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How a virus evolves
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: April 17, 2020 06:39PM

How a new virus evolves:

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 06:39PM

You can post all you want until you fulfill Koch's postulates its meaningless

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: April 17, 2020 06:54PM

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fresh
You can post all you want until you fulfill Koch's postulates its meaningless

Do you agree with Koch's postulates Fresh? They prove contagion through some kind of germ. As in "germ theory".

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 06:56PM

they are hurdles that one needs to get over in order to prove that a virus is causing disease that has never been done for any virus.

So yes I agree that the postulates are logical

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:10PM

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fresh
they are hurdles that one needs to get over in order to prove that a virus is causing disease that has never been done for any virus.

So yes I agree that the postulates are logical

Sorry, but the postulates were updated to include viruses (since they previously ONLY addressed bacteria). Otherwise, you'd be asking to prove that an orange is an apple.

And the SARS virus of 2003 met the updated postulates.

[www.nature.com]

So do you only believe bacteria exist and can be contagious, but not viruses? Many bacteria do meet the original Koch postulates.

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:13PM

You are incorrect and it's tiresome to debunk all your sources
Over and over

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:15PM

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fresh
You are incorrect and it's tiresome to debunk all your sources
Over and over

You brought it up. Not me. Suddenly you don't like your own argument.

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:20PM

Suncloud

They have no idea how to prove that they have fulfilled Koch's postulates right here it shows that they have no idea

these effects they are describing has nothing to do with fulfilling of postulates

It's simply pushing foreign matter out.and the effects from it.
Has nothing to do with
Infection or contagion BY ACTIVE MULTIPLYING ATTACKING VIRUS

STOP WASTING MY TIME YOU YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE
they are unable to think out of the virus paradigm


Both SCV-inoculated macaques became lethargic from 3 d.p.i. onwards and developed a temporary skin rash, and one suffered respiratory distress from 4 d.p.i. onwards. The macaques excreted virus from the nose and throat at 2–6 d.p.i., as shown by polymerase chain reaction with reverse transcription (RT-PCR) and by virus isolation (see supplementary information). The isolated virus was identical to that inoculated, as shown by negative-contrast electron microscopy (Fig. 1a) and RT-PCR analysis. Seroconversion

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:33PM

There were no controls in the study

And they assume lung damage from virus

Doesn't prove anything

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: suncloud ()
Date: April 17, 2020 07:48PM

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fresh
Suncloud



It's simply pushing foreign matter out.and the effects from it.
Has nothing to do with
Infection or contagion BY ACTIVE MULTIPLYING ATTACKING VIRUS

Most people following a raw food diet do have experience with elimination, but they don't die from it. And I don't see any evidence from you that this is the same thing.

Are you aware of any studies on COVID-19 that demonstrate your theory is true? Until you are, then it's just your theory, and that's all it is.

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 08:00PM

I don't know what theory you're talkin about

Secondly you have to also keep in mind with that study that they're using the PCR and PCR is not an accurate test it just identifies various general categories of particles based on markers.


Let me see if I can get somebody else who can discuss it with more expertise

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 08:22PM

Here is where Steven lanka describes the flaws in a study that you submitted

[www.youtube.com]



[abruptearthchanges.com]

Same as what I said no controls and inject of fluids causes problems whatever it contains plus virus identifying is flawed etc

I know you won't agree with this this is really posted for other people

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Re: How a virus evolves
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 17, 2020 08:48PM

You're making the same mistake as nunativs

Neither one of you is very good at logic or science

I don't know why this is so difficult

Again for the 10th time somebody is claiming that a virus is
killing people all around the world where is the evidence on it?

Should be scientific papers proving infection and contagion and medical examiner reports all that stuff

But no. They assume
And they Propaganda

Why do I need to have a theory?

it just so happens that I do have a theory it's not really my theory it's a conglomeration of various sources of information but I don't need a theory

My theory is business as usual plus some shenanigans by the government

you need a theory!

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