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examined various issues including memory, fat stores, performance, etc

satiety better on the high fat diet (although the cooked carbs probably caused overeating)

better memory,
better cognition,
better bicycle performance
on high carb

30 min mark for bike test



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Insulin response in the twins study

BETTER on the high carb diet

high fat diet twin went prediabetic

Maybe you should put all that pro-carb posting energy into planting fruit trees far and wide since you are so utterly convinced. Much better use of your time than yelling on this forum...

I usually like your posts nunativs.

but that one was really dumb.

it was a very interesting video to me.

one word in my post in caps, and I'm yelling?

and you have nothing of substance to say?

no wonder this board is dead.

no participation.

The real reason this board is dead is because of you Fresh, and to a lesser extent John Rose. Have you ever bothered to read the boards policy statement where it says '' to support people on a primarily raw plant based diet ( including honey )? It doesn't say people have to be 100% raw or eat a high fruit diet, yet every time someone voices their opinion, talks about their personal experiences or what is happening, you chime in with your nonsense about the high fruit diet and how everyone is doing it wrong. If it works for you, then great ( even though you eat fish and cooked food ), but not everyone wants to eat 15 bananas to get their calories for lunch.

How crass are you to label NuNativs ' dumb ' because he makes a sensible suggestion. It seems like you spend all your time sitting watching videos on youtube to find the smallest bit of evidence to support your high fruit diet. Don't you have a life other than watching videos and posting them here?

Not everyone who comes to this way of life is on deaths doorstep and needs to eat 100% raw or 100% fruit. This seems to be lost on some of the health gurus. I wasn't lying in hospital, I didn't have Crohns Disease, asthma, tuberculosis or anything like that. There are many people who want to know more about a healthy diet that they don't need to have extreme views turn them off. For the people who want a 100% raw diet that's ok, but for new people a bit of fine tuning and knowledge is all they might need.

As for John Rose, if Prana is happy for John to keep labelling people as PSYCHOPATHS and abusing and insulting people, then I don't blame John, but why would you want to be on a board when there is no discussion unless you are high fruit, or someone is allowed to continually insult anyone who doesn't bow down to his wisdom.

Most of the people here are decent and respectful, but it only takes a couple of rotten apples to spoil it for everyone.



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Nicely said BJ...

I am sad that this board has gotten so negative...Its been about 11ish years since I have been on here. I used to be a 100 percent raw vegan then and I can say different ways of eating have worked for me at different times but this should definitely be a place of support considering the SAD of the non raw world has very little to offer , although several years ago it was way harder mo.Anyways glad to be back and Im really intrigued by this bbc article.

BJ Wrote:

let's see exactly why BJ is a fool

-------------------------------------------------------
> The real reason this board is dead is because of
> you Fresh, and to a lesser extent John Rose. Have
> you ever bothered to read the boards policy
> statement where it says '' to support people on a
> primarily raw plant based diet ( including honey
> )?

I have done that

> It doesn't say people have to be 100% raw

I never said people have to be


or
> eat a high fruit diet,

never said people have to


yet every time someone
> voices their opinion, talks about their personal
> experiences or what is happening, you chime in
> with your nonsense about the high fruit diet and
> how everyone is doing it wrong.

I "chime in" with facts.
sorry you don't like them.


>( even though you eat fish and
> cooked food ),


no I do not. read the previous sentence again .

I see BJ is another idiot like temp, claiming that he knows something that he does not.


but not everyone wants to eat 15
> bananas to get their calories for lunch.
>

who said you should?

you literally have no clue as to what you're talking about.


> How crass are you to label NuNativs ' dumb '

never said he was dumb. you are.

I said he said something that was dumb.


> because he makes a sensible suggestion. It seems
> like you spend all your time sitting watching
> videos on youtube to find the smallest bit of
> evidence to support your high fruit diet. Don't
> you have a life other than watching videos and
> posting them here?
>

yes. thanks for telling me what I should be doing.
while telling me that I allegedly do that and that I should not be doing what you are doing. got that?


> Not everyone who comes to this way of life is on
> deaths doorstep and needs to eat 100% raw or 100%
> fruit.

never said that.

This seems to be lost on some of the health
> gurus. I wasn't lying in hospital, I didn't have
> Crohns Disease, asthma, tuberculosis or anything
> like that. There are many people who want to know
> more about a healthy diet that they don't need to
> have extreme views turn them off.


For the people
> who want a 100% raw diet that's ok, but for new
> people a bit of fine tuning and knowledge is all
> they might need.


never said that.

you fail to comprehend when someone says X is best that does not mean that they are saying that EVERYONE SHOULD do that.
>
> As for John Rose, if Prana is happy for John to
> keep labelling people as PSYCHOPATHS and abusing
> and insulting people, then I don't blame John, but
> why would you want to be on a board when there is
> no discussion unless you are high fruit, or
> someone is allowed to continually insult anyone
> who doesn't bow down to his wisdom.
>

nobody is stopping anyone from conversing about whatever you want.

> Most of the people here are decent and respectful,
> but it only takes a couple of rotten apples to
> spoil it for everyone.

like you. angry old man.

fresh wrote:

<<<let's see exactly why BJ is a fool>>>

Yes, BJ is one of the biggest Fools this website has ever seen. He claims to have been around way back when we were posting 15 years ago, so do you have any idea who this clown’s user name was back then? It’s obvious that BJ has some serious issues and if we knew who he was back then, it might make a little more sense.

BJ Wrote:

<<<It doesn't say people have to be 100% raw>>>

fresh wrote:

<<<I never said people have to be>>>

BJ Wrote:

<<<or eat a high fruit diet>>>

fresh wrote:

<<<never said people have to>>>

<<<I see BJ is another idiot like temp, claiming that he knows something that he does not.>>>

BJ is ALWAYS making projections and thinks that he knows what other people are thinking and he is ALWAYS attacking all of us who EAT 100% RAW FOOD, as he has done both of these things to me on numerous occasions despite the fact that I have corrected him every time and yet, he keeps doing the same thing in the same manner as temp!

If there is anyone who brings disharmony to this website, it’s people like BJ who ATTACK those of us who are 100% Raw. I have NEVER known anyone who EATS 100% RAW FOOD who has ATTACKED those who are NOT 100% Raw and I’m not saying that they don’t exist, but for some odd reason, there are lots of people who are NOT 100% Raw who constantly ATTACK those who do EAT 100% RAW FOOD, especially BJ.

One thing that I have noticed about fresh and BJ is that fresh has a good sense of Logic and BJ has NONE!!!

Here’s a perfect example…

BJ Wrote:

<<<How crass are you to label NuNativs ' dumb '>>>

fresh wrote:

<<<never said he was dumb. you are.

I said he said something that was dumb.>>>

This is a perfect example that shows that BJ has NO sense of Logic. Everyone does dumb things, but that does NOT make them dumb, unless they do it all the time, like BJ. Seriously, how many times do you have to tell someone that you don’t insist that everyone has to be 100% Raw and they turn around and accuse you of it again?





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