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Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: May 13, 2020 04:37PM

This New York pastor says his parish lost 44 people to coronavirus

"In the name of jesus, I command you to get up and rebuke the fake virus in the name of the raw and living foods board!!!"

Raul Luis Lopez is No. 33 on a list that keeps growing.

The 39-year-old restaurant deliveryman died last month in a New York hospital.

And at Saint Peter’s Church in Manhattan, he’s part of a devastating tally: Coronavirus Deaths from Our Parish.

The list sits on the Rev. Fabian Arias’ desk, beneath the N95 mask he plans to wear to the next funeral he’s presiding over. There are dozens of names on it, and he fears soon there will be more.

Arias and other church leaders say the pandemic has killed 44 people from their parish.

Some were active members who regularly attended Mass. Others showed up sporadically for Holy Week, family baptisms or other special events. Arias views all of them as part of his parish. And he says the death toll in their church reveals a troubling reality about the way the coronavirus pandemic is cratering immigrant communities.

Church leaders provided a copy of the list to CNN, but asked for the full names of victims not to be printed to protect their privacy. CNN spoke with several family members of those who died and confirmed about a third of the names on the list with available public records, but was unable to confirm some deaths independently.

Of the deaths in the parish that church officials have logged, Arias says the majority — nearly 90% — are Latino. And many, he says, are undocumented immigrants.

“The virus installs itself more in the most vulnerable places, and so it infects the most vulnerable people. This is the problem. The virus does not discriminate,” he says. “We are the ones who as a society are discriminating.”

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: May 13, 2020 05:05PM

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NuNativs
This New York pastor says his parish lost 44 people to coronavirus

Raul Luis Lopez is No. 33 on a list that keeps growing.

Arias and other church leaders say the pandemic has killed 44 people from their parish.

Of the deaths in the parish that church officials have logged, Arias says the majority — nearly 90% — are Latino. And many, he says, are undocumented immigrants.

“The virus installs itself more in the most vulnerable places, and so it infects the most vulnerable people. This is the problem. The virus does not discriminate,” he says. “We are the ones who as a society are discriminating.”


Always with the Race Mongering/Identity Politics.

This is fishy:

"Of the deaths in the parish that church officials have logged, Arias says the majority — nearly 90% — are Latino. And many, he says, are undocumented immigrants."

There's more to the story. I'm not buying it.

At the very least - many Churches are getting paid by Illegal Immigration Groups to house Illegal Immigrants. So just off the top of my head, could it be all these Illegal Immigrants who died were not what we'd call 'Parishioners' exactly, but were being Housed for Money by the Parish and so this story misrepresented the facts to fit their narrative ...

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: May 13, 2020 06:50PM

Jennifer I don't see anything fishy behind that story.

They are saying that latinos are in the service sector and therefore are getting exposed more than other ethnic groups and hence more sickness and death. Nothing fishy there.

I don't know how it is in New York, but I still see taco trucks and stands everywhere here in Los Angeles still operating under lockdown. It's a great way to spread disease because it's not a proper kitchen inside those trucks.

People are still not grasping that viruses can spread through food. Food can be very dangerous



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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: RawPracticalist ()
Date: May 13, 2020 09:31PM







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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: May 13, 2020 10:58PM

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Tai

Jennifer I don't see anything fishy behind that story.

They are saying that latinos are in the service sector and therefore are getting exposed more than other ethnic groups and hence more sickness and death. Nothing fishy there.

Why I said something was fishy was that - I was in disbelief that 44 people from one church in Manhattan died in the last couple months from this Plandemic. 44 deaths from one church in Manhattan is too many.

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This church is in Manhattan.

There are 96 Parishes (churches) in Manhattan.

There have been 5200 Latino Coronavirus Deaths in all of NYC, which encompasses Manhattan and the four other boroughs. So an estimate of 1,000 Latino Deaths in Manhattan.

So 40 Latino deaths at the one church is a disproportionate number of Latino deaths.

And that's assuming that every Latino in Manhattan belonged to a church.

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: May 13, 2020 11:28PM

How could anyone be so GULLIBLE to believe the Media or any other "Trusted Source"?

“The medical profession (is) a conspiracy to hide its own shortcomings. No doubt the same may be said of all professions. They are all conspiracies against the laity... Until there is a practicable alternative to blind trust in the doctor, the truth about the doctor is so terrible that we dare not face it.” -George Bernard Shaw, "The Doctor's Dilemma," 1906

[www.naturalnews.com]
The gullible mind explained
Thursday, May 05, 2011
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger - Controlled Opposition
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) In light of the string of the blatant falsehoods being announced by the U.S. government these days (FDA, DHS, White House, etc.) it's interesting that so many people still believe whatever they are told by "official" sources. It brings up the question of the functioning of their brains: How could a person swallow official information so gullibly and so completely without even asking commonsense questions about the reliability or factual basis of that information?

These people, it turns out, are operating from what I called The Gullible Mind. It is a psychological processing malfunction that filters out information based on its source rather than its integrity. People who operate from The Gullible Mind tend to have misplaced trust in governments, institutions, mainstream news networks, doctors, scientists or anyone who wears the garb of apparent authority.

Whereas a normal, intelligent person would raise commonsense questions about information they receive from all sources, the Gullible Mind wholly accepts virtually any information from sources that occupy the role of apparent authority in society.

Governments never lie
But how does this work inside their heads? It's an interesting process. Gullible Mind people do believe it is possible for a government (or institution) to lie; but they believe that governments, institutions and doctors choose NOT to lie even when it would serve their own self interests to do so.

Follow this carefully, because this is the fascinating part. These Gullible Mind people effectively believe that even though a government official could lie about something, they would never actually do so. And why wouldn't they? Because, ultimately, the Gullible Mind crowd believes that governments, institutions and mainstream media outlets operate from a sort of honor code. So even if it were in the interests of our own government to lie to us, it would never happen because that would violate this imaginary honor code.

Where does this honor code exist? Where is it written down? Nowhere, of course. It is imaginary. But to The Gullible Mind, it seems real. Interestingly, even though this "honor code" only exists in the imagination of The Gullible Mind person, they project this honor code onto sources of authority, imagining that they abide by it.

Extreme gullibility
This is how The Gullible Mind person believes that network news always reports the truth. The news networks have a sense of "honor," they believe, and this sense of honor requires them to always report the truth and never manipulate the news for any nefarious purposes. So news networks never "shape" the news and they only report what is factually true without any consideration whatsoever of politics or advertiser profits.

This view of the world is, of course, laughably naive. And yet it is the core belief system of at least half the population -- the Gullible Mind half that believes everything it is told by its own government, media or authority figures.

Interestingly, the Gullible Mind is also inwardly gullible because it does not recognize its own gullibility. Instead, it believes it is operating as a Rational Mind. This false Rational Mind believes it functions as a critical filter of incoming information, but even this is self deception. In truth, this false Rational Mind is on "auto filter" so that it filters out any information that conflicts with the information it is receiving from official sources.

This is the key to understanding the Gullible Mind -- it isn't the quality of the information itself that matters; it is the confirmation of the story from official sources that "makes it real" in the Gullible Mind.

The Easter Bunny killed Bin Laden!
For example, let's say a Gullible Mind person comes across an announcement that says the Easter Bunny has killed Osama Bin Laden. The report claims that colored eggs were found near Bin Laden's body, and there was evidence of feathers being left at the scene, which proves the Easter Bunny was there.

Now, an intelligent, rational mind would have a lot of questions about this. For starters, rabbits don't have feathers. And the Easter Bunny is a piece of fiction, too. On top of that, how could the Easter Bunny kill Osama Bin Laden? An intelligent person would, upon reviewing the holes in the story, be forced to conclude the story is fiction. The only logical conclusion from that is that the government is lying to them.

A Gullible Mind person, however, would not ask whether rabbits have feathers, or whether the Easter Bunny is capable of conducting a military raid. Instead, the Gullible Mind person would first look to other confirming news sources in order to determine the reliability of the story. They would turn on the TV or surf the internet, looking for the news to be repeated through "official" sources.

Once they found CNN, or Fox News, or some other "official" source reporting that the Easter Bunny killed Osama Bin Laden, then that news report would instantly become "real" in their minds. Suddenly it has shifted from their mental processing queue to the "absolutely truth" part of their brain, and from that point forward, no one can question that reality in their heads.

Don't bother arguing with a Gullible Mind - they are immune to facts
At this point, their rational mind is completely shut off on the topic. No accumulation of facts can, at that point, rattle their "reality." For example, a person who believes the government's story of 9/11 has already embraced the Easter Bunny version of terrorists flying airplanes into the World Trade Center towers. So how did this act cause the WTC 7 building to collapse in a demolition-style free-fall a few hours later, when WTC 7 was never struck by airplanes? How can a steel and concrete building suddenly and magically collapse in perfect structural synchronicity merely from being on fire?

The answers don't matter to The Gullible Mind, you see. There is no room for facts inside their heads, because all the space has been taken up with what is essentially a cult-like belief in institutions of authority.

We saw this in the Heaven's Gate cult in California a few years back. The leader of that cult, a man named Applegate, positioned himself as the one and only source of authoritative information among the cult followers. So HE became the authoritative source whose information was wholly accepted without questioning or skepticism of any kind. At that point, he was able to quite easily convince his followers that an alien race was going to land a UFO on the far side of a comet, and that if they killed themselves, they would be transported onto the alien ship (or something like that).

The belief in such a story may seem silly... until you realize that the governments of the world use the exact same cult-like tactics to get their own "followers" to believe everything they say, without question. So if President Obama announced that an alien race was going to land a mother ship on the White House lawn, and that people who voted for him would have their consciousness transferred to an immortal alien body, the remarkable truth is that millions of people would believe that. Perhaps tens of millions. They would even worship him as an interstellar saint.

Remember Orson Welles' radio program that announced aliens had invaded the Earth and were destroying our cities? ( [en.wikipedia.org]... ) Huge numbers of people believed it was really happening... and not because it made any sense, but because the information came from the source they trusted. To those people, the alien invasion was just as real back then as Bin Laden's official death is to government followers today.

Throughout history, many conspiracy theories have turned out to be true
Government lying, of course, has been going on for as long as governments have existed. Not all conspiracies theories are true, of course, but so many of them turn out to be true that the idea of "not believing" in conspiracies makes no rational sense.

To not believe in conspiracies means you don't believe two people have ever sat down and plotted to take advantage of others in some unethical and deceptive way. Well gee, that describes virtually every board meeting of every large corporation in the world! Conspiracies are not just commonplace; they're practically synonymous with modern-day capitalism! Even right now, Apple is being accused of a conspiracy to keep employee wages artificially low: [www.appleinsider.com]...

I wonder: Do the Gullible Mind people also not believe in that conspiracy theory? Are all conspiracy theories automatically tossed out merely because of the word "conspiracy?"

For those who don't know their history, here's a list of 33 conspiracy theories that turned out to be true: [www.newworldorderreport.com]...

The Manhattan Project, of course, was a secret government conspiracy. The Tuskegee Syphilis experiments on African Americans was a secret medical conspiracy. Operation Northwoods was a conspiracy plot to create support for a war on Castro by staging terrorism events in U.S. cities.

These are all historical facts. They are indisputable. But to The Gullible Mind, none of this history exists. What's real is only what they are being told right now by the White House. When George Bush occupied the White House, the daily fibs were things like, "The Iraqis want us to occupy their land with military personnel because we are setting them free!" Oh yeah, that's a bit of twisted logic, for sure. But it's no different from Obama's version of the war fairytales, which includes such gems as, "We're only dropping humanitarian bombs on Libya." Or, "It's not actually war. It's only kinetic military action."

But you see, it makes no difference whether anything they say is actually true... at least not to The Gullible Mind, which believes there is no such thing as a conspiracy theory. There is no such thing as a nefarious government, either. Heck, when Columbus landed in the New World, his entire crew shared food and wine with the Native American Indians, we're told. There was no raping, no murder, no genocide. That's why we continue to celebrate Columbus Day every year! Because the Gullible Mind wants a reason to get off work for a day, even if it requires a complete revision of actual historical facts.

The most popular issues of Gullible Mind people
Vaccines are good for you - Vaccines are "safe and effective" merely because doctors and the CDC say they are, not because of any reliable scientific evidence.

The economy is in great shape - Gullible Mind people are easily influenced to stop thinking about the $14 trillion national debt that's growing by the day and simply go along with whatever economic fictions are being woven in Washington.

Governments and corporations are looking out for your best interests - The drug companies only want to find cures and make everybody healthy. The government is here to help. We should all stop asking questions and just do what we're told.

Nothing will ever run out - There's no such thing as Peak Oil. Our world can continue its throwaway economy without end, they believe. We'll never run out of gas, water, soil or natural resources. Keep using stuff up and throwing it all away!

Food additives are good for you - Otherwise, the FDA wouldn't have approved them, would they?

There's no such thing as a cure for cancer - The ultimate pessimists, the Gullible Mind crowd believes cancer has never been cured! And if a cancer cure did exist, we would know about it by now, right? (Because our scientists already know everything that's worth knowing, you see...)

There are no other non-terrestrial civilizations or beings in our universe - Amazingly, we are the only intelligent forms of life that have ever existed, they believe. Any talk of non-Earth intelligence is just a bunch of "fringe" nonsense. There was never any life on Mars, either.

Herbs and plants have no medicinal value - That's right, only conventional medicine can "treat" you, because that's what the doctors say. Herbs and plants have zero biological value beyond their calories alone, they insist.

... and on it goes, one delusion after another. A Gullible Mind, it seems, will believe almost anything if it comes from a "trusted" source. But that same Gullible Mind will discount straight-up facts if they don't come from those same trusted sources.

How to stop being a Gullible Mind
Interestingly, most of the people who are intelligent, skeptical thinkers today used to be Gullible Mind people at one time or another. There was a point where they simply "awakened" and began to consciously question the world around them.

Intelligent, informed skeptics are the people asking questions like:

• Why do twenty different mainstream news sources all report the exact same news, using the exact same words, on the exact same day? ( [www.naturalnews.com]... ) If they were all investigating and writing their own news, wouldn't their news be different?

• Why did Wall Street get a multi-trillion-dollar bailout from Washington while the American people are still required to pay taxes that involve sending money to Washington? If Washington can just magically create a trillion dollars overnight, why do we pay taxes, then?

• Why does the USDA now actively conspire with GMO seed companies to keep approving genetically modified seeds even without any scientific evidence of their long-term safety?

• If mercury is one of the most toxic substances known to modern science, why is it still being deliberately placed into the mouths of children in the form of "silver" fillings? And why are they called "silver" when they actually contain more mercury than silver?

• Where does the fluoride used to fluoridate the public water supplies really come from? (http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=42652...) And if fluoride is so good for people, then why is it so hazardous to handle, and why is it considered a hazardous chemical by the EPA?

• What really happened on 9/11? How did WTC 7 collapse if it was never hit by any airplanes? Why did they sweep away the rubble before a proper forensic analysis could be performed?

• Are vaccines really safe? Where's the study comparing vaccinated children with non-vaccinated children? Why won't the vaccine industry allow such studies to be conducted?

• Why does the cancer industry seem a lot more interested in treating cancer and recruiting cancer patients than actually curing cancer and ending the epidemic? Why does the industry refuse to talk about cancer-causing chemicals or the anti-cancer effects of vitamin D?

• Why are toxic food additives still allowed in the food supply? What's the real story on aspartame and the FDA? Why did the FDA oppress stevia for so many decades?

Why is the medical police state now using guns to force parents to medicate their children? In what kind of medical system is it necessary to use the threat of violence to force compliance?

• Why did Clinton bomb the Sudan in the middle of the Monica Lewinsky crisis? Why did Obama suddenly announce the death of Bin Laden in the middle of his "birther" crisis?

• Why do we still have the DEA's "War on Drugs," especially since there is ample evidence that the war is a total failure that only increases the prison population while actually enriching the drug gangs with higher street prices?

• Why is the TSA still reaching down our pants at the airports if Bin Laden is now dead? Wasn't he the whole reason we created the TSA and hired on those 60,000 security agents in the first place? (http://www.naturalnews.com/032267_B...)

An intelligent, skeptical thinker would ask these questions (and many more) as a natural course of basic human curiosity. But a Gullible Mind, attacks the questioner for even daring to ask such questions.

Who are some of the awakened people?
That's why the Gullible Mind is more than merely gullible: It is a cowardly mind. It is afraid to ask questions on its own, and it simultaneously attacks those who have the courage to stand up and actually ask those questions (like Jesse Ventura).

Most members of the conventional press are, of course, cowardly minds. They almost universally buy the corporate spin (or the White House spin) and never ask any tough questions anymore. Some of the REAL heroes -- the people who are asking intelligent questions about our world -- include:

Alex Jones - Controlled Opposition
Jeff Rense
Charlotte Gerson
Jonathan Landsman
David Icke - Controlled Opposition
Jesse Ventura
Gerald Celente
Ron Paul
Robert Scott Bell
Dr. Andrew Wakefield
Suzanne Somers
Dr. James Forsythe
George Noorey

Do you see a pattern here? Each one of these individuals has been marginalized or viciously attacked and slandered simply because they chose to ask intelligent questions about the world around them. Now, I don't agree with every single thing said by each one of these people, but I admire each of them for having the courage to ask the questions that need to be asked if we are to move forward as a society (and civilization).

These kind of people represent the complete opposite of The Gullible Mind. They are, instead, the "true skeptics" of the world. The reason they are viciously attacked is because our world is so steeped in deceit and conspiracy that only Gullible Minds are tolerated. Those who question the status quo are not merely annoying to the powers that be, but actually dangerous because the most dangerous activity in which you can engage today is helping others awaken to what's really happening around them.

It is that "awakening" that is so utterly despised by the web of corporations, governments and media lackeys that they will do everything in their power to prevent any sort of awakening from taking place at all. The functioning of the Matrix, after all, depends on people believing in the illusion.

And it is so much easier to govern, of course, if people just believe whatever you tell them. Gullible Minds make great voters and willing slaves. But lousy company.

[www.naturalnews.com]

Remember, Controlled Opposition will tell you 100 facts that are true just to get you to believe the one lie that is crucial to them.

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: May 14, 2020 12:07AM

Jennifer
Why I said something was fishy was that - I was in disbelief that 44 people from one church in Manhattan died in the last couple months from this Plandemic. 44 deaths from one church in Manhattan is too many.

Tai
How can they be making this up? They are posting it for everyone to see and fact check.

From the article:
Reading the list of the coronavirus dead has become a new ritual

The list at St. Peter’s started in mid-March with just one name.

Now, the single-spaced list is so long that it stretches onto a second page. The grim ritual of reading the names out loud has become as much a part of the church’s biweekly Spanish Mass as reciting the Lord’s Prayer.

During each service, broadcast live on Facebook from Arias’ apartment in the Bronx, photos of the dead flash across the screen.

Behind each name, there’s a story.

There’s a beloved tango singer who enchanted audiences. There’s a construction worker who told friends and family he was scared to go to the hospital — and died at home, alone.

And then there’s Raul, the thirty-third name on the list, a restaurant delivery worker who suffered from diabetes, went to the hospital when he started feeling sick, tested positive for coronavirus — and never left.

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: May 14, 2020 12:19AM

Tai
How can they be making this up?

Can you say Gullible?

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: May 14, 2020 12:34AM

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John Rose
Tai
How can they be making this up?

Can you say Gullible?

You are too far gone brother...

Tai
How can they be making this up? They are posting it for everyone to see and fact check.

Behind each name, there’s a story.


Billy Gates must be hiring writers for overtime...



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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: May 14, 2020 01:15AM

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Tai

Jennifer
Why I said something was fishy was that - I was in disbelief that 44 people from one church in Manhattan died in the last couple months from this Plandemic. 44 deaths from one church in Manhattan is too many.

Tai
How can they be making this up? They are posting it for everyone to see and fact check.


Yeah, because nobody is Lying, Hyping, Twisting, Spinning, Misrepresenting the Number of Coronavirus Deaths.

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: May 14, 2020 01:29AM

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Jennifer

Yeah, because nobody is Lying, Hyping, Twisting, Spinning, Misrepresenting the Number of Coronavirus Deaths.

There are real people dying, try to find some compassion in your cold conservative heart...

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: May 14, 2020 01:40AM

Jennifer
Yeah, because nobody is Lying, Hyping, Twisting, Spinning, Misrepresenting the Number of Coronavirus Deaths.

Article:
And then there’s Raul, the thirty-third name on the list, a restaurant delivery worker who suffered from diabetes, went to the hospital when he started feeling sick, tested positive for coronavirus — and never left.

Tai
Who's twisting things here when they admit comorbidity?

And we all know about iatrogenic deaths in hospitals, which is the unfortunate reality of conventional medicine.

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: May 14, 2020 01:45AM

Yes, there are people dying, very minuscule thousandths of a percent of the population is dying. And they are 99.9% older people and those with other problems.

The Outrage is that Some Cabal is Locking everyone in their homes, Shutting down Businesses, Ruining Society, Collapsing the Economies, Bankrupting Businesses, plunging Billions of People into Poverty, taking away our Liberty and Freedom, Tyrannizing Everyone IN THE WHOLE WORLD for their Agenda.

The Mind-Boggling Shocker is that like 90% of the World seems to be Okay with that and doesn't think Something Is Up and aren't Questioning WHO is doing it and What's The Endgame. eye popping smiley

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: May 14, 2020 02:08AM

JR is straight up saying it's made up and that's OFFENSIVE!



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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: May 14, 2020 02:16AM

lol, you sound like a little boy running to his mommy, whining -

"Mommy, Mommy, JR is straight up saying it's made up and that made me cry."

grinning smiley

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Re: Lost 44 People to Coronavirus???
Posted by: NuNativs ()
Date: May 14, 2020 03:53AM

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Jennifer
lol, you sound like a little boy running to his mommy, whining -

"Mommy, Mommy, JR is straight up saying it's made up and that made me cry."

grinning smiley
You need to insult harder Jen. I'm not crying at all, more just sad and shaking my head in WTF?, like I do with you, for taking an extreme stance and riding it to the GRAVE come what may just to be right, whereby all Logic and facts have been thrown under the bus...

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