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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: June 22, 2020 10:23AM

fresh wrote,
"Tai,

I use language when needed to make a point , when a person is way over the top with a response.

rawpracticalist is disruptive, repetitive, condescending, and pointlessly controlling.

too bad those qualities don't perturb you."

fresh wrote,
"thanks RP for posting that.

I stand by my comment that you are AN IDIOT.

ceaselessly posting accusations (that Erin is a liar)
without evidence.

among other things.

NO, your ZDOGG post is not evidence .
the fact that you believe your post does not make it true.


what? you're permitted to make claims/insults/judgements about JR but I am not permitted to make statements and claims about you?"

Tai is somewhat of an enigma to me. She constantly misrepresents what I say and seems to be incapable of Connecting Dots. She claims to have looked at the other Version of the Holocaust, but then she gets sucked into some White Supremacy Bullshit, which supports her views of the Holocaust and makes me think she's RACIST!!!

Tai's last comment to me was, "When both the nazi perpetrators and the victims themselves give the basic same eyewitness account, it's hard to deny."

If you really tried to understand the other Version, you have known these were TORTURED CONFESSIONS!!!

Out of 139 German witnesses who testified that the Holocaust had occurred, the British Medical Officer recorded that 137 had “damage to their testicles that is beyond repair”.

Holocaust Or Holohoax 05: Twenty-One Amazing Facts
9. The Nuremberg Trials 1945 to 1949:
The Nuremberg Trials were held in the German City of Nuremberg from 1945 to 1949. These Trials were held by the victorious Allies (France, Britain , USA and Soviet Russia) with the Germans as defendants. They were the worst sort of show trials with the main Judge being Nikitchenko, who had presided over Stalins’ show trials of 1936 to 1938 in the Soviet Union. The Court came up with ridiculous findings like jews being turned in to lampshades and even soap, these claims are now discredited and even the jews admit they were untrue.

The Chief Justice of the United States Harlan Fiske Stone called the Nuremberg trials a fraud. He said “Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg,” he wrote. “I don’t mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a Court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas.”

The Nuremberg Trials – the ultimate Soviet show trial held under the Allies.

Associate Supreme Court Justice William O Douglas charged that the Allies were guilty of “substituting power for principle” at Nuremberg. “I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled,” he wrote.

“Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamor of the time.”

According to British General Montgomery, the Germans had only one sin: They lost the war.

President John F Kennedy in his book, Profiles in Courage, criticised Nuremberg as a show trial.

Out of 139 German witnesses who testified that the Holocaust had occurred, the British Medical Officer recorded that 137 had “damage to their testicles that is beyond repair”. A number of Germans had died under interrogation by the Allies. There was also the threat of sending Peoples’ families to Soviet Gulags.


Tai, I stand by what I've said, you NEVER tried to UNDERSTAND the other Version.

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: June 22, 2020 10:25AM

Gandhi said of Hitler, “I am not fit to carry water for that man.”

John F. Kennedy said of Hitler, “Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived... he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”

"I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleadings not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right." -British Attorney General, March 16th, 1984, Senior Nuremburg Prosecutor

"The last thing Hitler wanted was to produce another great war." -Sir. Basil Liddell Hart

"I see no reason why this war must go on. I am grieved to think of the sacrifices which it will claim. I would like to avert them." -Adolf Hitler, July, 1940.

"Winston Churchill agrees: "We entered the war of our own free will, without ourselves being directly assaulted." -Guild Hall Speech, July 1943.

“He has a supreme intellect. I have known only two other men to whom I could apply such distinction - Lord Northcliffe and Lloyd George. If one puts a question to Hitler, he gives an immediate, brilliant clear answer. There is no human being living whose promise on important matters I would trust more readily. He believes that Germany has a Divine calling and that the German people are destined to save Europe from the revolutionary attacks of Communism. He values family life very highly, whereas Communism is its worst enemy. He has thoroughly cleansed the moral, ethical life of Germany, forbidden publication of obscene books, and performance of questionable plays and films.” - Harold Harmsworth, 1st viscount, Rothermere, Britain

“I am not worthy to speak aloud of Adolf Hitler. And his life and work do not invite sentimental words. He was a warrior for mankind and a herald of the gospel of justice for all nations. He was a reformative figure of the highest rank, and it was his historic fate that he had to work in a time of unprecedented baseness, which in the end brought him down. Thus, I suppose, must the ordinary West European look upon Adolf Hitler. And we, his close followers, now bow our heads before his mortal shroud.” Norwegian writer and Nobel Prize-winner, Knut Hamsun, upon the death of Adolf Hitler, Aftenposten, 1 May 1945

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 22, 2020 04:22PM

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Tai

Jennifer, eat your words:
I read an article once with the title something like - Mexico I think - that Mexicans are getting the leader they want. That 'leader' was like a socialist/communist/dictator type. The interesting thing was - the article explained that that's the type of people the Mexicans are. They want a dictator, a boss, and a big all-powerful government that will take care of them and provide them with everything they need. It's because of their ethnicity - they are born with that brain.

Stating Facts is Racist is horseshit.

Tai
Let's not play coy.
You didn't state any facts here. You spewed forth defamation that is racist.

Socialism/communism doesn't arise from a person's ethnicity. That is racist hate speech. It's like saying a certain ethnicity is atheist by nature.


Tai said: "You didn't state any facts here."

I didn't state any Facts in the Quote you posted, I stated The Facts in the previous paragraph, THAT YOU NEGLECTED TO POST.

So that bit of yours is a Misrepresentation.

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First of all - Again you took my words/sentences out of context.

You neglected to quote the COMPLETE PARAGRAPH, which is this:

"I read an article once with the title something like - Mexico I think - that Mexicans are getting the leader they want. That 'leader' was like a socialist/communist/dictator type. The interesting thing was - the article explained that that's the type of people the Mexicans are. They want a dictator, a boss, and a big all-powerful government that will take care of them and provide them with everything they need. It's because of their ethnicity - they are born with that brain, that mind. I'm not saying RawPracticalist is of Hispanic or Latino descent and has that particular mindset; just that his brain works differently than ours."

Again, YOU NEGLECTED TO PUT IN MY CLARIFICATION that I was just putting forth an interesting concept I ran across in an article of how ethnicity can influence Society/Culture/Politics, which As I SAID DOES NOT APPLY TO RawPracticalist.

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That whole bit you quoted from me clearly was AN EXAMPLE. I went on to explain the article, which talked about Mexicans getting the type of government they inherently desire.

Actually, I should have chosen my words better here - Instead of using the word 'Dictator', I should have used the words 'Authority Figure'. But because In Government/Politics 'authority figures' are not Benevolent, 'authority figures' are or become 'Dictators'. I jumped to the chase and used the word, "Dictator'. Bad, bad me.

It would have been more explanative if I had said, "That's the type of people the Mexicans are. They want an Authority Figure, a boss, a big all-powerful government that will take care of them and provide them with everything they need. It's because of their ethnicity - they are born with that brain. They are looking for a benevolent authority figure and end up with a dictator."

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Tai said: "Socialism/communism doesn't arise from a person's ethnicity. That is racist hate speech."

And I never said, as you said I said, 'Socialism/communism arises from a person's ethnicity'. But that's food for thought. And even that statement - that is Not a Racist Statement. If the statement, 'Socialism/communism arises from a person's ethnicity' was considered 'Racist' by the Authorities (The Libs) on What is and what is not 'Racism', it's The Libs who are the Arbiters of 'Racist Speech' and it's The Libs who love and want to turn America into a Socialist Country, so that would mean that 'Socialism/Communism arises from The Lib's ethnicity' and that would be considered by The Libs to be a compliment - because Libs Love Socialism. So "Socialism/Communism arises from ethnicity IS NOT 'HATE SPEECH' because Libs Love Socialism. Get it?

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So You, Tai, Equated a Socialist/Communist type of government to RACISM. What is Racist about Socialism/Communism? What's that all about? And how is A DICTATOR equated with Racism exactly? Very convoluted how that works, that everything is Racist now ...

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And Tai said: "It's like saying a certain ethnicity is atheist by nature." Oops, there you go again. (Hey, who's to say certain ethnicities are not atheist by nature.) Why would that be considered Racist Hate Speech? Because WHO IS ASSIGNING VALUE TO THE WORD ATHEIST? You are.

So if 'Socialism/communism' is not a Racist Precept to The Libs, To Whom is Atheism considered 'racist hate speech'? It's Subjective.

Is your White (because it's only White Conservatives who are deemed to be Racists) Racism Card played out by now, Tai, because I can keep going forever with debating anyone on the Other Side (The Race Mongers) about any of their Many Social Constructs that are Dividing and Killing America-as-we-know-it.

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: June 22, 2020 05:37PM

Jennifer, you just dug your hole deeper, and you are playing word games to justify how you trashed Mexicans with no facts. Mexicans are extremely hard working and don't expect government to provide them with everything.

Here is a fact:
[www.miamiherald.com]
"In a global socialism survey conducted by IPSOS in 28 countries earlier this year, Mexicans consistently chose individual rights, competition and capitalism over social justice and collectivism"

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: June 22, 2020 08:58PM

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Tai

Jennifer, you just dug your hole deeper, and you are playing word games to justify how you trashed Mexicans with no facts. Mexicans are extremely hard working and don't expect government to provide them with everything.

Here is a fact:
[www.miamiherald.com]
"In a global socialism survey conducted by IPSOS in 28 countries earlier this year, Mexicans consistently chose individual rights, competition and capitalism over social justice and collectivism"

No, you are twisting my words and attributing your own interpretation to my words.

Number One - I did NOT 'trash Mexicans'. I said Mexicans want Big Government, you characterized that as trashing Mexcians. You mischaracterized what I said.

Number Two - Mexicans Favor Big Government is my premise -

I never said that Mexicans want 'Socialism'. They want a big government with all the government services and they end up with Socialism.

Your 'FACT' in your article said:

"Mexicans consistently chose individual rights, competition and capitalism over social justice and collectivism"

None of those things are the words: "Big Government". So THE FACT that we're researching is - Do Mexicans Favor Big Government?

I looked it up and what I found is that Yes, Mexicans Favor Big Government by about 75%!

Hispanics Favor Bigger Role for Government

[www.pewresearch.org]

"When it comes to the size of government, Hispanics are more likely than the general public to say they would rather have a bigger government which provides more services than a smaller government which provides fewer services.

Some 75% of Hispanics hold this view; just 19% say they prefer a smaller government. By contrast, just 41% of the public at large voice support for a bigger government.

Support for a larger government is highest among immigrant Latinos, with 81% holding this view."

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: John Rose ()
Date: June 23, 2020 09:34PM

40 years ago, I met the son of a former President of Mexico and he told me that Mexico has committed the WORST CRIMES the world has ever witnessed, and that most Mexicans and their leaders were MURDERERS!!! He was a good friend of one of my clients at the time and my client said that his friend had PROOF of all of these Crimes and that Mexicans committed CRIMES that were 10 times worse than the Germans and we all know how bad the Germans are. Unfortunately, this guy was murdered by a bunch of Mexicans before he could publish his book.

Of course, now I know that the Native Americans were NOT the Savages as they were portrayed on all of those TV Western Shows that I grew up watching and I know that the Germans/Nazis were NOT the Evil Monsters portrayed in all of those Hundreds and Hundreds of Anti-“Nazi” Films and TV Shows released since 1945 that I grew up watching. I'm still uncertain about the Mexicans, but I can't think of anything worse than being accused of something BAD that I did NOT do, so I'll suspend my judgment until I look at ALL the EVIDENCE!

It takes a very special type of person to stand up to this type of Injustice, as Germar Rudolf points out below, and I really don't understand why everyone doesn't feel that way, especially when given the opportunity to UNDO this Injustice. Perhaps if it happened to you or your people, you might be more understanding.

[www.youtube.com]
Germar Rudolf's slide show about the alleged Nazi gas chambers
2:11:43 Minute Video

JohnRobinson101
Published on Sep 27, 2017
Germar Rudolf illustrates his revisionist findings about the alleged Nazi gas chambers with an excellent slide show at David Irving's historical meeting. With an intro and commentary by Mr. Irving.

JR’s Notes:

[youtu.be]
11:10 MM
Germar Rudolf: But what actually happened, I think, the prerequisite for what happened lies in my character and that lies in the character of many Revionists. First of all, they have a very strong will. Secondly, they have a feeling for injustice and they have a will to fight injustice - they cannot accept - they stand up. So these two compounds I had already when I was a baby just two or three years old and my father was the sort of father who wants to force his kids and his son, especially his first son, which I was to go into a certain direction because he was very proud of his son and he wanted him to be a nice guy and he tried force be to be certain behavior and it didn’t work because I was stubborn - I had my own will and if I am not convinced to do a thing, but only forced I will refuse and do the opposite. That’s my nature and all through my life if someone wants to force me to do something and he cannot explain to me why it is good to do so, be quite sure I’m going to do the opposite.

So that was my mindset and I learned about the Holocaust at school three times. 12:18 MM

12:31 MM
I believed in everything and I believed, especially, that all the people who doubt, who even Denied, that they are as we are told, Neo-Nazis, Right Wing Extremists, maybe Mentally Insane and all of that sort of stuff and you know what I’m talking about. And I was convinced, yea, that’s correct, it’s absolutely correct to prosecute them because they want to whitewash Hitler and they want to reinstall the Third Reich or a Totalitarian Regime. I don’t want that, so let’s fight them. That was my position until I got 25 years old studying Chemistry. 13:10 MM

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Re: 5 million people in Great Britain
Posted by: Tai ()
Date: June 24, 2020 06:16AM

John, I see your point. You have made yourself very clear.

I am in the middle of moving right now on top of dealing with major deadlines and am so behind, so forgive me that I do not respond to your other posts.

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