Robert F. Kennedy Educates Alan Dershowitz On Vaccines, Masks
July 24, 2020

Here are some of my notes...

JR Comment…
Kennedy Versus Dershowitz
Knowledge Versus Conventional Wisdom
Common Sense Knowledge Versus Conventional Wisdom
Logic Versus Conventional Wisdom
Research Versus Conventional Wisdom

Kennedy relies on Research, whereas, Dershowitz relies on Conventional Wisdom whether it’s on Vaccines or the Holocaust.
End of JR Comment.

JR’s Notes:

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26:08 MM
Dershowitz: No, I wrote an article against it. I wrote an article saying don't believe that - Masks work #1. If they didn't work, why would so many doctors be using them and why would it be so necessary for doctors to have them? And second, I don’t believe that there’s No Aerosol Transmission. The Disease could not have developed so quickly around the World just by touching surfaces. So I challenge the Medical Establishment on that and it turned out, of course, as we all know, to be right. We KNOW there’s Aerosol Transmission. We KNOW Masks have an impact whether they help you who are wearing it or whether they only help you in Transmitting it. But I would like to throw a question out to Robert. I think I know the answer. Robert, would you be against a Law that Mandated the Wearing of Masks in public for everybody even by people who don’t approve of Wearing a Mask because, you know, Masks don’t Kill you, [JR Comment] they’re Not, they don’t pose the Risk the Vaccine do, but they do deprive you of Freedom, do you think the State, the Government has the legitimate Constitutional Power to MANDATE the Wearing of Masks by people who refuse to Wear Masks? 27:16 MM

27:16 MM
Kennedy: [Kennedy first addressed the fact that Vaccines did NOT Eradicate all of those diseases, like smallpox and polio, Dershowitz talked about just prior to the section above and went on to explain how bad Vaccines are, but never addressed the Mask issue as he said he would because of his long digression.] 39:02 MM

39:02 MM
Dershowitz:

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47:45 MM
Dershowitz: Wouldn’t you agree that Mandatory Masks Wearing would be Constitutional?

Kennedy: Well, if I accepted all of your precedence, then perhaps I would. The thing is I know a lot about the Masks and my organization has taken the position on um, but I have read, well, I have read at least 3 Medical Reviews involving Hundreds of Studies on Masks and the majority of the studies, in fact, there’s a BMJ Study from 2015 that says that Masks actually likely to spread the Disease and to make you less Healthy because the Carbon Dioxide that you’re breathing and the people who Wear the Masks are more likely to get sick. I’m not saying that’s my position. I’m just saying there’s a lot of contrary Science out there. 48:41 MM

Dershowitz: Do you Wear a Mask, personally, when you go out?

Kennedy: If the Science was clear, if the Science was clear, I would be much more sympathetic to your view. Let me ask you this, let me just answer the other question you had. You said we had to rely on the Majority [JR’s The Mob Rule!]. Well, I grew up in the State of Virginia, Alan, and when I grew up, it was Illegal, because the Majority Voted, that it was Illegal for a Black Man to marry a White Woman and it was Illegal for Blacks to Vote. So the Majority does NOT know. In a Democracy, you have the courts there that protect our Rights [I agree, I agree] and, unfortunately, we are in a situation today where we have tremendous Corruption not only in Congress, which is receiving, which receives more Money from Pharmaceutical Companies than any other Industry. Pharmaceutical gives in Lobbying twice the amount that Oil and Gas, which is the next big one, four times what Defense and Aerospace. There are more Lobbyists, armed Lobbyists in Congress than there are Members of Congress in the Senate.

So we have lost the Legislative Independence of that Body and, unfortunately, Alan, the Agencies are also Captured. Now you know about Agency Capture. It happens everywhere. And I have sued the EPA my entire life. We just, I’ve just sued the EPA. We just sued Monsanto. We got an historic judgment - a 12 Billion Dollar Settlement in the Monsanto case and I was part of that trial team. 50:27 MM

JR Recap...
... unfortunately, we are in a situation today where we have tremendous Corruption not only in Congress, ...[but] the Agencies are also Captured - [the “Bureaucratic” Agencies ala the Fabian Society.]
End of JR Recap.

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51:56 MM
Kennedy: These Regulatory Agencies are actually Vaccine Companies.

...Bill Thompson...

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53:43 MM
So you have an Agency that is really just an Arm of Industry and the people who are in my Community who are being derided and vilified - these Mothers who have Vaccine Injured children are being vilified in the Press who are saying, wait a minute, we have read the Studies, the Scientific Studies, we have read about the Industry Corruption - we need to talk about this - they’re being silenced by the Press, they’re Not allowed to tell their Stories and nobody is talking on a single member of Anderson Cooper’s staff or Sanjay Gupta has made any effort to talk to Bill Thompson and he has been begging to be subpoenaed and he’s still at CDC. 54:28 MM

54:28 MM
Dershowitz: Look, the reason why I do this Debate is because I think you perform an important function by bringing out some of these Ties some of these Connections - you perform an important function when you bring Lawsuits against Corrupt Pharmaceutical Companies, but my question is this knowing all that you know now and putting aside the issue of let’s assume we didn’t have Mandatory Vaccinations, let’s assume you Win that Debate and it’s only Voluntary Vaccinations now and they come forward with the Vaccine that they say will stem the tide of the Pandemic and you’re allowed to go on television on Anderson Cooper, would you urge all of the American people Not to take the Vaccine? Would you become part of the Campaign Not to take the Vaccine if it were Voluntary? 55:20 MM

Kennedy: Oh no, I’m Not Anti-Vaccine. People call me Anti-Vaccine because it’s a way of marginalizing me and silencing me. [Dershowitz] I’m Not Anti-Vaccine, you know. Look Alan, I’ve been trying to get Mercury out of Fish for 37 years - nobody calls me Anti-Fish. 55:40 MM

Dershowitz: [Asks the same question - what would you say…]

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56:04 MM
Kennedy: If they come out with a Vaccine that does what Bill Gates says it’s going to do, which is you give 1 Shot and Lifetime Immunity and there are vanishingly rare Serious Injuries, and I don’t mind Jab Site redness, itching, forget about it, I don’t care, I’m talking about Deaths or Brain Damage, 1 in a Million, that may be acceptable. In that case and it works, then I’d say, I’d tell people, yeah, I’m going to get it. Let’s go ahead and get it. 56:41 MM

Kennedy: Trust, but Verify. [Regarding Doctors]

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1:03:31
Kennedy: People who take the Flu Shot are Protected against a Strain of Flu, but they’re 4.4 times more likely to get a Non-Flu Infection. And you might find and a lot of people do get the Flu Shot and then they get Sick. They’re usually Not getting the Flu - they’re getting something that is indistinguishable from the Flu because the Flu Shot gives you something called Pathogenic Priming - it Injuries your Immune System so that you’re more likely to get a Non-Flu Viral Upper Respiratory Infection. 1:04:07 MM

SLIDE
Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza
George G. Wolff

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1:04:06 MM
In fact, the Pentagon published a story and you can site this it’s by Wolff in January of this year in which they said the Flu Shot not only primes you for Flu and it primes you for Coronavirus. 1:04:23 MM

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1:04:36 MM
What they found is, actually, the people who got the Flu Shot were 36% more likely to get the Coronavirus and that’s not a lone Study. We have 6 other Major Studies that say the same thing - if you get the Flu Shot, you’re more likely to get the Coronavirus. 1:04:54 MM

Doctors wear them loosely
Not all day
And it's for prevention of contamination during surgery

Has nothing to do with tight masks to prevent virus transmission

This is how you spend your day???? Life's short...

JR Will you please enlarge, so its readable, the article/study per "The Pentagon" where it says that a person getting the flu vaccination was 36% more likely to get the COVID-19 virus. Because that's what I asked for earlier. And since you mention it in this posting series, I presume its available to you.I don't know what "SLIDE" means, but that is the same study I found on PUBMED, and I didn't see that "conclusion", but PUBMED's was only an abstract. Thank You.

There is no covid19 virus

Maybe you should try to find the paper uniquely identifying that first

You will fail

Which makes your query above moot

I don't recall I asked you Fresh. I asked JR. So please get lost...

The odds of testing positive for individual respiratory viruses by vaccination status were also examined (Table 5). ...Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals (OR?=?1.36 and 1.51, respectively) (Table 5).



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RFK JR. DISHES ON DEBATE & CURRENT CENSORSHIP

<<<27:16 MM
Kennedy: [Kennedy first addressed the fact that Vaccines did NOT Eradicate all of those diseases, like smallpox and polio, ...] 39:02 MM>>>

Here are my transcribed notes...

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27:16 MM
Kennedy: Let me come back to that, let me address some of the other things because I think that’s actually a complex question and I think the science is very controversial. Let me address some of the earlier things you said first. One, this is a rather esoteric discussion and one that, you know, I’m not going to really drag you into other than to say this the proposition and the theology that Smallpox and Polio were abolished due to Vaccination is controversial. That is not a proposition that is universally accepted and, I mean, if you notice all the Infectious Diseases whether it was Scurvy or Tuberculosis for which there were No Vaccines along with Puerperal Fever and Diphtheria and Pertussis and Measles all disappeared at the same time without Vaccination.

Now CDC actually examined that because it became such a part of the Orthodoxy of, you know, Vaccines that the idea that Smallpox and Polio were abolished because of Vaccines and these other Diseases. They did, John Hopkins and CDC in 2000 in a comprehensive study of that proposition. The study was published in Pediatrics, which is the Journal for the American Association of Pediatrics, which is kind of a readout fortification for Vaccine Orthodoxy. So it was a publication very, very friendly in support of Vaccination. For people who want to look up this study the lead author is Guyer - G-u-y-e-r and the conclusion of that study is that the abolishment of Mortalities from Infectious Diseases that took place during the first half of the 20th Century had virtually nothing to do with Vaccines - it had everything to do with Sanitation with Nutrition with Hygiene with Electric Refrigerators with Reduction in Population Densities and, essentially, Engineering Solution - Clean Water, Good Food and that was uh and actually there was a guy called Edward Kass, who was head of Harvard Medical School at that time, who gave a very, very famous speech in which he warned that people who were Promoting Vaccines and other Technologies would try to take credit for those Reductions in Mortalities from Infectious Disease and he said beware of them because they’ll try to monitor that, they’ll try to Monetize them and use that to increase their Power and their Prestige. So that’s something you might look at - it’s called G-u-y-e-r. 30:22 MM

SCREEN SHOT
Annual Summary of Vital Statistics: Trends in the Health of Americans During the 20th Century
Bernard Guyer, MD, MPH; Mary Anne Freedman, MA+; Donna M. Strobino, PhD.; and Edward J. Sondik, PhD+



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Well, you know what, I understand that position - that’s the position of every Democrat in the Country - that’s why the Democratic Party is so Wrong on this issue and it isn’t because their values are in the wrong place - it’s because they have Bad Information. 95% of Democrats would be on our side if they knew what was happening. 16:48 MM

So you identify yourself as a "Republican" as well?
You would think that a FREE THINKING raw food person would lean more towards Socialism.
They would want equal right, freedom for all, UBI etc.
They wouldn't take sides with a party bent on schooling, jobs, bigger business.
Hell, a FREE THINKING person wouldn't take "sides" at all!!!

I think you promoted Dr. Edward Kass to "Head of Harvard Medical School at the time". I just read his obituary & he was "a Professor" at Harvard Medical School, not the "Head". Or did Robert Kennedy get that wrong?

I was really excited about hearing of Dr. Edward Kass, so I immediately created a file on him and the first article I read was from Kennedy's organization - Children’s Health Defense - see below.

In this debate with Dershowitz where Kennedy was talking off the top of his head, he only mentioned that Kass was the head of Harvard Medical School, which appears to be an obvious slip of tongue, but failed to mention Kass was the founder and first President of the Infectious Diseases Society of America and the founder of the Journal of Infectious Diseases.

KFCA, you obviously love to look for and focus on what's wrong, which is a STRONG Green Personality trait - see any 1 of my 13 Videos on Personalysis - and unless you also have a lot of Yellow, you probably have never done any or very little public speaking. Am I right? Have you ever done any public speaking? Have you ever had to talk off the top of your head in front of a group of people or a camera?

If you have, you would know that for every 1,000 words spoken, most people make one or two errors and if you're not being recorded, there's a good chance you won't even catch it unless it's brought to your attention. This happens to me all the time, but it's more like 1 slip of tongue every 3,000 words. Sometimes the errors make sense and other times I can't even believe what came out of my mouth.

Anyway, back to things that REALLY matter, this is really a good article even for those who are extremely ANAL...

[childrenshealthdefense.org]
March 12, 2019
The Impact of Vaccines on Mortality Decline Since 1900—According to Published Science

Here's one for those who are ANAL...

[www.nytimes.com]
Edward H. Kass, 72, Researcher on Toxic Shock
By Glenn Fowler
Jan. 19, 1990

...

Dr. Kass was a founding member and first president of the Infectious Disease Society of America and the founding editor of the Journal of Infectious Diseases. In 1979 he started a new journal, Reviews in Infectious Diseases, which he edited through last month's issue.

...

Infectious Disease Society of America

SHOULD BE

Infectious Diseases Society of America

OMG...let's throw the whole article out!

Gee I just read Dr. Kass's very very famous speech given in 1970 to the Infectious Disease Society of America. You might try reading it JR. Not quite like youor Robert Kenndy make it sound.

I personally had two cases of (infectious) TB in my immediate family, but there was no deaths directly involved, only long stays in TB sanitariums. My brother, who was 5 at the time, is very much alive at 77, and credits the drug Streptomycin for being alive and happily retired. His short-term roommate, at about the same age, died of TB at that sanitarium; "Freddie" wasn't so lucky. This was in 1947-1948. My grandfather died in his 80ties in 1953, five years after leaving his "TB San", from a stroke.

However, you might not like the part where "good food" doesn't help in infectious disease cases, at least according to Dr. Kass. In fact he says in some virus cases, it does the opposite. ("Currently fashionable is the view that nutritional improvements account for...", then Kass kicks that view to the curb. I also didn't see any "warning" or "bewaring" language re getting vaccines in Dr. Kass's speech.

At some point, since the Science Library at UC-Berkeley is currently closed, I will have to delay checking on the article in "Pediatrics" by Guyer, et al Unless you have or can direct me to a full copy; PubMed only has an "Abstract". Though it looks like a full copy is available from that Pediatrics group for $25 for non-members.

Dr. Kass did say that "isoniazid changed the mortality pattern" of TB---whatever that means. Never heard of it, but my Websters says it's a drug.

So Jr needs to accept everything that that guy says?

is that what you're saying?

you have a problem with logic?

TB is not infectious
Unless you'd like to provide the evidence of it.

Can say the same thing about AIDS
Not caused by a virus and not infectious


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Maybe JR I should have been a professional fact-checker in my past life. I don't recall that that requires giving speeches. Hopefully fact-checking keeps people on the straight & narrow. With all the red letters & capitals you use, I would think that you'd at least read what you post about before posting.

For example, your post, still re Dr.Kass:

"who gave a very very famous speech in which he warned that people who were Promoting Vaccines and other Technologies would try to take credit for those Reductions in Mortalities from Infectious Disease and he said beware of them because they'll try to monitor that, they'll try to Monetize them and use that to increase their Power and their Prestige."

If that came from Kennedy, he's full of BS. I thought WOW on just that part, read through Kass's published speech 4 times, & could find nothing that even closely translates into that.

Dr. Kass seemed like a very nice man (according to his obit, he died of lung cancer, though the obit said that he wasn't a smoker) extremely intelligent, even somewhat "humble", the head of a lot of things, but not President of Harvard Medical School. Perhaps Kennedy saying that was just a slip. Or Not.

KFCA, what's your take on enemas and colonics?

Why do you ask? Off hand, never paid much attention to them. I imagine their popularity ebbs & flows, but don't know what story is now current.

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KFCA, what's your take on enemas and colonics?

Matt Monarch almost killed himself with them...

lol - I thought it was JR being passive/aggressive.

"KFCA, what's your take on enemas and colonics?"

JR said read the above if you're ANAL. Very truthful...