Yes, you FAILED at Raw Food just like TB FAILED at Raw Food!!!

Look at my post above dated March 22, 2013...

"Chris, you remind me a lot of Tom Billings who was also a very sick individual and since he failed at Raw Food, he was hell bent on blaming the diet instead himself."

organic1 Wrote:
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> You do realize that you branded me a failure in
> the very first line of this thread ? think before
> you speak John.
>
> "so EVERYONE can read it and NOT end up being a
> FAILURE like TB and temp/organic
> 1/powerliar/chris. " - John Rose.
>

exactly. failure at a diet.

you're not really that obtuse are you?

> Convient also fresh that you don't have your own
> test results, considering how often you demand
> everyone post theirs up.

I only asked for yours because you were discussing others, and I wish I had mine, I have nothing to hide and no reason to misrepresent.


>
> Anyway ive stepped up to the plate, put my blood
> test results and i don't have any of the abnormal
> cardiovascular disease risk markers that Kristina
> does.


this is why people call you powerliar, unfortunately.

it has been explained to you in several ways why her results are as they are.

I see that you are unable to say "oh, I see that she was not in a fasting state, that may explain it,, sorry for my ranting" or something similarly honest. or as I have said, she could be low in b12 which causes lipid problems. only a second test and a b12 test can confirm this. but of course it's very important to your identity that she is unhealthy.


>
> How about you post your test results up John ?

already told you if it was not urinary mma it's meaningless.

chris' brain

loop
over 60% carbs causes high TG
-- if facts counter to the above are revealed,
-- exit loop
-- end if
end loop


see above chris? The -- means that the line is commented out and non functional!

you have left the IF statement commented out!
just remove the -- and it will work properly!

HAHAHAHAHAH

"Kristina didn't have low vitamin b12 levels either on her test."

Yes, I can tell you actually listened to the video.

For the rest of you - Kristina clearly stated on the video, for all to hear, that she takes vitamin B12 supplementation. Her doctor clearly stated that Kristina's B12 level was off the chart high. (Looked like that chart went up to 2000!). Excess B12 is usually peed out within hours of taking it. It would not be surprising, being that she was a good little collegiate student type, (top 5% in her class), who would expect good test results from herself for her study efforts, if she took her B12 supplementation shortly before blood was drawn to insure it was still in her bloodstream and not peed out yet.

Sue Schadenfreude and the Lying Man aka organic 1 are teaming up and are at it again, so it's time to be reminded on how these SICK Con Artists operate...

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Re: The Anti-Raw Movement: Misinformed or Deliberately Deceitful?
Posted by: John Rose
Date: January 28, 2014 12:35PM

In order to NOT be a VICTIM, it helps to understand how we’re being DECEIVED!!!

Below is my File Preview for my file on Con Artists and I actually assigned Numbers to every Article I read and highlighted so I could identify any Duplications, as well as help others identify those areas that might apply to them.

For this Thread, as well as other Threads on this Website, please pay attention to these Numbers as they apply to the one who is now recognized as POWERLIAR as he uses these tactics to CON and DECEIVE, unfortunately, a large percentage of those who don’t pay close attention and have very short memories.

Con Tactic #1) 1 of 14

Factors We Can Count On: [14X]
1) Humans are incredible easy to con, scam, and manipulate. With the right salesman and the right words, you can sell them just about anything. The anti-drug war° is our shining example.

Con Tactic #2) 2 of 14

2) When emotion and reason clash, emotion wins almost every time. Appeal to emotion. Even if your appeal defies logic, reason and common sense, a great many of the sheep will simply go along.

Con Tactic #3) 6 of 14

6) People have short-term memories so no matter what we get caught doing, the masses will soon forget about it.

Con Tactic #4) 19 of 20 - [1 of 4 Diverting Attention]

19) Use smokescreens to divert attention. When you want to hide an activity or when you want exposure kept to a minimum, or when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, use an emotion laden unrelated issue as a decoy. This is also a good way to shift focus away from you.

With this technique, you can distract people's attention. You can get them to focus on the decoy, and most of them won't see what's really going on. This is a variation of the classic distraction technique of waving flags with one hand while stealing a suckers wallet with the other.

JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]

Con Tactic #5) 20 of 20

20) If anything goes wrong, deny, deny deny.

Con Tactic #6) 4 of 10 - [2 of 4 Diverting Attention]

Divert Attention. [JR: Sleight of Hand.**] [Dup - 4X]

Con Tactic #7) 11 of 28 - [3 of 4 Diverting Attention]

11 Diverting Attention [Divert Attention]

This technique is used for three purposes: 1) to distract attention from the real issue, 2) to derail talk about the con artist himself and/or about what he is doing, and 3) when a con artist has no legitimate complaint, he/she will often look for and make an issue of something trivial or all but irrelevant.

Another example of this technique is when the con artist ignores the issue and attacks the character of the opponent.

Have you ever watched a TV program where they demonstrate and explain how a magician or a con artist can distract your attention with one hand and steal you watch or wallet with the other? This technique is also a great political ploy.**

**JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]

Con Tactic #8) 14 of 28 - [4 of 4 Diverting Attention]

14 Ignore the Evidence -- Ignore the Truth:
Ignore everything that conflicts with the beliefs and/or the story you are selling. Apply the Universal Law of Thought. which, in part, says: "To fight something is to feed it universal energy and make it stronger." The rule here is to simply ignore it.

If you are forced to respond, do so with as few words as possible. Remember to "deny, deny, deny," to divert attention, and to attack the opponent. [Dup - 4X]

**JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]

As you can see, Diverting Attention is the one that’s used over and over by POWERLIAR and is Duplicated 4X in my file on Con Artists as Numbers - 11 of 28, 14 of 28, 4 of 10 & 19 of 20, especially Con Tactic #7) 11 of 28 - Another example of this technique is when the con artist ignores the issue and attacks the character of the opponent.

For those who do NOT want to be a VICTIM of a Con, here is my File Preview for my file on Con Artists…

…File Preview…
• JR Insert from “Videos” file…
• “So dark the con of man.”
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• How to Become a Con Artist
• Find a "mark." No matter what type of con you're attempting, it all comes down to finding the perfect person to pull it on. Study your victim--known as a "mark"--in order to learn everything and anything about him or her. The ideal mark is as trusting as he or she is rich.
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The Con Artists' Hand Book
JR’s Condensed Recap
• Step One -- Creating Controversy [4X]
Step Two -- Creating a Positive Public Image
Step Three -- Manipulating Controversy [10X]
Step Four -- The Art of a Good War [8X]
Step Five -- Mind Manipulation
Factors We Can Count On [14X]
Our Training Program [4X]
Destroy the Opposition [4X]
Where to Focus Our Attention [17X]
What We Believe [5X]
The Rules [20X]
• Step One -- Creating Controversy [4X]
2) Create a problem so we can step in and solve it.
Step Two -- Creating a Positive Public Image
Step three -- Manipulating Controversy [10X]
Use the problems you've found or created to:
Step Four -- The Art of a Good War [8X]
Step Five -- Mind Manipulation
Factors We Can Count On [14X]
Our Training Program [4X]
Destroy the Opposition [4X]
Where to Focus Our Attention [17X]
What We Believe [5X]
2) We believe in scarcity. [Another Magic Act…the Illusion of Scarcity.]
The Rules [20X]
• Step One -- Creating Controversy [4X]
• 2) Create a problem so we can step in and solve it.
• JR Insert: Take away their Knowledge of How to Live and then, treat their symptoms with Chemical Solutions - it's Magic!!!
• Step Two -- Creating a Positive Public Image
• Make a big public spectacle of whatever issue you choose. Proclaim that God is on our side and the devil is on theirs. Dehumanize those on the other side whenever possible, so we can justify manipulating our sheep (our followers) to hate them and support us.
• Step Three -- Manipulating Controversy [10X]
• Use the problems you've found or created to:
Raise money.
Sell fear and divisiveness.
Manipulate the public.
Divert Attention. [JR: Sleight of Hand.**] [Dup - 4X]
Gain followers.
Inspire our followers to turn their lives, their labor, and their resources over to us. Remember, we need workers who will, willingly and without questioning us, follow orders.
Generate controversy -- Remember our motto: "Controversy sells! And it's a multi-billion dollar business."
Get our spokesmen in front of the media.
Get our position expressed in the media.
Gain political power.
**JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms.
• Step Four -- The Art of a Good War [8X]
• Learn the art of creating wars, just remember to confine most of the destruction to someone else's country. Wars are fantastically effective tools for several reasons.
• * During war, the masses live in fear and while in that state, what little mental capacity they do have will be derailed. The vast majority of them will sell their freedoms for what they think is security. Passing "The Patriot Act" was a good example of success at using the art of war and fear.
• * Wars are great for making a dismal economy look good. Just look what we are doing with the war in Iraq. We are actually in fiscal Disneyland (December 2005) but the public has no idea that our excessive, government, deficit spending is the reason they can't afford even the basics of life. See the section on deficit financing called Inflation.°
• * With a good war in progress, we don't have to have consumers with money enough to buy our products. We simply destroy what we have built and thus, we can justify the need to build more of what we have destroyed. We can also destroy billions of dollars worth of other things such as buildings, bridges, and the like. And then hire our friends to rebuild them. The Cheney-Halliburton contracts are a good example of this technique in action.
• * War is a wonderful way to transfer, wealth our friends. If you are in any way connected to the military industrial complex, wars are your bread and butter. Actually war is not your bread and butter; it's you multimillion dollar home, you three yachts and your seven girlfriends.
• * War is a wonderful way to consolidate our political power. When the public is living in fear, they will buy almost any scam that promises security. For example, the Bush born-again fairytale was a stroke of demonic genius not only for it's mind bending and vote getting capacity, but it made war a God-ordained necessity. The Bush born-again fairytale is the greatest con-artist success since the passing of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
• * Be sure the need for war really never ends. When it's time to end the conflict, just settle things enough to pacify the masses. Remember the mastery of George Bush Sr. In 1991, he had American troops thirty-four kilometers from Saddam Hussein's palace, when he stopped the war, brought the troops home and left Hussein in power. He justified his actions by saying that he left Hussein in power because by removing him, we could get somebody worse.
• George Sr. didn't tell us who could possible be worse. Stalin and Hitler were both already dead and unavailable at the time, the Bath Party in Iraq was an outgrowth of of the Nazi's Third Reich, and Saddam Hussein's was a despot at least the equal to Hitler, himself. But none of that seemed to matter, and the public didn't bother to ask where George Sr. could possibly find a worse replacement.
• Without that simple act of demonic mastery on the part of George Sr., today we could not be funneling $4,000,000,000,000 (Four trillion dollars) of the peoples' money into the pockets of our friends.
• * Remember, to justify war you must have an enemy. But don't let anybody know that we set the conditions, supplied the hardware, and provided the training required that put both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin laden into power.
• * And in case you haven't noticed, we are already laying the foundations for the next major war. This one will be with China. Our team is funneling billions of dollars in their direction, building their industrial base and now some of us are even proposing selling military hardware to them, directly.
• The next time you buy something, look at the tag to see where it was manufactured. If you think the relationship between Wal-Mart and China is a coincidence or an accident, come on over to visit me and bring lots of cash. I have a beautiful bridge in Brookline that I'm sure you'll want to buy.
• And about that U.S. Navy, reconnaissance plane filled with tops secret, state-of-the-art, electronic equipment that just happened to get "bumped" (damaged) by a Chinese fighter plane and them made an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan in April of 2001, don't even ask. Just remember, to have a war, you must have an enemy -- an enemy with the capacity to wage a credible war.
• Step Five -- Mind Manipulation
• Remember this classic truth: Program a child's mind when he (or she) is very young and you've got him/her as an adult. Although it's listed in fifth place on our list, this axiom is actually the number one rule of manipulation and control. It goes to the very heart of mental creations and directly employs The Universal Laws of Creation. °
• If you want to control and dominate, don't waste your time, money, and effort building walls or fences and hiring armed guards.
• Instead, build schools and teach little kids what to believe. Use fear based programs to teach them not to think for themselves. Destroy their self-esteem by telling them they are inherently evil. Tell them that they are going to burn in hell unless they, without question, do exactly as you tell them to do. Tell then that it's impossible to escape from the devil without your help. Tell then that they must pay you money or you won't be able to help them.
• Factors We Can Count On: [14X]
• 1) Humans are incredible easy to con, scam, and manipulate. With the right salesman and the right words, you can sell them just about anything. The anti-drug war° is our shining example.
• 2) When emotion and reason clash, emotion wins almost every time. Appeal to emotion. Even if your appeal defies logic, reason and common sense, a great many of the sheep will simply go along.
• 3) Remember that manipulating beliefs is the key to control. Illusion is far more effective than violence. But be prepared to use, support, endorse secretly encourage violence whenever it serves our purposes.
• 4) Behind the scenes, you can do anything you want. Just don't get caught.
• 5) If you do get caught, remember the scapegoat principle. It works wonders and the public buys it every time. Simply sacrifice one of your lower level pesople or some one high up who is a potential trouble maker. In no time at all, it's back to business as usual.
• If necessary, pay someone to take the fall. Do you remember Marine Cornel, Oliver North, the Iran Contra scandal and the secret, criminal activity that was being orchestrated out of a basement office in the Whitehouse? If your answer is yes, you are a rare exception. Look where our buddy, Olly North, is today (2004). He's on TV and radio peddling our agenda and the gullible public simply listens.
• 6) People have short-term memories so no matter what we get caught doing, the masses will soon forget about it.
• 7) Money talks and says, "Do things my way." Financial enticement is a primary tool for gaining cooperation.
• 8) The "Silver of Lead" rule works almost every time. (i.e., take this money and look the other way or we'll kill you and your family) Once they've taken their first bribe, we own them.
• 9) People always act in a manner that they believe is in their own best interest.
• 10) "Tell a lie loud enough, long enough, often enough and people will believe it." (Quote, Adolph Hitler JR: BS it’s a Jewish Lie - the BIGGEST CON ARTISTS OF ALL!!!)
• 11) Remember the famous Martin Niemoeller quote from WWII.° Most people will do as he did. They'll simply go along and not protest until it's too late. In order to succeed, we need to remember that "Rome wasn't built in a day." Be patient. Avoid pushing too hard or too fast.
• 12) Everybody is expendable -- except you and me, of course.
(Actually this rule is: "Everybody is expendable -- except me."
• 13) Remember the Golden Rule: "He who owns the gold rules."
• 14) Mind-altering drugs are great control tools, and making some of them illegal provides a fantastic source of secret money. Keep legal and promote drugs that destroy such as alcohol and nicotine. Degrade, demonize, and criminalize any mind altering products that have the potential (when used properly) to show the user an alternate view of reality, such a Peyote, magic mushrooms, marijuana, and LSD.
• Our Training Program:
• 1) Destroy Self Esteem
• 2) Teach Conflict and Separation -- "divide and conquer"
• 3) Use Mindlessness -- Program the sheep (our followers) not to think for themselves. Tell them what to think. Tell them what to believe.
• 4) Strong Emotional Responses -- Conflict and divisiveness are important because they induce high emotion which is the ideal mental state for reprogramming the minds of the masses. This is where we get the masses to demand what we want to impose upon them.
• Destroy the Opposition:
• 1) Attack Dissenters
• 2) Eliminate their Leaders
• 3) Get rid of those who are Influential or have leadership potential -- Kill them or help them have a fatal accident before they become powerful.
• 4) Topple All Heroes and Positive Role Models
• Where to Focus Our Attention: [17X]
• Gain Control of all the following:
• 1) First and foremost, control the monetary system. Remove the gold standard which cannot be manipulated and used and replace it with fiat (paper) money over which we have almost complete control.
(The Federal Reserve was a stroke of genius. Outside the church's ongoing variations of the selling of indulgences° concept, it's the longest-running, most-lucrative, financial scam in all of human history, and even after 91 years, the public still thinks we are providing a service. Remember to always refer to what we do as a "service."
• 2) Replace the paper money with a debit and credit system. When the people use checks, credit cards, or debit cards, this allows us to track their financial activities and often their physical movements. It also allows us to exclude trouble makers from the system.
Our goal is to avoid allowing the public to control anything, particular their money. Examine the original intent of the Social Security ° system and notice how our predecessors destroyed it. They transformed it from a potential multi-trillion-dollar investment portfolio controlled by the people that were set up to eventually providing large retirement sums to the elderly into a forty-trillion dollar debt.
• 3) In the situation where you can't steal the money directly, steal the value out of the money. See the section titled Inflation.°
• 4) Control and claim ownership of the natural resources.
(All of the planet's natural resources belong to all the people -- oil, coal, mineral, natural gas, and the like. Never let the people find this out. If they did, our governments would be like the former government of Iraq was in that, instead of the people being taxed into oblivion, the government would be paying the people. If the public ever get wise to this scam, their would be no need for taxes, and we'd lose our sources of wealth, power and privilege.)
• 5) Control the education system.
(Re-write the history books. Take out all referenced to how we [our robber baron grandfathers and great grandfathers] manipulated the system, emasculated the peoples legislative representatives, changed the rules and laws to favor ourselves, and amassed our concentrations of wealth and power.) We refer you back to the above section titled: Mind Manipulation.
• 6) Control the media, particularly the news.
(Remember, freedom of speech is only half the issue. When we restrict our opposition's access to listeners and we have, in essence, squelched freedom of speech. If we control what is in the print and broadcast media, we can sell our "services" to the masses, and at the same time, the problem of free speech for the dissenters is all but eliminated.)
Television is one of our most powerful tools.
(To understand why, see the page titled: The Three Immutable Universal Laws° and then view the page titled: TV-Mind-Control. You can deceive, con, misinform the public and completely hide the truth by simply using lies of omission.° )
• 7) Control the transportation system.
(Make the masses move around in fear. Let them, on a daily basis, know who is in charge. Use the transportation system to collect additional taxes. Set up a trust system in which we secretly own all the vehicles and give the so-called owners beneficiary rights.** Remember to always refer to what we do as a "service."
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Did you ever wonder why the fine print on that little sticker you buy and put on the government's license plate which is on the back of the car you think you own says, "For Official Use Only." Well, now you know. Technically and legally the government actually owns your car. Your car is owned by a government trust and you have beneficiary rights. Because the government owns the car that you think you own, they can regulate how fast you can drive it, where you can park it etc.
The public was appalled when Hitler tattooed a number on the wrists of Jews, but nobody gives a second thought to the number "tattooed" on the backs of their cars. Remember these two con artist rules: "Sell them safety and security and they'll buy just about anything." and "Get the public to demand what you want to impose upon them."
• 8) Control the courts and the legal system. [Part of the Government - Duplicated 11 & 12 of 20.]
(Remove the Constitutional legal system and replace it with military law. Turn judges from their rightful position as referees into controllers of the legal system. Remember to always refer to what we do as a "service."**
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Did you ever wonder the flags in court rooms and in government offices have gold fringes on them? Well, now you know.
• 9) Manipulate the criminal investigation system. The best way to avoid getting caught is to have on your payroll a few people in key positions in the various criminal investigation systems. [Part of the Government - Duplicated 11 & 12 of 20.]
• 10) Own the legislators in both state and federal governments. Pay for electing all politicians. Buy them and you own them. Legalize bribing legislators. Make up a nice sounding name for it. Call it lobbying. [Part of the Government]
• 11) Set up regulatory agencies supposedly for the protection of the public. It only takes a year or so for those of us in the industry supposedly being regulated to manipulate the system and secretly take control of the regulatory agency. We can then manipulate the laws to favor ourselves. We can stifle and/or eliminate the competition. And we can do this in the name of protecting the public. ***1 [Part of the Government - Duplicated 13 of 20.]
• 12) Create a national ID card. The Social Security number was a good start but we can't legally use that, so we need to re-introduce this concept with something new such as a national drivers license. This will give us the long overdue "Internal Passport" with which we can control the people's movement within the country.
• 13) Whenever technology can assist us. Use it! For example, make hardwire telephones seem obsolete. Promote the use of wireless communication. Why? Because we can monitor anyone's wireless communication without the messiness of the court order required to tap a hardwire telephone.
• 14) Focus on divisiveness. Create confusion, chaos, and violence (including wars) whenever possible. Remember, controversy sells! And it's a multi-billion dollar business.
• 15) Manipulate the public into demanding what you want to impose upon them. Remember to always refer to what we do as a "service."
• 16) Tap the public treasury to pay for as much as possible.
• 17) Claim the need for secrecy. That way you can hide the truth about what we are doing.
• JR’s Top 8 things to Control:
1) Monetary System
2) Natural Resources
3) Educational System
4) Media
5) Courts & Legal System***
6) Criminal Investigation System***
7) Politicians***
8) Regulatory Agencies***
***Part of the Government
• What We Believe:
• 2) We believe in scarcity. [Another Magic Act…the Illusion of Scarcity.]
• The Rules: [20X]
• 1) Rule one is that rules don't apply to us. Rules are for those on the other side. Demand that those on the other side follow the rules.
• 2) Rule two is to do whatever is required to create and maintain power and control, BUT
• 3) Always present a good public image. Remember that the ultimate crook is the person or group who never gets caught engaging in socially unacceptable or criminal behavior. You can take either of two routes here. You can be a public person who is looked-up-to, respected, honored, trusted, and is often considered a pillar of his society. Or you can be a behind the scenes power broker who is all but invisible to the public.
If you choose the behind the scenes route, you'll need to create an organization that can and will be in the public eye. Foundations are excellent front for our activities. In the midst of thousands of legitimate foundations, ours will be all but invisible, and besides, we can do a few things that the public likes a even raise money doing it.
• 4) Set up a front man to face the public and to peddle our agenda. The front man must present an appealing, wholesome image. He must be either a master salesman or have some credentials that give him the respect of the masses. War heroes and born again sinners are the two top selling credentials.
What the behind the scenes people do is a completely different matter. Lies, cons, half truths, manipulation, blackmail, bribery, murder, wars and the like are all OK. Just keep the front man clear of any connection to what is really happening.
• 5) Always claim the high moral ground, always claim that God is on our side, and always claim that the Devil, himself, is ruling the opposition.
• 6) Always keep our public figures at least three steps removed from anything that could be damaging to their credibility. Remember, if you put even only one step between you and whatever you want to hide, the public will simply not see the connection.
• 7) When writing rules, always make an exclusion clause° for yourselves.
• 8) Design the rules so that you can follow the letter of the law and at the same time, completely ignoring its intent. The auto insurance industry has the world's best example of this. Our legislators passed a law prohibiting insurance companies from charging higher fees because of where a driver lives, so that now they base their fees on "the zip code where the car is garaged."
• 9) Create a secret language° with which you can give orders and never be held accountable for giving those orders.
• 10) Set up secret groups to do the illegal, unethical or immoral tasks. Off shore groups are easy to hide, and so are secret factions within government organizations.
• 11) The best way to avoid getting caught is to have on your payroll a few people in key positions in the various criminal investigation systems. [Duplicated - 9 of 17.]
• 12) When the public demands an investigation, be sure that our investigation team controls those doing the investigating. Have them do a very thorough examination of aspects of the crime that lead away from us and simply ignore anything pointing in our direction.° The Warren Commission's investigation on the Kennedy assassination is a good role model to follow in this regard. [Duplicated - 9 of 17.]
• 13) Set up organizations, government agencies, foundations, and the like with the public persona of serving the people by solving social problems. Focus entirely on the symptoms, make a lot of hoopla, and the public will think you are actually doing something. BUT... Never, never go after the source. If you do, you could actually solve the problem and put your self right out of business. The anti-drug war° is our shining example here. [Duplicated - 11 of 17.]
• 14) If we have good news to report, be sure our front man tells it. If we have bad news, always have someone else tell it. Always keep our front man as pure as possible. In many cases, it will be best to have disposable team members make statements, make accusations, and ask controversial questions.
• 15) Misinformation and disinformation are great tools for conning and manipulating. Use them profusely.
• 16) Share information on a need to know basis only. Keep as few records as possible. Classify as much as possible to keep the records secret.
• 17) Never pay for unethical or criminal services directly. Always use an indirect method with at least three levels of intermediaries so no one can connect you to the dastardly deed or to the crime if it's discovered.
You can easily payoff someone indirectly by having a club member pay your obligation for you. Use someone who appears to have no connection to you. Then later through another club member you payoff that obligation through another intermediary. Make it so complicated that no one outside your inner circle can follow the money trail.
• 18) Mislabel everything. Call bribery, lobbying. Call killing innocent people, collateral damage. Call taxing the public a service.
• 19) Use smokescreens to divert attention. When you want to hide an activity or when you want exposure kept to a minimum, or when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, use an emotion laden unrelated issue as a decoy. This is also a good way to shift focus away from you.
With this technique, you can distract people's attention. You can get them to focus on the decoy, and most of them won't see what's really going on. This is a variation of the classic distraction technique of waving flags with one hand while stealing a suckers wallet with the other.
JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]
• 20) If anything goes wrong, deny, deny deny.
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The Con Artists' Hand Book
Basic Philosophy
• The descriptions below do not simply apply to the lone, snake-oil-salesman type of con artist. The more sophisticate manipulation and control organizations have been around for years, in some cases, for centuries. Many of them are family dynasties, with entry not based on virtue or ability, but on one's family of birth.
• Others are semi-secret fraternal-type organizations commonly referred to as "Old Boys Clubs." Membership in the fraternal organizations is by invitation and members often play key roles in major political organizations. (One example is the Bush family° and the Skull & Bones Secret Society° Type "Skull and Bones" or "The Tri-lateral Commission" into any internet search engine and see what comes up.)
• These family dynasties and fraternal groups have set themselves up as pillars of the community. Their main issues are money, power, control, and the prolongation of the ancient and still strongly held belief in a two class society with the elite in control and everyone else as being disposable servants living in poverty.
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The Con Artists' Basic Philosophy
Our Goal
Step One -- Creating Controversy [4X]
2) Create a problem so we can step in and solve it.
Step Two -- Creating a Positive Public Image
Step three -- Manipulating Controversy [10X]
Use the problems you've found or created to:
Step Four -- The Art of a Good War [8X]
Step Five -- Mind Manipulation
Factors We Can Count On [14X]
Our Training Program [4X]
Destroy the Opposition [4X]
Where to Focus Our Attention [17X]
What We Believe [5X]
2) We believe in scarcity. [Another Magic Act…the Illusion of Scarcity.]
The Rules [20X]
Link to Part Two -- Techniques used by Con Artists and Manipulators
The Con Artists' Basic Philosophy
Part One -- The Basic Vision
The Text below is written from the con artist's point of view.
• Our Goal:
Our goal is to return to a pre-American-Revolution, two-class society. We, the upper class, will live in opulence and privilege. We will control the wealth, the power, and everything else. What happens to everything and everyone else is irrelevant.
And let's remember the lesson from the Kennedy presidency -- leisure time gives people time to think, time to expose us, and time to challenge our authority. The masses must be kept at the survival level. That way they will not have time to think about or challenge what we are doing.
• See JR’s Condensed Recap above for the rest of this section.
• Step One -- Creating Controversy [4X]
Step Two -- Creating a Positive Public Image
Step Three -- Manipulating Controversy [10X]
Step Four -- The Art of a Good War [8X]
Step Five -- Mind Manipulation
Factors We Can Count On [14X]
Our Training Program [4X]
Destroy the Opposition [4X]
Where to Focus Our Attention [17X]
What We Believe [5X]
The Rules [20X]
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The Guidebook for
Con Artists and Manipulators
Con Artist Tricks°
Page Content [28X]
• The Standard Reaction
1 Beliefs are Stronger than Steel and Stone
2 Confusing Reality with a Story About Reality
3 Declare Reality
4 Distort the Truth
5 Peddle Misinformation and Disinformation
6 Use a Third Party Deceiver
7 Prove Me Wrong
8 I'm the Authority -- Trust Me
9 Use the Uncontested Obvious or the Irrelevant as Proof
10 Use the Opponents Argument as Proof of your Position
11 Divert Attention [Dup - 4X]
12 Be Excessively Technical
13 Use Personal Beliefs as Proof
14 Ignore Any Evidence that Does not Fit the Pre-determined Conclusion [D - 4X]
15 Ask Loaded Questions
16 Create a Problem
17 Get People to Demand What You Want to Impose Upon Them
18 8 Let's You and Him Fight
18 8a Create Divisiveness
19 Chaos For Conversions
20 Get The Child and You've Got the Adult
21 The Exclude Me Clause
22 Secret Language
23 Becoming Offended
24 Politics By Murder
25 Divide and Conquer
26 Two Sides Are Actually only One
27 How to Steal a Million Dollars
28 What's the Pattern Here
• The Standard Reaction:
• When you first begin reading the information offered below and on our other web pages, you will probably have the standard reaction: This is crazy. It's too far out to be believable. The author is just another lunatic. Here are four factors that you might want to consider:
• First, your reaction is the typical of the pre-programmed response that was installed in most children's minds by their church, their school, and the social structure when they were too young to resist. **
• Second, each section on our web sites is only a small piece of a comprehensive study of the abortion controversy, its religious base and the religious social structures that dominate this controversy. Reading more sections on our web sites, causes each individual piece becomes more logical and its place in the overall study become more apparent.
• Third, the lunatic fringe is now and always has been the source of all major changes on planet Earth. There is no evidence that that's about to change.
• Fourth, the descriptions below do not simply apply to the lone, snake-oil-salesman type of con artist. The more sophisticate manipulation and control organizations have been around for years, in some cases, for centuries. Many of them are family dynasties, with entry not based on virtue or ability, but on one's family of birth.
Others are semi-secret fraternal-type organizations commonly referred to as "Old Boys Clubs." Club membership is by invitation and members play key roles in major organizations.
• These family dynasties and fraternal groups have set themselves up as pillars of the community. Their main issues are money, power, control, and the prolongation of the ancient and still strongly held belief in a two class society with the elite in control and everyone else as disposable servants living in poverty.
• Look at the techniques below and see if you can find any organizations that use these them. Our goal here is not to condemn anybody, but rather to bring awareness to those who have eyes and are also willing to see.
• A Guidebook for Con Artists and Manipulators
• 1 Beliefs are Stronger that Steel and Stone
• The first step a budding con artist needs to take is to study, learn, and understand The Three Universal Laws and The Seven Principles of Hermes. Then they can build their prison walls out of beliefs. They need not waste your time building walls of steel and stone.
• The Russian fascists, under the false claim of being communists, attempted that. They used violence backed up by illusion. Stalin even murdered 70,000,000 of his own people in an attempt to maintain control. It was a dismal failure!
• On the other hand, those controlling the American government have focused primarily on illusion. They back up their illusions with bribery, with payoffs, with secrecy, with manipulation of the laws, and with a dozen or so more scams and tricks such as the Federal Reserve and Enron-style, creative accounting. Whenever necessary, they revert to intimidation, threats, and violence. In terms of maintaining power and control, they have been a phenomenally successful.
• You have probably heard the classic line about this: "Stone walls do not a prison make nor iron bars a cage."** That, in essence, tells us that "External constraints cannot imprison someone whose spirit and thoughts are free." It also tells us that walls built out of beliefs accomplish far more than those built of stone and steel.
• The Bottom Line:
• The most successful con artists focus on mind control, on creating sheep. Here are the ABC's of control: a) specialize in teaching people what to think; b) condemn, ridicule, or get rid of those who think for themselves; and c) murder or destroy those who refuse to go along.
• Please don't believe this. Instead we invite you to ask John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, John Lennon, Larry Flint, or any of dozens of their less-well-known compatriots. Politics by murder always has been and still is the global norm. Americans have simply been programmed to believe that such things don't happen here.
• Our no-choice friends come from a long lineage of people who have maintained their power and control by intimidation, violence, arson, and murder, and yet they are perceived by the public as Godly people loving the world. [Here are just two examples of their handy work: William Tyndale. and The library at Alexandria. ]
• The most successful con artists study church history and use the religious criminals as their role models. They set themselves up as one of the good guys. and elicit money and workers from among the sheep. The Ultimate crook is the one who is revered and respected as a pillar of the community. Lies and deception are his stock in trade. For example, Lyndon Johnson still is considered to be a respected leader by most people; however, when you closely examine the things he did, you get a very different story. For another example, see the page titled: Let George Do It.
• The Downside:
• You must always remember that there is a serious downside to using these techniques. First, most con artists get caught in your own trap. See the next section Confusing Reality with a Story About Reality.
• Second, we do not know with provable certainty what happens to us after our bodies die. The con artists who use this technique are gambling with their future -- their future in what the Christians call "eternity".and in what the Eastern religions call "Karma."
• Another word of warning:
• You are far better off learning to control yourself rather than attempting to control others.
• 2 Confusing Reality with a Story About Reality
• This is, without a doubt, the most pervasive, the most common, the most successful, and the most dangerous of all the tricks in The Con Artists' Guidebook. It's so good that most people unintentionally fool themselves. Even the con artists usually get suckered in by their own game. They start believing their own lie.
• 3 Declaring Reality
• 4 Distorting The Truth
• 5 Peddle Misinformation and Disinformation
• Intentionally teaching the public things as true while knowing full well that they are false. The intent is to manipulate and control others. Why? The Following quote answers that question: "The ultimate tyranny in a society is not control by martial law. It is control by psychological manipulation of consciousness, through which reality is defined so that those who exist within it do not realize they are in prison."
• 6 & 7 Use a Third Party Deceiver Prove Me Wrong
• You’ve been duped by the no-choice spin-doctors into participating in two of the most successful tricks in “A Guidebook for Con Artists and Manipulators.” The first is called “Prove Me Wrong” and the second is called, “Use a Third Party Deceiver.” Here’s what you said followed by how the deceptions work.
• The Truth Versus the Con:
• When asking the question from both sides, it becomes obviously that nobody has the proof required to answer that question with certainty either way. But asking it from one side only and ignoring the other is a scam worthy of the sleaziest of politicians or a master snake oil salesman. It’s so good that I’ll bet you didn’t even know you’re playing a part of the no-choice con game!
• Here’s what the “Prove Me Wrong” scam actually accomplishes:
• The line, as you delivered it, takes something that is unknown and unknowable and delivers to the public as if it were a provable fact in support of no-choice position.
• Here’s how the “Use a Third Party Deceiver” game is played:
• The Manipulator finds someone, like you, who believes their lie, someone who is physically attractive, someone whom the public knows and respects, someone who will give their message a high level of credibility, someone who can elicit emotional responses in their listeners, and then the manipulators use that person to peddle their deception. The speaker’s passion and his/her belief in the lie overpower its falsehood and give the deception a great deal of credibility.
• Also, because the manipulator isn’t doing the public speaking himself, he can’t get caught in his own lie, and if something goes wrong, he also has a ready-made scapegoat at whom he can point the finger.
• And the money pours in:
• 8 I'm the Authority -- Trust Me
• 9 Using the Uncontested the Obvious or the Irrelevant as Proof
• 10 Using the Opponents Argument as proof of your position
• The Classic example:
• The Classic example of this technique was used to justify taking the U.S. monetary system off the gold standard. "Gold should not be used as the standard measure of money because Gold in merely a commodity."
• The manipulators removed gold from the nation's money system and replace it with fiat money (i.e. funny money, paper bills, Federal Reserve so-called- notes). Why? Because: 1) The value of gold can't be manipulated, 2) It can't be arbitrarily inflated, 3) It can't be stolen without the theft being obvious, 4) Deficit financing is not possible with gold, 5) The people are in control in a gold standard economy, and 6) It violates their golden rule: "He who owns the gold rules."
• Divert Attention is Duplicated 4 X - 11 of 28, 14 of 28, 4 of 10 & 19 of 20.
• 11 Diverting Attention [Divert Attention]
• This technique is used for three purposes: 1) to distract attention from the real issue, 2) to derail talk about the con artist himself and/or about what he is doing, and 3) when a con artist has no legitimate complaint, he/she will often look for and make an issue of something trivial or all but irrelevant.
• Another example of this technique is when the con artist ignores the issue and attacks the character of the opponent.
• Have you ever watched a TV program where they demonstrate and explain how a magician or a con artist can distract your attention with one hand and steal you watch or wallet with the other? This technique is also a great political ploy.**
• **JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]
• 12 Being Excessively Technical
• This technique involves talking in language that only a technician or someone with great knowledge would understand and then declaring the technical data as proof. This practice is usually combined with the technique called, "I'm the Authority -- Trust Me."
• 13 Using Personal Beliefs As Proof
• You will frequently hear a statement beginning with, "I believe," followed by a stated or implied "therefore," followed by a carved in stone conclusion. One wonders what relevance the speakers personal beliefs have to passing secular laws.
• 14 Ignore the Evidence -- Ignore the Truth:
• Ignore everything that conflicts with the beliefs and/or the story you are selling. Apply the Universal Law of Thought. which, in part, says: "To fight something is to feed it universal energy and make it stronger." The rule here is to simply ignore it.
• If you are forced to respond, do so with as few words as possible. Remember to "deny, deny, deny," to divert attention, and to attack the opponent. [Dup - 4X]
• **JR Insert: JR’s Magicians - smoke and mirrors, get them to focus on the Effect hand and not the Cause hand by naming our problems based on the symptoms. [Dup - 4X]
• 15 Ask Loaded Questions
• Asking questions in a manner that makes a statement and/or implies an answer. In legal terms, you've probably heard this referred to as "Leading the Witness."
• 16 Create a Problem -- Then Offer Your Solution
• And of course, put yourself in charge of the solution and then pay yourself handsomely for your services. This is a variation on the technique of getting the people to demand what you want to impose upon them. (See the next section below)
• Chaos, confusion, grief, misery and all the other negative emotions, conditions, and circumstances are the breading ground for con artists. The most sophisticate of them exploit and/or intentionally create problems and then set themselves up as the hero who solves the problems.
• Why? Because when people get desperate, they will make choices that under other circumstances they would never consider. This technique combined with selling of the Con Artist's Solution is a master's tool to generate political and religious conversions and in doing so, make money and get workers for manifesting the con artist's Goals.
• Churches: Churches destroy children's self esteem and replace it with dependency on the church.
• Illegal Drugs: Making certain drugs illegal has produced a need for police, political control, and prisons. About seventy percent of all criminal activity is related to people who need money to buy drugs.
• Computer Viruses: Anti virus sellers need virus creators. Did you ever wonder where all these computer viruses are coming from and why the anti-virus business is a multi-billion dollar business. We'll apparently, a few billion dollars is not enough money. Here's the latest twist in the anti-virus business. I'll explain this with a historical example and then a personal story.
• Plop Plop Fizz Fizz Oh What a Relief It Is. You're almost certainly familiar with this classic advertising slogan for Alka-Seltzer. Did you ever wonder where it came from or why? The Executives of the company that owned and sold Alka-Seltzer went to their advertising agency and said we want to increase our sales. The advertiser said, "That's simple, get your customers to take two tables instead of just one. Thus was born "Plop Plop Fizz Fizz Oh What a Relief It Is." Apparently someone in the anti-virus business also heard about Alka-Seltzer success story and decided to do likewise.
• 17 Get the People to Demand What You Want to Impose Upon Them:
• Decide how you want to change the laws, find a way to sell your position, and get the public to demand those changes.
• Another way is to hide the legal changes you want in the form of an amendment and attach that amendment to a completely unrelated law that your opposition wants passed.
• 18 Let's You And Him Fight
• 18a Create Divisiveness:
• A classic technique in the art of confrontation is to polarize one group against another. This technique has two primary applications.
• The first use is to get the opposition arguing and fighting among them selves. In military terms, it's called divide and conquer. It's also a common strategy in politics.
• 19 Create Chaos for Conversions
• This technique and the "Get the Child" technique (below) are tandem tools of manipulation. They are used primarily by major organization. Both were important in the Former Russian Communist Regime. They're not new. Both are ancient in origin. Both have been standard operating procedures used for centuries used by religious leaders.
• The "Chaos for Conversion" technique involves getting people into a state of high negative emotion (fear /anger) or accessing their minds when they are already in a state of high negative emotion. While they are in that state, the manipulator offers "The One True Religion" or "Our Political System" as "THE" answer to the person's problems. (Every religion thinks that their beliefs represent the one and only true religion. All others are considered to be just myths.)
• Why seek states of high emotion? Because that's how and where the controlling centers in the human mind are most easily reached and where beliefs are most easily altered. Installing beliefs into a person's mind is the most successful technique presently known for controlling a person's behavior. Installation is done primarily at two key points, either when the person is in a high negative emotion as mentioned above or when the person is a very young child, as described in the section below titled, "Get the Child."
• 20 Get The Child and You've Got the Adult:
• This technique is a partner to the "Chaos for Conversion" technique (above). It's based on the fact that a young child from birth to about age seven is very receptive and takes in almost everything as if it were the literal truth. The intention is to program the minds of children before they are old enough to question what they are being told. Once beliefs and behavior patterns are installed in their young minds, almost all of them will carry the beliefs and behavior patterns for the rest of their lives.
• Remember the old saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks." If you teach a puppy to tear up an old shoe, how do you later teach him the difference between an old shoe and a new one? Well quite simply, you can't. Although slightly more flexible that a dog's mind, the human mind follows this same pattern.
• Once the beliefs and behavior patterns are installed, it's relatively easy to access them, particularly in a state of emotional crisis such as found in the "Chaos for Conversion" technique (above). Have you ever noticed that at moments of stress in your life you find yourself reverting to a behavior pattern that you thought you had long since let go of? It's called "Reverting to Type" and con artists count on it to control the masses in times of war and social chaos. How do you think "Resident" Bush and his ego-atheist team got the so-called "Patriot Act" passed congress?
• The "Get the Child" technique is thousands of years old and has been used by churches and political groups around the globe. The Roman Catholic Church, the Moslem religion, and the former Russian, so-called communists are probable the best know users of this technique.
• 21 The Exclude Me Clause
• Make up rules for everybody to follow and then exclude yourself or your buddies from having to follow the rules. Literally thousands of laws have been passed with this type of exclusionary clause in them. For example, in the process of supposedly eliminating loan sharking, (charging excessive and outrageous interest on loans) the federal government made it illegal for anyone to charge an interest rate above ten percent. They conveniently excluded banks and credit card companies from having to comply with this law. In essence, what this law did was move loan sharking from back alleys and hoodlum hangouts into the exclusive offices of the finance and banking industry.
• Another variation of this theme is to design the rules so that no matter what happens, we win. Lawyers, stock traders, and politicians are notorious for this. Some examples: No matter who wins or loses a law suit, the lawyers always collect money. No matter whether stock prices go up or down, the stock broker always collects money.
• 22 Secret Language
• Set up a secret language so that you can give orders and if accused of misdeeds, you can deny having ever told anyone to do anything wrong. This is a variation of the process in which military messages are encrypted so the enemy, although hearing the message, doesn't know what it means.
• 23 Becoming Offended -- The last Refuge of a Scoundrel:
• When caught in an unethical action, a scoundrel will often feign offence. It puts the accuser on the defensive and it often works like magic in derailing a confrontation.
• 24 Politics By Murder:
• There is a certain class of people who have a notoriously short life expectancy. I'm referring to those who seriously threaten the status quo. Here are a few names you might be familiar with:
John F. Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Robert Kennedy
Anwar Sadad
Malcom X
John Lennon
John F. Kennedy Jr
• The Elimination of Heroes: Have you noticed that in the last few years, almost every person who could be looked up to as a hero/role mode has either died young or has been attacked and had their careers destroyed. Here are a few names you might be familiar with:
John F. Kennedy Jr.
John Lennon
Pete Rose
Former President Bill Clinton
Martha Stewart
Michael Jackson
• The Old Boys Club: As you may have figured out by now, "The Old Boys Club" is both alive and getting very desperate. They too, see "the hand writing on the wall" and know that, like all the other peddlers of death and misery, they, too, will soon be history. They are; however, becoming increasingly desperate in their dying years. Their clandestine acts of murder and character assassination, like the construction of the Berlin Wall, are act of desperation by those drowning in their own cesspool of ego, greed, and corruption. See the page titled: Winning with a Losing Issue -- Conflict sells and it's a Multi-Billion Dollar Business.
• 25 Divide and Conquer:
• The Concept: Those who use this approach, begin by looking for and finding people with the right psychological profile so that they can be either: 1) consciously and intentionally invited to be part of the team or 2) simply manipulated and used via clandestine means. When they are found, the users of this concept do whatever is necessary to support the person's efforts against the opposition. Lets examine how this works be looking at presidential politics.
• Mr. Nadar chose the first option. In the face of numerous appeals from his supporters to step out of the race, he refused and, by divide and conquer, gave the White house to the Republicans. In so doing he created numerous loses. The Democrats lost. Nadar lost. His political career ended, because nobody in their right mind can possible vote for someone who believes that "There is not one iota of difference between the Republican and the Democrats." And most of all, the public lost.
• 26 Two Sides Are One
• Often what appears to be two sides is actually only one side. This is a close relative of the divide and conquer ploy and the Lets you and him fight game.
• In this scenario, the manipulators have two opposing sides fighting each other, but behind the scenes, there is a third group of con artists who manipulate and support, or aggravate and egg on both sides. Probably the clearest example of this is the American political system. No matter whether republicans or democrats are in charge, the public gets screwed. There are obvious differences between the two sides, but the behind-the-scenes power brokers on both sides live by similar fundamental values:
Profit first; me first; control at any cost; people last;
environmental destruction is OK; what happens any one else
or anything else is irrelevant.
• The second world war had the same financiers supporting both sides. And who do you suppose was responsible for setting Saddam Hussein up in Iraq. Non other than the United Sates government.
• The 1991 Gulf war, why was Saddam Hussein left in power? Why did the American forces stop 34 kilometers from his palace and turn around and go home. 1) Because those in control need an enemy. Otherwise, how can you justify spending billions of dollars on military hardware. 2) Because without an enemy, you can't justify installing fascist, police state laws, and imposing government secrecy. 3) Because those in control need chaos, confusion, grief, misery and all the other negative emotions, conditions, and circumstances in order to manipulate the masses and maintain control.
• The game is played by getting one group mad at the other, and either sell weapons to both sides or use the conflict to amass more political power and control. The divisive issue doesn't matter, as long as it can be used to set one group against another. Here are some examples: The gay rights, the anti-abortion war, religion against religion, such as protestants versus Catholics in Northern Ireland. Ethnic or racial conflicts such as Blacks against whites as in the U.S or Moslems and Catholics in Bosnia. Real physical wars such Afghanistan and Iraq.
• The so-called war on drugs is actually a ploy designed to stifle the competition, a technique to keep the prices high, a means of destroying the minds of the political dissenters, to way to increase crime and justify creating and maintaining a fascist police state and an elaborate prison system, a source of billions of secret dollars, and probably several more reasons that are not apparent at the moment.
• Where do you suppose all the drug money is going? Do you really believe that hundreds of billions of dollars could be laundered every year and put back into the economy without the support of those running the world's governments?
• 27 How to Steal a Million Dollars
• Actually, stealing a million dollars is really quite easy. You simply have to approach your goal from a direction that the general public is either unaware of or is not inclined to publicly protest. Stealing a million dollars is done in the same way, symbolically speaking, that you would eat an elephant -- One Bite at a Time. Here's how this scam works:
• If you steal a million dollars from one person, you stand an excellent chance of winding up in a dark and dingy, cold prison cell. If you steal one dollar from a million people, you stand an excellent chance of winding up in a huge mansion with servants and a chauffer-driven limousine.
• And if you get caught stealing one dollar at a time, the usual punishment is that your corporation gives a piece of the action (a small percent of the stolen money) to the government (technically called a fine). The government agent slaps your wrist and then you go home to think up another money-producing scam. This happens all the time. It's happening right now all over the world. You just have to know where to look. Look into the industries that have been the defendants in class action law suits -- banks, insurance companies, credit card companies, oil companies, telephone companies, etc. Does the name Arthur Enron mean anything to you?
• JR Insert: Hospitals, e.g. HAC.
• Some examples: 1) There's a well known orange juice company that made millions watering their juice. 2) The local government-owned, water and power company actually billed this author for putting more water down the sewer pipes than came into his property in the incoming water pipes. Who has the time and energy to even complain, let alone challenging this kind of petty nickel and dime thievery.
• 28 What Are The Patterns Here?
• 1) The same people always win -- the money interests.
• 2) The same people always lose -- the general public.
• 3) The movement is toward an antiquated two class society with the wealthy owning and controlling everything and everyone else as their disposable servants.
• 4) A fascist police state controlled by a one party system, but disguised as a two party system.
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Peace and Love..........John
[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

As you can see, these Con Artists are very PREDICTABLE and if you pay attention, it's easy NOT to get Tricked and Fooled and NOT be a VICTIM to their DECEPTIONS!!!

SueZ Wrote:
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> "Kristina didn't have low vitamin b12 levels
> either on her test."
>
> Yes, I can tell you actually listened to the
> video.
>
> For the rest of you - Kristina clearly stated on
> the video, for all to hear, that she takes vitamin
> B12 supplementation. Her doctor clearly stated
> that Kristina's B12 level was off the chart high.
> (Looked like that chart went up to 2000!). Excess
> B12 is usually peed out within hours of taking it.
> It would not be surprising, being that she was a
> good little collegiate student type, (top 5% in
> her class), who would expect good test results
> from herself for her study efforts, if she took
> her B12 supplementation shortly before blood was
> drawn to insure it was still in her bloodstream
> and not peed out yet.


No one hates the facts more than jrose it seems. Or is it just that he's another one of those who has not watched or listened to Kristina's video?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/23/2015 05:13PM by SueZ.

Here's a snippet from this article to pique y'alls interest...

[www.ecologos.org]
Tom Billings: dietary failures

TB: Raw diets do not guarantee perfect or even just plain old "excellent" health. My own health problems and those of others (friends and rawists on the email listgroups) attest to that.

TB never even attempted to consume a quality raw diet, he did not attempt to eat sufficient quantities of specific nutrients, he merely ping-ponged between different, totally inadequate diets, and subjected himself to repeated thermal stress. The "failures" of the few do not invalidate the successes of the many. There are many thousands of people who are quite pleased with their results on a raw diet.

If all the other species of Life on this planet manifest perfect health on a raw diet, and humans are the only species that "fails" on a raw diet of commercial produce, then it would seem obvious that the poor quality of the commercial human diet, thermal stress, and the validity of the human's understanding are the causes of any problems.
[www.ecologos.org]

Once again, this is really a good article and is a must read for those who have don't want to make the same MISTAKES as TB and many others!

organic1 Wrote:
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> Ohh more derogatory nicknames from John, what a
> surprise.
>
> We couldn't expect him for just once in his life
> to focus on the topic at hand and answer a bloomin
> question for once, rather than another character
> attack.
>
> Can't wait to hear how Tai will continue to defend
> and justify this sort of appalling behavior
> though, pure gold, where are you Tai ?


Tai takes it as her health care worker duty to try and help those who show evidence of being bat shite crazy and who are teetering on a mental health snapping point. (You might remember the same sort of motherly "handling" went on with TheStorm a while back. ) Due to that factor, IMO, there's no reason to expect her to abandon defending jrose, against all reason, during this latest in the series of maniacal tantrums he's prone to.

Tai wrote:

<<<It all depends on how you approach John. And he has a tough love policy, whether I agree with it or not. And I asked him to stop responding negatively to certain people. And I do appreciate how he gives his time for free on the forum and how he has experience to back it up and how it hurts him when people take cheap shots at him.>>>

Hey Tai,

It's not so much "tough love" as much as it is more like Jesus whipping the Money Changers for converting Money for the visitors so they could SACRIFICE Animals.

Indeed, I could really relate to this passage on pages 616-617 from “The Age of Voltaire" by Will & Ariel Durant...

“A revolution to overthrow this conspiracy of the few against the many would be quite justified. ‘Where,’ Meslier cried out in his final fury, ‘where are the Jacques Clement [who killed Henry III] and the Ravaillac [assassin of Henry IV] of our France? Are there men still alive in our days to stun and stab all these detestable monsters, enemies of the human race, and by these means deliver the people from tyranny?’"

I'll never forget when I read this and I said to myself, Yea, I'll do it!!!

Whenever I contemplate on how many people are suffering on this planet this very minute, my heart gets heavy and I literally want to scream!!! And then, when I read the crap that comes from the likes of Sue Schadenfreude and The Lying Man, I have NO patience with them because I know who they represent and I understand the HARM they cause! Of course, they'll try to turn this around and say it's me that's doing HARM, but everyone knows that's exactly what everyone does in order to take the heat off of them.

So don't be Fooled and think there's any GOOD in anyone of these 2 lost souls and remember, your Empathy only infuriates them even more.

Organic 1 wrote:
Can't wait to hear how Tai will continue to defend and justify this sort of appalling behavior though, pure gold, where are you Tai ?

Tai:
From the Essene Gospel of Peace:

"From today live at peace with your Heavenly Father, and with your Earthly Mother, and with your Brothers, the Sons of Men. And fight only against Satan, lest he rob you of your peace. I give the peace of your Earthly Mother to your body, and the peace of your Heavenly Father to your spirit. And let the peace of both reign among the Sons of Men.

"Come to me, all that are weary and that suffer in strife and affliction! For my peace will strengthen you and comfort you. For my peace is exceeding full of joy. Wherefore do I always greet you after this manner: 'Peace be with you!' Do you always, therefore, so greet one another, that upon your body may descend the peace of your Earthly Mother, and upon your spirit the peace of your Heavenly Father. And then you will find peace also among yourselves, for the kingdom of God is within you. And now return to your Brothers with whom hitherto you were at war, and give your peace to them also. For happy are they that strive for peace, for they will find the peace of God. Go, and sin no more. And give to every one your peace, even as I have given my peace unto you. For my peace is of God. Peace be with you."

Re Tom Billings. I must say, though, that he has some very good articles on sprouting here on rawfoods.com. I consider them (almost) the final word.