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Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 07, 2020 10:25PM

Gee, I wonder why you never hear about the fact that Nursing Home Coronavirus Deaths make up a large percentage of the Total Coronavirus Deaths ... oh, that wouldn't fit the narrative that the World has to be in Lockdown/Shutdown/Marshall Law because the Population at Large is keeling over left, right and center when the truth is that probably about one-fourth of the Deaths are Contained in Nursing Homes - so why are we shutting down The Public Square?

So in France - At least (the count is not completed) 3,237 Nursing Home Deaths out of about 10,328 in all of France! What's that - like One-Third of Deaths from Nursing Homes. Duh! So France killed itself because old people who live in Nursing Homes are dying of Coronavirus! Yeah, that makes sense ...

France's coronavirus death toll passes 10,000 after a steep rise at nursing homes

[www.france24.com]

"France officially registered more than 10,000 deaths from coronavirus infections on Tuesday, becoming the fourth country to go beyond that threshold after Italy, Spain and the United States.

The total death toll from Covid-19 rose to 10,328 from 8,911 on Monday, Jérôme Salomon, head of the public health authority, told a press conference, warning that "the epidemic is continuing its progression."

Salomon said 7,091 fatalities have been recorded at French hospitals since March 1. A further 3,237 people have died at care homes for the elderly, he added, giving a much higher figure than reported on Monday.

He stressed that the latter count was still partial, with some nursing homes yet to report."

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Oops, I meant to post this in Other Topics, but I guess it was meant to be here.



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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 07, 2020 10:54PM

Holy Cow! I just found this Article!

884 Hidden Deaths Are Revealed, and More to Come

A tragedy is unfolding in the world’s nursing homes that’s only partly being accounted for in official data.


[www.bloomberg.com]

In one day last week, France’s official death toll from Covid-19 rose by a staggering 1,355. The cause was not just the severity and speed of a coronavirus disease that has infected more than 1 million people and killed 50,000 around the world, but also the brutality of fresh data. The new tally included 884 deaths in nursing homes that had gone uncounted since the start of the crisis.

While that should stoke concerns over the quality of the statistics the general public and policy makers are poring over every day — and on the likely under-counting of deaths — it should also alert us to an unfolding tragedy happening on the pandemic’s front lines. It’s not just hospitals that need help, but all institutions that care for the frail and infirm.

The numbers trickling in point to a sizable number of virus victims who are dying away from hospitals.

The latest count shows that nursing homes account for about one in four Covid-19 deaths IN FRANCE, or 2,189 out of 8,078 total.

There are similar stories all over the world, though differences in reporting methodology make it hard to build a full picture.

IN NEW YORK CITY, one in four Covid-19 deaths is in a nursing home.

The Life Care Center IN WASHINGTON STATE at one point accounted for more than half of the national U.S. death toll, according to media reports.

As of last week, approximately a third of SPANISH Covid-19 deaths came from nursing homes.


In Italy, one study estimated that of nursing home residents in the Lombardy region who died since Feb. 1, half either had the virus or its symptoms.

It’s clear that these centers are painfully vulnerable to the new coronavirus because of the age and underlying health conditions of their residents. A multi-country analysis of virus-related deaths shows the over-60s, over-70s and over-80s are most at risk. In France, the average age in homes is 85, while in the U.S., more than two-thirds of residents are over 75.

The use of lockdowns in many countries to limit the spread of the virus — often due to a lack of testing resources — has also turned the concept of the care home on its head. Not only are they vectors of infection, but they’ve become prisons too, with many residents confined to their rooms and carers reduced to the role of enforcers. Families the world over are being cut off from their elderly relatives, sick or well. Heart-wrenching loneliness, the deepest fear of nursing home residents, is now prescribed as preventive medicine. We are reminded daily of what doctor and author Atul Gawande described in his book “Being Mortal” as the choice facing us as we age: “Yielding all control over our lives” to be kept safe in a home, or “going down with the volcano” to live freely, yet at greater risk.

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 07, 2020 11:00PM

Again no virus needed to explain any of those deaths

Positive test
Treatment
Other factors
fear
Isolation

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 07, 2020 11:44PM

"Nursing homes residents account for one-third of COVID19 deaths IN BELGIUM."

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IN COLORADO:

Deaths of at least 32 Colorado nursing home, senior living center residents linked to coronavirus

[coloradosun.com]

The deaths of at least 32 residents of nursing homes and senior living centers in Colorado have been linked to the new coronavirus, including six fatalities at one Greeley facility and four at one in Littleton, The Colorado Sun has learned.

That is NEARLY ONE-THIRD of all coronavirus-related deaths IN COLORADO, where at least 112 people had died in the pandemic through Friday.

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IN VIRGINIA out of 63 Coronavirus Deaths, 32 were at one Nursing Home in Henrico. So one-half of the Total Coronavirus Deaths in Virginia are Nursing Home Deaths

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 07, 2020 11:54PM

So last year how many died due to covid18 in those nursing homes?

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: April 08, 2020 12:15AM

Ya all those elders decided to commit fear induced suicide together.

"there is no virus, there is no virus, there is no virus"...

(I'm plugging my ears so don't try and talk to me).

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 08, 2020 12:20AM

Ummm, idk.

Is your point that - how many died last year due to The Flu? (So maybe it was about the same number who died of The Flu last year as died this year of Coronavirus?) Or - How many died last year in those nursing homes, just as a count of how many died? (So meaning it was about the same number who just died last year as that died of Coronavirus this year?) And all that means is that because The Germ Theory is False, there's no such thing as 'dying from Coronavirus'?

Or was that not a test, just a joke - 'Covid-18'. I feel like I'm on shaky ground with this False Germ Theory theorem. Has the False Germ Theory been proven to be true? Or you can't prove a negative.

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: April 08, 2020 12:28AM

Go research about how many hospital workers and law enforcement are coming down with this imaginary disease. Coincidence? No, they are getting hit with a large viral load, more than most, PLUS are in extreme FEAR which compromises the immune system. Wolfe said these contagions basically read your thoughts and LIVE on FEAR. That sounds plausible if you look at the numbers...

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 08, 2020 12:36AM

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NuNativs
Go research about how many hospital workers and law enforcement are coming down with this imaginary disease. Coincidence? No, they are getting hit with a large viral load, more than most, PLUS are in extreme FEAR which compromises the immune system. Wolfe said these contagions basically read your thoughts and LIVE on FEAR. That sounds plausible if you look at the numbers...


Hmmm, isn't that sort of like what Fresh is saying - It depends on what condition your condition is in.

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: April 08, 2020 12:46AM

No fresh says there is NO virus, I believe there is, but am OPEN. Yet, there is way too much accelerated death to say that something isn't "normal". My point of contention is whether or not the virus was accidental from eating bat soup or some such, or whether it was a plan-demic and much more sinister...?



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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 08, 2020 02:56AM

More Nursing Home Coronavirus Death statistics:

IN PHILADELPHIA:

PHILADELPHIA (KYW Newsradio) — More than a third of the city’s deaths from COVID-19 have taken place in long-term care facilities. One Philadelphia man talks about moving out of a nursing home a month ago and now seeing his friends pass away.

[kywnewsradio.radio.com]

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 08, 2020 03:20AM

I think I've only said it about 50 times

you will not ever get it unless you read rappoport he has researched the last 10 phony virus scares

Ebola zika bird flu swine flu etc etc

they are so transparently lies if you look clearly

They are way easier to understand than this one, you dig??

you will not see this easily
unless you see those I don't know how many times I have to say it

and it literally does not matter if there is a virus or not even if there is it is not proven by anyone anywhere to be causing disease or death

it is is assumed

even if it is viral load that is not primary cause it does not matter

secondary causes do not matter primary cause is people are sick all over the world with junk inside their body it's called toxemia look it up


Sick people plus treatments equals

Maybe they recover
Maybe they don't

No virus necessary to explain

No medical examiner saying death due to virus anywhere

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: April 08, 2020 04:15AM

You can say it 100's of times, people in nursing homes and the workers thereof are dying at unprecedented rates. Denial does NOT make it TRUTH...

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 25, 2020 12:40AM

Finally, there's a statistic for how many Nursing Home Coronavirus Deaths there have been so far in the US -

11,000 deaths: Ravaged nursing homes plead for more testing

[foxillinois.com]

NEW YORK (AP) — After two months and more than 11,000 deaths that have made the nation's nursing homes some of the most terrifying places to be during the coronavirus crisis, most of them still don't have access to enough tests to help control outbreaks among their frail, elderly residents.

That became clear in some of the nation's biggest nursing home outbreaks. After a home in Brooklyn reported 55 coronavirus deaths last week, its CEO acknowledged it was based entirely on symptoms and educated guesses the dead had COVID-19 because they were unable to actually test any of the residents or staff.

At a nursing home in suburban Richmond, Virginia, that has so far seen 49 deaths, the medical director said testing of all residents was delayed nearly two weeks because of a shortage of testing supplies and bureaucratic requirements.

While the federal government promised this week to start tracking and publicly releasing nursing home infections and deaths, which could help identify hotspots, that work was only beginning. In the meantime, The AP's own tally from state health departments and media reports put the count at 10,217 deaths from outbreaks in nursing homes and long-term care facilities nationwide. About a third of those are in New York.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has described COVID-19 in nursing homes as "fire through dry grass," said he would ideally like to see any resident, staffer or visitor seeking to enter a nursing home take a rapid test that would come back in 20 minutes.

(The rest of the article is about the stupid 'test')

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So 11,000 of the 52,000 'Supposed' Coronavirus Deaths in the US are Nursing Home Patients. And the blame goes squarely to the Petty Tyrant Governors of the States for not protecting the elderly patients in the nursing homes and not properly managing coronavirus in nursing homes.

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Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 25, 2020 12:50AM

Yup they're dying alright

Unprecedented

600,000 people die in nursing homes
every year in the United states

Is there any factual information that will stop the incessant
Virus Media frenzy driven false statements?

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 25, 2020 01:07AM

Mark Levin now talking about the Nursing Home Scandal -

[player.listenlive.co]

Oops, sorry, he's not talking about the nursing homes/Cuomo right now, but he will later.



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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 25, 2020 02:49AM

New York kills 300 people who would have most likely lived if they just stayed home.......

data from New York's largest health system shows that nearly all coronavirus patients who were placed on a ventilator to help them breathe did not survive.

Published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the study examined electronic health records of 5,700 patients with coronavirus who were treated between March 1 and April 4 at Northwell Health, a major health system with 12 hospitals located in New York City, Long Island and Westchester County.

Of the 2,634 patients whose final outcomes were known, about 20 percent of those with COVID-19 died. Of the 320 patients who required a ventilator, 88 percent died.

The study — which is the largest analysis of hospitalized coronavirus patients thus far — also looked at the demographics of ill patients and how underlying conditions may have contributed to the severity of the virus.

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 25, 2020 03:01AM

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fresh

Yup they're dying alright

Unprecedented

600,000 people die in nursing homes
every year in the United states


Is there any factual information that will stop the incessant
Virus Media frenzy driven false statements?

Didn't know that!

Here's a New York Times article about the Nursing Home Scandal - only a month late on reporting the scam - Nursing Homes begging the State to not send Coronavirus patients to them.

Again Cuomo Lies and says he didn't know about the Rule that Nursing Homes must accept Coronavirus patients - although he's the person who implemented the edict!

‘Playing Russian Roulette’: Nursing Homes Told to Take the Infected

[www.nytimes.com]

California, New Jersey and New York have made nursing homes accept Covid-19 patients from hospitals. Residents and workers fear the policy is risking lives.

Four new patients recently arrived from the hospital with Covid-19. They were admitted for one reason, according to staff members: A state guideline says nursing homes cannot refuse to take patients from hospitals solely because they have the coronavirus.

The disease caused by the virus has killed more than 10,500 residents and staff members at nursing homes and long-term care facilities nationwide, according to a New York Times analysis. That is nearly a quarter of deaths in the United States from the pandemic. On Saturday, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York described nursing homes as a “feeding frenzy for this virus.”

But states are increasingly turning to nursing homes to relieve the burden on hospitals and take in Covid-19 patients considered stable enough to be released.

At the epicenter of the outbreak, New York issued a strict new rule last month: Nursing homes must readmit residents sent to hospitals with the coronavirus and accept new patients as long as they are deemed “medically stable.” California and New Jersey have also said that nursing homes should take in such patients. Homes are allowed to turn patients away if they claim they can’t care for them safely — but administrators say they worry that refusing patients could provoke regulatory scrutiny, and advocates say it could result in a loss of revenue.

Beth Martino, spokeswoman for the American Health Care Association, which represents nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, said her association had heard that a number of states were considering measures similar to those in California, New Jersey and New York.

“Whoever made this decision, whoever did this, I consider this a sentence of death for all the older patients, whoever is in a nursing home,” he said.

Asked about admissions of Covid-19 patients in light of nursing-home deaths at a briefing on Monday, Mr. Cuomo seemed unaware of the state rule. “It’s a good question,” he said. “I don’t know.”

On Thursday, Mr. Cuomo reiterated that nursing homes had to accept the patients — but only, he clarified, if they could do so safely. Homes unable to comply should transfer them to other facilities or notify the state Health Department, he said.

The department, responding to questions from The Times, said that nursing homes were not permitted to discriminate against Covid-19 patients, but that they should avoid taking patients if not “medically prepared.” Mr. Zucker said on Thursday that he did not know of any homes in that position.

Richard Mollot, executive director of the Long Term Care Community Coalition in New York, an advocacy group for residents, said he had heard of several nursing homes that had declined. But the vast majority, he said, have a “tremendous financial incentive” to take in new patients.

While the rule is still in effect, Mr. Jacobson said he was heartened by the governor’s remarks on Thursday and hoped nursing homes ill equipped to handle Covid-19 patients would reject them.

Connecticut and Massachusetts both set aside facilities to care for Covid-19 patients. One in Connecticut started accepting patients from hospitals last week.

Nursing homes in Massachusetts are also being asked to take coronavirus patients, but only if they verify that they have adequate staff and protective gear and can isolate the infected. In return, those homes will collect 15 percent more in reimbursements for every Medicaid patient.

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Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 25, 2020 03:14AM

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fresh
New York kills 300 people who would have most likely lived if they just stayed home.......

data from New York's largest health system shows that nearly all coronavirus patients who were placed on a ventilator to help them breathe did not survive.

Published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the study examined electronic health records of 5,700 patients with coronavirus who were treated between March 1 and April 4 at Northwell Health, a major health system with 12 hospitals located in New York City, Long Island and Westchester County.

Of the 2,634 patients whose final outcomes were known, about 20 percent of those with COVID-19 died. Of the 320 patients who required a ventilator, 88 percent died.

The study — which is the largest analysis of hospitalized coronavirus patients thus far — also looked at the demographics of ill patients and how underlying conditions may have contributed to the severity of the virus.


There are so many Outrages about this Corona-Scam! The Ventilator Deaths is another Outrage. This whole thing is a Sh*tshow!

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 25, 2020 03:53AM

Um...yeah.
Like I said

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And indeed, this week, the Veterans Administration reported on a retrospective study it conducted, that found COVID-19 patients who had been treated with hydroxychloroquine had a significantly higher death rate than those who had not. But that was not a randomized clinical trial, so it may be too soon to write the treatment off.

Wait for it
Hydroxychloroquine hasn't been proven effective at fighting other lethal coronaviruses that invade the respiratory system. Unfortunately, the malaria drug has been shown to cause abnormal heart rhythms that lead to fainting, seizures, and sometimes death.

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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: April 25, 2020 04:54AM

About 3 million people die each year in the USA, from all causes. This is less than 1% (0.85%). That 600,000 people die in nursing home each year is not a big deal, as they people are near the end of their lives anyway. If they were living at home, they would have been in the dying at home statistic instead of the dying in a nursing home statistic.

While people who are sick are loaded with pathogenic germs or viruses, they bugs do not cause the disease, but rather the internal terrain causes the disease. The microbes are opportunistic and vital scavengers, and viruses are the remains of cellular death.

There have been conspiracy theories that in China, and in NYC, that seniors were being purposely killed to clear out nursing homes for the real estate. This could be true, but just as easily could be just theory.


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Re: Nursing Homes Coronavirus Death Statistics are Non-Existent
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 25, 2020 05:24AM

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fresh
Yup they're dying alright

Unprecedented

600,000 people die in nursing homes
every year in the United states

Is there any factual information that will stop the incessant
Virus Media frenzy driven false statements?

the point of the above is to say
that
why are the numbers of alleged covid deaths reported surprising shocking or unprecedented?

they are just a fraction of the normal death rate.

the only thing unprecedented is the media reporting

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