Why do people believe "lab tests and doctors' reports" when doctors openly admit that they do NOT know the Cause for about 90% of our Diseases?

Why do people believe these Butchers and Drug Pushers when they outright LIED about their Vaccines Eradicating all of those so-called Contagious Diseases?

Let's take a look at how easy it is to TRICK our so-called Experts. All you have to do is start them with a FALSE Premise - Infections/Germs/Viruses Cause Disease and you end up with a FALSE Conclusion - Drugs, Vaccines & Surgery. All you have to do is Remove the Real Cause of Disease, the Patient, from those who diagnose them by creating a System that has a Primary Care Physician or General Practitioner that refers them to 130 Specialists who use 13 more Specialists in the field of Pathology - see Video at the very end.

Let's begin by taking a closer look at a video done by an Intentionally Misdirected Pathologist who goes by the "RawVeganDoctor" who claims that the Virus exists because she's been "Trained/Brainwashed" on how to look for CLUES!

Drowning in your own Liquid…

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That space has to be empty, the Alveolar Cavity, has to be empty - has to be an open space. What happens with Coronavirus or any other Respiratory Infection is that those Alveolar spaces are full of Liquid and Fluid - Inflammation, basically, that doesn’t allow the Oxygen - CO2 Exchange and, therefore, you need Ventilation because you’re congested you’re basically Drowning in your own Liquid.

JR Comment...
Ariel does NOT understand the Cause of Dis-ease, which is, in most cases, the Lymph System Backing Up into the Body and yet, she even admits that people with “Respiratory Infections” are Drowning in their own Liquid - Inflammation.

Ariel does NOT understand that Bacteria and even the Molecular Markers that our so-called Experts call Viruses are the Consequence of our own Waste Matter Backing Up and NOT the Cause of Dis-ease.

In other words, Ariel is simply repeating what she’s been told in Medical School and that’s that the Bacteria and the Viruses are the Cause of the Inflammation, but they call it an Infection because their whole System is based on the Germ/Virus Theory of Disease or the One Disease - One Germ or the One Disease - One Virus or the One Disease - One Cure Hypothesis. If our so-called Experts knew that Infection was really Inflammation, then they would stop blaming the microbe and look for the Source of Inflammation, which in most cases, is coming from 1 or 2 or both of our Bathrooms. As long as our so-called Experts still believe in the Germ/Virus Theory of Disease and as long as they still believe these are the Cause and Not the Consequence of Dis-Ease, we will continue to suffer at the hands of Medicine, who are being used by the Powers that Be to keep us Sick and Enslaved!
End of JR Comment.

The LIES taught to Ariel are also reflected in the article below.

Drowning in their own Blood and Fluids…

[www.motherjones.com]
March 21, 2020
A Report From the Coronavirus Frontline: “They Are Essentially Drowning in Their Own Blood.”

...

“It’s called acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS. That means the lungs are filled with fluid. And it’s notable for the way the X-ray looks: The entire lung is basically whited out from fluid. Patients with ARDS are extremely difficult to oxygenate. It has a really high mortality rate, about 40%. The way to manage it is to put a patient on a ventilator. The additional pressure helps the oxygen go into the bloodstream.

...

“Typically with ARDS, the lungs become inflamed. It’s like inflammation anywhere: If you have a burn on your arm, the skin around it turns red from additional blood flow. The body is sending it additional nutrients to heal. The problem is, when that happens in your lungs, fluid and extra blood starts going to the lungs. Viruses [Waste Matter] can injure cells in the walls of the alveoli, so the fluid leaks into the alveoli.

JR Comment: Fluid is NOT leaking into the Alveoli - it’s our own Waste Matter that is NOT getting Filtered and is simply Backing Up - see Fontanels below.
…
“When someone has an infection [FALSE Premise], I’m used to seeing the normal colors you’d associate with it: greens and yellows. The coronavirus patients with ARDS have been having a lot of secretions that are actually pink because they’re filled with blood cells that are leaking into their airways. They are essentially drowning in their own blood and fluids because their lungs are so full. So we’re constantly having to suction out the secretions every time we go into their rooms.”

JR Comment: Our so-called Experts are told that when fluid fills our lungs that it’s Caused by an Infection and are totally oblivious to the Real Cause to most of our Dis-Eases, which is when our own Lymph System is backing up into our tissues because it’s NOT getting filtered and our Body is looking for Alternative Channels of Elimination called Fontanels.

JR Insert from “Fontanels” file…
“If the lungs are used as fontanels (alternative forms of elimination) through which to excrete the excess toxin, the symptom-complex may be named pneumonia. If eruptions appear on the skin, the disease will be named as hives, measles, scarlet fever, or smallpox.” -Herbert Shelton, "Fasting Can Save Your Life" p. 83
End of JR Insert from “Fontanels” file.

Now here is a snippet from my Video - Lessons from the Coronavirus Pandemonium to Prevent Future Global Pandemics - [www.youtube.com] ...

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Once again folks, “The doctor is to be feared more than the disease.” Voltaire long ago said, "Doctors are men who prescribe drugs of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing."

Now it’s gotten even worse. Today, we have like 130 Specialists. You go to your main Doctor, your General Practioner, whatever you want to call them nowadays [Primary Care Physician], and he looks at you and he sends you off to a Specialist - got 130 of these Specialists - and what are they going to do? They’re going to Test you send their Test off to some more Doctors - Pathologists - these are the Doctor’s Doctors - they don’t work with Patients. And then, Doctors - they don’t work with Patients either - they don’t know the Cause - that’s why they don’t know the Cause - they’re looking at the Effects.

Look at the Pathologist. What do you do if you become a Pathologist?

You go looking for Clues.

Remember, there’s 3 Stages of Knowledge, folks.

Thoughts Actions Reactions
Beliefs Causes Effects
Belief System Lifestyle Choices Feedback System
Things we Think in the 1st Stage
Things we Do or have Done to us in the 2nd Stage
Things we Get in the 3rd Stage

If you’re a Pathologist, you look for Clues in the 3rd Stage of Knowledge.

Already, you guys are guilty of what’s known as Modus Ponens - that’s putting the Cart before the Horse for a Problem that’s Within your Control.

[youtu.be]
6:46 MM
So when we use Logic, there’s 2 Tests everyone has to Pass in order to use Logic.

One has to do with the Contents or the Specifics or the Details - that’s a very complicated Test - we Never want to start there, but that’s what they’re going to try to drag us into.

The other Test is the Structure Test, so when we use Logic, we think of it this way is that the Structure Test is like the Railroad Tracks and it’s One Direction - One Way. And then, the Contents - the Specifics - the Details are the Railroad Carts on top. Don’t get Tricked into looking at those - don’t go looking for Logical Fallacies in those - let’s see if the Structure is Valid. It turns out, in the case of our Current Medical System, it’s Invalid, so throw them out right off the bat.

Why?

What do Pathologist do?

They look for Clues in the 3rd Stage of Knowledge - the Effects. And they go, oh my God, look at all of these - they’re Causes.

No, they’re Consequences.

The Viruses - the Consequence.

The Bacteria - the Consequence.

They’re the Cause. Why? Because we can’t say we don’t know all the other times. They’re there at the Scene of the Crime, so to speak, like the Skid Marks are at Car Accidents. According to their thinking, we Blame all of our Car Accidents on the Skid Marks - that’s how Pathologists work.

So Pathologists, the people who Diagnose our Diseases are so far removed from what the patient is doing, even the Doctors, the GP is far removed from the actual patient. Then the Specialist is even one more step far removed. Then you’ve got the Pathologist who actually is the one doing the Diagnosing - they’re one more step far removed. And then, how do they identify this Virus that’s Killing us?

The 2 Tests they use are totally not even inaccurate, but they’re insane to think they work. Using the PCR Test or the Elisa Test whether we’re going to look at Molecular Markers or Antibodies - that’s No Proof the Virus exist. When these “Virus Hunters” went out looking for the Virus, they couldn’t find it, so that’s when they created these Molecular Markers. You got to look at what Pathologists do to actually label you’ve got a Coronavirus. Let’s use the PCR Test. What’s the 1st Stage in the PCR Test?

Well, we can’t see enough of those, so let’s make them, let’s Amplify them, hahaha. First Step, let’s increase the temperature to 94° Celsius - that’s 201.2° Fahrenheit - almost got it to Boiling. Let’s Derange this whole bunch and double the amount of numbers and we’ll keep doing it until we have Billions of them! They’re looking at things that have been Altered to begin with and it’s Not the Virus they’re looking at - it’s what they call this Magical Molecular Marker - it signifies there’s a Virus.

Or we use the amount of Antibodies in your Body. If you’ve got the Antibody, that means you’ve got the Virus!

It’s all Poppy C-o-c-k, folks, and I know how hard that is for the average person to overcome, so when we Challenge our Current Medical System, forget the whole idea whether or not anything’s Contagious. That’s too difficult for the average person to wrap their brain around.

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10:02 MM
Look at these 2 simple Facts - #1 Most of what they’re doing they admit they don’t know and then, #2 Vaccines Never Eradicated anything. I’ve already shown Graphs and I’ll put links down below in a Pinned Comment where you can go to a Website and look at these Vaccine Graphs that Prove that all of those Diseases that were supposedly Eradicated by Vaccines were on a steady decline every decade because we figured out the problem - it was a Plumbing Problem - it was Poor Sanitation - it was Filth - that’s what’s getting us. Either we have too much Filth Inside of us… 10:42 MM

Links to Vaccine Graphs:

Dissolving Illusions - Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History - 51 Graphs - [www.dissolvingillusions.com]

Disease Decline Before Introduction of Immunization - 28 Graphs -
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Absolutely Perfect.

And still the sheeple will not get it..

Hazmats all the time.
Have a good life in your hazmats
That's the IMPLICATION OF YOUR THEORY my little CDC sheeple
While the politicians stand shoulder to shoulder with their military uniforms

Military response to everything!

Tai, please respond.

Medical model
even when it masquerades as alternative cures and potions
is branded on some
Doesn't matter what you say

John Rose
Why do people believe these Butchers and Drug Pushers when they outright LIED about their Vaccines Eradicating all of those so-called Contagious Diseases?

Tai
They are not the same. The butchers, as in surgeons? So doctors and surgeons and pathologists are not the same as vaccine manufacturers. There are some doctors who decide to give up pharmaceutical drugs altogether and instead prescribe nutrition, herbal medicine, nutraceuticals, etc. Now there are some doctors who don't think vaccines are beneficial, so you can't lump everyone into one pile

John Rose
Ariel does NOT understand the Cause of Dis-ease, which is, in most cases, the Lymph System Backing Up into the Body and yet, she even admits that people with “Respiratory Infections” are Drowning in their own Liquid - Inflammation.

Ariel does NOT understand that Bacteria and even the Molecular Markers that our so-called Experts call Viruses are the Consequence of our own Waste Matter Backing Up and NOT the Cause of Dis-ease.

In other words, Ariel is simply repeating what she’s been told in Medical School

Tai
Did you listen to more than one video of hers? She believes in natural hygiene. She practices natural hygiene. She used natural hygiene to heal her body and that's why she is committed to spreading natural hygiene. She even interviewed Doug Graham despite all the past controversy. That's how committed she is to it. So I don't think it's fair for you to say she's just repeating what she was told in medical school. She has her own micron microscope as she calls it and she see viruses doing damage.

What she is suggesting is that pathology and natural hygiene don't conflict in her eyes.

She is surprisingly patient. When I have time, if you and Fresh won't engage her, I will ask her some of these issues you raise. I am very overwhelmed now but these issues WILL be resolved eventually.

No interest.
The two methodologies are irreconcilable and illogical to join

Tai, thanks for taking the time to reply, but you didn’t address anything that I wrote, except for twisting my 2nd question and then, asking me whether I’ve listened to more than one video of hers and yes I have. I’ve watched 5 of her videos, including the one with Doug in its entirety, and I've also created a file on her.

Tai, I numbered most of the points in my Post below chronologically and I hope you can find the time to look into these issues in a little more detail. In fact, if you don’t spend time analyzing what I’ve taken the time to lay out for you and you keep spending time on all of the things I see you looking into, you’re wasting your time because you’re trying to justify using a System that already has an Invalid Structure!

#1 Doctors admit they do NOT know the Cause for about 90% of our Diseases.

Tai - No Relpy.

#2 Vaccines NEVER Eradicated any or all of those so-called Contagious Diseases.

Tai - No Relpy - twisted the question to obviously avoid the Point.

#3 Doctors start with a False Premise - Infections/Germs/Viruses Cause Disease and end up with a FALSE Conclusion - Drug, Vaccines & Surgery.

Tai - No Relpy.

#4 Doctors do NOT study the Concept of Totality - Primary Care Physician - 130 Specialists -13 Pathology Specialists.

Tai - No Relpy.

#5 Ariel starts with a False Premise - Fluid in the Lungs due to Infection.

Tai - No Relpy - asks question and avoids the Point.

#6 Doctors in that Mother Jones article start with a False Premise - Fluid in the Lungs due to Infection.

Tai - No Relpy.

#7 JR Insert from “Fontanels” file to explain Fluid in the Lungs.

Tai - No Relpy.

#8 Pathologists look for Clues in the 3rd Stage of Knowledge and are guilty of Modus Ponens.

Tai - No Relpy.

#9 2 Tests everyone has to Pass in order to use Logic and our Current Medical Systems FAILS the Structure Test because it has an Invalid Structure.

Tai - No Relpy.

#10 What do Pathologist do? They look for Clues in the 3rd Stage of Knowledge - the Effects.

Tai - No Relpy.

Tai wrote,
"She has her own micron microscope as she calls it and she see viruses doing damage."

I've already addressed this...

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]
Re: How many lies like this? Watch before it's taken down
Posted by: John Rose
Date: April 05, 2020 02:11PM

<<<Tai
Or Tai just relies on lab tests and doctors' reports, which is proof enough for most people. But failing that, Chinese medicine has its own diagnostic system.
The raw vegan pathologist who has a micron microscope who has confirmed this coronavirus and see viruses taking over is available for live chat.>>>

Tai, all Areli has done has identified Molecular Markers and Electron Microscopes only show frozen images and NOT the Life Cycle of Viruses, so it is IMPOSSIBLE to "see viruses taking over"!
[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

Or... it is IMPOSSIBLE to "see viruses doing damage"!



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Ok, John, I will answer your questions later when I have time.

THe UK fruit fest posted another coronavirus video by Areli.

Raw Vegan Doctor talks Corona Virus (Clip from Live Webinar)
[www.youtube.com]

She goes over pathology facts and compares them to natural hygiene.
You can start at 22 minutes to hear about TC Fry and HIV

I asked her to go in depth about what she sees viruses do in her micron microscope. I will share if she answers.

Hi, ok she responded to me. Here is her answer.

This is question I asked:
My question to you is can you please share how you know 100% that viruses are contagious and causes damage. In one video you said that you have a micron microscope. Can you share exactly what you see. You gave an example of you seeing HPV causing damage to cells.
I told a natural hygiene raw foodist about your comment and this is what he wrote:
"all Areli has done has identified Molecular Markers and Electron Microscopes only show frozen images and NOT the Life Cycle of Viruses, so it is IMPOSSIBLE to "see viruses taking over"!
Or... it is IMPOSSIBLE to "see viruses doing damage"!
[www.rawfoodsupport.com]
This man making this statement is Fullyraw Kristina's teacher, John Rose.

Dr. Areli wrote:
"I haven’t heard from JR directly and I have no interest in debating someone who thinks that I am misinformed and who doesn’t even know how to spell my name. I am sorry if it sounds rude but I am getting tired of arguing with people who have the philosophy “divide and conquer”. There are many leaders in this movement with some wrong information. It’ll be totally up to the individuals who follow them to believe 100% in their gurus or not.

I've always said it (quoting Gandhi): "Nobody in this world possesses absolute truth". Making assumptions about my capabilities to discern the truth behind my back it only tells you a lot about that person. I have publicly admitted that I do not have all the answers and I will only comment openly on what I am certain of, but science changes, our knowledge expands, so probably in 10 years, our understanding of things will do so too, and to admit that it takes a lot of courage.

I cannot protect everyone from misinformation. I am here making small waves and whoever finds my message and finds benefit, great!

Just to reiterate what you’ve asked me: Viruses exists. Viruses are transmissible from human to human through different sources, especially the dangerous ones (Hepatitis, HIV, ebola, etc through blood, body fluids, transfusions, and vectors). Mild viruses like the flu and all the coronas are airborne and their virulence factors are different according to their strains.

I’ve seen nano-particles of viruses under electron microscopy myself. You can find them too, just google "rabies virus in a neuron, electron microscopy" or any other virus. I’ve seen the cytopathic effects of viruses in epithelial cells under my own microscope like the ones caused by herpes, CMV and HPV.

I just have no energies to debate John. Why he doesn't comment on here? why all in a closed group saying that I "regurgitate" everything I've been taught in medical school? I understand the sentiment of the people towards the medical system; however, I believe in joining efforts rather than generating more division.

I've seen how all these social media battles work: at the end, people will believe what they want to believe based on their personal biases or preferences regardless if it’s me, or anybody else with some type of “credentials” who comes and proves them wrong. For some, it seems like the fact of me having many degrees from the medical system is a red flag (unfortunately).

I have nothing against juicing, but juicing is not going to save anyone's life if somebody gets hit by a car and requires emergency surgery. What about patients with DM1, there are some raw-vegans like Robby Barbaro who still uses recombinant insulin to help his condition.

Modern medicine is not always the enemy. Not all doctors are puppets. I have peace of mind knowing that I am doing what I can to educate people to change their lifestyles taking time out of my personal life to spread the message.

I have not received a cent out of what I do and I am not a saint for doing so. I like what I do and try to spread the truth as much as I can, but I don't consider myself a guru and I am not retired or live of my "consulting services" to make more videos.

I wish I had more time, but I just don't. And I pick my battles. Thank you for understanding for your support though. Keep researching and please draw your own conclusions. Love, Areli

[www.youtube.com]



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Tai, you and Areli have a lot in common. Both of you guys read my post and did NOT even respond to the points I brought up. When I pointed that out to you, all you did is reply with Areli’s response and all she did, once again, is reiterate what she’s been told in Medical School.

In contrast, let’s take a look at a doctor who knows that he’s been misinformed because he’s read “Murder by Injection - The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America” by Eustace Mullins and he is NOT afraid to admit that he’s been DUPED/MISINFORMED!

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Now this is a specific type of Vesicle that will end up merging with the Cell Membrane at the surface under certain conditions and release these Exosomes out into the Extracellular Fluid [JR: Lymph Fluid] and they’ll get into the Circulation and be distributed around the Body. 17:38 MM

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17:38 MM
So while they’re Inside the Cell, they’re called MVEs, which stands for Multi Vesicular Endosomes. So in other words, they have a bunch of Exosomes or Vesicles Inside of them. And they release them on a regular basis just day to day and there are many things, though, that can induce this process and accelerate it and increase the number of Exosomes that it releases Outside of the Cell. And so, these Exosomes leave the Cell and you see they have these little squares on them and these little squares are like a Lock and what they do is they go around the Body through the Circulation and they’re looking for the Right Key to fit their Lock and that’s called the Target Cell. 18:23 MM

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18:48 MM
So here on the left this is an Electron Micrograph or a picture from an Electron Microscope of Exosomes and you can see here an Exosome budding Out of the Cell and it’s essentially a spherical or circular, this is a cross-section, so this is a slice of the Tissue where on the periphery, there are like these kind of globular densities or little dots or circles, right? And Inside the Cell here where it says MVB, these are the same as MVEs, that’s where all of these Exosomes are when they’re Inside the Cell before they bud out, OK?

And now we have a picture on the right, which allegedly shows this COVID-19 Virus and you can see that there are these Vesicles budding out of the Cell in a circular shape with the globular dots on the periphery, so essentially, it’s the same thing. 19:48 MM

[youtu.be]
21:34 MM
So now we have a series of 2 Comparison Photographs under Electron Microscope of the Virus and an Exosome Outside the Cell and Virus and MVE Inside the Cell and you can see that they are identical in appearance. 21:52 MM

Now why is it so hard for some people to admit they don’t know they’ve been misinformed?

Well, we have to remember that everyone, especially scientists, has “knowledge filters” on their brains so that when any new knowledge comes along that threatens their existing paradigm, they filter it out. This is what Dr. Richard Thompson said about “knowledge filters.”

“This is a fundamental feature of science, it’s also a fundamental feature of human nature. People tend to filter out things that don’t fit, that don’t make sense in their terms of their paradigm or their way of thinking. So, in science you find that evidence that doesn’t fit the excepted paradigm tends to be eliminated - it’s not taught, it’s not discussed and people who are educated in scientific teachings generally don’t even know about it. ... It’s not necessarily a deliberate conspiracy in the sense of some people getting together in a smoke filled room and saying we’re going to deceive people. It’s something that happens automatically within the scientific community. So, when a given piece of evidence disagrees with the predominate theory, then automatically people won’t talk about it, they won’t report it and that means that science fails to progress in the way that one would hope.”

It’s also important to understand that doctors are NOT scientists, although, they like to think they are. The whole Medical System is based on Antiquated Bad Science and Bad Testing. Areli should be ashamed for not even considering what I wrote and has the audacity to say that it’s irresponsible to say Viruses don’t exist. In reality, a Virus has never been Proven to exist that Causes Disease and if it doesn’t exist, it certainly cannot Kill anyone.

Here is a snippet from my file on Areli, which includes some of my notes I took on one of her videos followed by my comment.

[youtu.be]
6:34 MM
And for those of you who are believing in all these Conspiracy Theories, because I’m aware of all of them guys, but I think it’s irresponsible from me to tell you it’s true, you know, Population Control, Vaccinations Mandatory, all the things that you believe and that you suspect, which, you know, is normal, it’s normal because we haven’t seen this before, all of these things I’m aware of, but let me tell you something that a Medical Doctor, you know, with her understanding but also being not so much Mainstream, someone that actually knows a little bit of other things, in my opinion and not my opinion I can tell you for sure - this is a Real Virus. It’s happening, OK? It’s true, there is a Virus in the Air. What I don’t want you to do is to panic, right? 7:28 MM

JR Comment: Areli is NOT as aware as she thinks she is because she’s missing the Biggest Conspiracy of them all - the Medical Conspiracy! Read “Murder by Injection - The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America” by Eustace Mullins.

I’ve posted this forward before, but it’s worth posting again for Areli’s benefit.

The couple in the video below with Dr. Andrew Kaufman has thousands of hours of research on this subject and wrote an 800 page book on the BOGUS Germ Theory. Since I too have tens of thousands of hours of research on this subject, this couple goes over a lot of things I have found and there is NO doubt in my mind that the Powers that Be are using Doctors as their Primary Agents to CONTROL the Masses - see Forward by Eustace Mullins below. I don’t post this for the benefit of those who want to remain in FEAR, but for those who want to Escape the Matrix.

The Real Science of Germs: Do Viruses Cause Disease?
[www.youtube.com]

The Foreword to "MURDER BY INJECTION" by EUSTACE MULLINS should be mandatory reading for every person on this planet!

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MURDER BY INJECTION
The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America
By EUSTACE MULLINS
The National Council for Medical Research
P.O. Box 1105
Staunton, Virginia 24401
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MURDER BY INJECTION
The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America
First Edition
Library of Congress Card Catalog No. 88-060694
Copyright © 1988
Eustace Mullins
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Contents
1. The Medical Monopoly 1
2. Quacks on Quackery 13
3. The Profits of Cancer 59
4. Death and Vaccination 129
5. The Fluoridation Conspiracy .148
6. Whither AIDS 169
7. The Action of Fertilizers 187
8. Contamination of the Food Supply 204
9. The Drug Trust 226
10. The Rockefeller Syndicate 310

Foreword

The present work, the result of some forty years of investigative research, is a logical progression from my previous books: the expose of the international control of monetary issue and banking practices in the United States; a later work revealing the secret network of organizations through which these alien forces wield political power—the secret committees, foundations, and political parties through which their hidden plans are implemented; and now; to the most vital issue of all, the manner in which these depredations affect the daily lives and health of American citizens. Despite the great power of the hidden rulers, I found that only one group has the power to issue life or death sentences to any American—our nation's physicians.

I discovered that these physicians, despite their great power, were themselves subjected to very strict controls over every aspect of their professional lives. These controls, surprisingly enough, were not wielded by any state or federal agency, although almost every other aspect of American life is now under the absolute control of the bureaucracy. The physicians have their own autocracy, a private trade association, the American Medical Association. This group, which is headquartered in Chicago, Illinois, had gradually built up its power until it assumed total control over medical schools and the accreditation of physicians.

The trail of these manipulators led me straight to the same lairs of the international conspirators whom I had exposed in previous books. I knew that they had already looted America, reduced its military power to a dangerously low level, and imposed bureaucratic controls on every American. I now discovered that their conspiracies also directly affected the health of every American. This conspiracy has resulted in a documented decline in the health of our citizens. We now rank far down the list of civilized nations in infant mortality and other significant medical statistics. I was able to document the shocking record of these cold-blooded tycoons who not only plan and carry out famines, economic depressions, revolutions and wars, but who also find their greatest profits in their manipulations of our medical care. The cynicism and malice of these conspirators is something beyond the imagination of most Americans. They deliberately mulct our people of millions of dollars each year through "charitable" organizations and then use these same organizations as key groups to bolster their Medical Monopoly. Fear and intimidation are the basic techniques by which the conspirators maintain their control over all aspects of our health care, as they ruthlessly crush any competitor who challenges their profits. As in other aspects of their "behavioural control" over the American people, their most constantly used weapon against us is their employment of federal agents and federal agencies to carry out their intrigues. The proof of this operation may be the most disturbing revelation of my work.

Eustace Mullins
February 22, 1988

The bottom line is that Areli seems to have good intentions, especially about minimizing all of the FEAR that is used to herd us into the Medical Corral, but due to her Ignorance about Viruses and Vaccines, she’s doing the EXACT OPPOSITE because nothing generates more FEAR than Viruses and the Contagion Myth.

Btw, I watched some of that video you posted from Areli, Raw Vegan Doctor talks Corona Virus, and she still believes that Vaccines are Effective and that Vaccines have Eradicated Diseases. She even admits that she’s not sure and that there’s a lot of data to analyze and a lot of things to consider, but since she’s so new to this, she took the only Disease that Vaccines supposedly Eradicated that was due to DDT and NOT Poor Sanitation and thinks “Polio was actually happening because of Bad Hygiene Conditions” - see below.

[youtu.be]
42:16 MM
But I’m not saying with this that Vaccines are ineffective. There’s a lot of controversy and myself, I’m not entirely sure what will be the right answer because one part of me tells me that Vaccines have been effective, you know, Polio has been eradicated because of Vaccines, etc., but I’ve been reading other stuff that says, you know, Polio was actually happening because of Bad Hygiene Conditions. So a lot of data to analyze, a lot of things to consider, but what I can tell you is that Mandatory Vaccinations out of this Pandemic is not going to happen. 42:48 MM

Areli wrote, “I have no interest in debating someone who thinks that I am misinformed ... I just have no energies to debate John.”

Debates Are for Losers - [www.youtube.com]

Areli, I have NO desire to debate you or anyone else, but PLEASE stop spreading LIES that Vaccines are Effective and that Viruses Cause Disease. I’m confident that if you keep researching this, you’ll come to the same conclusion everyone else has, unless you Shut Off Your Frontal Lobe and Run to Denial.

Cognitive Dissonance, Normalcy Bias & Unrealistic Optimism - Fear No Evil - Part 2 - [www.youtube.com]



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I am sorry if it sounds rude but I am getting tired of arguing with people who have the philosophy “divide and conquer”.

I've always said it (quoting Gandhi): "Nobody in this world possesses absolute truth".

I understand the sentiment of the people towards the medical system; however, I believe in joining efforts rather than generating more DIVISION.

Ummm, that's what I've been saying over and over. She must have brought those up for a REASON! An outsider sees the same character flaws, hmmmmmmmm.



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"MY BELIEF HAS TO BE RIGHT OR ELSE I"LL BE EMOTIONALLY DESTROYED, I HAVE TO BE RIGHT!!! (FEAR)"

Nunativs

Put that in a pinned post so we can continually be reminded of your wisdom
That comes without investigation.

Who do you think you're convincing?

Time waster

nn wrote,
"MY BELIEF HAS TO BE RIGHT OR ELSE I"LL BE EMOTIONALLY DESTROYED, I HAVE TO BE RIGHT!!! (FEAR)"

I've notice over the years that you do, indeed, have this tendency and it's sure great to see that you are finally acknowledging your flaws.

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]
Re: Is Getting Angry The Best Way to Get Motivated?
Posted by: John Rose
Date: February 08, 2016 05:33PM

TSM wrote:

<<<…l don't need to live in order to try and prove a point. …Rising above and beyond the need to win an argument and prove a point…>>>

Indeed, most people have a Need to be Right, however, I have a Desire to be Right, which is the reason why I engage in discussions in hopes to find an ERROR in my thinking or to fine-tune and tweak my Message.

For example, one of the things I came away with this discussion is that I now have 3 Ways in which Religion and Spirituality are being used against the Masses. Before this discussion I had Born of Sin and everyone has Good in them and now, I’ve added “Don’t get Angry”!

Here is part of an Audio Tape I made yesterday reflecting some of my thoughts:

Per Audio Tape JR# C-35 - 10:56 made 2-07-16:

Another way Spirituality is used against us is when we’ve been Tricked into believing Not to get Angry and yet, the Rulers of the World know that most of us won’t do anything unless we Do get Angry.
...

STRAWMAN

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Nunativs

Put that in a pinned post so we can continually be reminded of your wisdom
That comes without investigation.

Who do you think you're convincing?

Time waster

I think JR should have all of his cut and paste posts pinned near the top so WE don't have to do so much scrolling to get to the NEW material...(Oh wait, there isn't anything NEW?!?)



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Tai, did you WATCH the Video clip by Dr. Andrew Kaufman in my last post to you - see below?

You have to SEE these 2 Comparison Photographs under an Electron Microscope to understand the "UNOFFICIAL" Version of Viruses - NOT the "OFFICIAL" Version given to those who have NO ANSWERS for MOST of our Illnesses and are the #1 Cause of Death in American - see Death by Medicine.

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17:18 MM
Now this is a specific type of Vesicle that will end up merging with the Cell Membrane at the surface under certain conditions and release these Exosomes out into the Extracellular Fluid [JR: Lymph Fluid] and they’ll get into the Circulation and be distributed around the Body. 17:38 MM

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17:38 MM
So while they’re Inside the Cell, they’re called MVEs, which stands for Multi Vesicular Endosomes. So in other words, they have a bunch of Exosomes or Vesicles Inside of them. And they release them on a regular basis just day to day and there are many things, though, that can induce this process and accelerate it and increase the number of Exosomes that it releases Outside of the Cell. And so, these Exosomes leave the Cell and you see they have these little squares on them and these little squares are like a Lock and what they do is they go around the Body through the Circulation and they’re looking for the Right Key to fit their Lock and that’s called the Target Cell. 18:23 MM

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18:48 MM
So here on the left this is an Electron Micrograph or a picture from an Electron Microscope of Exosomes and you can see here an Exosome budding Out of the Cell and it’s essentially a spherical or circular, this is a cross-section, so this is a slice of the Tissue where on the periphery, there are like these kind of globular densities or little dots or circles, right? And Inside the Cell here where it says MVB, these are the same as MVEs, that’s where all of these Exosomes are when they’re Inside the Cell before they bud out, OK?

And now we have a picture on the right, which allegedly shows this COVID-19 Virus and you can see that there are these Vesicles budding out of the Cell in a circular shape with the globular dots on the periphery, so essentially, it’s the same thing. 19:48 MM

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21:34 MM
So now we have a series of 2 Comparison Photographs under Electron Microscope of the Virus and an Exosome Outside the Cell and Virus and MVE Inside the Cell and you can see that they are identical in appearance. 21:52 MM

Btw, my view of our Medical System has nothing to do with Divide & Conquer. Areli said, “I am getting tired of arguing with people who have the philosophy “divide and conquer.” This isn't the Old vs the Young or the Men vs the Women or the Christians vs the Muslims or the Whites vs the Blacks or Browns or whatever, which is what the Powers that Be use to Control the Masses - my view of our Medical System has to do with the Ultimate Tool of Control - our Health or more specifically, our Lack of Health. The last thing the Powers that Be want is to Divide & Conquer our Corrupt, Incompetent Medical System without which the Powers that Be could not exist and I realize how hard this is going to be for Areli to except. I realize that she has taken this personally, but she has to realize how her Profession is used to KEEP us SICK & POOR!!!

One more thing Tai, you didn't help by calling me a Natural Hygienist, although, I'm sure you didn't mean to misrepresent me. Everyone knows Natural Hygienists are anal.

After you guys WATCH Dr. Kaufman, so you can SEE what the rest of us are saying, watch my video - 3 Ways to Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect - [www.youtube.com] where I show the Flaws in Natural Hygiene, Allopathic Medicine, as well as the vast majority of people.

PS Please pass this Post, as well as my Post above, on to Areli because she is HARMING a lot of people with her Ignorance and she's also judging me without even knowing my Philosophy. No one says things the way I say it, no one says 5 Main Mistakes or 2 Groups of Needs, for example, nor do they have a Special Teaching Tool to put it all together. I also don't want to debate her, but I'll share my Knowledge with her as you know I have with you. You should also know by now Tai that I don't care what anyone says about me, as I simply consider the source, but I will defend the TRUTH as I see it and I am more than willing to accept any and all of my Errors in Fact and Logic and the latter is where our Current Medical System comes up short as it Fails the Structure Test in Logic and in Latin, it's called Modus Ponens, which none of you guys addressed!

Also be sure to read the Forward to “Murder by Injection - The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America” by Eustace Mullins



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HI John, I appreciate your reply. I will look at all those things later. I have a very challenging week. I forwarded your response to Dr. Areli.

I thought you were a Natural Hygienist. Oops.

I think Dr. Areli's had enough now. She said she doesn't have time for it all. She's going to start getting irritated now. Just my impression ...

Labels are not very helpful
If John agrees with 95% of natural hygiene that means he is a natural hygienist?

or is he not?

if someone eats 99% raw food are they are raw foodist or not?

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Labels are not very helpful
If John agrees with 95% of natural hygiene that means he is a natural hygienist?

or is he not?

if someone eats 99% raw food are they are raw foodist or not?

If all he talks about is raw food, raw food, and a bit about Sunshine, exercise and that's about it, he's pretty much Natural Hygiene ala Shelton, TC Fry. No mention of other healing modalities, like TCM, Ayurveda, emotions, Nature, American Indian, it's all about raw food ( which isn't food in WILD Nature) and juice fasting.

The INHS has pretty much seen the dismal results of the hygiene viewpoint to where they warn against it and lean towards Native Nutrition and caution heavily against any form of veganism.

The raw vegan "theory" started way back in the 1800's in Germany, see "Children of the Sun", and hardly anyone has cracked 100+ years of age following it. Longevity speaks TRUTH. That which is hardy and robust remains, like a 5000+ year old Sequoia.

Read the book "Primitive Man", the accounts of the "primitive" peoples are like science fiction...

(((Crickets)))
(for a reason)

RAWVEGANDOCTOR
Thank you. It seems like JR reads my replies here ( Hi JR!) - but why does he post about me making inferences about my knowledge and beliefs or the reach of my understanding of things, in a website that I just came about to know because of you? ... not nice! If I want someone to take a different look at reality, I will PM them IF I really cared. Again, I am not interested in being a protagonist, a saviour, or to prove him wrong. And now he's spelling my name correctly (not that it matters but it's appreciated). Re: the link you just shared, I briefly scrolled through the thread and will take a look at Dr Kaufman's videos later but I am honestly not interested getting into this battle that I wasn't even invited to. I appreciate your trust in my knowledge though. At the end of the day, you will believe what you want to believe, no offence and that's totally fine with me. I have zero interest in proving somebody else's right or wrong, especially JR. I think he's doing more good than harm, but he has biases just like everybody else (me included).

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(((Crickets)))
(for a reason)

you don't even know the relative input of genetics and diet etc on longevity.
apparently to you, great diet will invariably lead to long life. rubbish.

stop being obnoxious and talking nonsense and you will get less crickets.



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RAWVEGANDOCTOR
Thank you. It seems like JR reads my replies here ( Hi JR!) - but why does he post about me making inferences about my knowledge and beliefs or the reach of my understanding of things, in a website that I just came about to know because of you? ... not nice! If I want someone to take a different look at reality, I will PM them IF I really cared. Again, I am not interested in being a protagonist, a saviour, or to prove him wrong. And now he's spelling my name correctly (not that it matters but it's appreciated). Re: the link you just shared, I briefly scrolled through the thread and will take a look at Dr Kaufman's videos later but I am honestly not interested getting into this battle that I wasn't even invited to. I appreciate your trust in my knowledge though. At the end of the day, you will believe what you want to believe, no offence and that's totally fine with me. I have zero interest in proving somebody else's right or wrong, especially JR. I think he's doing more good than harm, but he has biases just like everybody else (me included).

typical "i don't want to get into it"
as soon as opinions challenged with inconvenient facts
that way no need to change one's view. ego.

fresh, I refuse e=to believe you are that naive and brain dead?!?
PLEASE prove me right!!!!

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fresh, I refuse e=to believe you are that naive and brain dead?!?
PLEASE prove me right!!!!

once again you're not making any sense.

vague

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