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Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: April 23, 2020 06:34AM

Many more people have coronavirus antibodies according to recent serological studies (testing the blood for antibodies).

One is from USC / Los Angeles:
Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest

The other is from Stanford:
Dr. John Ioannidis Announces Results of COVID-19 Serology Study

Whatever the real multiplier is, whether it's 40X from the USC/LA study, or 50-80X from the Stanford/Santa Clara Country study, this mean you divide the current death rate from covid-19 by this factor (40, or 50-80). This put the death rate of people who contract the disease at 0.07-0.10%.


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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: April 23, 2020 06:57AM

The failing New York Times is reporting on this too: Coronavirus Infections May Not Be Uncommon, Tests Suggest


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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: April 23, 2020 08:16AM

the question is whether these tests are just for generic coronavirus or this specific strain. because if it's for generic coronavirus, then there are many mild cold and flu strains, even in raw milk, so it would be common in the population and pre-existing. Are these tests for covid 19 specifically?

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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: Prana ()
Date: April 23, 2020 08:24AM

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Tai
the question is whether these tests are just for generic coronavirus or this specific strain. because if it's for generic coronavirus, then there are many mild cold and flu strains, even in raw milk, so it would be common in the population and pre-existing. Are these tests for covid 19 specifically?

No. But neither are the swab test, called RT/PRC test for coronavirus. These test find other genetic material (not the virus) associated with the coronvirus.

Also, it has not even been proven that what has been identified as SARS-Cov-2 is the actual cause of this "pandemic" (or scandemic or plandemic). So why search for the SARS-Cov-2 virus, or any of its over 250 strains, when there is no proof of causation?

See Re: Koch's Postulates: Have They Been Proven for Viruses?





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2020 08:30AM by Prana.

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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 23, 2020 11:01AM

In other words number 346 in the long list of
Evidence for hoax

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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 23, 2020 11:42AM

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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: April 23, 2020 02:03PM

Right, guys, I finally get it. Thanks!

I understand how the Coronavirus test is flawed thanks to Fresh's post here -

[www.rawfoodsupport.com]

"I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.

This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.

The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.

The problem is the test is known not to work.

It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.

Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.

The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is
The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.

And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.

If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if it is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.

If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.

And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.

Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.

They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive

PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.

There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.

All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.

Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.

You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.

Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist."

Here's the link to the actual article -

[www.globalresearch.ca]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2020 02:15PM by Jennifer.

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Re: Los Angeles coronavirus infections 40 times greater than known cases, antibody tests suggest
Posted by: fresh ()
Date: April 23, 2020 02:12PM

You're one of the rare people
Willing to
think
Question
Change mind
Not believe authorities

I wouldn't mind zombies except
I am impacted by their acceptance of stupid rules
And apparently responsible for their health by my breathing

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