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Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Horsea ()
Date: April 02, 2019 12:22PM

Ayurvedic physician (American style Ayurveda) Dr. Douillard interviews Dr. McDougall, who loses his composure.

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McDougall makes a few good points but his behavior is contemptible - beyond rude. This video screams, "Don't be a vegan!" It is most unfortunate.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: April 03, 2019 08:04PM

Hi Horsea
I am assuming you are female from the a in your name.
sometimes men get a little quirky and uppity but you can't condemn their message for that.

Dr. Mcdougall helped pass a bill to require nutrition training for doctors. Mcdoougall has studied tons of studies about nutrition for decades and put forth very credible information. McDougall doesn't look so good because his former life was bad with chain smoking and bad eating. I think he had a stroke in his 20s and would smoke 2-3 packs a day.


He deserves a lot of respect for the decades of work in nutrition and mainstream medicine.

Bottom line, though, is that McDougall doesn't preach veganism. He says there are no vegan civilizations. So, you are a bit wrong about him being bad for veganism. He promotes plant-based eating. He is not a religious vegan.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Horsea ()
Date: April 03, 2019 09:39PM

McDougall doesn't look so good because his former life was bad with chain smoking and bad eating. I think he had a stroke in his 20s and would smoke 2-3 packs a day.

He doesn't look physically bad at all, for his age. That is not what the complaints are about. It is his odd behavior toward Dr Douillard.

It is an unfair world, where people are judged not by their learning or their knowledge, but also by how they come across. When you are trying to promote a plant-based diet you had better be nice to those who are giving you air time. That's baseball, that's the way it goes.

Also, after quite a few years of what he claims is a healthy diet, the effects of the smoking and heavy meat and junk food eating should be totally gone.

I hear this endlessly: whenever a person who is following and promoting an unpopular, uncommon diet of ANY kind (from keto to high starch to no-starch to all-raw to all-meat and everything else) develops serious symptoms, the followers always attribute this to something their hero did 20 or 30 years ago. I am not buying it.

If you watched the entire video, you will see symptoms over and above standard-issue poor personality. He is ill. It's not sinful or criminal to be ill, it never is, but I want to know why his diet is not working for him anymore.

Thanks.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: April 04, 2019 02:00AM

when you see people dying prematurely from bad diets and you see the environment being polluted unnecessarily, you may get a little rude.

a chiropractor who promotes meat as medicine invited John McDougall on his show. It was bound to be contentious. The interview was set up for disagreement. The interview was set up to show contrast. I don't agree with your assessment, Horsea.

with the all the vegans falling off the bandwagon, I am going to spend a little time defending McDougall.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Horsea ()
Date: April 04, 2019 04:43AM

Meat as medicine is just that - medicine. Not a forever way of eating. I would not avail myself of such "medicine" but we were not designed to take supplements either. Yet I suspect that a good number of rawfooders/vegans do take them in order to avoid McDougall's symptoms 30 years from now. I take a few and don't feel upset because it's "unnatural".

There are some interesting comments on lifespa's website about that debacle of an interview. Tai, McDougall is not well, he seems drunk, with the pugnaciousness that so many drunks show.

I went to McDougall's website and I think I see at least one thing that is wrong with the recommended diet, namely, no fats & oils at all. I don't mean just extracted fats (not sure we need those) but not even nuts & seeds & avocado. Try eating that diet for decades and see if you don't start acting odd. Go to google and look up "conditions that make you appear drunk".

Have the last word, now.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: April 04, 2019 07:38PM

Maybe McDougall was drunk so to speak, as he might have been on some medication, but his message is the same old. He is not against a small amount of nuts and seeds, but he says for some people, like himself, they can't stop at a little, they eat the whole bag. I read in his newsletters before that he says a small amount is fine. He has an addictive nature to certain substances, like cigarettes and nuts, so he has to be totally strict with himself.

Essylstyn is against oil too, as are many doctors. And he views heart patients differently to other people when it comes to diet restrictions.

To me, McDougall looks very deficient in many nutrients. And for him to have focused on the standard western foods cuts off many nutrient-dense foods, like tonic herbs and he has missed out on nutrient dense seeds. However, as far as his level of comprehension and intelligence of conversation, he is consistent in his message. I thought his message wasn't too negative.
We know that raw food heals, but McDougall's point is that large civilizations got their bulk of calories from starch.

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Re: Dr McDougall (vegan Dr.) flips out
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: April 05, 2019 02:56PM

This following video lays the subject to rest. The video that McDougall did with the chiropractor was done months ago, maybe 3 months ago, even though the chiro only recently published it. And when Horsea calls this chiropractor an ayurvedic physician, the man calls himself a chiropractor when introducing himself in front of McDougall.

So in this video recently done by McDougall just days ago, he calmly interviews the man who went on a potato-only diet. If you contrast this video with the video done with the chiro, you can see that McDougall was just trying to school the chiropractor.

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John McDougall, MD interviews Andrew (Spudfit) Taylor, Webinar 03/28/19

John McDougall

Published on Mar 31, 2019

Andrew Taylor’s story went viral when the world caught wind of the then 36 year old Aussie dad who had embarked upon a quest to eat only potatoes for the entirety of 2016.

But to assume – as most did, at first – that this was some clown doing something crazy and unhealthy on a whim for 15 minutes of fame, was to miss both the perfect logic of the experiment itself, and the exceedingly powerful and timely message Andrew brings. Hint: it’s not about the potatoes.

In late 2015, the former junior Australian Champion marathon kayaker was in the depths of despair after yet another failed attempt in a lifetime of dieting that had left him even heavier than before – 151.7kg.

From his black hole of clinical anxiety and depression, desperate to be the man he hoped his young son could look up to, he had an epiphany: he was a food addict.

Logically then, to Andrew, who thinks outside the square, he should treat his food addiction the same way you would treat any other addiction: through abstinence – or as close to it as you can get.
Armed with a degree in Applied Science (Human Movement) and a fascination with all things nutrition-related, the former high school physical education/health teacher spent six weeks researching ‘the perfect food’ before he settled on the humble spud – just in time to begin a whole year break from thinking about food on New Year’s Day, 2016.

With the media frenzy that followed his 'Spud Fit Challenge' story came the opportunity to help thousands of other food addicts deal with their own food psychology issues while losing weight and getting healthier along the way.

Andrew’s first short book, 'The D.I.Y. Spud Fit Challenge' : a how-to guide to tackling food addiction with the humble spud’ was co-authored by his wife Mandy van Zanen and has helped many people to break the shackles of food addiction.

Andrew now spends his time coaching others through food addiction through 'The Spud Fit Academy' community, speaking, making Youtube videos and interviewing ground breakers such as Rich Roll, James Aspey, Doug Lisle and Alan Goldhamer for his podcast. He has also just released his second book

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