I call them Petty Tyrants --

The Coronavirus Is Exposing Little Tyrants All Over The Country

[thefederalist.com]

Some mayors and governors seem to think their authority is limitless in the face of the pandemic. They need a remedial lesson in the Constitution.

There’s nothing like a crisis to bring clarity. The response of some mayors and governors to the coronavirus pandemic in recent days has made it clear they think they have unlimited and arbitrary power over their fellow citizens, that they can order them to do or not do just about anything under the guise of protecting public health.

We’ve now witnessed local and state governments issue decrees about what people can and cannot buy in stores, arrest parents playing with their children in public parks, yank people off public buses at random, remove basketball rims along with private property, ticket churchgoers, and in one case try—and fail—to chase down a lone runner on an empty beach. All of this, we’re told, is for our own good.

Some Authorities Are Targeting Christians

The most egregious example of this outpouring of authoritarianism was an attempt by Louisville, Kentucky, Mayor Greg Fischer to ban drive-in church services on Easter. On Holy Thursday, one day before Christians were to begin their most important religious celebrations of the year, Fischer declared that drive-in Easter services would be illegal.

To remove all doubt about his seriousness, he also threatened arrest and criminal penalties for anyone who dared violate his order, and in an Orwellian twist, invited people to snitch on their fellow citizens. Fischer justified this by saying it was “to save lives.”

Thankfully, a federal judge made short work of the mayor’s idiotic power-grab, issuing a temporary restraining order against the city of Louisville on Saturday, writing so as to remove all doubt, “The Mayor’s decision is stunning. And it is, ‘beyond all reason,’ unconstitutional.”

The mayor shouldn’t have needed a federal judge to tell him that. Anyone with a passing familiarity with the U.S. Constitution should know the government can’t single out religious worship for special regulations and prohibitions, which is precisely what the clueless Fischer did here. His order would have barred Christians from driving to their church parking lots and sitting in their vehicles for Easter services—all while maintaining proper social distancing—while imposing no such restrictions on drive-up and drive-through restaurants, liquor stores, grocery stores, or parking lots generally.

Mayors or governors—or even presidents—can no more single out Christians on Easter than they can single out Muslims during Ramadan or Jews on Yom Kippur. If you’re going to ban parking in parking lots, it has to apply to everyone everywhere.

But this didn’t just happen in Louisville. Two churches in Greenville, Mississippi, that were holding drive-in services for Holy Week said police showed up and ordered churchgoers to leave or face a $500 fine.

In a video posted on Twitter from Pastor Hamilton of King James Bible Baptist Church in Greenville, a police officer tells Hamilton that because of the governor’s order, “your rights are suspended.” To the good pastor’s credit, he correctly notes that the governor cannot suspend his rights because his rights come from God, not the government.

Video from Pastor Hamilton of King James Bible Baptist Church in Greenville, MS. Church tried the “drive-in” method of holding services & were targeted due to the Mayor issuing an order prohibiting such services. Watch as an officer tells the Pastor that his rights are suspended.

[twitter.com]

Pandemic or not, this stuff has no place in American society. Petty tyranny of the kind these mayors and local officials are scheming is wholly alien to our customs and way of life, and destructive to the social contract on which our nation is built.

Thankfully, the Department of Justice has taken notice of this fledgling authoritarian streak among the country’s mayors and governors. A DOJ spokesman said Saturday Attorney General William Barr is “monitoring” government regulation of religious services and may take action against local governments as early as this week.

Overreaching Orders Expose Arbitrary Rule

That’s a good start, but the targeting of churches, while undoubtedly the most offensive overreach by state and local governments, is hardly the only instance of government gone wild. In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has taken it upon herself to declare what items are and are not “essential,” dictating to grocery stores what they can and cannot sell as part of a sweeping order issued Friday.

Among the nonessential, and therefore banned, items are fruit and vegetable plants and seeds. Never mind that growing fruits and vegetables at home right now would help maintain social distancing during the pandemic, the governor has spoken and her word is law. (Lottery tickets, on the other hand, are still permitted.)

Beyond the fruit and vegetable ban, the governor’s order is an object lesson in the absurdity and inconsistency of arbitrary power and rule by fiat. Michiganders are banned from traveling “between residences” if they own a cottage or a summer home, but the ban only applies to Michigan residents, so an out-of-stater with a cottage in the Upper Peninsula could presumably still visit. The ban also still allows travel between states, so if a Michigander has a cottage in Wisconsin or Ohio, he can travel without fear of being arrested or fined by state police.

Why did Whitmer tailor her order this way? Probably because she knows she has no authority to ban travel between states, or issue orders to Americans generally—no more than a mayor has the authority to shut down drive-in Easter services in his city.

That these officials need to be reminded of that, and in some cases restrained by federal judges, bodes very ill for America. Now more than ever, we need leaders who don’t just care about protecting us from the pandemic, but also care about preserving liberty in a time of crisis.

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BTW, Governors who shut down their states approval ratings have skyrocketed. Whereas Governors in states like Florida, where DeSantis didn't shut down his state until very recently, have plummeted. So can you imagine - THE MASSES think it's great that their Governor has Ruined their State and their own Quality of Life.

Most Americans Like How Their Governor Is Handling The Coronavirus Outbreak

[fivethirtyeight.com]

Governors like Cuomo and DeWine are getting far higher marks for their response to the virus than, for example, Ron DeSantis of Florida. DeSantis has been criticized for failing to close down Florida’s beaches during spring break and for waiting until April to issue a stay-at-home order.

Still, approval of most governors’ pandemic response is higher than their baseline approval ratings, suggesting they’re doing something to impress even people who don’t normally approve of them.3 Newsom, for example, isn’t especially popular overall, but he’s getting higher marks for his coronavirus response than just about any other governor for which we have data. Meanwhile, Charlie Baker, the Republican governor of Massachusetts, is also getting good marks for his handling of the virus, but he already had the approval of a large majority of his constituents.

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So that means - There are a ton of Sheeple/ChickenLittles/Statists/GovernmentLovers/AuthoritarianEnablers out there!

Are you christian too? Well then you're as lost as it gets...

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I call them Petty Tyrants --

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[fivethirtyeight.com]

Governors like Cuomo and DeWine are getting far higher marks for their response to the virus than, for example, Ron DeSantis of Florida. DeSantis has been criticized for failing to close down Florida’s beaches during spring break and for waiting until April to issue a stay-at-home order...
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So that means - There are a ton of Sheeple/ChickenLittles/Statists/GovernmentLovers/AuthoritarianEnablers out there!

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Fraid not Jennifer. No. It very obviously means that most people appreciate their governors for putting serious health and safety issues above short-sighted business and social interests (a very UNpolitical thing to do).

The BIGGEST little tyrant (and the one who is presently stewing in his own potty poo "like you wouldn't believe!" ) is our very own Mr. Trump, who claims authority over everything and responsibility for nothing.



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I call them Petty Tyrants --

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[fivethirtyeight.com]

Governors like Cuomo and DeWine are getting far higher marks for their response to the virus than, for example, Ron DeSantis of Florida. DeSantis has been criticized for failing to close down Florida’s beaches during spring break and for waiting until April to issue a stay-at-home order...
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So that means - There are a ton of Sheeple/ChickenLittles/Statists/GovernmentLovers/AuthoritarianEnablers out there!

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Fraid not Jennifer. No. It very obviously means that most people appreciate their governors for putting serious health and safety issues above short-sighted business and social interests (a very UNpolitical thing to do).

The BIGGEST little tyrant (and the one who is presently stewing in his own potty poo "like you wouldn't believe!" ) is our very own Mr. Trump, who claims authority over everything and responsibility for nothing.

Except if it's a hoax

Which it obviously is

And it should not be any politicians right
To close anything.

People have the right to decide on their own risk

And the germ theory is wrong
Which makes you and all of this wrong

This has been proven by scientific experiments

Your opinion means nothing

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So that means - There are a ton of Sheeple/ChickenLittles/Statists/GovernmentLovers/AuthoritarianEnablers out there!

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Fraid not Jennifer. No. It very obviously means that most people appreciate their governors for putting serious health and safety issues above short-sighted business and social interests (a very UNpolitical thing to do).

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No, the Seasonal Flu is not a "serious health and safety issues".

Flu Lesson: Every Flu Season of every year there are New Different Strains of the Flu. This COVID-19 is a New Different Strain of the Seasonal Flu for this Flu Season which encompasses 2019 - 2020.

BTW, the Flu Season is almost over so everyone SHOULD BE ABLE TO come out of their shells.

(Ever hear of the CONCEPT of NATURAL IMMUNITY?)

This New-Strain-of-the-Flu-for-this-Flu-Season is no more a SERIOUS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE, than the ORCHESTRATED 911 and PHONY 'WAR ON TERROR' was.

I presume you were fine with the GOVERNMENT REACTION to 911? The ORCHESTRATED 911 EVENT resulted in the Phony "War on Terror" and the PATRIOT ACT and Surveillance State which was ushered in resulting in some loss of our Freedoms and Liberties.

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You call this ...

And now the GOVERNMENT REACTION (with the help of THE MASSES/THE MOB/THE CHICKEN LITTLES/THE STATISTS/THE GOVERNMENT LOVERS/THE FEAR MONGERS/THE LIB MEDIA HYPERS) is to Lock Everyone In their Homes, Shut Down most Businesses, Outlaw gatherings of more than 10 people, and some Petty Tyrant Governors are even more DRACONIAN, like arresting people for going out in their cars alone for a drive, arresting people for going in the ocean alone, and whatnot.

And The Government (or whoever is behind this Coup) is Destroying the Economy, Bankrupting Businesses, Causing Millions of Workers to lose their jobs, plunging Millions of people into Poverty, Destroying the Retirement Accounts of Senior Citizens, facilitating DEATH CAMPS aka Nursing Homes for Old People.

Not to mention UNCONSTITUTIONALLY Taking Away American Citizens' Freedoms and Liberties, enabling Petty Tyrants, The Police State, Authoritarianism and Fascism. Creating the New Gods - "Experts" and "Scientists".


... "short-sighted business and social interests"

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WHY? WHY IS THIS YEARS STRAIN OF THE FLU DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER YEAR'S STRAIN OF THE FLU?

Why the OUT-OF-PROPORTION REACTION to the Flu THIS TIME?

Why, why, why?

BECAUSE THEY CAN - Thanks to the SHEEPLE/CHICKEN LITTLES/STATISTS/GOVERNMENT LOVERS/FEARMONGERS/FLU-HYPERS

Jennifer. Calling people names doesn't help make any kind of point or provide any kind of evidence for anything, except one's own character flaws.

If you are angry about other people not agreeing with you, are you just wanting your OWN group of "sheeple"?

People can be different than you, and it's OK. In this case, unless we think all those extra dead bodies everywhere in the world are crisis actors involved in a "hoax", most people would RATHER stay in their homes than risk the lives of their loved ones.

This is not your typical seasonal flu.

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Jennifer. Calling people names doesn't help make any kind of point or provide any kind of evidence for anything, except one's own character flaws.

If you are angry about other people not agreeing with you, are you just wanting your OWN group of "sheeple"?

People can be different than you, and it's OK. In this case, unless we think all those extra dead bodies everywhere in the world are crisis actors involved in a "hoax", most people would RATHER stay in their homes than risk the lives of their loved ones.

This is not your typical seasonal flu.

In what way or ways is it not my typical seasonal flu?

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Jennifer. Calling people names doesn't help make any kind of point or provide any kind of evidence for anything, except one's own character flaws.

If you are angry about other people not agreeing with you, are you just wanting your OWN group of "sheeple"?

People can be different than you, and it's OK. In this case, unless we think all those extra dead bodies everywhere in the world are crisis actors involved in a "hoax", most people would RATHER stay in their homes than risk the lives of their loved ones.

This is not your typical seasonal flu.

Strawman fallacy:

Description: Substituting a person's actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position or the argument.

SoundCloud keeps on ignoring the explanations that people give

1. More people diagnosed by fake test than last year
Those people overtreated and killed by drugs and ventilators

2. Fear increases susceptibility to death

3. Hospitalization increases same

4. Separation increases same


5. Media lies and exaggerating

6. Same amount of people last year you just didn't hear about it

7. Moving people into ICU unnecessarily causes supposed hospitals overwhelmed



Etc

They get $40000 extra for ventilator patient
They get $20000 extra for diagnosing covid19

You don't think that provides negative incentive?


Has nothing to do with crisis actors

You can't get it with a closed mind

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Except if it's a hoax

Which it obviously is

And it should not be any politicians right
To close anything.

People have the right to decide on their own risk

And the germ theory is wrong
Which makes you and all of this wrong

This has been proven by scientific experiments

Your opinion means nothing

Another example of I know EVERYTHING 100%, which means your mind is 100% CLOSED to further input,

D Wolfe on coronavirus, "I want my belief systems challenged and scrambled"
(Example of an OPEN mind).

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Except if it's a hoax

Which it obviously is

And it should not be any politicians right
To close anything.

People have the right to decide on their own risk

And the germ theory is wrong
Which makes you and all of this wrong

This has been proven by scientific experiments

Your opinion means nothing

Another example of I know EVERYTHING 100%, which means your mind is 100% CLOSED to further input,

D Wolfe on coronavirus, "I want my belief systems challenged and scrambled"
(Example of an OPEN mind).

Believe it or not you are wrong again

You have a habit of telling other people what they think and what they're doing. it's extremely immature..

My mind is not closed.

my mind has opinions based on researching a lot of information

your mind doesn't research much of anything

my mind is always always open to new information to change it

you get it ?

probably not

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SoundCloud keeps on ignoring the explanations that people give

1. More people diagnosed by fake test than last year
Those people overtreated and killed by drugs and ventilators

2. Fear increases susceptibility to death

3. Hospitalization increases same

4. Separation increases same


5. Media lies and exaggerating

6. Same amount of people last year you just didn't hear about it

7. Moving people into ICU unnecessarily causes supposed hospitals overwhelmed



Etc

They get $40000 extra for ventilator patient
They get $20000 extra for diagnosing covid19

You don't think that provides negative incentive?


Has nothing to do with crisis actors

You can't get it with a closed mind

Fresh, your points are not consistent.

Which is it? "More people" this year, or "Same amount of people"?

Regarding your list of "explanations", you don't know any of that at all. For example, it's very easy to say that people died because they went to a hospital, but you don't have any actual research to back it up. Where's your research to show that if (how many?) people hadn't gone to the hospital, they would have lived? I'm not talking about searching for people on the internet who make that claim. I'm talking about verifiable study results. That's what research is. Where's yours, and specifically on this virus? You have NOTHING. No figures to compare, no research, no NOTHING. It's all just made up stuff, based on a very few cherry-picked snippets of information that you throw out there as evidence of a much larger picture.

As for incentive, does anyone get $40,000 net pay for each of those ventilator patients, especially for the patients who are underinsured? Who? Please explain.

[www.washingtonpost.com] ("More lifesaving ventilators are available. Hospitals can’t afford them." )

And who gets $20,000 for diagnosing a Covid-19 patient? Most of these diagnoses have come from a separate lab. Do the lab technicians get $20,000 for a Covid-19 diagnosis? Do they get kickbacks from hospital administrators? Or from doctors or nurses - the same people who are risking their lives and even dying? All those people are either on salary, or they get an hourly wage. Did you think they're paid for each patient? They get paid the same, everyday.

Please explain. Who gets the $20,000 per Covid-19 patient, and what reliable source did you get that from?

What about the nursing homes? Do you think it's good for business to have so many deaths from an unchecked virus raging through your facility? If that's the case, are the workers just faking their pleas for protective equipment, not to mention their own deaths?

Speaking of nursing homes, maybe YOU won't be hurt, maybe your immune system is strong, but many others are hurting very bad right now. If you're not in a nursing home, and you don't know anyone in a nursing home, lucky you.



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In what way or ways is it not my typical seasonal flu?

Google it. Just type in, "How is Covid-19 different from a typical flu"? Whatever you believe will be up to you of course, but you might find some new information to base your opinion on. Try to look for a reliable source, something unbiased that doesn't accuse anyone of anything.



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Jennifer. Calling people names doesn't help make any kind of point or provide any kind of evidence for anything, except one's own character flaws.

If you are angry about other people not agreeing with you, are you just wanting your OWN group of "sheeple"?

People can be different than you, and it's OK. In this case, unless we think all those extra dead bodies everywhere in the world are crisis actors involved in a "hoax", most people would RATHER stay in their homes than risk the lives of their loved ones.

This is not your typical seasonal flu.

Strawman fallacy:

Description: Substituting a person's actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position or the argument.

Jennifer, I apologize for my lack of clarity, but it wasn't my intention to put words in your mouth. I used that term "crisis actors" because I thought it would be a good example of a ridiculous explanation. My point was that there's really no rational explanation for claims of a hoax. Please note that I use quotes when referring to what other people say (See above).

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SoundCloud keeps on ignoring the explanations that people give

1. More people diagnosed by fake test than last year
Those people overtreated and killed by drugs and ventilators

2. Fear increases susceptibility to death

3. Hospitalization increases same

4. Separation increases same


5. Media lies and exaggerating

6. Same amount of people last year you just didn't hear about it

7. Moving people into ICU unnecessarily causes supposed hospitals overwhelmed



Etc

They get $40000 extra for ventilator patient
They get $20000 extra for diagnosing covid19

You don't think that provides negative incentive?


Has nothing to do with crisis actors

You can't get it with a closed mind

Fresh, your points are not consistent.

Which is it? "More people" this year, or "Same amount of people"?

Regarding your list of "explanations", you don't know any of that at all. For example, it's very easy to say that people died because they went to a hospital, but you don't have any actual research to back it up. Where's your research to show that if (how many?) people hadn't gone to the hospital, they would have lived? I'm not talking about searching for people on the internet who make that claim. I'm talking about verifiable study results. That's what research is. Where's yours, and specifically on this virus? You have NOTHING. No figures to compare, no research, no NOTHING. It's all just made up stuff, based on a very few cherry-picked snippets of information that you throw out there as evidence of a much larger picture.

As for incentive, does anyone get $40,000 net pay for each of those ventilator patients, especially for the patients who are underinsured? Who? Please explain.

[www.washingtonpost.com] ("More lifesaving ventilators are available. Hospitals can’t afford them." )

And who gets $20,000 for diagnosing a Covid-19 patient? Most of these diagnoses have come from a separate lab. Do the lab technicians get $20,000 for a Covid-19 diagnosis? Do they get kickbacks from hospital administrators? Or from doctors or nurses - the same people who are risking their lives and even dying? All those people are either on salary, or they get an hourly wage. Did you think they're paid for each patient? They get paid the same, everyday.

Please explain. Who gets the $20,000 per Covid-19 patient, and what reliable source did you get that from?

What about the nursing homes? Do you think it's good for business to have so many deaths from an unchecked virus raging through your facility? If that's the case, are the workers just faking their pleas for protective equipment, not to mention their own deaths?

Speaking of nursing homes, maybe YOU won't be hurt, maybe your immune system is strong, but many others are hurting very bad right now. If you're not in a nursing home, and you don't know anyone in a nursing home, lucky you.

Correction, I got carried away. Some doctors do get paid something for each patient, depending on diagnosis. But I don't believe any lab or lab technician gets paid $20,000 for a positive Covid-19 test. Nor does any doctor or nurse or administrator receive net pay of $20,000 per Covid-19 patient. In fact, if the following information is correct, there's a net loss per COVID-19 hospital patient:

[revcycleintelligence.com]

"A new analysis from the non-profit FAIR Health breaks down what COVID-19 cases will cost hospitals...They found that a hospitalized COVID-19 patient will incur an average of $73,300 in costs. However, the total average allowed amount per commercially insured patient is just $33,221."

Most COVID-19 patients stay home to recover and don't even go to a hospital (unless/until they feel they have to, because they think they might die if they don't).



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Dr Jensen
39000 dollars

Second
You're right. It's my educated guess on patient outcomes

More people refers to phony media reports

Same or less refers to the facts and statistics

Nursing homes...
Again feel free to prove that they died of a virus that's your claim my supposition is many people in a nursing home are near death and or they are suddenly treated due to imaginary virus diagnosis

Most COVID-19 patients stay home to recover and don't even go to a hospital (unless/until they feel they have to, because they think they might die if they don't).

there are ZERO covid19 patients

until they SHOW that there are covid19 patients.

if you understood the validity of the test
and you obviously don't.
you would understand that claims require proof , not ASSUMPTIONS.

if you understood that NOBODY has shown that a covid19 virus
caused illness or death
then you wouldn't be confused and making silly claims.

brainwashed.

By the way it's very obvious what's causing this thing

And many people have given explanations non viral

However I DO NOT NEED TO PROVide EXPLANATION

The purveyors of the virus story are required to do that

THEY HAVE NOT

NOR HAS ANYONE HERE PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE

By default it is not true so we fall back on the more logical non viral causes

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In what way or ways is it not my typical seasonal flu?

Google it. Just type in, "How is Covid-19 different from a typical flu"? Whatever you believe will be up to you of course, but you might find some new information to base your opinion on. Try to look for a reliable source, something unbiased that doesn't accuse anyone of anything.

Yes, I had Googled that way back when this dog-and-pony-show first started.

I Googled: Is a cold a coronavirus?

And most results were bait and switch - The websites were suddenly talking about how A Cold and The Coronavirus HAVE DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS. And at least one of the websites were suddenly comparing A Cold to SARS.

[www.google.com]

And yeah, the word, "Sheeple" drives The Sheeple crazy. Yet it's okay for them to call we Skeptics, "Virus Deniers" and other derogatory terms. And remember their words of endearment for Tea Party People - "Teabaggers" - yeah that was fine. And all the language used to describe Trump Supporters and Trump ... I don't recall anybody using that kind of derogatory names for Obama.

Double Standard.

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In what way or ways is it not my typical seasonal flu?

Google it. Just type in, "How is Covid-19 different from a typical flu"? Whatever you believe will be up to you of course, but you might find some new information to base your opinion on. Try to look for a reliable source, something unbiased that doesn't accuse anyone of anything.

Yes, I had Googled that way back when this dog-and-pony-show first started.

I Googled: Is a cold a coronavirus?

And most results were bait and switch - The websites were suddenly talking about how A Cold and The Coronavirus HAVE DIFFERENT SYMPTOMS. And at least one of the websites were suddenly comparing A Cold to SARS.

[www.google.com]

And yeah, the word, "Sheeple" drives The Sheeple crazy. Yet it's okay for them to call we Skeptics, "Virus Deniers" and other derogatory terms. And remember their words of endearment for Tea Party People - "Teabaggers" - yeah that was fine. And all the language used to describe Trump Supporters and Trump ... I don't recall anybody using that kind of derogatory names for Obama.

Double Standard.

You don't recall any derogatory names for Obama?

Sorry Jennifer, for all that you seem to be thinking. But no one's politics are going to fix this virus.



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Sorry Jennifer, for all that you seem to be thinking. But no one's politics are going to fix this virus.

That's the whole problem in a nutshell! There is no "fix this virus"! No such thing. All this rigamarole with the 'experts' 'science' 'the government' and 'the sheeple' trying to 'fix this virus', is all A SHAM!

Oh government

Fix my heart disease
Cancer
Arthritis
Etc

In fact let's get a war going on all of them!

No contagion
No justification for government intervention

They need contagion
They invent contagion

They are not us
They thirst for money power control.

But they are few
we are legion
We are anon

Re banning of sale of seeds. I heard that it was just grass seed that was considered nonessential but vegetable seeds are okay. The gov might have tried to ban everything you can grow yourself in your garden, but that might have changed. I am willing to be corrected on this topic.

In any event, more arguement for seed saving (of heirloom varieties)!



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Yes, I just heard on the radio that Governor Gretchen Whatever-her-name-is banned buying seeds in Michigan. She's out of control, but I presume the Coronavirus-Hypers love her to death like they love Cuomo.

Michigan Bans Many Stores From Selling Seeds, Home Gardening Supplies, Calls Them “Not Necessary”

[www.forbes.com]

Okay. Tks, Jennifer, for the information on seeds! - Horsea.

Petty Tyrant Lib California Governor Gavin Newsom is closing all Beaches and Parks in California which should get him brownie points with all the Chicken Little/Statists.

REPORT: Gov. Gavin Newsom To Close All California Beaches And State Parks

[dailycaller.com]

Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom is reportedly preparing to close all the beaches in his state after large crowds gathered in Southern California last weekend.

A memo sent to all California police chiefs and obtained by several local news outlets stated that Newsom is set to close the beaches May 1, with no set date for the order to expire.

“All beaches and all state parks in California will be closed, effective Friday, May 1st,” the memo says. “We wanted to give all of our members a heads up about this in order to provide time for you to plan for any situations you might expect as a result, knowing each community has its own dynamics.”

Photos of large crowds gathering at beaches in the southern part of the state generated some controversy on social media over the weekend. A recent study found that of 318 outbreaks in China, just two cases were transmitted outdoors.

Video here:

Governor Set to Close All Beaches and State Parks in California
The order was set to go into effect Friday, May 1, 2020, and there was no indication how long it would be in effect.

[www.nbclosangeles.com]

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Perspective:

Population of California - 39,000,000

Coronavirus Deaths - 1,956

So the Minuscule Coronavirus Death Rate for California is:

.00501%



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[www.thinkinghousewife.com]

It's really like a dictatorship with these petty dictators telling us what we can and can't do. And now that some places are opening up, they're micromanaging down to the smallest detail. The Party of Rules and Regulations.

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Retailers and Malls

Malls and retailers across Texas can reopen but must keep capacity limited to 25%. But for rural counties with five or less confirmed cases of the new coronavirus, retailers can serve up to 50% of their regular capacity.

Areas including food court dining space, play areas and interactive displays must remain closed.

Retailers can also offer customers in-store pick up or get items delivered by mail or to their doorstep.

The task force recommends stores implement either specific pick up times for at-risk customers or that workers take their purchase out to the customer’s car.

Restaurants

On Friday, dine-in service is back on at restaurants but capacity is limited to 25%. But for rural counties with five or less confirmed cases of the new coronavirus, restaurants can serve up to 50% of their regular capacity.

Bars are to remain closed, even if they offer food.

Only six people will be allowed at a table and parties will be seated at least 6 feet apart from each other.

Patrons who choose to dine-in at a restaurant should expect a few new practices: disposable menus, condiments served only upon request and in single-use portions (a side of ketchup instead of a ketchup bottle), buffets that aren’t self serve and a hand sanitizing station at the restaurant entrance.

Valet service is also suspended except for cars with placards or plates for disabled parking.

Restaurants can still provide to-go and delivery service.

Restaurants that reopen dine-in service are encouraged to have an employee open doors to limit how many people come in contact with it and employees should disinfect surfaces and store items.

Movie theaters

Despite the go-ahead to reopen movie theaters at 25% capacity, and 50% in rural counties with five or less confirmed cases of the new coronavirus, some of the state’s largest theater chains said they may not reopen until the summer.

Moviegoers who find an open theater will have to stay at least two empty seats apart from each other and there must be an empty row between customers. If you attend a movie with people you live with you can all sit together but must have two empty seats on either side of the group. If you want to watch a movie with someone you don’t live with, you can sit in the same row but still two seats apart.

Seats and other frequently touched surfaces must be cleaned between each screening.

Theaters with food options must follow similar protocol as restaurants with disposable menus, single-use cutlery and condiments and take home pencils and notepads for places that require customers to write down their order.

Outdoor Sports

Texans can only play sports that don’t include contact with other players and only four people can play at a time. That rules out most sports including basketball, soccer and football. Public swimming pools must remain closed.

The governor’s group noted special instructions for golf courses, which can open. Golf carts must be cleaned between uses, only one person is allowed per cart, unless you’re of the same household and golfers must keep 6 feet apart.

Churches and Places of Worship

Since stay-at-home orders were implemented in early April churches and places of worship have been allowed to stay open as long as they followed social distancing guidelines.

Places of worship can still hold service but the governor’s task force encourages at-risk groups to watch service remotely. Religious institutions should also have designated services or areas for at-risk people who choose to attend in-person service.

Anyone who attends a religious service must sit at least two empty seats apart from other worshippers not in their households, and there should be an empty row between each person.

Museums and Libraries

Public museums and libraries must have permission from their local government to reopen. Once up and running, museums and libraries can only allow 25% capacity and must close interactive areas, like exhibits and play areas. Capacity jumps to 50% in rural counties with five or less confirmed cases of the new coronavirus.


They're probably lying awake at night trying to come up with more dictates for We the People.

And what the heck happens if you break a rule - a fine? Imprisonment?

did you see Maine it was a restaurant owner has been closed for a month

He was on Tucker and said he's going to open against the governor's rules he saying the government wants to bankrupt the state so that they will get Federal money


But remember it's not us vs them according to nunativs
Governors are our buddies they have their children's best interest at heart



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did you see Maine it was a restaurant owner has been closed for a month

He was on Tucker and said he's going to open against the governor's rules he saying the government wants to bankrupt the state so that they will get Federal money

But remember it's not us vs them according to nunativs
Governors are our buddies they have their children's best interest at heart

I just watched it. I haven't heard that New England accent in a while.

Maine Restaurant Owner Tells Tucker Carlson It’s Time To Defy Governor And Lockdown And Go Back To Work

[dailycaller.com]